/lit/ - Literature

inb4 judging a book by its cover

>people liking weeaboo bullshit cartoons in a style that was stolen from America and then branded as 'anime'

>>1756658
>People liking english-written wordy-books stolen from the ancient scriveners of other tongues and called "books".

For the most part, anime has about the same literary merit as pulp fantasy novels and (at least in the US) is marketed towards the same crowd. It's light entertainment that doesn't intend to be taken seriously.

Well, Evangelion is the anime that immediately comes to mind as having similar value to a book, and I think many people would agree. Also, while Gurren Lagann isn't poetic in its dialogue, it's just so uplifting that I'd place it in book tier.

Also Boku No Pico

God isn't there like 10 fucking anime boards on 4chan?

What the fuck is with these weeaboos incessantly prattling on about their chinese cartoons?

>>1756658
who stole what again?

guys at one time books were "light entertainment" too!

everyone on this board is just so closed minded

>>1756679

They need to escape from the reality of what pathetic feminized eunuchs they are by watching cartoons about manly heroes killing evil warlords. You know, typical nerd escapist bullshit for people who will never get to prove themselves in real life.

>>1756685
Yeah, I would never have thought those bible-nerds would push their testaments and shit so far.

>>1756656
Madoka is shit

>>1756703
yeah the ending kind of blew...

>>1756672
This is often the case, but there are certain titles which can be on-par with literature. For the most part the storytelling is incoherent and muddled, or pandering to a demographic of neck-bears, yes.
>>1756676
Yes, and this thread pertains to literature.
>>1756685
Look at fabulous and how open minded he is, everyone, give him back pats. Go away.

>>1756709
At least you're smart enough to realize that

>>1756707
>support some weirdo's thread
>gets bitched at because he's like a fag hunter or something

FLCL, Voices of a Distant Star, and The Place Promised in Our Early Days all qualify as serious works of art in my opinion. I would also put Rahxephon forward as a longer on...then there is of course the critically acclaimed gar-fest of TTGL, which despite the tongue-in-cheek craziness has a serious message and awesome character development.

>>1756707

The "storytelling" in most anime is either one of two things:

1. Comedy and girls with big eyes AWW HOW CUTE bullshit.

2. LOL MINDFUCK I AM SO DEEP RITE? bullshit.

Either way you won't really be impressed by anime "storytelling" if you're over 20.

>>1756718
>maturity appeal
that's pretty immature

>>1756674
>Evangelion
Of course.
>Gurren Lagaan
Hm. I liked it, but it's too much of an almalgam of it's medium I can't exactly say it's novel-esque, it's more like anime on crack and the substance is mostly in it's crazy as fuck visuals.
>Boku no Pico
BUT OF COURSE

Also, non-anime: I'd add in Lost and Twin Peaks.

>>1756714
>critically acclaimed gar-fest of TTGL
what the fuck is gar?

>>1756721
>Lost
smh

>>1756713
I'm gay you orientation-shaming assfaggot.

>>1756726
A shitty four or so yr old /a/ meme that /a/ doesn't even remember any more

>>1756726
Masculinity explosion male fans appreciate in a no-homo manner.
>>1756728
Why?

>>1756725
like that has anything to do with anything


why do you have to bring your sexuality into EVERYTHING

>>1756734
From pictures I've seen, Gurrenn Laggan seems extremely childish and not masculine whatsoever.

>>1756734

Because Lost is dull, hackneyed self-indulgent crap that only likes to pretend it has an actual plot.

no but seriously i dont like you

youre just a downer

>>1756736
To illustrate that neither my or your orientation has anything to do with my response to you, nor should you think this so, as it's actually on the basis that you're retarded. This is true for anyone else who takes shit up with you, too.

>>1756738
No, it's overly masculine in many ways. And on the surface it is infinitely childish. Most of it is tongue-in-cheek like I said though...there are some serious themes and messages under it all, and the characters are all quite well developed. It won a considerable number of awards in Japan.

