/lit/ - Literature

>>17549019
good list but not nearly enough(none) orthodox writings and way too much catholishit stuff.

Aristotle says monarchy is the best system if the ruler is good, not a tyrant. Any books on how you'd make sure the king is good? What kind of succession law would you have that avoids democracy and aristocracy but gives you a good ruler?

>>17549085
orthodox symphonia

>>17549036
That's because Catholicism is the correct denomination since it was the church actually started by Christ.

>>17549110
>
is that why the power of the papacy was built on documents that even the catholic church admits were forged? the donation of constantine, the isidorian decredals. where was the sacred heart worship in the ancient church?

>>17549085
Monarchy with an armed population

>>17549125
>where was the sacred heart worship in the ancient church?
Stolen from Dionysus

>>17549110
>Christ redeems the world
>but you have to be part of the chosen church
Your true colors are showing!

>>17549019
Some pretty good books, throw out the fascist and hoppe trash and it’s not a bad list.

>makes chart thread
>people argue about Christianity and not post any charts

>>17549019

Any books that explore why Monarchy went away from a technical standpoint and not just "muh french revolution"? Like what mechanisms lead to it being outcompeted.

And on the flipside, books that don't just try and state the case for Monarchy but theorize its revival would be of interest as well

how do i read harry potter?

>>17549473
Realistically I don’t see how there could be a revival of the monarchy

>>17549488

Me either, but I'd like to see a case put forth

>>17549488
> can't see revival of monarchy
Democracy just needs to die for that to happen. It has happened before.

>>17549488
Read Plato.

>>17549483
I got you

>>17549019
That's not even the newest version.

>>17549019
charts
https://mega.nz/folder/kj5hWI6J#0cyw0-ZdvZKOJW3fPI6RfQ

>>17549450
This is the chart I didn't know I needed so much, thanks anon
I even have Rinconete y Cortadillo at home

>>17549583
Do you have the newest version
>>17549589
Nice thanks anon

>>17549568
This is pure gold

>>17549568
>>17549608
Need to add Call of the Crocodile

>>17549620
fuck off

>>17549019
>>17549583
>>17549597
Is this the newest version? I guess it says 1.0 because it's renamed it to "/monarchia/".

>>17549738
>monarchists need a hundred books to prove rule by one

>>17549019
Monarchy is the most cringe form of government. Read normal political theory

>>17549776
You don’t need to prove shit if you’re the fucking King.

/r/equesting more charts
anon don't let me down

>>17549738
>that Fritz Imperial video
Good Lord what a fucking zero IQ take.
>Bro like, a monarchy is like a family bro. Don't you like families?
Kinda shit that makes you wan tot pull a Limonov out of spite.

>>17549085
Lord of the rings.

Believe whatever garbage you want about the ideal government being some inbred slacker telling you to subscribe to his OnlyPeasants.

>>17549833
i mean, you can see them all for yourself in the wiki

I don't care whatever form of government you implement as long as it doesn't affect me.

>>17549019
>Monarchy is the greatest form of government
which translates to: 'I let my wife get fucked in front of me as I wear a red baseball cap.'

>>17550174
Pretty based desu

>>17549019

>>17549019

>>17550431
>introduction to tradition
>goes directly from Guenon to Vishnu-Hitler in two books

>>17550485
Needs to be rebranded as "Taking the Chill Pill"

>>17550488
Based

Is there a chart for Westerns? As in cowboy stuff. Having a hard time finding stuff despite it having been such a huge genre for almost a hundred years

>>17550639

>>17549473
Nietzsche and Marx, unironically. They both give you good reasons, not normatively, but practically speaking as to how it occurred, but you have to read between the lines and establish your own viewpoint somewhere in between (which is to say, don't take their theorizing as gospel). Evola, again unironically, builds upon both, but he doesn't do so in the same amount of detail, at least not the same detail as Marx, and it's spread out over his writings (Evola, btw, did not assert that the French Revolution was the "cause", only the first and most evident effect of deeper causes). In terms of specific books for the first two, The Genealogy of Morals, Beyond Good and Evil, and Twilight of the Idols (at least). Note that the meaning of the historical destruction of monarchy cannot be viewed through a lens that is not trans-ethical, hence the need/relevance of Nietzsche. For Marx, it's simply Das Kapital, but mainly the chapters dealing with the historical emergence of modern capitalism, which is directly tied to the downfall of effective monarchy (even if constitutional monarchy remains).
>books that don't just try and state the case for Monarchy but theorize its revival would be of interest as well
That would be Evola again. Men Among the Ruins to start with, then Revolt and Pagan Imperialism (the latter is more of an artistic/polemical work than anything, whereas the others are more technical).

>>17550639

Is there a chart of high-testosterone literature? Something like a /lit/ equivalent of pic-related.

>>17549738
No, that's a separate chart for a separate board.

>>17550863
Where? There's no /monarchia/ on 8kun.

