/lit/ - Literature

Not only that but the most beautiful Anglo prose was written by a Polack and a Russian

Eliot is shit even for a woman

>>17553545
Huge hole cope

>>17553545
It's not true of the US or poetry but it is actually true of British novelists, and I'm not really sure why.

>With regard to England I have really nothing to say, for there we have to deal with a puritanical land, delivered into the hands of women—which signifies the same thing as having fallen into a state of absolute decadence.

>>17554177
this, also: checked

>>17553545
Anon I think the people who say women can't write are retarded but there is no universe in which Dickinson is better than Chaucer, Donne, Spenser, Blake, etc. She isn't even the best female poet, Elizabeth Barrett Browning and the Brontë sisters are better. Hell, Anna Kavan and the Brontë sisters are better novelists than the two you mentioned.

>>17553545
Fuark, ever since I was a kid, the image of chicks breathing in tight clothes and making their breasts push up even more firmly against their tops has always driven me fuckin wild. Girls wearing corsets are the best examples of this.

Women have very slightly higher verbal intelligence

>>17555989
based

Honestly I haven’t enjoyed any piece of writing that I’ve read from Dickinson and in general every female I’ve read has been on average worse when compared to their male counterpart. And the greatest female writers all seem to fall incredibly short of the greatest men.

>>17553545
damn that bubble butt in the VVitch really was a body double huh

>>17553604
>a Russian
God I hope this pitiful fool isn't referring to the monumentally idiotic hack-lord Nabokov.

I think it's because of the use of prosody, explains why women are better than men at rapping too.

>>17553545
whys she hiking the dress up, i dont get it

>>17556445
Have you read any of Woolf's novels?

>>17556445
>the greatest female writers all seem to fall incredibly short of the greatest men
This is something I've also noticed. The gap is utterly massive. There are also loads more great men writers than women for some reason. It seems to me like, in general, men seem more compelled and driven to create incredible art.

>>17557149
this is because a vanishingly small minority of women have to sublimate their sex drive, while a good chunk of males do.

>>17557116
A tiny bit a long while ago, I dropped it. Can’t remember which book it was, I remember thinking it wasn’t my aesthetic or preference and simply didn’t leave a impact. Name a book and I’ll read the first 10 pages and that ought to be enough to judge whether she’s worth continuing to read. Yeah?

>>17557218
The Waves

>>17556445
Bell curve desu, the average woman might be a little smarter than the average man. But, there's more men who are outliers than there's ever going to be women outliers. This is true in just about every field. Men are the ones always being pushed to achieve or they'll never get anywhere. Ever notice how women tend to lean towards being midwits while dudes are a little more likely to be either grug retards or smart as fuck?
>17557101
I'm not giving a (you) for such trash bait.

>>17557286
Alright I’ll begin right away and will return after I’ve read 10 pages, and have contemplated them.

>>17557091
no, pleb. Ayn Rand

>>17557450
I'm going to get ISIS to throw you off of a building for voicing such a terrible opinion.

>>17557286
To put it bluntly, I’m not impressed.

The portion I enjoyed the most was the opening page describing the rising sun upon the waters, and even that one I found the description to be trying too hard to be just descriptive and photographic and not charged with enough conceptual aspects. I get it’s trying to convey a mood but still, I worried from it that I was going to run into a similar experience as I had with HD, but I actually found she has the opposite problem to HD after that page.

What follows is honestly, a gimmick. I call it a gimmick because at no point was I allowed to forget I am reading a book, at no point was an illusion created in which I forgot the medium and enjoyed the beauty for itself.

Her style didn’t impress me in it because all she did was assault us with a ton of similes, but these failed because the majority of them weren’t impactful emotionally and as for their intellectual content, they’re closer to the stuff that appeals to those who want poetic feels and not genuine intellectual sustenance. This would be normally fine but she’s trying for too formless a style, in this formless vocal simile style she keeps casting images and I keep seeing emptiness in them. It was nothing but a dance of empty shapes with the occasional goodline on a technical level. If you cannot get me into the illusion you have failed, if your illusion strives for the formless style it must have a purpose otherwise it is nothing but emptiness. Perhaps this was a meme selection and her other books are less gimmick filled.

