/lit/ - Literature

Time to stat this session. Late night writing is the best.

booba

Big ol', good ol', massive, succulent, exquisite and full of milk: BIG anime titties.

If only Western civilization was rooted in breeding and praising human cows like the Hindus do with real cows. Imagine how the end result must be after two thousands years when Jesus Christ declared that we must protect and love TENDERLY (i.e. breed them) human cows.
Hell, I bet we would have all become ubermensch after drinking human cow milk instead of real cows! After all, you can't beat the real thing, right?

>want to write, have ideas and energy
>have storylines plotted out
>detailed outlines
>chapters with what happens and dialogue
>Can't find the words nor how to begin the story.
Just kill me. It will spare me from this suffering.

>>17543062
that's ok. you can take your time and think about a good beginning. you can always work on it tomorrow.

Anyone ever copyright their work?

>>17543062
It was a dark and stormy night

What are some pathos-y items to be at the bottom of a fountain that has had the water taken out of it?

What is a good way to begin a visual novel?

>>17543170
Infant-sized bones

>>17543192
MC gets woken up by the girl next door but he'd rather go back to sleep.

>>17543091
I don't remember giving permission for you to read my story.

>>17543204
That won't work, in my VN the MC is the one who wakes up the girl next door

>>17543203
I was going to say kitten bones.

>>17543203
It's in a school so not going quite that extreme. Thinking a kid's toy of some sort though

>>17543226
Girls get pregnant in school.

>>17543216
Have him bring her breakfast. Bacon, toast, coffee, the whole thing. Then when she wakes up the MC eats it instead.

>>17543170
Re this, cheers lads, gone with this as a placeholder
>It was covered with coins of all denominations, and years’ worth of other detritus, some of it more explicable than others – a dropped watch, a ring, a wishbone, a tiny pink plastic shoe that looked like it had fallen from the foot of some small child’s doll.

>>17543170
>>17543226
>>17543269
So you already knew what to place and decided to waste three posts here for no other reason because you could.

>>17543282
I took the bone and something to do with a kid from here

Another day, another K. Four more paragraphs until I start researching to write the third and final draft before editing.

Keep writing /wg/.

i've been making some progress on my short story collection bros :) have written 4 out of who-the-fuck-knows-how-many so far, now i've got to work on the stonehenge one and Friendship is the Thing with Brown Fur (a play on Grief is the Thing with Feathers by Max Porter, which itself is a play on an Emily Dickinson line...), about a kid who finds out they can talk to bears after they hear one talking to itself. plus i've completed the first draft of the first short story i ever started writing years ago, and i've adapted it into a screenplay in case i need to use it for my screenwriting modules next year.

life's looking pretty peachy anons, how are yall doing?

Tips on writing a schizophrenic character? As much as I like calling people on 4chan schizos I frankly do not know anything about them beyond watching the occasional clip of them.

>>17543389
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL0_7YOZhfM
it's something like this

>>17543389
My brother is a paranoid schizophrenic. There is absolutely nothing interesting about the illness. Write about something worthwhile instead.

>>17543389
Think about how when you think a thought that's ridiculous like "wouldn't it be weird of others could hear my thoughts" or "hey it looked like there was a monster in the corner of my eye" or even just thinking about fantastical scenarios, your mind automatically knows that these thoughts don't line up with reality and doesn't take them seriously. Take that ability to filter "nonsensical" thoughts away from a person and you're on your way to portraying what schizophrenia is.

>>17543423
Sorry about your brother, but just because something is awful doesn't mean it can't be interesting. Any mental state can be interesting to explore depending on the execution.

>>17543441
I didn't say it's awful. I said it's not interesting. It's boring and tiresome. Movies have convinced you mental illness leads to some kind of trippy altered states but that's not true, it's just a pain in the ass. Since you clearly don't know anything about it I doubt you have any way of exploring it or have anything to say about it, so why specifically do you want to write about a schizophrenic?

>>17543423
>There is absolutely nothing interesting about the illness

They just made an award-winning movie about it, totally not interesting at all.

>>17543482
Well it isn't. When you hear for the 300th time about how the sound ambulances make is a conspiracy to cause a person to have a heart-attack because he refuses to turn into a homosexual you stop finding it particularly interesting.

>>17543478
I'm not that anon. I'm not schizophrenic but I've experienced some other mental issues, don't really want to get into it. It's not necessarily "interesting" by itself but real life isn't really interesting either, it's what you do with it in a story that makes it interesting or not. Dealing with a mentally ill person and experiencing mental illness are also two very different things, though neither are very romantic or exciting.

