/lit/ - Literature

>>17617693
His mother was right about him.

>>17617702
Be that as it may, he was also right about her.

>>17617693
I ain't read him yet, but I'm looking forward to it.

>>17617693
Happy birthday, Schopie
>>17617702
Fuck off. His mother is a nobody who, as he predicted, is only remembered through him

>>17617734
He’s remembered by juveniles such as yourself.

>>17617774
I'm sure you are very much an adult calling people "juvenile" on Greco-German philosophical development forums online.

>>17617774
Let's take a look at all of the people he's inspired:
>Wagner
>Nietzsche
>Tolstoy
>Freud
>Jung
>Einstein
>Schrodinger

>>17617797
Just the fact that you this board that way proves my point. You don’t care about about beauty or candor, but “philosophy”.

>>17617799
All frauds, every one of them. Tolstoy had genius but he forced fraudulence on himself frequently and it was assuredly this side of him that was drawn to Schopenhauer.

>>17617693
I know nothing about this guy other than he hated his mom and thinks women are whores
which obviously is down to mommy issues and that resonates with me but I know fuck all about philosophy

So what work of his do I start with?

>>17617829

>>17617693
What would Schopenhauer answer to James Joyce's musical passages?

His aesthetics kind of gets weird when you think about all the 20th century art.

>>17617829
>A handful of the greatest composers, philosophers, writers, psychoanalysts, and scientists are all pseuds! It is I, stupid fucking 4chan poster, who is the true genius!

>>17617831
Start with the Greeks, but it may not hurt to read some of Schopie's essays first. But if you want to really start with him, read On the Fourfold Root of the Principle of Sufficient Reason, then The World as Will and Representation.

>>17617851
That’s right.

>>17617851
>They’re the greatest because academics told me they are! Do not contradict L’Academie!

>>17617831
Before reading Schopenhauer, you need to be familiar with the philosophies of Plato and Kant. As for Schopenhauer himself, start with the Fourfold Root of the Principle of Sufficient Reason, move on to The World as Will and Representation, and finish with the selection of his essays and aphorisms from Parerga and Paralipomena published by Penguin.

>>17617838
It should be illegal to possess images of this man.

>>17617831
You would be right about that, as there is even academic literature to link his views on women to his mother's behavior. But Schopenhauer is much more than that! As the anon above pointed out, founding figures of the 19th and 20th century all loved him. If you are in the mood to begin with his chief work, start with The World as Will and Representation. Or you could start with his treatise on Kant where he lays out his epistemology: The fourfold root of the principles of sufficient reason. If you want to start with secondary literature, Bryan Magee's work on him is great.

Can any Western philosopher be more based than Sri Schopenhauer?

>'ate loife
>'ate Neetshey that fooker
>'ate me mum
>'ate jews dem tricky shits
>luv sadness
>luv musicks
>luv Goethe
>simple as

>>17617949
Is this what happens when anglos try to into German philosophy?

>>17617949
schopenhauer was german not a brit bong

>>17617693
Unhappy birthday Schope! :/ Hope you're glad to be dead!

>>17617693
It's only fitting we play some music for the occasion: What do you anons propose?

I say:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFPqTCR0_F8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQizi3-pINo

What Schopenhauer enjoyed, and what Schopenhauer led to the creation of.

So where the fuck do I get all his stuff? There a torrent or an archive.org link?

>>17617799
>Wagner
irrelevant music
>Nietzsche
incel-tier philosophy
>Tolstoy
French-copying faggot
>Freud
could have been a good thinker but had to make everything about himself
>Jung
literally a joke only taken seriously by schizo and self-developing faggots
>Einstein
contributed nothing that he owes to schopenhauer, was wrong about quantum physics
>Schrodinger
contributed nothing that he owes to schopenhauer, was wrong about quantum physics

>>17618099
Check the sticky.
http://b-ok.cc/
http://libgen.rs/

>>17618101
You only make them all the more endearing. I salute your efforts!

>>17618131
I mean for a collection instead of the usual single issues but thanks anon

>>17618101
That’s right.

>>17618101
Holy cope

>>17618166
I'm not aware of a collection like that. He only published a handful of books though. It wouldn't take long to download them individually.

>>17617799
Proust, Borges, Wittgenstein, Nabokov (see sons writing on his last words)

>>17617774
Says the English mutt.