I cannot see why someone would read this over something like thunder Perfect mind. Let me show you a difference in power.

Cont

>>17557648
I was sent forth from the power,
and I have come to those who reflect upon me,
and I have been found among those who seek after me.
Look upon me, you who reflect upon me,
and you hearers, hear me.
You who are waiting for me, take me to yourselves.
And do not banish me from your sight.
And do not make your voice hate me, nor your hearing.
Do not be ignorant of me anywhere or any time. Be on your guard!
Do not be ignorant of me.
For I am the first and the last.
I am the honored one and the scorned one.
I am the whore and the holy one.
I am the wife and the virgin.
I am <the mother> and the daughter.
I am the members of my mother.
I am the barren one
and many are her sons.
I am she whose wedding is great,
and I have not taken a husband.
I am the midwife and she who does not bear.
I am the solace of my labor pains.
I am the bride and the bridegroom,
and it is my husband who begot me.
I am the mother of my father
and the sister of my husband
and he is my offspring.
I am the slave of him who prepared me.
I am the ruler of my offspring.
But he is the one who begot me before the time on a birthday.
And he is my offspring in (due) time,
and my power is from him.
I am the staff of his power in his youth,
and he is the rod of my old age.
And whatever he wills happens to me.
I am the silence that is incomprehensible
and the idea whose remembrance is frequent.
I am the voice whose sound is manifold
and the word whose appearance is multiple.
I am the utterance of my name. (And it continues on with this same power)
Or let me show you another one, from John dee.

I am the daughter of Fortitude,
and ravished every hour from my youth,
for behold, I am understanding & science dwelleth in me: & the heavens oppress me,
They cover and desire me with infinite appetite
few or none that are earthly have embraced me
for I am shadowed with the circle of the son:
and covered with the morning clouds:
My feet are swifter than the winds,
& my hands are sweeter than the morning dew.
My garments are from the beginning:
& my dwelling place is in myself.
The lion knoweth not where I walk: neither do the beast of the field understand me. I am deflowered & yet a virgin.
I sanctify & am not sanctified
happy is he that embraceth me.
for in the night season I am sweet,
and in the day full of pleasure.

And this one Laos continues on for sometime.


Do you know what’s the similarity between these three works? They project femininity, they project formlessness, they are filled with images. The difference? These two do not feel empty, the imagery used is just as fast paced if not more so than Virginia’s but has many times more force because it isn’t empty simple that only reflects at most emotion and at worse just attempts to string together nice sounding descriptions that are semi relevant based on a cast who only exist to move forward the images.

Cont

go off frater. trash that ho

>>17557655
I wondered after reading 10 pages if she would do this for the entire book so after reading I skipped to random parts of the book and did not see any change.

I’m not saying this to be controversial, I just wasn’t impressed. Again compare something like Hertha to it. Also it didn’t help that all of the characters had the same exact voice. If I can see the man behind the mask he’s wearing a poor costume, so is it with this art.

But again, perhaps this is just a flaw of the specific work and she’s more convincing in other works. I can’t imagine they’re all written in this style.

>>17557656
I mean it honestly comes off more like an average prose poem. I can’t understand how this has so much acclaim and support when there’s so much more beautiful and descriptive prose that actually can take you and drag you into the illusion world of the author’s mind. I mean look at this:

“I SEE a ring,’ said Bernard, ‘hanging above me. It quivers and hangs in a loop of light.’
‘I see a slab of pale yellow,’ said Susan, ‘spreading away until it meets a purple stripe.’
‘I hear a sound,’ said Rhoda, ‘cheep, chirp; cheep chirp; going up and down.’
‘I see a globe,’ said Neville, ‘hanging down in a drop against the enormous flanks of some hill.’
‘I see a crimson tassel,’ said Jinny, ‘twisted with gold threads.’
‘I hear something stamping,’ said Louis. ‘A great beast’s foot is chained. It stamps, and stamps, and stamps.’
‘Look at the spider’s web on the corner of the balcony,’ said Bernard. ‘It has beads of water on it, drops of white light.’
‘The leaves are gathered round the window like pointed ears,’ said Susan.
‘A shadow falls on the path,’ said Louis, ‘like an elbow bent.’
‘Islands of light are swimming on the grass,’ said Rhoda. ‘They have fallen through the trees.’
‘The birds’ eyes are bright in the tunnels between the leaves,’ said Neville.
‘The stalks are covered with harsh, short hairs,’ said Jinny, ‘and drops of water have stuck to them.’
‘A caterpillar is curled in a green ring
I’d even say this was over much if this was just the first half of one page, but it’s a poor application of trying to feel mysterious by casting an attack of rapid fire imagery. None of them particularly strong. And am I to believe a man is the one speaking when I read

Look at the spider’s web on the corner of the balcony,’ said Bernard. ‘It has beads of water on it, drops of white light.

Am I to believe these are a host of characters and not just one person trying to make many voices of feeling covered imagery? What would I gain in terms of aesthetic or intellectual pleasure, self contemplation, emotional movement or even just lowly crass energetic pleasure if I read this entire book if it’s just this same empty repetition? I don’t believe reading 10 pages or 100 pages of this would change my mind.

>>17557450
holy shit this is somehow infinitely worse than it being Nabokov. oh fuck man this is just goddamned embarrassing, considering killing yourself you simian-browed fucking dimwit

>>17557091
>t.Dostoyevsky

>>17553545
The best female English novelists are Emily/Charlotte Bronte and Jane Austen. I love all three, but let's not sit here and pretend that they can compare with Dickens, Thackeray, Trollope or Hardy, in terms of their whole bodies of work.

As for Emily Dickinson "easily": Chaucer, Shakespeare, Spenser, Marlowe, Keats, Coleridge, Wordsworth, Byron, Shelley and Hardy will all like a word.

I only regret that in the Year of our Lord MMXXI I still reply to bait threads.

>>17553545
Eliot is the only truly "great" english female author in my opinion. the rest are mediocre at best

>>17553545
Shakespeare and Milton

>>17557107
the fart was silent

Why isn’t anyone arguing with frater about this?

>>17560195
rock hard

>>17560206
because he's right

>>17560206
Because nobody has read The Waves; and it's all subjective

>>17560214
Lol nah CBA with that autist, I've read his poetry about his retarded god quest, I'll stick too Woolf.

>>17560241
>I'll stick too Woolf
>too

>>17560241
Waves is a good book as well, autism will filter people but that's life, some are born better than others.

>>17560241
It’s not about the quality of my writing, it’s about the quality of the writings of the multitude of others who you could be reading. If you dislike the fixation I hold, there’s nothing I can do to change your opinion concerning it. Actually give an argument for why my critique isn’t appropriate.

>>17560254
Why do you consider it a good book? How is it not just a gimmicky string of similes that all sound like they come from the same voice? Like, if you want I’ll pull some words and will remove the names of the person in the book who says it, we can try to see if you can determine the characters from their speech alone. I doubt it will be easy.

>>17553545
>best novelist: George Eliot or MAYBE Virginia Woolf
FLANNERY O'CONNOR, YOU DUMB MOTHERFUCKER!

>>17560293
Filtered dude that's it, I can't change your mind that's why I wasn't going to say anything until that guy asked why nobodys arguing with you. I just was showing that some people like the book. I can't make you like it, funny we disagree on this seeing your the only guy who likes Dunsany and Machen like my favourites as a teen.

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>>17560437
Eh i honestly don’t believe I’m being filtered as there’s nothing intellectually overwhelming or incomprehensible to it. I understand exactly what she’s trying and I don’t care for it. Her language isn’t somehow extremely obscure, the rapid fire simile isn’t unique I can show a ton of religious poetry that does it historically and in a superior fashion. Again, if a book cannot make you fall into its illusion it has failed, in general I agree certain books should by their construction require deeper study to comprehend and enjoy fully, but the book feels like a string of empty images and if you cannot place me into your world then I think you’ve failed.