Great American TV shows:
Deadwood
John from Cincinnati
The Wire

Breaking Bad is also pretty good.

Kino's Journey, Grave of the Fireflies, Kare Kano, and Metropolis

to name a few worthwhile titles

>>1756755
It didn't win at the Japan Media Arts Festival so who cares lol?

what's that one anime where a girl with zany character traits pursues some ordinary guy with no apparent interest in her

>>1756758

Where's Carnivale and Twin Peaks?

Two of the greatest, most all-American things to ever appear on my goddamn TV machine.

>>1756761
Kare Kano was better manga than anime IMO...I second everything else listed.

Princess Mononoke, Wolf's Rain, Blue Sub Six

Also, add Toradora! to the list if you like character development and romance.

>>1756740
Well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

>>1756769

Every fucking anime ever

>>1756769
is it that one where they're in high school?

>>1756772
I covered Twin Peaks.

Haven't seen Carnivale yet. A shame it, too, was cancelled. Did it have an out of nowhere quick-wrapup finale on the level of Twin Peak's, or did it finish as if another season was around the corner?

Anime is, for the most part, about little teenage shitheads and is, for the most part, aimed at little teenage shitheads as its main market.

Anime is just whacky Japanese animated versions of Sabrina the Teenaged Witch and Saved by the Bell. Nothing to see here.

>>1756782

Finished as if another season was around the corner. Last episode was whacked out but didn't explain much about what was really going on.

No one has mentioned this yet?

Monster is probably more entertaining as a novel, though.
Actually, was it originally a novel?

Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex explicates 'Simulacra and Simulation' almost better than Baudrillard. Seriously, if i was teaching a class, there's two episodes i would show, and then they would get it.

No one's mentioned 20th Century Boys? That shit is excellent. I recommend it to any /lit/bros.

>Anime is just whacky Japanese animated versions of Sabrina the Teenaged Witch and Saved by the Bell. Nothing to see here.
Pic related. Man, it's just like that one episode of Saved by the Bell where Slater opened the seventh seal and his friends coagulated into tang.

I'm not retarded i was being nice to you

you must have no social skills

it doesnt surprise me that youre here

>>1756797
Plus, Salinger references drove the first season's entire arc.

>>1756674
>Evangelion
>novel tier

No.

It's hard to call any anime or manga "novel-esque." They all stick way to closely to their genre to be really original and they rely heavily on cliches a lot of the time. Evangelion is just robots with some biblical references and for some reason that makes it fucking legendary.

I really liked Madoka, I thought the plot was really well executed, better than anything I've seen in a while, but I wouldn't consider that book-tier, either because it's mostly just a mahoushoujo.

Certainly not the best thing I've ever read either, but I guess the closest thing to novel-esque would be the manga "What A Wonderful World" by Inio Asano. It's more like a collection of short stories, but it doesn't cling to any genres or cliches or bullshit like 99% of other anime and mangu do. Its the closest thing to literary realism I've ever seen/read in terms of anime and manga which I think largely contributes to why I consider it more like a novel than anything else.

>>1756813
Many consider Eva a deconstruction, so I wouldn't really say that's an accurate assessment.

Hm anime, there sure is a lot of shit out there and I haven't watched any of the new ones.
But there are some animes out there who are pretty good and who are not just aimed at teenagers.
But yeah there isn't an anime who would get close to a novel like Crime and Punishment or A Tale of Two Cities for example.
Mangas are a little different. There are some quiet interesting ones out there. I loved 'Liar Game' since it is a really well planned, intelligent manga. Also some of the longer series are quiet well done. And also the art in some mangas is just breathtaking.

madoka is a deconstruction too

>>1756813
>Evangelion
>Novel-tier
>No.
Yes.

>>1756816
Bokurano and Madoka are deconstructions too, and some even like to argue that Lucky Star is a deconstruction of slice of life (lol no not really), but I don't think that necessarily makes it novel.

>>1756830
That brings to mind Haruhi.

Novel-tier? Anyone?

>>1756838
>>1756830
>>1756822
>>1756816
shut the fuck up

>>1756813

Eva also is rife with Jungian psychology.