>>17549085
Looks like Aquinas answers this in Summa Theologica. He suggests a mix of all 3, like how Moses ruled the Jews along with 72 electable elders.
>Accordingly, the best form of government is in a state or kingdom, where one is given the power to preside over all; while under him are others having governing powers: and yet a government of this kind is shared by all, both because all are eligible to govern, and because the rules are chosen by all. For this is the best form of polity, being partly kingdom, since there is one at the head of all; partly aristocracy, in so far as a number ofpersonsare set in authority; partly democracy, i.e. government by the people, in so far as the rulers can be chosen from the people, and the people have the right to choose their rulers. >Such was the form of government established by the Divine Law. ForMosesand his successors governed the people in such a way that each of them was ruler over all; so that there was a kind of kingdom. Moreover, seventy-two men were chosen, who were elders invirtue: for it is written (Deuteronomy 1:15): "I took out of your tribes wise and honorable, and appointed them rulers": so that there was an element of aristocracy. But it was a democratical government in so far as the rulers were chosen from all the people; for it is written (Exodus 18:21): "Provide out of all the people wise [Vulgate: 'able'] men," etc.; and, again, in so far as they were chosen by the people; wherefore it is written (Deuteronomy 1:13): "Let me have from among you wise [Vulgate: 'able'] men," etc. Consequently it is evident that the ordering of the rulers was well provided for by theLaw.
https://www.newadvent.org/summa/2105.htm#article1

>>17549127
constitutional monarchy?

>>17551181
wow litteraly brainlet the chart.

>>17549019
Every single meme monarchist is pic related

>>17549019
>Modern Monarchism
>Anime

yep checks out

>>17551277
You just don’t fucking get it man.

>>17551316
>napoleon
>not a subversive traitor who should've been guillotined

anyone got a good list for central banking, history of money, coinage, usury etc?

>>17551507
You have outgrown this board, you are ready for pol, welcome anon.

is there anything on daoism?

>>17549620
Agree

anyone got the chart called "critiques of jews and jewry in gentile societies"? Thanks

>>17549036
ok so give us good orthodox stuff for the monarchist chart and we will think about including it.
I'm sure there's good russian political literature about the role of the tzar and so on.

>>17549085
basically it comes down to having a good system of circulation of the elites.
Restrictive but not too restrictive so that both the natural aristocracy that will arise and the bourgeoise can identify with the leader and accept him as such.

>>17549125
nobody gives a fuck about the donation of Constantine, it was a failed attempt to make sure that the papacy wasn't under any one kings's influence so that it could be an unifying force for the whole west.
French autism, as usual, ruined that for everyone else and Philip the fair both fucked the templars and the papacy thus paving the way to the reform and the 30 years wars.
Controlling fucking Latium directly litteraly never was the "fundation of the Catholic church's power"
>WhErE WaS SaCrEd HeAaArt
you talk like an autist protestant.
Where were the Old Believers in 200 aD?

>>17549141
that exactly your same claims except to us your baptisms and your communion are valid, you instead are so autistic you can't conceive of calling an oecumenical council to solve a matter of ordinance, lol.

>>17551325
kek

>>17551333
t b h

>>17551333
triple of truth
empire is not monarchy but a kind of dictatorship brought by direct military power.
Like all dictatorships it lacks the legitimacy of monarchy and it's inherently instable. At any point another military leader can decide to try and usurp power.
That is an important lesson to learn from Roman history.

>>17551316
>>17551333
>>17551873
>Why yes, I do believe that your cargo shorts and Sabaton meme is rather humorous but is ultimately a straw man.
>Why yes, I do also believe that Hereditary Monarchy is a fine system of government
>Why yes, I am 100% serious and have not obtained my opinion through time spent on the chans.

>>17549439
Thanks, anon. This is exactly what I needed, especially after Master & Commander.

>>17549776
too much theory for you marxie boy

>>17549019
>a million books
>0 organization
>no chronology
Why is this chart so bad? It had potential. Find categories, find a better layout, use some chronology, do something like the /lit/ official Greek chart

>>17549825
>Rawls
Stopped reading there

>>17550418
anyone know what to read if my almost exclusive interest is in the history of the ouroboros?

>>17549473
Read Tocqueville’s book on the French Revolution. It’s about how monarchy fell due to the centralization of the state, which weakened the power of the local nobility. Once the local nobility lost their duties of governance, their privileges became absurd. And as the government centralized and high offices became available to the middle class, the prerogative of birth became absurd too. It’s not just muh storming of the Bastaille.

>>17550629
any interesting things around the time of the GPCR?

>>17549738
>>17549019
>no books on mesoamerican kingship

baka

>>17550868
https://archived.moe/his/thread/9734095/#9735014

>>17551856
Do we need to glass France to make Europe great again

>>17549439
dick sand sounds like an unpleasant experience

>>17549461
looks like 90% of thast is un obtainable or would be incredibly rare and expensive.