As for your favorites as a teen being Dunsany and machen, honestly Their control of imagery and atmosphere is far superior. They don’t have a gimmick and have works written more for fun, sure, but I simply haven’t seen anything in woolf’s works which can even induce an aesthetic illusion.

Again, I’ll blame it on the book in question and not her skills. If I’m being filtered tell me what is it I didn’t “get”

>>17560437
Again, here’s some speeches from the book. Tell me who says what.

“Come”, and he comes towards me.’
‘I shall edge behind them,’, ‘as if I saw someone I know. But I know no one. I shall twitch the curtain and look at the moon. Draughts of oblivion shall quench my agitation. The door opens; the tiger leaps. The door opens; terror rushes in; terror upon terror, pursuing me. Let me visit furtively the treasures I have laid apart. Pools lie on the other side of the world reflecting marble columns. The swallow dips her wing in dark pools. But here the door opens and people come; they come towards me. Throwing faint smiles to mask their cruelty, their indifference, they seize me. The swallow dips her wings;”

Who is the speaker?

“ “and twenty days of July. I have torn them off and screwed them up so that they no longer exist, save as a weight in my side. They have been crippled days, like moths with shrivelled wings unable to fly. There are only eight days left. In eight days’ time I shall get out of the train and stand on the platform at six twenty-five. Then my freedom will unfurl, and all these restrictions that wrinkle and shrivel—hours and order and discipline, and being here and there exactly at the right moment—will crack asunder.”

Who is the speaker? I bet I could do this for a majority of the speeches and most wouldn’t be able to tell the voices apart.

>>17560478
Look I like jazz, people tell me it's just noise, I can't explain too people why it's not. Same with Woolf, it's not just a string of empty similes when I read it. I'm pretty feminine for guy as things go.

Idk are you like a young man, maybe age will change your opinion.

>>17560533
Ronda

>>17557450
BASED

>>17560560
>Idk are you like a young man, maybe age will change your opinion.
Stop larping as a wise oldfag Frater is a married man lol

>>17560560
Kek, sounds like it’s less a question of being filtered and simply not feeling the same, which is to say, a matter of taste.

>Look I like jazz, people tell me it's just noise, I can't explain too people why it's not.

Eh, I’m the opposite, I can explain why I like everything I like and often will write essays on it for my own pleasure concerning it. In terms of music I prefer anything from disco, certain parts of jazz, classical you get the idea. Wide range.

>Same with Woolf, it's not just a string of empty similes when I read it. I'm pretty feminine for guy as things go.

Eh, I don’t really have any feminine aspects.

>age

Nope, I do however try to cultivate a spirit/mind that doesn’t leave go of innocence/purity. Commonalities in my taste is well, none of them are emotional/sentimental mush. Pathos has never done it for me and at minimum I want philosophical depth, if not this I want prose I can consider beautiful, delirious and actually capable of pulling me into the writer’s imagination. But I’ll admit I dislike modernists in general save a few cases.

But don’t think I’m being acidic on purpose, if you have reasons for why you don’t think it’s empty, I’m interested in hearing and again I’d sooner blame the experimental style of the book than the woman herself. Googling critique of the book that others have given, I can find people echoing my complaints. Even those who like her work in general.

>>17560593
Positive and negative, first is Ronda, second is Susan. Did they both sound identical? Being half right is Pretty good!

>>17560610
Oh I always thought filtered was about taste.

>>17557648
What actual fuck do you want from a piece art you massive autist?

>>17560667
Nah, filtered means the intellectual content of the work was too high or required too much reading on your part and you didn’t get it. You got filtered by the high quality because you’re a low tier plebe who doesn’t “get it” which isn’t a question of taste.

Example, you can say hegel filtered a person because they didn’t understand what he was saying (because of low intelligence or lack of study of prior philosophers.)

But not liking Conan the barbarian doesn’t mean Conan filters you. Just means you dislike it. Kek

>>17560610
Who are those exceptions?