>>1756838

Well it was originally a series of novels (which were more like a collection of short stories) so I'd have to say for sure. Also, that was one of the few anime that tried to be funny where it actually fucking worked for once.

>>1756838
Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya was originally a novel, I believe.

>>1756841
Ties it in with existentialist ideas as well.

>>1756842
Well, light novels. Basically YA fiction, and with pictures.

Also, not that it had a plot worthy of novels, but R.O.D is ABOUT novels, authors, and bibliophiles, so it needs a mention.

Pic related.

>>1756842
haruhi's humor is based around nerdy references and heavy-handed sarcasm so I can see why lots of people here like it

Haibane Renmei. Not terribly surprising, as it was pretty clearly influenced by a couple Murakami books. It's basically like Haruki Murakami and Hayao Miyazaki smashed together, and beautiful.

>>1756857
Finally something worth talking about.

You're worse than the games-are-art crowd. Enormous fighting robots? Jungian psychology? What is Super Mario a deconstruction of?
Shouldn't these guys figure out lip-syncing and actual mouth animation before tackling moral relativism?

>>1756866
>What is Super Mario a deconstruction of?
We've been over this time and time again and we all know it's a Marxist critique of contemporary society> It's just plain obvious and if you can't see it then you aren't very well-educated

>>1756878

Mario, as a proletariat plumber, is challenging the plutocrat Bowser for redistribution of wealth. Bowser is clearly hoarding wealth by hiding coins inside of blocks, rather than partitioning it out to his subjects. However, what need is there for Bowser anyway? He doesn't pilot the airships or clean the pipes of the Mushroom Kingdom, so it's clear that a classless society would be the answer here.

>>1756866

Man, like i said. Stand Alone Complex dealt with some weighty stuff so well that you wouldn't even realize that, in the course of watching one of the most well plotted and well executed shows on tv, you had developed an intuitive understanding of one of the crowning principles of one of the big names in continental philosophy.

>>1756889
baudrillard is an asshole and he can suck my dick

>>1756887

and then you have the movie version of Mario where the evil beureacratic politician Bowser turns ordinary people into mucuous....

>>1756887

That doesn't explain why the bushes and the clouds are the same.

>>1756889

I saw the first movie. I liked the part when the head exploded, I'm a man of simple pleasures I guess.

>>1756901
I think you'll find that was Koopa... that's kind of a story about one aristocracy deposing another, and then it going back again, with it paralleling the real world corporate king taking over. The ending though is a bit like Star Wars, where the Princess becomes a fighter for the common man.

What's OP's pic from?

>>1756918
Ghost in the Shell I think

TV shows I like:
Lost
Carnivale
Breaking Bad
House
Supernatural

Anime I like:
Trigun
Neon Genesis Evangelion
Gurren lagaan
gankutsuo
Shiki
Haruhi

Currently watching:
[C] The Money Of Soul and Possibility Of Control
Stein's; Gate
Star Driver
A Certain Scientific Railgun
Twin Peaks Season 1

Damn, forgot to add:
fooly cooly
Monster

>>1756938
>star driver

>>1756959
That's hardly the worst thing on that list

The only anime this season I picked up and haven't dropped is Ano Hana, everything else looks terrible

>>1756966
im pretty new to anime...

it's not like he's watching bleach or something

>>1756971
is ano hana
>Ano Hi Mita Hana No Namae O Bokutachi Wa Mada Shiranai
?

because im watching that too and i love it

Also started Ergo Proxy.

I also quite like the .Hack// series

This was actually good. I'd recommend it. Also, it used some kick ass classical music.... Scheherazade suite, UNF.

I don't know about Madoka, haven't gotten around to watching it yet, but Princess Tutu already takes the spot for deconstructing mahou shojou among other things.

holy shit Tutu-mind

anime that I consider to be literary-esque?

ghost in the shell, eve no jikan, and kino's journey

What is Ano Hana about?

Nabokov hasn't got shit on Japan.