>>17543488
That's pretty interesting

>>17543082
You have the rights of anything you make, from the moment you your the words. What you can get, which is really simple, is a creative commons licence which explicits how others can use your media.

>>17542832
so true

>>17543068
not sure if this is reverse psychology designed to incite guilt
what word would be better for 'incite' in that sentence?

>>17543551
You can think of the word tomorrow anon. You deserve a break, you've been working hard.

>>17543551
Pick the one you like

>>17543551
cause
induce
produce

>>17543062
what is the story about

>>17543062
Cop out excuse. Dont treat your first draft as your final and just write.

>>17543294
>>17543581
>been confusing drafts with edits all this time
fug. what do you mean by xth draft? is it a rewrite?

>>17543587
Yes. Each draft is starting from scratch, completely. Every line written fresh. You need to go through at least three before your book is any good.

>>17543611
thanks

>>17543612
Anon no I was just making shit up

>>17543587
Before computers, we had paper and ink/pencil. You can only cross out/erase words so many times on paper. So people will rewrite the entire thing and call the old piece a draft.

>45 posts
>7 or so only pertain to actually writing
>Rest is just pointless drivel
Don’t even bother replying, I don’t want you fucks even wasting even more posts in your useless justifications.

>>17543634
>only 7
Which posts?

>>17543618
oh... what is it then? because this is how i usually do it. short stories by the way
>write first draft
>first revision: go over the big picture / story proper and major errors
>let it sit
>next revision: pore over small details like sentence lengths and repetitions
>let it sit
>repeat

>>17543629
thanks

How do I write

>>17543634
>Don’t even bother replying
i won't allow you to tell me what i can and can't do

>>17543618
that's good advice though

>>17543646
On computers a draft is more or less when you make a new file for your revision. You can completely rewrite or just partially, and you don't technically need to have a solid system of "drafts" at all. Just edit however works best for you

>>17543648
drugs

>>17543648
Basically, you drink a lot of coffee or tea and smoke

>>17543656
cheers

>>17543656
For me it's
>write things out in one file
>once I have a "complete" chapter I make a new file for that chapter and do the editing in that file
>at the end I will make a new file and copypaste all the edited individual chapters into it
This is the gameplan anyway.

>>17543679
that's a good idea

I'm taking a stab at writing some poetry, what do you think of this?

My baby don't mess around
Because she loves me so
This I know for sure
But does she really want to
But can't stand to see me walk out the door
Don't try to fight the feeling
Because the thought alone is killing me right now
Thank God for Mom and Dad
For sticking to together
Like we don't know how

>>17543712
How about you go to the poetry thread instead of here? And while you’re at it, delete your post so it won’t clutter the thread with even more useless posts.

>>17491299

>>17543723
how do i delete a post

>>17543723
This is the writing thread, anon. Writing poetry is writing.

>>17543712
Pop song lyrics that you didn't write aren't poetry

Editing is when you work through a document and make changes
A draft is when a government enlists its young men to go to war without their volunteering

>>17543744
I disagree

https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/37998/wish-mountain

Chapter Five is out. Also happens to be the chapter the cover I made is based off.

>>17543712
Reads like an AI obsessed with the letter B synthesised Beatles, Beach boys, beastie boys and Blink 182

>>17543819
It's just the hey ya song

>>17543833
>hey ya
Is that a JoJo reference?

>A drank the water from the river
>nothing happened to him hours later
>A asked B if he should boil the water from the river first before drinking
>B answered the water was clean
Is the first example 'show, don't tell' while the second one is clearly 'tell, no show'?

>>17543813
It’s incredibly depressing to know that in just 65 posts, this is the eight post that actually is about writing while the rest are being wasted on shit that anons don’t taken seriously or worse, questions that can be search on google or any other search engine.

>>17543874
This is 4chan don't think about it too much.

>>17543874
>actually about writing
>online selfpub

>>17543874
None of your posts are about writing, how are you helping? Are you the guy who got assmad about the anime girl OPs too? I think you might be.

>>17543851
No it's a shitty negro song from the 2000s.
Enjoy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWgvGjAhvIw

>>17543891
Think it's the guy who was whinging about me not having baby bones in my fountain in the middle of a public school too lel

The quality of wg has dropped significantly. I blame OP and his boring waifu

>>17543899
It's a great idea though, in the distant past a girl got raped and impregnated, told no one, then when the baby was born she drowned it in the school well.

>>17543902
I blame you

>>17543908
schools have wells?

How long does a character need to live in your head before you really get them?
I've got a new major character that I came up with last week and I've been putting them through scenarios and mini-plots to see how I handle them, I'm just kind of waiting to see when their whole character clicks.