>>17560678
something good, I would assume. woolf cannot do this

>>17560682
Ok dude your alright, agree to disagree with Woolf, I have BPD and dissociation and she is the writer who's come closest to charting the inner turmoil I feel, I'm pretty bias in my love. That's why I really do feel she speaks to me, also why I could tell Ronda who is the character who suffers from this in the book.

I never thought of this.
There is not a single female german writer who is pretended to be a good writer.
Cornelia Funke is probably the most famous of all and she wrote mostly in english and for kids kek

>>17557091
Nabokov is a brilliant writer anon.

>>17560752
I just tried to come up with counter-examples but the only ones I know live in Austria or Switzerland.

>>17560678
1=for the medium of the work to become invisible which is the standard we hold all other arts too unless the medium is especially key to the art itself.

You don’t fixate on the instruments in a song, you don’t fixate on the canvas and style in a painting, you don’t fixate on the director in the good film. You focus on the beauty of the song, on how lovely the image is, how impactful the film is. Same with prose and poetry, if I do not forget I am reading a book, it hasn’t become invisible and thus the author has failed. This isn’t the case when for certain reasons the medium itself is key, think of stuff like cryptography,

But even so, you can still find those works which fixate on medium to be poor, not to your liking.

If I cannot enjoy your art work as an experience, you have failed in your art.

2=Ideal/philosophical depth.

You might not care about this, but I do. The aesthetic should be where the world of sensations/material feelings is married to the intellectual world of ideas, philosophy, conceptions. I personally desire these. But this doesn’t have to be like you know, a info dump on Swedenborg or kant in the middle of your book like Balzac does, someone like Nerval will intoxicate you with his idea, submerge you into his ideas, make every piece of the aesthetic make you consume the idea. Thus you gain a sight into his view of the world and you see a beautiful harmony as presented by his imagination.

3=Art at minimum should strive to induce one of the following.

1=Energetic excitement in the mind. (She fails because she is repetitive, I can go to any page in the book and I’ll likely find a string of empty simile, her language has sparks of skill but sparks is not enough for beauty)

2=excitation of the emotions (you cannot grow attached to the characters by this method of writing, the images fade to fast to leave any impression unless you give yourself over to your own imagination and you do the heavy lifting of producing emotional change. Something we would never ask a piece of music to do or a well crafted poem.)

3=excitation of the ideals (one is moved significantly by the work to the point where they must contemplate life, meaning, their own ideals and their one self)


All in all, the characters all felt like they had the same voice, the similes weren’t effective enough because By majority, which is remedied by their rapid fire nature but their rapid fire nature is the whole gimmick, the Plot and narrative certainly means nothing for this style of writing. So what exactly do you seek out of art? If I can’t have basic fun, if I can’t have emotional change, if I can’t have contemplative depth, well what is even the point?

>>17560799
>in Austria or Switzerland.
If they wrote in german, that counts. Please share their names.

>>17560747
Eh, I have an incredibly stable personality and a extremely strong sense of ego(it’s why I’m so pretentious!) I personally don’t have any internal turmoil of note. But yeah I get that taste differs, if it’s just a question of taste how can I possibly argue against your opinion?

>>17560722
Kek, I mean I’ve said a lot of authors who I like who they can freely shit on. I’d just like to hear why they like her. Again if they want I’ll try another 10 pages of another one of her books when I get home.

>>17560819
You can't, I like how she makes me feel I can't justify it.

>>17560811
Elfriede Jelinek
Herta Müller
Sybille Berg

>>17560819
I would recommend you to read the poetry of Li Chʻing-chao. Will you share your opinion on her work?

>>17560718
I’m pretty interested in Ezra pound’s poetry, same to Wallace Stevens, Auden and Elliot.

I’d probably call yeats and pound my favorite of the bunch from the exposure I’ve had to their range.

But even they seem filled with a flavor I find at times distasteful. Difference would be those folks who are more in the decadent/aesthetic/symbolist movement which I love as a whole; but I see a 1000 miles of difference between the works of Mallarme and Baudelaire when compared to the average modernist aesthetically.