Utena is the best mahou shoujo, nothing else even comes close

>>1756997
a group of childhood friends grew apart once one of their group died. the girl that died appears to the protagonist years later, asking him to fulfill a wish (but she doesn't know what the wish is). so, to try to figure out what it is, she asks him to get the old group of friends back together

Ah, sounds interesting and i'll download it now. Best sub group?

>>1757015
I just watch gg because they're always the first to get it out and they're perfectly fine

Yeah, i've just started to obtain the gg's subs. How often are they released?

>>1756938

Now that you've seen Gankutsuou and Evangelion, watch Revolutionary Girl Utena. That anime is epic intense.

It looks like I've already seen all of the good anime, I mean the ones that have any actual storytelling quality to them.

Anime is fucking silly.

You would have to either be thirteen years old or just get blazed as balls to appreciate most of the stuff.

It says a lot about a genre of media when there's no appeal in it when you're a sober adult.

>>1757039
I don't think anyone's going to fight you over this

>>1756676
>God isn't there like 10 fucking anime boards on 4chan?

Yes, and they are all shit and would recommend gay pedo shows to OP. Oh wait, that has already been done in this thread as well.

Anyway, the show that best fits OP's request is Serial Experiments Lain.
Seriously. More philosophical depth than half of what /lit/ is usually reading, absolutely exceptional show (except for the art, which didn't age that well, but is still ok).
Ergo Proxy tries to come close to that, but fails in my opinion. I enjoyed it when i originally saw it, but didn't finish rewatching. It's one of the cases where /a/s usual complaints about "pretentious" shows are actually true.
You might still want to give it a shot, as well as Evangelion (overrated in my opinion), Kaiba (if you can get used to the art style and a good dose of infantilism), Tatami Galaxy (if you're good at speed-reading subtitles), Mind Game and, of course, everything by Satoshi Kon, who was kinda like the anime equivalent of Dario Argento. I particularly recommend Paranoia Agent and Perfect Blue, although Paprika usually gets more acclaim.
After that, there's not too much left unless you go for the visual arts angle or just want light entertainment.

>>1757039
>It says a lot about a genre of media when there's no appeal in it when you're a sober adult.
>Is a sober adult who who has never been un-sober, who appreciates many anime
Derp.

>>1756918
>>1756924
Yup, it's from the first GITS movie.

>>1757069

Maybe that's just because you have the mind and emotional development of a child.

>>1757089
Probably.

>>1757033
I get that feeling as well and i also get the impression that almost all of the good shows deal with the same concepts over and over again. Basically, a mix of existentialism and zen buddhism, probably with a healthy dose of psychedelia thrown in, although that could just be the easiest way for me to access these shows.
"Psychological" (as the Japanese call the shows that /a/ calls LOLDEEP and people in this thread call good shows) is just another genre, it has the same amount of genre conventions as action or romance and they get about as played out equally fast.
Evangelion was the original rendition (and still rooted heavily in the genre conventions of classic shonen anime with giant mechas), Serial Experiments Lain was the perfection of the genre, everything else has a tendency to feel like a rehash after some time. It's fun while it lasts, though.

Hi, Brooks.

>>1757065

I really liked Ergo Proxy (although it was kind of heavy-handed sometimes and had some unfortunate pacing issues.)

And Paranoia Agent is great too.

i'm actually reading 20th Century Boys. Though, only up to volume 5.

>>1757105

The thing is that applies even to anime that aren't psychologica/philosophical mindfucks. Like even for good blood-pumping action anime it feels like all of the good concepts and ideas have already been used or are just being rehashed.

>>1757118
I still wonder if Ergo Proxy would have been better as a full-length 26 episode series or if they should have tried to stick to a short 13 episode format.
There's also a few plot holes etc.
Of course, the art is great and the show really blew me away when i originally saw it. I'm not saying it's bad by any means, just that i see some flaws with it nowadays.