>>17543931
I meant fountain, not well

>>17543941
i'm sure someone would notice the bloated and putrid body before letting it decompose to bones

>>17543937
It's not about how long they live there but how much rent you charge them

>>17543941
Fountains are very public though, it's more likely she'd just down it in the toilet, leave it at someone's doorstep or the fire station

>>17543952
>>17543959
That's the exciting part

>>17543908
I'm glad whoever it was suggested bones because they're small, the right colour that they wouldn't have been seen to be removed and wouldn't rot or anything. Obviously I didn't describe the tone/context of what I'm writing so anons were going to give me suggestions that didn't quite fit, neat idea but it's not that type of story

>>17543964
How is that exciting
> Drown baby in fountain
> Leave
> 1 hour later, cops remove baby

The end

I'm writing the worst chapter of my draft so far and it actually feels good. I've always had a problem with getting stuck with bad chapters and bashing my head against the wall rewriting for weeks but I've developed enough as a writer that I know what's wrong with this one and I'm content to move on to the next chapter and sort it in the next draft.

I’m working on two novels right now and I’m at the point where I really just need to focus on one if I want to finish or if I want either to be good. One’s a pretty niche romance thing and the other has a bit more mass appeal as a fairly standard pirate fantasy book.

I’m having a bit more fun with the romance, but I’m worried I’m the only one it will appeal to and I’m a bit worried that some sites might not even allow it. Should I focus on this anyway and worry about the rest later or start with something more main stream?

>>17543990
Who doesn't like a good romance?

>>17543990
>pirate fantasy book
Don't write that, I'm writing that one day

>>17543865
>Is the first example 'show, don't tell' while the second one is clearly 'tell, no show'?
What the fuck does that even mean anymore? I've completely lost track of what this "tell" and "show" bullshit is supposed to mean, starting to thing it's pseud cope. In case B you would literally be showing two characters discussing the qualities of river water. It's not like you're going on an authorial monologue about all the different properties of river water and if and when it can be unhealthy to drink it etc.

>>17543902
i blame you for not lurking until bump limit and quickly making a new thread with a non anime OP picture. be the change you want to see.

>I have notes folders on my phone that I've had for nearly ten years
>It'll be decades before I can possibly get them written and get rid of them
Fuck's sake, the writing Jew has got me hook line and sinker

>>17543990
>I’m having a bit more fun with the romance, but I’m worried I’m the only one it will appeal to
Tell us all about your degenerate fetish.
I want to see your despondence.
I want to hate you.

>>17544049
Jesus, don’t encourage that pretentious faggot and just yet ignore him.

>>17543937
>>17543886
Online self pub is writing though

>>17544018
I mean, in the first one A drank the water and nothing happened to him, therefore the water was clean and safe to drink, but there was no talk about it. I thought it would be 'show, don't tell'. Meanwhile in the second example B had to tell A that the water was clean to drink, so it's more 'tell' and less 'show'.

>>17544094
I disagree

>>17544100
Telling is not a character telling something retard. In second one you're showing that B is knowledgeable about fucking water and diseases. It would be telling if you, the narrator, told us that B was knowledgeable about that sort of thing instead of showing it by practical example.

>>17544119
*not a character telling another character something

>>17543865
In the first one I don't even have a reason to think about the water. I might think A is retarded for drinking it without thinking about it depending on the context

>>17543865
How about
>A drank the water from the river
>nothing happened to him hours later
>B asked A if he should boil the water from the river first before drinking
>A answered the water was clean
whoa dude suddenly there's logical continuity going on!!

>>17544184
Then A was wrong and they both get dysentery the next day

>>17544199
Comedy gold

>>17544199
>>17544202
A and B both drink the river dry then see there's a baby's bones at the bottom of it

>>17544230
A baby kitten's bones

>>17543082
Copyrights are automatic, anon.

I tried progressing my novel for the first time in awhile again today, any thoughts or crits?

Sunset found her squatting in the grass, groaning. Every stool was looser than the one before, and smelled fouler. By the time the moon came up she was shitting brown water. The more she drank, the more she shat, but the more she shat, the thirstier she grew, and her thirst sent her crawling to the stream to suck up more water. When she closed her eyes at last, she did not know whether she would be strong enough to open them again.

>>17544100
>I mean, in the first one A drank the water and nothing happened to him, therefore the water was clean and safe to drink, but there was no talk about it.
Retarded if there's no point to mentioning the water at all, perfectly fine to do if you're dealing with Chekov's water or are writing some sort of more survivalist story or something like that.
>Meanwhile in the second example B had to tell A that the water was clean to drink, so it's more 'tell' and less 'show'.
Not really.
>>17544199
based lmao

>>17544276
WHERE'S THE NEXT ASOIAF BOOK, MARTIN?