In terms of prose, people consider Kafka to be a modernist aesthetically, Joyce is clearly the prince of word manipulation among them and his work is filled to the brim with stuff to unpack, Hesse while not my favorite I’ve seen people genuinely change from reading his work. You get the idea, the only parts I like are those with the most surreal aspects, the most symbolist, most aesthetically ornate, basically the intoxicating delirious stuff. But honestly a lot of modernism isn’t really like that from my exposure.

>>17560803
What’s your favorite novel

>>17560876
What do you think about Nabokov?

>>17560845
I’m actually quite a fan of Chinese poetry, in another thread an anon recommended her work to me. While I can see the value in it, to me it felt like an inferior form of Li-he’s work. Which is not to say it’s bad, But from what I’ve read I’d say it’s good but not unique/impressive. Most definitely a good poet and I enjoyed it better than my experience with Woolf.

Here’s two poems from li-he to compare her to. Tell me what you think of Li-he.

A moon's old rabbit and cold toad weeping colors of sky,
lucent walls slant across through half-open cloud towers.
A jade-pure wheel squeezes dew into bulbs of wet light.
Phoenix waist jewels meet on cinnamon-scented paths.
Transformations of a thousand years gallop by like horses,
yellow dust soon seawater below changeless island peaks,
and all China seen so far off: it's just nine wisps of mist,
and the ocean's vast clarity a mere cup of spilled water.

>>17560891
My three favorite works
The divine comedy
The Chymical Wedding of Christian Rosenkreutz
Seraphita by Balzac

>>17560900
Like him don’t love him. I’ve read pale fire and Lolita I’ve also read a decent amount of analysis of pale fire. He can definitely weave a tale and get you into the world, but at times it drags on and again you feel Tinges of emptiness/melancholy, the likes of which pervades ornate but meaningless designs. His prose is pretty good but not as good as people claim, he can do a pretty good job at the highly filtering kind like in the beginning of Ada, but at times his prose feels like it’s constructed out of random sentences he wanted to say, unrelated and irrelevant to the plot.

His Plot-puzzles are fun, but they’re not that fun to read and get lost in, they’re fun to crack and analyze. Which is you know, fine, that’s why he made them the way he did, it’s just not my preference.

I’ll give an example from Pale fire that shows what I mean.

“ had a tiled bathroom and cost dearer than my Appalachian castle. Neither the Shades nor I breathed a word about our summer address but I knew, and they did not, that it was the same. The more I fumed at Sybil's evident intention to keep it concealed from me, the sweeter was the forevision of my sudden emergence in Tirolese garb from behind a boulder and of John's sheepish but pleased grin. During the fortnight that I had my demons fill my goetic mirror to overflow with those pink and mauve cliffs and black junipers and winding roads and sage brush changing to grass and lush blue flowers, and death-pale aspens, and an endless sequence of green-shorted Kinbotes meeting an anthology of poets and a brocken of their wives, I must have made some awful mistake in my incantations, for the mountain slope is dry and drear, and the Hurleys' tumble-down ranch, lifeless.”


I am an occultist, I’ve studied esotericism for a long time, there’s no reason to write this here except to show people “look what I know! Isn’t this ornate!” And yeah he gets around that by making every single major character a lying self obsessed person with ugly desires, but that doesn’t excuse the fact that you have to actually sit there and read it.

Now I’m not saying “oh nabokov has no depth of philosophy” that’s definitely not true, but nabokov considers himself in the “art for Art’s sake” grouping which I generally like, but even they often notice how empty and melancholic they become, this is best in someone like huysmans who notes the emptiness and tries to fight through it with any aesthetic power he can drum up. The self awareness and naturalness of it purifies the problem, All in all, I would say nabokov is good, but he’s not my favorite and there is clear flaws. Just as much as people might say his prose is the best, I’m sure if you isolated something like “the scepter of my passion” you would people mocking it and others saying it should be mocked.

>>17560970
>you would people mocking it and others saying it should be mocked.