>>17617702
his mother was a worthless whore

>>17617880
Lol please get the actual full two volume version of P&P. Jesus. PLEASE. Also, you may start anywhere, although if you’re troubled you should refresh on Kant and P. Even though he says start there, he elsewhere says his philosophy is like Thebes and there are many gates (prize essays)

Why are there no temples to the Will? Where is the incense and where are the hymns?

>>17618298
What do you think are the Hindu temples? Even Abrahamic religions worship it, though they dress it in so many dogmas.

>>17618315
>What do you think are the Hindu temples?
t. never set a foot in India

>>17617693
First incel

>>17618320
Of course I haven't. I have read Schopi's writings and the Upanishads though. Do I have to be a practicing monk of Brahmin lineage to comment on eastern religions?

>>17618333
You should spend less time on the internet sweaty.

>>17618378
>Of course I haven't.
Lot of people go to India.
>I have read Schopi's writings and the Upanishads though. Do I have to be a practicing monk of Brahmin lineage to comment on eastern religions?
No, but you clearly don't know what you're talking about.

>>17618393
>No, but you clearly don't know what you're talking about.
If you do, then enlighten my darkness.

>>17617919
who even draws this shit lol

>>17618333
He had a few illegitimate daughters though

>>17618504
people with talent (not you)

>>17618101
>>Wagner
>irrelevant music
This isn't even good bait. At least try.

>>17618981
>not good bait
>4 (you)s including (you)
it's even better than what I expected

>>17617865
>On the Fourfold Root of the Principle of Sufficient Reason, then The World as Will and Representation
Read at least the Critique of Pure Reason before this.

>>17617693
Bump for Schopie.

>>17617871
>>17617877
Who would you recommend instead?

>What? Nigga I don't know anything bout natural science. That shit's gay homie.

Still no one in class.

>>17617840
In Schopenhauer's time, the only non-representational form of art was indeed music, which is why he rightly singled it out. Modernism striving to strip other art forms from their representational aspects is quite decently explainable in his system. Personally, I think, he wouldn't like though.

>>17617900
His onlyfans is hot.

>>17618043
Since Schopenhauer told Wagner to give up on music I wonder what he would have thought of his later stuff.

>>17617877
Ironic, considering Schopenhauer wasn't an academic, in actuality, he condemned professionalised philosophy heavily.

I've just read his Essays - Councils and Maxims.
If anyone is after some honest concise wisdom check it out.
I can see why Jung would say something like that, he really is of such a superior kind.

>>17617702
Fpbp

>>17617799
>all crypto-mystics
wow, such inspiration

Germans are retards outside of making machines.

>>17622757
He also isn’t the least bit relevant in the history of philosophy and nobody mentions him outside this shithole, unsurprisingly.

>>17617829
>All frauds, every one of them.
I doubt you have ever read any of these men. Its just wikipages all the way down.

>>17619025
This.

>>17620943
He'd probably compare Joyce to Hegel, but I don't think he could deny the artistry either.

>>17617693
Based king

>>17623297
Nietzsche owes so much to Schopenhauer
Even if you hate his work this alone gives him a place in the history of philosophy.

>>17617877
academia told me they are all dangerous dead white men who should be avoided.

>>17617693
>C.G. Jung:
>One day people ... will build monuments to Schopenhauer!
pseud recognizing a fellow pseud

>>17623297
Get out of your basement once in a while

>>17617693
>C.G. Jung:
Just fuck off with this schizo subhuman

Schopenhauer is about the most nihilistic philosopher there is. Literally the essence of the whole universe is useless. Why is he accepted and Nietzsche is called mihilistic and discarded here.

>>17626518
He gives you the possibility of redemption, the temporary release with the arts, and encourages you to fill your life with compassion. With Nietzsche, you just have "just be yourself bro. it's all subjective bro. there is only power bro. the weak? the unfortunate? fuck them". Of course the philosopher of love and compassion is appreciated over that lunatic.

>>17627064
He saw the drama of humanity as undesirable and unnecessary.

>>17626518
How can you view nihilism through this lens? Schopenhauer is a life denialist par excellence. So you're right nihilism is a constituent to his philosophy, he's not trying to combat nihilism, he's embracing the ceaselessness of the striving Will, wholly devoid of direction nor meaning.

>>17626518
It's stupid to reduce either Schopenhauer or Nietzsche to nihilism.

>>17617731
Absolutely BTFO