>>17544101
Let's agree to disagree then

>>17544276
Not too bad, I would personally try to incorporate more allusions to American football, my blogger friends and the struggle of the human heart against itself though.

>>17544064
I have plenty of them. But my book is about alien romance.

>>17544276
Was she drinking from the same river as A and B?

>>17544411
kek

>>17544184
It is two fucking examples and not a chronological order of actions.
Fuck you /lit/ I shouldn't ask for advice in the first place.

>>17544501
Too literate to be OP

Should I write a love story about a man and his tulpa just so I can use the title “mea tulpa?”

>>17544724
I'll allow it.

Chapter 7 released. Still on the daily schedule.
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/40361/erased

Are pastiches a thing in todays world?
Want to tell a story that I believe would fit very well with a 20th-century writers style, but was wondering if there were any roadblocks in the way
Can it still be commercialized?

okay /wg/ when you're done fucking around please be so kind as to rate my scribbles, thanks

The calendars were long obsolete and snow hadn’t stopped falling. I watched it form a tiny valley in the window grilles until the sun would set in it. But I couldn't see the sky anymore since the food started replenishing itself. Only white light and white darkness, and it waiting for me somewhere out there. I shouldn’t have taken the shot.

I brought three bullets and the dog to the woods that day. Prone on the snow, I spotted stag horns hiding behind tall grass. I held my breath and slowly lined the rifle. Aimed for a spot in the grass under those horns. Suddenly the dog barked and the muzzle cracked. The horns dashed away. I stood up and shot again but it was gone. There, I found a trail of blood and hoofprints running into the deep woods. But they weren't all hooves. Hands, then hooves, then hands, printed on the snow. I ran towards the cabin and locked the door. Since then the snow hadn’t stopped falling.

The dog was restless. It barked all night from white darkness to white light, sometimes at the window, others at the door. I was getting sick of it. One night I put it outside. The dog barked and scratched at the door until I heard a shot crack from the direction of the woods, echo around the cabin, and it was quiet. I waited for daylight to open the door and found scratch marks on it. No other trace of the dog. The last bullet was still with me.

The first night since then was quiet at first. But then the knocking started. First on the window, rapidly when I was on the verge of sleep. I looked outside. Nothing. I closed my eyes and the tapping returned. Every night it got worse. Louder, longer, more demanding. It started knocking at the door. I didn’t answer. Then it spoke. “Open up, son,” it said in my dead father’s voice, “me and Fido are freezing out here.” I saw the shadow of two feet standing under the door. I didn’t answer. It started banging. Twisting the knob. Then the laughter. I heard my dead father laugh behind the quaking door, the banging door, the laugh when I told him I wanted to be a hunter. I heard it laugh behind me, outside the window, and I saw stag horns looming in the white darkness.

When I ate all the bread, I found more the next morning. When I drank all the water, it filled up by daybreak. But not the calendars. Those were long obsolete and it never gave me a new one. Not the firewood either. Only food and drink, enough to keep me alive until night.

I watched the snow form a tiny valley in the grilles, letting my last bullet thaw in my palm, waiting for the sun to set.

>>17544788
Please, PLEASE fix your blurb. This is how yours sounds:

>His first family dead. His second family rejects him. Then comes a letter. Then a giant to whisk him away. A chance to discover the magic inside of him. For young Harry, this is the opportunity of a lifetime. But all is not as it seems, when the past returns to challenge him...

Forgive the example I used. But it says nothing. Just sum up the beginning of your plot. Nobody is going to care to read something they know nothing about.

>>17544983
Fair enough, will do.

Am I ngmi bros?

