/lit/ - Literature

>>17618676
Once you have your first you won’t be able to go back. It is undeniably better than any other orgasm you could have. Regular orgasms are barely even pleasurable for me anymore.

>>17618720
I don't even like orgasms, sex is just about validation of my ego, and masturbation is because it releases those 'calm' endorphins

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Homosexuality is so widespread a practice that it cannot be overlooked in a doctrine of sex. Goethe wrote that "it is as old as mankind and therefore can be said to be a part of nature although it is contrary to nature." If it is "an enigma which appears more mysterious the more we attempt to analyze it scientifically" (Ivan Bloch), it also forms a complex problem from the point of view of the metaphysics of sex as formulated in the foregoing pages.

We have already mentioned that in his theory of eros Plato often referred not only to heterosexual love but also to love for epheboi and male paramours. Now let us consider "eros" in those of its exalted forms that are linked to the aesthetic factor, according to the Platonic sequence already mentioned. We should pass gradually from beauty as seen by a given being to rapture that can be aroused by incorporeal beauty not linked to any particular person: divine beauty in an abstract sense. There is no real problem if the accidental starting point is a being of the same sex. The word "uranism," which some use to mean homosexuality, springs from Plato's distinction between Aphrodite Urania and Aphrodite Pandemia; Aphrodite Urania is the goddess of a noble love which is not carnal and unconcerned with procreation, as is the love which has woman as its object. It may be that pederasty (paidon eros, or love of boys) had in the beginning and to a certain degree a noble character when it was honored by ancient writers and poets and practiced by important personages. But it is now enough to read the last pages of the Symposium and the speech of Alcibiades in order to realize how little this eros remained "Platonic" in Hellas and how it also led increasingly to carnal developments as the ancient customs in Greece and Rome declined.

If, therefore, we assume homosexuality to conform to these carnal conditions or to correspond to ordinary sexual relations between man and woman, then we may well describe it as a deviation, not from a conventional or ethical point of view, but precisely from the standpoint of the metaphysics of sex.

>>17618740
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It is inappropriate to apply, as Plato does, the metaphysical meaning made evident by the myth of the hermaphrodite to homosexual love or to love as practiced between pederasts or lesbians. In fact, in the case of such love, it is no longer allowable to speak of the impulse of the male or female principle, as present in the primordial being, to be reunited. The mythical being of our origin would, in such a case,have to be not hermaphroditic but homogeneous and of one sex only,either all man (in the case of pederasts) or all woman (in the case of lesbians), and the two lovers would seek to unite themselves as simple parts of one and the same substance. Thus the essential,which gives each myth its whole value, loses its meaning, namely, the idea of the polarity and the complementary nature of the two sexes asthe basis of the magnetism of love and of a "transcendency" in eros,and of the blinding and destructive revelation of the One.

To find an explanation it is necessary to descend to a lower level and examine various empirical possibilities. Normally two forms of homosexuality are distinguished in sexology: One has an inborn,natural character, whereas the other has an acquired character and is conditioned by psychological and sociological factors influenced by a person's environment. But in the second of these forms it is necessary to give a proper value to the distinction between forms having a vicious nature and forms that presuppose a latent predisposition which is aroused under given circumstances. It is necessary to set forth this condition because, given the same situation, different types behave in different ways and may not become homosexual. It is important, however, not to consider the inborn form of homosexuality in a rigid way but to allow a certain possibility of variation.

>>17618740
>We should pass gradually from beauty as seen by a given being to rapture that can be aroused by incorporeal beauty not linked to any particular person: divine beauty in an abstract sense
so basically just disembodied cock :)

>>17618753
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In natural homosexuality or in the predisposition to it, the most straightforward explanation is provided by what we said earlier about the differing levels of sexual development and about the fact that the process of sexual development in its physical and, even more so, in its psychic aspects can be incomplete. In that way, the original bisexual nature is surpassed to a lesser extent than in a "normal" human being, the characteristics of one sex not being predominant over those of the other sex to the same extent (see chapter 1). Next we must deal with what M. Hirschfeld called the "intermediate sexual forms." In cases of this kind (for instance, when a person who is nominally a man is only 60 percent male), it is impossible that the erotic attraction based on the polarity of the sexes in heterosexuality -which is much stronger the more the man is male and the woman is female- can also be born between individuals who,according to the birth registry and as regards only the so-called primary sexual characteristics, belong to the same sex, because in actual fact they are "intermediate forms." In the case of pederasts, Ulrichs said rightly that it is possible to find "the soul of a woman born in the body of a man."