>>1757139
Of course. Like i said, these shows are as bound to a very strict formalism as their more easygoing counterparts in other genres.
It seems to be much more about meeting set standards, innovation just takes a back seat to it until someone dares to come up with something new that becomes an unexpected success and the cycle repeats.

The only luck I had with non-anime fans was Evangelion and Legend of the Galactic Heroes. The latter is based off a novel series so that prob does't count.

I'm just gonna hone in on this:
>(or other films, series, etc.) that you value as much as books
And say the BBC series Connections, American Beauty, What The Bleep Do We Know?, American Splendor (yeah that's two things with American in the title whatever), documentaries in general, and as far as anime goes the only one I could sit through ever was Akira which is a good movie period.

Akira, anything else by Otomo
Miyuzaki is another given/Ghibli

I'd say that's about it. Anything episodic is bullshit.

Wait, Cowboy Bebop can be an exception.

Actually I forgot, I liked one called Metropolis but my friends into anime talked shit about it so I don't normally mention it.
Nausicaa and the Valley of the Winds or however you spell that shit was alright too but I just couldn't sit through it all and stay entertained, had to watch it 3 or 4 times to get the whole story.
Renaissance was a decent enough sci-fi animated movie.

>>1757229

That's because Nausicaa was a condensed and in most ways completely retold adaptation of a serialized comic the director was writing at around the same time.

I think he just used an abandoned early draft of the plot outline for the movie or something.

A few people are mentioning Evangelion, and while I agree that I value it as much as any book, it's not because it's 'book-like.'

It has it's own characteristics as an anime that simply would not translate into novel format especially in the Rebuild. For instance, no amount of text could compare to how visually stunning Rebuild's Ramiel is. It's been promoted from 'Floating Laser Crystal' to 'Quasi-Sentient Non-Euclidean Doom Machine,' and that's only in 1.0.

There are certain ideas that only really come alive on screen, be it anime, western animation, or live action film.

I know everyone hates it and it doesn't have a lot of value, but I thought the planning in some of the Death Note episodes was quiet well done.

Others that are good: Monster, Serial Experiment Lain, Ergo Proxy

I don't watch much anime, but I think Mononoke should be mentioned.

I read a lot of manga- but you're right, there are cliches in a lot of them that are mingled together. I honestly think that graphic novels would probably be a little more deserving of this list. Consider Watchmen (not the movie, obviously), a graphic novel which was critically acclaimed. I personally also liked V for Vendetta (again, not the movie) and the entire Kabuki series.

The Black Company by Glen Cook should be made into an anime series.

>Gankutsuou only mentioned once
wtf I thought /lit/ had a constant boner for The Count of Monte Cristo. Gankutsuou nailed the persona of the Count better than any other adaptation I've seen.

I usually don't let myself compare across the two mediums, but some like to utilize a lot of the same qualities that I like to see in books. I'm thinking in particular of Jin-Roh, Monster, Ghost in the Shell, Trapeze, Eve no Jikan, Baccano, and anything by Satoshi Kon.

Avatar : The Last Airbender.

>>1758124
DEWD. i just watched genkutsuou. finished it last week. it was great. i don't watch animes like that, but a friend talked me into it.

i like animated films such as:
the man who planted trees
petrov's version of old man and the sea
watership down

and shit like this. japanese animation is cool but there is a world of creative animation out there.

>>1758124

/a/non here.
I randomly clicked this image on the front page and came here to see what lit was discussing.

>Jin-Roh

YOU MAKE ME PROUD

>>1758095

>The Black Company by Glen Cook should be made into an anime series.

Already been done.

>>1757992

I really think 4chan just hates Death Note because it became too mainstream.

Once you get past the retarded fans you see roaming around in their filthy bare feet at anime conventions, the style and story are actually pretty decent.

>>1758095

and here i thought that was called berserk

You guys had a good thing going when you mentioned Haibane Renmei, aka the best anime series ever conceived.

But then you forgot about it.