I spent my Friday night on Mimas while she parties with her new boyfriend

I am on mimas, one of Saturn’s dozens of moons. I can tell by the massive Herschel crater which gives the moon a “death star” appearance. It is one of the smaller moons of our solar system, it could fit snugly into one of our moon’s small craters. Mimas is made of water-ice making it highly interesting to scientists as one of the potential back-ups for humans after we finish the murder of our planet and need more living space. I stand on the edge of the Herschel crater. I wear no space suit, just some average outfit. I am not suffocating or freezing. I am fine. The majestic beauty of Saturn fills the sky of this moon. It’s rings are so close that I reach out in a fruitless attempt to touch them. Stars were splattered across the sky like some pointilist Pollock. Mimas completes a full orbit of the gas giant every 22.6 hours. And while this is much faster than the speed at which Earth turns about the Sun (31.04x faster to be precise), I did not feel sick. Taking a seat on the edge of the crater, I gaze transfixed at the gas giant. I count the rotations as happened: 1, 2, 3… 10… 100… I eventually lost count but I must’ve been there at least 10,000 years frozen in awe. I then spent time adoring the light blue of Uranus and studying the layers of Jupiter, having futile staring contests with it’s eye. I explored the Herschel crater and other parts of the moon. I came to know Mimas, Saturn, Uranus, and Jupiter quite well. One would imagine me to have gotten bored during what felt like 10,000 millennium but I never did. I felt more at home, isolated on minute Mimas than I ever felt with 7 billion at “home”. It’s funny, I had to be transported to these cold, deep reaches of space to find a peace within myself, a peace matching the silent serenity of space and one which I never knew I had let alone could attain. I felt my time here would soon come to an end so I said my goodbyes to the planets and the friendly Mimas which let me ride upon it like a faithful steed. In these closing millenniums, I felt a deep somberness, deeper than space. I watched stars say their goodbyes, some with bangs, some with whimpers. It felt like saying goodbye to old friends although they were surely older than myself. But the somberness wasn’t terrible, it just felt like a part of it all. There was a very nostalgic sense to it and it all made sense. I returned to the spot where I first landed upon Mimas. I sat down in that groove where I first introduced myself to Saturn, where we had a short, silent conversation of 10,000 years. I smiled goodbye to the giant while patting my steed, and for the first time in a billion years, I felt warmth fill me.

>>17545063
If you pissed on her she would have stayed

>>17544074
How am I pretentious for thinking his stale waifu is worth posting every time?
>hey what’s your ideal gf
>uhh big tits and low self-confidence

>>17545104
Sounds good to me desu

>>17545106
but every time?

>>17545111
She's a vtuber. Vtubers are like soul rot. He's infected.

>>17545100
wrong girl. also, no one has said a thing about the writing and this is the second post :(

>>17545063
>>17545123
>also, no one has said a thing about the writing and this is the second post :(
Sometimes we say it best when we say nothing at all, Anon. If I had to force myself to care about this, I'd say that you've mistaken detail for description and have somehow written a text that is far too technical without being the slightest bit informational. Occasionally you pepper this passage with flowery language which you just straight-up stole from other authors.
Kind of like:
>We sped around the corner at 40 mph, which was twice as fast as the recommended speed limit. To my surprise, rather than tapping the brake, our driver depressed the clutch pedal, moved the gearshift from 4th into 5th, and applied further pressure to the accelerator, resulting in an increase of speed by 10 mph. My heart rate increased because I was afraid that we might get into an accident, and all of the speed and force might cause injury to my body, or possibly result in the termination of vital life functions. However, I had no choice of whether to continue riding, because the vehicle was traveling too fast for me to safely exit. "Once more into the breech, we band of brothers," I thought. The road got straight again and we kept driving.
Not the most appropriate tone for the feeling I'm trying to convey here, is it?

>>17545063
First thing is that you need to work on your tenses and grammar. I almost didn't even read the past sentence with the mixing of past and present. Past that, like the other anon said, way, way too many details that simply aren't interesting and don't seem to matter.

>>17544956
Hey anon, I’m joining from the ffa thread. It’s a really interesting story, but I kept tripping up on my first read through...it only made sense on the second pass.

>I watched it form a tiny valley in the window grilles until the sun would set in it.
On first read, wasn’t sure if ‘it’ was the calendar, the snow, or some new thing. Then when the sentence ends, ‘it’ is the valley. Could say “calendars long obsolete. Watched as falling snow formed valleys (note the plural)...” would also like to know if grilles are vertical bars, or a diamond grid.

>couldn't see ... since the food started replenishing
Is a stack of sandwiches blocking the window?
>and it waiting for me somewhere out there
Another ‘it’, suggest either ‘him’ or ‘the beast’ etc. ‘somewhere out there’ = three words not telling me anything. Could make it ‘Beyond the glass’ etc or just remove.

>I brought three bullets and the dog to the woods that day.
Couldn’t figure out until later that this was a flashback and not the next day or the prior AM.
Who calls their own dog ‘the dog’?

>Hands, then hooves, then hands, printed on the snow.
THIS is where the story hooked me. Draw it out, did they change, were there hoof prints with just one finger or two, were the rear prints feet?

>I ran towards the cabin ...
I thought he was giving chase, at what point was he now running away? Describe the dawning fear.

>It barked all night from white darkness to white light
already used this earlier, and we know what ‘all night’ is.