But it is necessary to take into account the possibility of constitutional mutations, a possibility that has been given little consideration by sexologists; that is, we must also bear in mind cases of regression. It may be that the governing power on which the sexual nature of a given individual depends (a nature that is truly male or truly female)may grow weak through neutralization, atrophy, or reduction of the latent state of the characteristics of the other sex, and this may lead to the activation and emergence of these recessive characteristics. And here the surroundings and the general atmosphere of society can play a not unimportant part. In a civilization where equality is the standard, where differences are not linked, where promiscuity is in favor, where the ancient idea of "being true to oneself" means nothing anymore -in such a splintered and materialistic society, it is clear that this phenomenon of regression and homosexuality should be particularly welcome, and therefore it is in no way a surprise to seethe alarming increase in homosexuality and the "third sex" in the latest "democratic" period, or an increase in sex changes to an extent unparalleled in other eras.

>>17618765
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But the reference to "intermediate sexual forms," to an incomplete process of the development of sex or to a regression, does not explain all the varieties of homosexuality. In fact, there have been male homosexuals who have not been effeminate or "intermediate forms"but even men of war, individuals decidedly manly in their appearance and behavior, powerful men who have had or could have had the most beautiful women at their disposal. Such homosexuality is hard to explain, and we have the right here to speak of deviation and perversion, or "vice" linked, perhaps, to a fashion. Indeed, it is hard to understand what can drive a man who is truly a man sexually toward an individual of the same sex. If appropriate material for the realization of the zenith of the orgasm of heterosexual love is almost nonexistent, this is even more the case in the embraces of homosexual love. However, there is reason to suppose that it is merely a matter of "mutual masturbation" and that the conditioned reflexes are exploited for "pleasure" since not only the metaphysical but also the physical premises for a whole and destructive union are lacking.

On the other hand, classical antiquity bears witness not so much to a homosexuality having sole rights and being the foe of women and wedlock, but rather to a bisexual attitude in which both women and young men were used (as a counterpart, there are generally many cases of very highly sexed and also very feminine women who are at the same time lesbians, with bisexual practices). Here it seems that the governing motivation was simply the desire to try everything. However, not even this point is very clear because, apart from the fact that there was femininity in the epheboi and youths who were the favorite object of those pederasts, we may also refer to the crude saying, taken by Goethe from a Greek writer, that if one has had enough from a girl as a girl, she can always play the part of a boy ("Habe ich als Mädchen sie satt, dient es als Knabe noch").

As to the claim for an ideal nature of hermaphroditic wholeness in the pederast who acts both as man and as woman sexually, that is obvious fallacious beyond the level of straightforward sensations;hermaphroditic wholeness can only be "sufficiency," for it has no need of another being and is to be sought at the level of a spiritual realization that excludes the nuances that the "magic of the two" can offer in heterosexual unions.

>>17618720
Fpbp, it just makes you transcend

>>17618778
5/final

Even the rationale sometimes found in countries such as Turkey and Japan, that homosexual possession gives a feeling of power, is not convincing. The pleasure of domination can also be felt with women and with other beings in situations free of sexual intercourse. Besides, such a pleasure could be involved only in a completely pathological context where it would develop into a true orgasm.

Thus overall, when homosexuality is not "natural" or else cannot be explained in terms of incomplete inborn forms of sexual development, it must have the character of a deviation, a vice, or a perversion. And if some instances of extreme erotic intensity in relations between homosexuals should be adduced, the explanation is to besought in the possibility of the displacement of eros. Indeed, it is enough to go through any treatise on sexual psychopathology to see in how many unthinkable situations the erotic potential of a human being can be aroused, sometimes to the level of orgiastic frenzy (from fetishism even to animal sodomy and necrophilia). The same anomalous background could include the case of homosexuality, although the latter is much more frequent: a displaced eros for which a being of the same sex can serve as a simple, occasional cause or support, as in so many cases of psychopathy, although it must wholly lack every profound dimension and every meaning higher than experience because of the absence of the necessary ontological and metaphysical premises. As we shall see in certain aspects of sadism and masochism, it is possible to find elements that can be included in the deepest structures of heterosexual erotics and that become perversions only when freed from limitations. No similar recognition can be given in respect to homosexuality.

I’ve tried being gay but found that it produces absolutely zero pleasure as compared to heterosexual relations. Henceforth my conclusion is that those who are homosexual must have an enlarged prostate which causes them excessive reinforcing stimulation outside of what natural evolution intended as a means to urge you to poop.

>>17618676
>Anyone else?
Yeah, your mom.