>>17554034
so? stop being poor?

>>17549019
>Maquiavel's The Prince on the list
>no Anti-Maquiavel by an actual king (Frederick the Great)

>>17549019
Any charts for hinduism?

>>17549450
It's missing some other good works, like Roberto Arlt's El juguete rabioso, but it's a good chart

>>17549825
Trash: the Chart

>>17549450
this a good chart, a very good chart but it needs confederacy of dunces for the modern section

Is there an Evola chart?

>>17549825
Based chart
I was looking for something like this.

>>17553106
>>17549738
>>17549019
Also on a non shistposting note, if anybody else here is well read/.informed on Mesoamerica and wants to help me make a Mesoamerican chart, let me know, my throwaway is saintseiyasource@gmail.com , if the thread 404's (mention wanting to help with the chart in the email)

Here is what I have so far, minus me having like 7-9 books and over a dozen in mind for the Oaxaca and Aztec sections also (but more input there would be nice too)

>>17555326
>saint seiya
Confirmed for a tacobender

>>17555400
Actually, no, murican with no latino/indigenous/spanish ancestry

>>17550350
Holy Kek

>>17549525
thanks

>>17550485
kino list

>>17549085
Xenophon - Hieron or The Tyrant
Leo Strauss - On Tyranny
Alexander Kojeve - Tyranny and Wisdom

>>17556047

Is there a “get your shit together” chart? Not necessarily self help books, just anything that’ll help you in life or to get out of depression

>>17556146
myth of sisyphus

Is there an existentialism chart?

>>17553739
no we need to balkanize it as Germany was balkanuzed in the HRE.
In fact we need to balkanize fucking Europe.

any one got a chart for best korea

>>17556146

>>17556222

>>17556146
.

>>17556244
no i don't want dumb forefingers opinions i want north korea /lit/

>>17556270
I wish I had that list.

>>17556236
>>17556263
holy shit these are great, thanks anons

>>17556244
>guide to north korea
>mostly worthless foreign “literature” written with the sole purpose of manufacturing consent for war/sanctions against a peaceful socialist country

LOL

>>17550350
nice.

>>17556270
https://www.north-korea-books.com/North_Korea_books/Kim_Jong_Un

>>17556270
>>17556277
>>17556322
>>17556332
https://lithub.com/the-first-state-approved-north-korean-novel-in-english/

This and Juche/marxist theory are the only lit you’ll get out of the DPRK if you live in the empire

>>17556341
https://www.amazon.com/Rewriting-Revolution-Sexuality-Memory-Fiction/dp/0824872630/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=paek+namnyong&qid=1613433713&sprefix=paek+nam&sr=8-2

>>17556310
You're welcome mate. Good Luck!

>>17555326

>>17551277
Imagine being this retarded

Any charts for anarchism/anarcho-communism?

>>17556774
Wouldn't that imply an authoritative source? Not very ethical of you

>>17550661
Based dfw collector

Does anyone have a daoism chart?

bump

>>17549473
Read Weber's writings on traditional vs rational legitimacy

>>17556774

>>17556780
kek

>>17556912
Thank you very much!

>>17556236
>>17556263
I'm guessing these include stuff like how to learn how to study and have the willpower to focus and dedicate time into things right? At least it seems that way to me. Nonetheless thank you for your help, I'm not the guy who asked, that's >>17556310 of course, but I'm certainly one that needs this. Thanks again anons

>>17557222
>>17556146

>>17556146
>>17557222
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>>17549019
Amy Books or Charts that make me feel apu sitting quietly on an autumn weekend evening with a cup of coffee
Life's going too hard frens, I just want to feel comfy and at peace. Books that help me escape :<

>>17557321

>>17550701
I miss /fitlit/

>>17554346
Thanks I like this one

Anyone have the chart of Marquis de Sade?

>>17549098
How does that work?

>>17559122

>>17559173
danke

Any samurai charts?

>>17551821
kek good chart

>>17549450
Gotta through milargo beanfield war on there

>>17549019

>>17559256
second

>>17549488
The only way I see it being revived is for it to organically develop again from a de facto monarchal system in the same way the Roman Republic transitioned to the Principate and later the Dominate

And of course -- you have a hand of restorationist movements that might quietly implement a constitutional monarchy like Georgia

Anyway, the big thing blocking it currently is probably the United States of America; Once it goes away in one form or the other things will open up ideologically again.

>>17552569
>which weakened the power of the local nobility. Once the local nobility lost
This is the big one; I do not believe Absolute Monarchies are sustainable, whereas Despotic Monarchies can continue indefinitely until outside forces exert enough pressure on them.

>>17558328
>>17550701
beta men love to dream about power trips and completing for sluts, so anything james bond, Tom Clancy, jack reacher and so on.

>>17551316
>C-
kek'ed

>>17550447
>>17550629
中国歴史助かる

i don't expect this to exist, but does anyone have a post-colonial chart?