>One night I put it outside.
Wait, how much time has passed here? How long has this dog been inside?

>I heard a shot crack...I waited for daylight to open the door and found scratch marks on it. No other trace of the dog.
Are woods near or far? ‘The direction of’ implies the cabin isn’t surrounded by woods.
He didn’t check for the dog right then? Or listen for it at the door?
If no trace, describe lack of prints/blood, only fresh laid snow.

>The last bullet was still with me.
He only brought 3 hunting, didn’t know that was all the hunter had.

>The first night since then...Every night it got worse.
Your treating time too cheaply, what happens in the days? Is he going mad by now? Tbh, the strongest parts of the story still work fine if this all happens over a 2 night hunting trip.

>“Open up, son,” it said in my dead father’s voice, “me and Fido are freezing out here.”
Draw out the recognition of his fathers voice, if you want it to have significance. Also, is Fido the dog’s name?

> I saw the shadow of two feet standing under the door.
Love this image, two dark bands. what’s the light source?

> the laugh when I told him I wanted to be a hunter.
As a boy, I assume

>Magic food
Detracts from the real story, just make it a 2 night ordeal.

>I watched the snow form...
I like the full circle. Maybe have him play with his last three rounds at the start

Keep it up!

>>17544956
I liked your largest paragraph and the way you wrote for tension. The structure was more confusing for me. Although that must have been intentional, I can not say I liked it too much. Your writing also has some inefficiencies that you can easily fix. Take for example this:
>until the sun would set in it.
You can just say until sunset, I think.
>>17545063
>which gives the moon a “death star” appearance
Why, oh why would you write this? Does referencing star wars enrich your writing?
Why not instead write something along these lines:
>"I was on Mimas, a Saturn moon, I could tell; its massive crater is emblematic, after all."
> It is one of the smaller moons of our solar system, it could fit snugly into one of our moon’s small craters. Mimas is made of water-ice making it highly interesting to scientists as one of the potential back-ups for humans after we finish the murder of our planet and need more living space.
Nvm you are this kind of guy. I am writing as I read, so keep that in mind.
I feel like you are trying to go for some form of "stylised autism" where the scientist is some sort of nerd obsessed with astronomy and his craft as a way of coping with being a loser and a loner, but you need to either make it more autistic and robotic or more human and structured in order to be compelling. A lot of the scientific data you've pasted in your writing seems crammed in and pointless, since its purpose can't shine through because you have not gone far enough to emphasise the style. Remember, you don't have to limit yourself to narrative, you can convey concepts simply through word choice, phrasing and sentence structure. The concentration and structure of scientific terminology, as well as the way it is expressed (for example short, brisk, factual statements vs long deliberative ones) can have an effect on the image of your character that you are trying to invoke.

>>17544411
heh

>>17544501
I think you misunderstood me, but whatever. Hope your characters enjoy shitting brown water.

>>17543937
I think my writing is very character focused so whenever I think of one I just start writing about them and let the plot follow.
>>17544956
>I watched it form a tiny valley in the window grilles until the sun would set in it
I understand what you're trying to say here, but I would try and re-work this sentence. It sounds clumsy now.
The whole thing should be longer in my opinion. Even if you're trying to keep it simple, offering some more description of where the scenery would be a good idea.
I think your sentences themselves are also a little too short, particularly in the second paragraph.
Interesting idea though anon, I like the story. The last sentence was kino, as well.

>>17543634
lol

>>17545683
>>17545478
>>17545824
I didn't really focus on tense and grammar when writing it nor was I trying to imitate any author. I was kinda going for the 'stylized autist' but I was just tossing some cool, nerdy stuff. I was conscious of some of the remarks made but and am trying to work on them. Overall, thanks for the feedback guys, it means a lot!

Here's a blogpost looking back of my first few months in quarantine, any of you relate?