Your pic reminded me of why hate anime, OP

Because the males in anime are effeminine pretty boy queers. They are very poor role models for young male. They do not encourage masculine behaviors. They encourage feminine traits such as vanity and sloth, and encourage men to behave in a decidedly non-masculine manner. By glorifying effeminacy anime is encouraging its young male viewers to be weak, ball-less, spineless pussies instead of men.

That is part of why anime is total crap. Because of the attitudes it tells young men are acceptable.

>>1758497
>still believes in gender roles

>>1758502

See how far acting like a woman gets you when some gang of thugs breaks into your house and steals your shit and you don't fight back because you think being a weak feminine beta male is acceptable so you don't fight back

Enjoy seeing the women in your life get raped by some creep because you can't stand up to fight to protect her

The beta male trend is sickening, and this whole anime and manga culture just encourages that by promoting sickly, scrawny girly looking men as its "heroes." There is just something wrong and backward and immoral about that. It's counterintuitive and creepy.

>>1758505
>it's counterintuitive and creepy
As is your inherent sexism and desire for antiquated gender roles.

>>1758505

Do you live in Uganda? Because generally neither of those worry me in a first world nation.

>>1758516

If you've ever lived in a large city both of those things should worry you. I live in a town where people have been killed and raped on a nearby college campus infamous for crime. There have been serial rapes on that college campus, recently there was a drive-by murder. Yet this beta male attitude of not fighting back and protecting people encourages these people to get away with that kind of thing.

>>1758497
>>1758505
Except it's not a man in OP's pic, it's a female cyborg. Look who's out to find penises everywhere he goes. :3

>>1758531
If it were to encourage them of anything, it'd be to not do all that harmful shit in the first place.

>>1758531

I live in South London and neither of those worry me. I'm a 5'6, male, skinny pacifist who has somehow managed to survive all these years completely fine without ever needing to fight back or get involved in fights to begin with.

I agree that encouraging people not to help or intervene with others is a bad thing but I don't understand how someone is a beta male for how they look, dress or behave besides that. I know women, men, young and old who help those in trouble which is something that occurs regardless of gender.

>>1758531
I'm not going to live my life in fear. That's seems more like your gig, bud. Enjoy that.

If it comes to it, I'm more than willing to defend myself and those I love. But that doesn't mean I'm going to be peeking over my shoulder every waking moment of every day and practicing endless contingenicies in my head until the "inevitable" day of reckoning comes just so I can say, "I told you so."

Sage because this thread isn't about anime at all anymore, and has instead been hijacked by hypermasculine faggots.

>>1758539

It sounds like you have no survival skills. Grow a pair of balls and learn to fend for yourself.

>survival skills
>2011
why dont you take a trip to >>>/somalia/ libertarian retard????

>>1758558

Funny you say that, I'm going to visit a Coast Guard recruiter tomorrow in hopes of being ultimately sent either there or the Persian Gulf.

>>1758553

why do I need survival skills? What use is it to me?

Akira

The comic is WOW.

>>1758565

Try saying that when some gangbangers smack around and gangbang your girlfriend. Try saying that when your car stereo gets jacked. I don't care what your mommy told you, the world is not a nice, safe place.

>>1758497
1: It's a female
2: Ghost in the Shell features the guy in my pic, and besides owning a basset hound he's the machoest motherfucker in any medium.
3: By your opinion, I guess females are beta-creatures? Then why don't you give them the same ire? What about masculine women?
4: There are feminine characters in novels and always have been, should books be excused on the grounds "herpderp some of them don't have alphaz!!!11!"?

>>1758571

Books and media that show non-alpha characters are only excusable if they show weak male characters in a bad light, as victims or as despicable (which they are)

I do not reserve the same ire for women because they are supposed to act in a feminine way, but it would also be unwise for women not to know how to protect themselves. They are still not as strong as men though and therefore men need to stand up to protect them from other men who want to hurt them or who can't control their impulses.

