/lit/ - Literature

>>17601033
Translations are fine. People here seem to not like P&V idk why. I think that is the preferable translation. Garnett is google translate tier,

>>17601033
Translations are fine. People here seem to not like P&V and suggest Garnett instead idk why. I think that is the preferable translation. Garnett is google translate tier. Had a Russian professor who said the same.

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>>17601126
>Mazower's father was of Russian Jewish descent.[2]

I am starting to scare myself with the power of my Jewdar

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>>17601145
This you?

>>17601166
ahaha yeah something along those lines

>>17601033
Rate shelf

>>17601205
No New Testament?

>>17601225
got the abridged old testament from a friend. Haven't read it yet. Yeah I should buy the whole bible probably

>>17601239
which of the books have you been reading lately? Pretty good collection by the way.

>>17601249
I read the Idiot, Werther, reread Moby Dick and the Iliad lately. Currently reading Don Quixote and Inherent Vice, but they are not on the shelf.
Also read a lot of Nietzsche last summer. Good shit.

>>17601071
Yeah, I like P&V I've read all of Dosto with their translation, good to know a Russian prof backs them up too. That's a very tall stack ya got there.

>>17601265
Good man, I have not read many of those books, except for the Iliad which is an amazing text, especially for those interested in war. But I can see that you have Tolkien's translation of Beowulf, that's something I'd like to read, having read some other translation long ago.

>>17601146
I dont think you understand what a stack is bud

>>17601265
How is The Idiot? I was looking to pick up Demons but they didn't have it so I got The Idiot instead.

>>17601298
I liked the Idiot a lot, but I don't know if it's a book for everyone. It has really good parts but as a whole C&P or notes from the underground are better

>>17601283
Yeah planning on reading Beowulf in march or april. Bought the J.R.R. Tolkien translation because I read LOTR and the hobbit

>>17601249
Also read a lot of Hölderlin poems in german. He is a really great poet

>>17601033
1- there are no good nietzsche translations
2- even if there were, when the source material is tranny repression cope its worthless

>>17601338
hmm, I just finished Notes yesterday. I'll probably save The idiot for a lil later then.
It says on the back the protag 'finds himself a stranger in a society obsessed with money, power, and manipulation.' Which sounds like something I will appreciate.

>>17601118
Hey, I have the same edition of Brod's Kafka book (not that it's rare or anything).

>>17601386
It's a great book, you should give it a shot. Just don't expect an easy easy read

>>17601393
Got it from my father.

>>17601682
Based

>>17601145
>>17601166
kek

>>17601205
How is that Dutch translation of Spengler?

>>17601719
It's great. Spengler is good shit

>>17601682
How long will it take you to read all of that? are you an academic or an autodidact?

>>17601905
probably a year or two, not an academic, i'm interested in learning philosophy but I admit that I won't read every page of Aristotle and Plato.

>>17601950
7/10, not enough non-fiction.

>>17601912
Oh, stop it. This is not your stack.

>>17601786
Yeah true, I'm debating on reading it in Dutch or English, I've read other Spengler works in English but the Dutch translation of Untergang is more recent.

dont reply to me

>>17602403
this pic should have had the art of war and then it would be complete.

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>>17601118
Why bother with translations of Douglas Adams? If you're posting here you'd have more than enough English for the originals.

I've noticed this kind of thing on youtube too. People with excellent English who are still reading translations of English-language works, when the original is so basic that a schoolkid could read it.

>>17602721
Bought thos when I was 13 or 14. Haven't reread since then and so haven't bought an english release yet.

Went to my local second-hand bookstore for my birthday.

Went to the local used bookstore for my birthday.

>>17602721
Fuck douglas adams

>>17602403

>>17601033
Avoid P&V for Dostoyevsky

>>17601682
You already posted this you fucking faggot ass nigger

>>17601033

>>17601682
In a year or two you'll realise what a waste it was buying all that

>>17603082
Youre going to need to elaborate on that. I've read a lot of dosto with P&v and it has all been great. I've never read an actual academic critique of their translations, only substanceless attacks on 4chan. Do you actually have anything to say? I'm listening.

>>17602403
>newfags still falling for this bait

>good translation
no.
http://johnstoi.web.viu.ca//nietzsche/beyondgoodandevil_tofc.htm
remove the extra "/nietzsche" in the urls otherwise they don't work

>>17603218
Based

>>17603218
in an earthquake your done.
also, kinduva fire hazard , no?

>>17603062
Reina Valera 1995 is also good.

>>17601105
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>>17601146
your bookshelf is very semitic

>>17601033
What do you think of the Idiot?

>>17601033
>Did I get good translations /lit/?
I thought all English translations were always good, since consumers have high standards, unlike here, in South America

>>17601033
>P&V The Idiot
way to go retard

>>17604128
I haven't started it yet, but I just finished Notes from the Underground so ill probably read a few books before I start it. I can only take so much Dostoyevsky in a certain period of time, ya know?

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>>17601377
would you dumb fucking faggots please FOR ONCE give a single measly explanation on why a specific translation is bad instead of just saying 'no' and 'retard'.
Believe it or not, I actually want to know if there is anything OBJECTIVELY wrong with a specific translation, and why, so I can get the better one.
I know I'm wasting my breath because you don't actually have an answer, and don't read books anyway, but fuck my ass its annoying. I wish I could slap the shit out of you.

>>17604706
>why a specific translation is...
>OBJECTIVELY
>bad instead of just saying 'no' and 'retard'.
No, retard.

>>17601071
People here shit on both desu. PV is more like the original but dry, Garnett is more stylistically pleasing but notorious for omitting whole passages. (I haven't read either since my language is closer to Russian than English and I allowed myself to read my native translation)
>>17601682
How is the trivium and the Bible?
>>17603062
What do you think about Orthodoxy?

>>17604114
He's German, what did you expect? They're taught to hate themselves and worship semites

>>17601033
If it's Kaufmann translation you got kiked

>Neetch The Idiot
Kek

>>17606530
What's kiked about Kaufmann? What would you suggest instead?

>>17606270
>What do you think about Orthodoxy?
Very good. G.K. Chesterton is a great writer so it's very readable. The ideas themselves are great too

>>17606543
Not him but don't take Kaufmanns opinions in footnotes complete at face value and you're good to go.

>>17602389
Different anon, but I can't see why you wouldn't prefer a Dutch translation of a German book over an English one.

>>17606530
Yeah, it's the Kaufmann translation what about bitch. Say one reason why it's bad or suck my fucking cock.

>>17607316
That sounds more reasonable. If you've read it, how is his biography of Nietzsche?
>>17607601
Several reasons
>English books are cheaper
>I tend to read more in English in general
>I've read other Spengler books in English
>I don't mind reading in Dutch but translations are usually pretty wonky from experience and comparison
If someone can tell me that edition is an impeccable translation I might read it though. They look nice at least.

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>>17609360
Another important reason, since they're so (superficially) similar, Dutch translations of German books tend to over-Germanize the Dutch which then reads like it's very old-fashioned or somewhat foreign.

>>17604069
I plan on getting a Douay-Rheims for a reference bible