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A zoologist who observed gorillas in their native habitat was amazed by the uniformity of their life and their vast idleness. Hours and hours without doing anything. Was boredom unknown to them? This is indeed a question raised by a human, a busy ape. Far from fleeing monotony, animals crave it, and what they most dread is to see it end. For it ends, only to be replaced by fear, the cause of all activity. Inaction is divine; yet it is against inaction that man has rebelled. Man alone, in nature, is incapable of enduring monotony, man alone wants something to happen at all costs — something, anything.... Thereby he shows himself unworthy of his ancestor: the need for novelty is the characteristic of an alienated gorilla.

>> No.17602469

based retard cioranposter

>> No.17602481

>>17602444
Based and checked

>> No.17602677

Boredom didn't exist until the industrial revolution. In paleolithic times, shelter, food and water, the essentials for life, were difficult to secure, so when they were sitting infront of the fire, sleeping, and relaxing didn't cause guilt, as what needed to be done had been taken care of. Similar to the gorillas, once you couldn't relax, it meant you had to secure the requirments to survive again

>> No.17602874

>>17602444
>the need for novelty is the characteristic of an alienated gorilla.
this is where Cioran BTFO'd the human species

>> No.17602915

>Far from fleeing monotony, animals crave it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bky70tM2T9I

>> No.17603711
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17603711

>>17602677
Based

>> No.17603774

Stone Age Economics by Marshall Salins basically confirmed that hunter-gatherers spent a lot of time just hanging out. He said they mostly talk about gossip and food in their downtime. simple lives

Cioran is based

>> No.17603779

>>17602677
nonsense. boredom is God's greatest problem.

>> No.17603803

>>17602677
Dilate tedtranny

>> No.17603805

>>17603774
but like, how the fuck can he possibly know that?

>> No.17603876

>>17603805
come up with boolshit
get it ((peer reviewed))
published and it becomes sacrosanct.
attempt to dispute and here comes the Cancel.

>> No.17603894

>>17603805
>>17603876
I don't agree with Sahlin's conclusion (that "primitive" people are actually affluent in regards to working hours), but he was an anthropologist who just went to these tribes and recorded what everyone was doing and for how long they did it.

>> No.17603923

>>17603803
Dilate transhumanist tranny

>> No.17603937

>>17602444
Checked. Based Cioran poster.

t. gorilla

>> No.17603948

>>17602677
>>17602444
based and checked

>> No.17603977

>>17602677
>Boredom didn't exist until the industrial revolution. In paleolithic times, shelter, food and water, the essentials for life, were difficult to secure
Anthropologists believe that hunter-gatherer tribes may have spent as little as 15 to 20 hours a week on food acquisition.

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17604019

>Having a horror of any action, he keeps telling himself: “Movement, what folly!” It is not so much events which vex him as the notion of participating in them; and he bestirs himself only in order to turn away from them. His sneers have devastated life before he has exhausted its juice. He is a crossroads Ecclesiast who finds in the universal meaninglessness an excuse for his defeats. Eager to find everything unimportant, he succeeds easily, the evidence preponderant on his side. In the battle of arguments, he is always the wiener, as he is always the loser in action: he is “right,” he rejects everything—and everything rejects him. He has prematurely compromised what must not be compromised in order to live—and since his talent was over-enlightened as to his own functions, he has squandered it lest it dribble away into the inanity of a work. Bearing the image of what he might have been as a stigma and a halo, he blushes and flatters himself on the excellence of his sterility, forever alien to naive seductions, the one free man among the helots of Time. He extracts his liberty from the enormity of his lack of accomplishments; he is an infinite and pitiable god whom no creation limits, no creature worships, and whom no one spares. The scorn he has poured out on others is returned by them. He expiates only the actions he has not performed, though their number exceeds the calculations of his wounded pride. But at the end, as a kind of consolation, and at the close of a life without honors, he wears his uselessness like a crown.

>> No.17604066

>>17603977
Source?

>> No.17604134

>>17603894
>but he was an anthropologist who just went to these tribes and recorded what everyone was doing and for how long they did it.
huh
well, that's as good a method as any i suppose

>> No.17604161

>>17604066
Subsistence Ecology of !Kung Bushmen, Richard Barry Lee.

>> No.17604164

>>17603803
We /out/cels, moon cricket

>> No.17604189

>>17602677
books on this?