Sorry ran out of space, you would find people mocking it, and others saying it was written in a way that was supposed to be mocked due to the narrator, and others would say they just like it. So I like him but he’s definitely not someone I consider to be one of the greatest.

He’s like 7 or at best an 8 out of 10.

>>17560811
Not him but Ingeborg Bachmann and Ilse Aichinger.

>>17560905
>Most definitely a good poet and I enjoyed it better than my experience with Woolf.
Of course you like her poetry because she was an aristocrat. Damn brah you're pretentious as fuck.

>>17561155
Without a doubt. My taste is pretentious and I find aristocratic works most often far superior to lower class works. Can’t change ones taste yeah?

Compiled this list though, it’s a “favorite female” writer list.

>Marguerite Porete
>Hildegard of Bingen
>Jane Leade
>Edith Stein
>Bhairavi/Devi/kali
>Marie-Louise von Franz
>Wei Huacun
>Mary Sidney
>Saint Teresa of Avila

>>17561190
Are you an aristocrat?

>>17561155
>>17561190
Liking aristocratic works doesn't make you pretentious, pretending aristocratic works are inherently superior is.

>>17561347
As far from that as possible, I’m a Gypo and the vast majority of my family growing up didn’t know how to read or even write their own names. (Even though we live in NYC, kek, but that’s being a Gypsy)

>>17560799
>switzerland
Who?

>>17561359
Oh I definitely don’t think they’re inherently better, I do think they at times have aesthetics I much prefer, but my aesthetic flavors are largely informed by consumption of religious and esoteric literature, which basically only had monks, poets, aristocrats and so forth creating the lasting and most developed works. But again I like folks like Blackwood who I wouldn’t see as aristocratic at all really. I think it’s fine that people have different tastes honestly.

>>17560985
>scepter of my passion
That‘s a part that always catches me off guard. I do think it was meant in a mocking way because it is in such stark contrast to how he describes annabell. I suppose it‘s in line with humber‘s self humiliating ways trough out the book. He thinks of himself very low.
>my aging ape eyes
For example

>>17561362
Damn, 4chan has many oddballs.
Do you went to an ivy league or you're just a 4chan autistic elitistfag?

>>17561362
I really like this name fag

>>17557107
She's getting warm, standing in front of the fireplace

>>17561413
Better to think of me as an obsessive when it comes to world religion and mysticism and my interest in pretty much anything else stems from those two. That’s been the case for me ever since I was a kid. What are your favorite authors? What do you like/look for in your art?

>>17561423
Thanks anon, apologies if I’m over posting within the thread.

>>17553545
>buzzword anglo buzzword
The absolute state of this board. OP probably can't even read other languages

>>17557450
please be real

>>17553545
Best French novelist was a woman, too, y'know?

>>17553545
Literature is waiting for men to take the lead again

>>17561463
I really like your posts man
>What are your favorite authors?
Kafka, Proust, Sadegh, Bernhard, Blanchot, Beckett, Sebald, Pessoa.

>What do you like/look for in your art?
My English isn't good so I can't explain you in detail.
Due being a bipolar I get the best out of both extremes of beauty and darkness. I am just obsessed Proustian moments, where I could completely lose my self to the point where I am almost on the verge to cry from all that immense beauty that surrounds me. I have learned the way to view things from Proust and Pessoa. Sometimes the beauty is so strong that those moments put me in such a deep melancholic state where I being the mourn the loss of memories in the eternity of time.
I like art in which I could lose myself completely or the art which put in the state of intoxication(?) through some sort of unity with the other.

>>17556000
Prove it faggot

>>17553545
meanwhile the only german woman to have written anything remotely of merit before 1900 was Annette von Droste-Hülshoff. Really says a lot, huh?

>>17560970
Frater we've had a few minor disagreements here and there, but one is certain: you have good taste in literature.

>>17553545
anya is a 2/10 here
t. argie

>>17553545
enlgish sucks dick, yet another reason to hate americans (making it global). i literally never read anything in english. it's so disgusting i reather read a shitty translation