The sun slathers the horizon in red, it mixes in orange - shyly at first but then brushing away, merging the colors into one - before finishing off the scene with an overpowering yellow. The elaborate quotidien painting signals a start to a new day… for most. For myself however, as well as any other unfortunate soul who happens to share my predicament, it is but the continuation of day. The sun and moon do not dictate the calendars of the melancholic. I wake up to a usual blend, not of coffee, but of disappointment and pain. Of course the two often go hand-in-hand frolicking about in fields of dead flowers. The former sensation slaps you in the face the moment you open your eyes as if saying “How dare you wake up? Why did you fail to die in your sleep?” The pain simply comes with returning to the land of the living - or perhaps this is still the world of sleep, at least, most people seem to be sleepwalking. The pain is dull, like a man treating you as his hammer’s anvil, but his blows do not take much of his strength. Sometimes I will cry at these times but not too often. I then drift through my day like everyone else. I do everything with a bad taste in my mouth while craving the taste of iron in my mouth. My eyes are blank all day. It is said that the eyes are the windows to one’s soul, perhaps the glass of my windows have just been dirtied by all the tears over time. Or perhaps they were just tired of showing the hopelessness in my soul and took the executive, utilitarian decision to become opaque so as not to bring the overall happiness in the world down. I’d come and let out everything I had pent up from the day. On average, I cried for 30 minutes. The rest of the time I had at home would have nothing memorable to them, I just drifted through them like the time I spent outside of the house. I finish off the day by crying myself to sleep. This was more or less how my days were spent. The days would somehow turn into weeks - I no longer knew how it was possible, I seemed to have forgotten how this worked - allowing me to cry and mope around the house for two extra days. In turn, the weeks quickly turned into months. Thinking of that time, a Cioran quote comes to mind “Tears do not burn except in solitude”.

>tfw noob at writing, only picking it up as a past time
>tfw come to the realization that most of your readers are/will be complete retards, even if you explicitly spell things out on the page for them.
How do you make your readers feel like they're high IQ chads when you are introducing them to a new world?

>>17547032
pick up a thesaurus

>>17547032
If you hope to make writing pay bills, you learn to write for people you detest

But you write as a past time. Be based. Write only for the readers you respect, let the others eat shit.

Now, if you can’t manage to do that...you can’t blame the readers. Improve.

>>17547032
In vidya terms, provide multiple routes to the same locations.
If you only have a single critical path to figure something out, if your readers miss it, they're going to struggle when it actually happens. Provide multiple paths of deduction for something to happen and more people will feel like they're in on it when it actually happens.

>>17547032
Dumbass reader here. A big thing for me is don't overly describe stuff. A paragraph or two will do for any setting or person.
Also, don't use big words just to use them. I don't really care about that stuff and if I ever need to consult a dictionary I get upset.
Lastly, do obvious foreshadowing but also less obvious foreshadowing.
Touch on the less obvious stuff later so I can be like"ooooh yeah" or something. That always feels nice.

>>17547084
Name one writer who wrote what he enjoyed and made money because he didn't give a shit about what people thought

>>17547217
Reading comprehension is slipping...>>17547032 didn't say anything about trying to make $$, but did describe his readers as 'complete retards'.

If he's just writing for himself, then >>17547084 asks why he's still trying to write for readers he doesn't respect.

>>17547368
I knew what OP and the other guy said.
I was just simply going off topic by asking what writers made money by doing what they enjoyed the most, I wasn't trying to make a point.

>>17542781
anon stop distracting me

>>17542781
Thanks for your cute pictures OP!

>>17548112
>cute
That girl's legs are warped and completely fucked beyond belief. She wouldn't even be able to walk on those tiny calves. She'd be bound to a wheelchair.

>>17548151
>She'd be bound to a wheelchair
im so fucking hard right now

>>17548151
Go read your YA, jealous roastie.

Decided I wanted to start writing a book.
Not really a good reason for it I suppose, I'm just so tired of picking up books with the desire to read something and it always just going in the wrong directions.
But damn I suck at writing, even trying to get started is hard, much less making it read well.

Wish I could just throw my desires into a mix and have a book pop out.

>Writing first book
>Already want to write the sequel
My brain has too many ideas. Why must writing be so slow?

>>17546660
trying too hard senpai

>>17549120
Just pen your ideas (or concepts) down so that you don't forget them. I personally gave ideas penned down for like 5 or 6 books and also a fanfic. Even though I haven't written these books down, I've penned down all of my ideas so that I'll never forget them, so I suggest you do the same

Are there any writing programs with tabs other than notepad++. That's a pain to actually write on and is clearly designed for coding.

>>17549388
Read the OP.

>>17549497
Adding to what this anon said, I have a friendly reminder for you: good writers are good readers.

>>17549974
im a good reader it's just hard to find books worth reading in my genre

>>17549388
join the open office chad gang

>senior level creative writing class in college
>most people in my class still write like they're writing essays or write at an absurdly low level like elementary
holy fuck
Is the obsession over academic/business writing responsible for this?

Been writing since 2018. Something inside me clicked and I feel worse off for not writing. Worked with several artists for illustrations (pic related). I feel I'm an OK writer, definitely cutting my teeth with a massive post Armageddon series with sci-fi and fantasy, magic and science, angels and demons. 2 books in and a 3rd on the way. Rewrites I hate the most.

>>17550051
There's practically zero creative writing after second grade from what I remember.