>>17618676

>"There is a whole ritual related to anal penetration through the narrow door that opens on the labyrinth (in the man, the intestine). In Tantric Yoga, the center of Ganesha, the guardian of the gates, is in the region of the rectum. The male organ, if it penetrates directly into the zone of the coiled energy (Kundalini), can allow to awaken it brutally and to cause states of illumination and sudden perception of transcendent realities. This is why this act can play an important role in initiation. "This explains a rite of male initiation, widespread among primitive peoples, though rarely reported by Western observers ..., in which adult male insiders have sex in the anus with novices ... The custom of this kind can be very much at the basis of the homosexual eroticism encouraged so strongly by the Greeks in the classical period. This act is one of the accusations made against the Dionysian organizations by their detractors, and against certain initiatory groups in the Christian and Islamic world

>>17618806
The more you mess with your prostate and believe it to be pleasurable the more it will be pleasurable when you mess with it. That’s why it always takes a few tries to have a prostate orgasm, that’s why after you have one you can’t go back. Try getting pegged, need not be a man who fucks you.

>>17618868
>The more you mess with your prostate and believe it to be pleasurable the more it will be pleasurable when you mess with it.
You see, I find this hard to believe that in this line of thinking homosexuals would simply be hypnotized victims. Leaving a good dump feels good for the relief. If being gay is simply the inverse process of dumping then homosexuality is not a genetic occurrence and purely behavioral in full scope.

>>17618905
you just dont get it

>>17618921
>you just dont get it
Care to explain or is that all you’ve got? One needs to try before they can experience the phenomena of what is the hallmark of homosexuality? Or are you trying to distinguish the attraction to males and prostate orgasms?

>>17618740
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>>17618788
Omg just chill and let people do what the fuck they want.

>>17619019
>just let people do what they want
What are the wider implications of such a broad applying philosophical stance?

>>17619047
Nietzcshean Imperivm

>>17618857
I can't believe people read philosophy just to get horny
Bravo Evola

>>17619154
what are you talking about anon

>Read Wittgenstein
>become autistic
anyone else?

>>17618720
Reading something like this is why I would not try it. What if you like it too much? It could turn you gay or ruin normal sex for you.

>>17619202
What if I try having vaginal sex with a girl? I might like it too much and it might turn me straight or something.

>>17619202
pegging is a thing, you know...

>>17619214
Vaginal sex is normal, natural, procreative, and special. The two things aren't comparable.

>>17619177
Same. I can't stop arguing with my instructors about how retarded Universal Grammar is.

>>17619214
>Sodomy is the same as normal copulation

>>17619343
>normal copulation
so you're a mere animal who only exist to reproduce?

>>17619798
>so you're a mere animal who only exists to orgasm?
Congratulations homo, you have officially arrived at monasticism. Welcome and enjoy your stay.

>>17618740
What did he say about lolisexuality?

>>17618720
What does a prostate orgasm feel like? Is it really brain wiring that allows this?

>>17618720
It sounds like you've really fucked yourself up, anon.

Why do tranny jannies delete threads with actual discussion of Evola, but leave this up?

>>17620087
If done wrong, if feels weird
If done right, there are no words do describe, maybe cum fountain would be the closest thing to it

>>17620370
Why do tranny trads not flag off topic shit threads?

>>17620416
I flagged it, but tranny jannies leave it up anyways

>>17618720
Is this why they say gays reproduce through rape? The anal rape of a guy rewires his brain to love prostate orgasms rather than regular penile orgasms?

>>17618788
>Even the rationale sometimes found in countries such as Turkey and Japan, that homosexual possession gives a feeling of power
What is even being referred to here? I’m Japanese and have no clue.

>>17620758
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPtdJTrLNHw&ab_channel=dakooters

>>17620658
I can enjoy both cake and icecream for desert.

>>17620658
I knew one gay man who told people that he became gay when he was raped as a kid and he liked it

I cant imagine that happens every time though, im sure often times its just painful. It takes some people weeks or months of experimenting just to experience their first prostate orgasm

>>17618676
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>>17620785
do you guys remember that indonesian guy who was officially the biggest registered rapist in UK history (or maybe from the entire history can't remember) and that targeted men and had said something about introducing his victims to the homossexual world? truly a sick mind

>>17620785
the running theme is that everyone who has a gay experience ends up gay, almost like being gay is good and that it's society that conditions men against it.

i hate the few times i've bottomed. jealous of people who have prostate orgasms. looks hot.

>>17618720
Get help.

>>17618788
Tldr

>>17619214
It’s time to get off the internet for abit anon, your parents are worried about you

This thread is >>>/lgbt/

>>17620416
Kill yourself tranny

>>17620871
Truly an averages homo lol