>>1758568
>car stereo gets jacked
Listen, kid, noone is going to "jack" your car stereo now because it's fucking 2011 and pawn shops stopped taking those in like 2001. More likely they will take your iPod when you carelessly let it fall from your pocket on the bus. Either way, losing a stereo does not equal losing your life. And, the bit about your girlfriend getting gang banged, learn the most basic survival skill of all which is to know where there is danger and when there is danger and how to avoid it. It's not that hard. I've had a gf for 4 years now and she's not gotten gang banged yet.

>>1758572
>still not as strong as men
So you're using genetics. Yet you're using a universal coda and applying it to ALL males, even though the strength between each male varies and is genetic.

I'm 5' fucking 2 and don't build muscle mass, your argument is invalid. Pic related.

>>1758574

>I've had a gf for 4 years now and she's not gotten gang banged yet.

How do you know?

And I was using a milder example, it's quite possible your life would be in danger from a gang or a lone wolf psycho or thug if you wandered into the wrong place at the wrong time, or even in your own neighborhood. If you look like a beta male with no intimidating presence, or if you are unarmed, you will be an easy target. Men like that aren't good mates for women and aren't an asset to themselves or anyone else.

>>1758572
What are you trying to make up for, anyway? I don't know whether to laugh at you or feel genuinely sorry for buying wholesale into the consumeristic machismo BS.

>>1758585

I'm not trying to make up for anything, other than that I know that a lot of men don't even make a fucking effort not to act like castrated pussies. That kind of cowardice, laziness and lack of balls is a terrible thing in a male.

>>1758581
How would I not know? Anyway, you seem to be quite the fearful person yourself. That's what you should master before you learn how to fight off these roving gangs of thugs, etc. You are carrying the thought that the world is a safe nice place to it's opposite extreme and that's just as maladaptive. I've lived in very "dangerous" neighborhoods..the truth is that the dangers of these neighborhoods is exaggerated. First of all, wandering into the "wrong place at the wrong time" would be a huge lapse of cunning, and cunning is probably the biggest survival skill of all. It doesn't matter how "alpha" you are..you can be the strongest guy in the world and still get shot in the face just as easily--but if you are a socially adapted person, capable of talking to anyone on *their* level, you won't even have a problem in the most crime infested neighborhood. I am speaking from experience. So-called "thugs" target people for a lot of reasons, and most often to test someone who thinks they are bad-ass. If you are someone who is self-assured you will have a lot less of a problem then someone who twists their own fears and insecurities into aggression. real talk.

>>1758581
A good mate is one who can provide for the needs of their partner, not necessarily the alpha meat-head you describe.

"survival skills" in this day and age, have more to do with functioning effectively in society, compared to fighting and long distance running.

>>1758568

The only advice my mom ever gave me was "it's better to look good than to feel good".

But stopping your car stereo from being stolen isn't really a survival skill. More about location & luck.

Everyone in here is a faggot for not mentioning the following, from best to excellent:
Millenium Actress,
Paranoia Agent
Tokyo Godfathers
Paprika.

You bunch of homos.

>>1758595
You forgot Perfect Blue.

>>1758595
Millenium Actress is the best thing he's done, and perhaps one of the best anime films ever, and no one fucking mentions it ever.

>>1758606
Agreed. I don't understand why Paprika gets all of the accolades.

On the other hand, Paprika wasn't even mentioned when Inception came out, even though it had an obvious influence on Nolan.

>>1758590

I'm not fearful. I have the confidence to know I can keep myself and other people safe. People don't realize it but if someone ever tries to fuck with them when I'm around I'll be the first person to kick that person's ass. For example, it's legal in my state to shoot some shithead if you see him committing a crime in progress. Do you know how long it takes a cop to show up on the scene compared to how long it takes an armed bystander to plug lead into the shithead that's committing the crime?
A damn fucking long time by comparison.

>>1758611
No, you are fearful. You are fearful that someone is going to attack you or yours. You are fearful that people have the worst intentions and wants on their mind. You are fearful you will be seen as weak or emasculated. You are fearful that you will have your "ass kicked."

>>1758611
Well all im saying is that to imagine danger where there is none can turn an okay situation into a dangerous one.

>>1758595
I said "anything by Satoshi Kon"