>> No.17604365

>>17604161
>>17603977
>>17603894
>>17603774
This is bad. Hunter-gatherers actually worked more hours than we do. 4-5 hours spent on hunting on average and another 4-5 hours on preparing and cooking the meat, and then preserving the leftovers + other subsistence work. They did have some free time but there was a lot of work to be had - one could proverbially phrase it "the food won't hunt and cook itself"

>> No.17604397

retardedly based and impossible whitepilled

>> No.17604426

>>17604365
the people hunting weren't the same as the ones preparing and cooking the meat. and any leftovers preserved meant less hunting needed in the next few days. Use your brain, midwit

>> No.17604442

>>17604426
>the people hunting weren't the same as the ones preparing and cooking the meat.
everyone helped what they could to best allow for survival

>> No.17604519

>>17604442
In real tribal world, men hunt, then flog woman around to cook meat.

>> No.17604597

>>17602677
>Boredom didn't exist until the industrial revolution
Retard

>> No.17604616
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17604616

let's stop arguing about these bushpeople and start honoring the words of Emil Cioram, eminent philosopher of the enlightened few

>> No.17605088

>>17602677
>Boredom didn't exist until the industrial revolution
amazing how people actually think this

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>>17604019
>In the battle of arguments, he is always the wiener

>> No.17606212

>>17604019
>He extracts his liberty from the enormity of his lack of accomplishments

Very Hegelian passage.

>> No.17606221

>>17602677
Imagine taking the schizophrenic ramblings of a literal tranny seriously.

>> No.17606235

>>17602444
what book is this from?

>> No.17606273

>>17603805
>>but like, how the fuck can he possibly know that?
with atheist science, you wouldn't understand

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>>17602444
Humans have an obligation to labour. Being a sloth is a sin.

>> No.17606420

>>17606400

Why?

>> No.17606424

>>17602677
You're genuinely retarded if you believe this

>> No.17606440

>>17606420
Dont ask questions just work

>> No.17606462

>>17606440
Shut the fuck up prot.

>> No.17606474

>>17602444
>dat mandible
If I had his facial aesthetics I wouldn't have to cope with philosophy.

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>>17606462
Triggered much, medsloth?

>> No.17606497

>>17604019
Where is this from? I see parts of myself in both this excerpt and the gorillas in the OP. I don't feel boredom nor do I ever feel the nerd and desire to do stuff. I can lie in the woods by myself for hours on end without doing anything. I can walk for hours and hours without an aim or purpose. Just walk where my legs take me. Not to reach a point or to meet someone.
Snd I can wait endlessly for nothing. Wait for no end to come. Just sit and wait.

>> No.17606516

>>17602677
People were floating in comfort and hedonistic pleasure since the earliest of civilisations

>> No.17606523

>>17606516
How do you know that?

>> No.17606525

>>17606420
>>17606492
Labor is a curse inflicted on mankind by God. Man was meant to be free from such things as laboring for sustenance, and worse laboring for things which merely appropriate it from others labor. Anyone who says work is a good thing is indoctrinated into a masochistic culture of work for works sake. Even worse is the "work hard now so I can enjoy my retirement", always said by people who never get to enjoy their retirement. Trading away todays pleasure for a mythical tomorrows pleasure is just a bad deal.

>> No.17606553

>>17606523
I read Homer who lived then

>> No.17606629

>>17602444
I love this Eraserhead still,very Lynchian

>> No.17606641

>>17604365
>>17604426
>>17604442
>>17604519
These are all brainlet tier opinions and scientifically inaccurate.

Besides, applying industrial concepts of work and free time to prehistoric tribes makes little sense anyway. We will never know if they thought of cooking as work, since our modern concept of work is alien to them.

>> No.17606744

>>17606641
the first two you quoted contradict each other though. So you're saying, they didn't work a lot, but also didn't not work a lot?

>> No.17606746

>>17602677
Replace "industrial revolution" with "agriculture" and it's actually true

>> No.17606778

>>17606746
Replace "agricultural" with "neolithic" and its actually true

>> No.17606798

I always thought black people would be bored sitting on their porches all day but apparently they use marijuana.

>> No.17606806

>>17606778
Replace neolithic with "first animal to crawl out of water" and you'd actually be close to the truth

>> No.17607309

>>17602444
based

>> No.17607430

>>17606497
The NEET one is from A Short History of Decay, it is called "Effigy of the Failure"

>>17605191
It was supposed to say winner, lol

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17608332

Monday is tomorrow.

>> No.17608743

>>17602444
Did he actually say this? Our whole lives are inaction.