Give me ideas for great classic plots I can stealthily adapt into a scifi setting.

Hard Mode: No Shakespeare
Harder Mode: No Greek drama

>>17550211
>Sherlock Holmes
>But in spaaaace

>>17550211
age of sail in space, french revolution in space, space napoleon

>>17550211
Man turns into bug. Family gets irritated.

>>17550243
>french revolution in space
That's just Gundam

>>17550133
>a massive post Armageddon series with sci-fi and fantasy, magic and science, angels and demons. 2 books in and a 3rd on the way.
I'm in the marketing phase of writing something more grounded, but it's harder than the writing.

>>17547171
>and if I ever need to consult a dictionary I get upset.
funniest shit i've read all week lmao.

desu my problem is I tell and I don't show.

>>17550459
what do you mean by that? show us

>>17550459
underrated post

>>17542781
This guy >>>/qa/3922270 is trying to get this thread deleted.

>>17542781
Artist?

>>17550511
It's the fucking anime pictures. Someone has to start making the threads with a proper image or make a new one and let this one die.

>>17550548
The next one is going to be Apu if I get the chance.

>>17550548
Why do you keep trying to create this drama?

>reading fiction book
>put it down because I think its poorly written and I can do better
>try to do better
>stop at 5 pages and quit
why do I do this bros?

>>17550511
>/qa/ is trying to get this thread deleted.
I sleep.

>>17550736
Because deep down you know you can't do better. You should read more. And write more.

How many words have you written today?

>>17550776
0 words of fiction, 84 words of schoolwork and untold thousands of words of shitposting on various boards

I'm writing a collection of short stories set in a place similar to Revolutionary War era America, where the gods they worship are living beings existing somewhere in the world. Also, the characters are all anthropomorphic animals because I'm a loser but I can just change it later if it doesn't sit well with me.
I have lots of little details, ideas, and stories in my mind about the world but I don't want to write a meaty novel that people won't finish so I've decided to make a collection of short stories set in the world instead.

>>17542781
How does one communicate an utter transfixation upon their own frustration, aware only of the futility and ouroboric-nature of such a thing but preconsciously? Feedback greatly appreciated!
>Mad is the word, the word that reminds me of 6th grade. I hated that year ... I wish I had know what was going to be going on during my 6th-grade year, the last and worst year of elementary school. Mad is the word that remains in my head about my dreadful year as a 6th grader. My Madness was one that was caused by disapointments that hurt me very much. Dissapointments from my teacher, such as feild trips that were planed, then canncled. My 6th-grade teacher gave me a lot of dissapointments which made me very mad and made me built a state of haterd in my heart, no one ever let me down that hard before and I never hated anyone as much as I did him. Disapointment wasn't the only reason that made me mad in my sixth-grade class, another was getting in trouble at school espeically talking thats what really bugged me was writing sentances, those awful sentance that my teacher made ... me write, hours and hours Id sit and write 50-100-150 sentance day and night I write those dreadful Paragraphs which embarrased me and more inportant it made me ashamed of myself which in turn, deep down in side made me realize that writing sentance wasn't fair it wasn't fair to make me suffer like that, it just wasn't fair to make me sit and wright until my bones aked, until my hand felt every horrid pain it ever had and as I wrote, I got mader and mader until I cried, I cried because I was ashamed I cried because I was discusted, I cried because I was mad, and I cried for myself, kid who kept on having to write those dane sentances. My Angryness from Sixth grade will scar my memory for life and I will be ashamed for my sixth grade year forever

I'm 80 pages done with my non-fiction book

>>17550963
upvote.

>>17550776
I'm about to drop 1k on that ass.

FUCK FUCK FUCK IT'S COLD

my fingers are so cold it's hard to type
my feet are cold
my room is cold

Semi-colons are scary. It's a cocktail of not exactly knowing if you're using it correctly and not wanting to seem pretentious to your friends.

>>17549163
hmm ok thanks Ill try to make it more natural

>>17551144
The world is cold.

>>17551144
my world is cold
my digits are cold
but I click /d/
and my penis is hot

Finished my second draft, now begins the next phase of my process. Feels good anons, I started from 500 words a night to now hopefully being able to do 1.5k a night. Will post an excerpt tomorrow for feedback if anyone cares.

Keep writing /wg/.

I have a beginning, middle, and end but no idea how it all connects. My plot is a fucking mess and I think I have to start over but it feels like I've come too far. God fucking damnit

>>17543865
>>17544018
It's neither because that event sucks and it doesn't matter.

Show don't tell refers to showing aspects of a characters motivation or personality in the writing rather than just telling the reader. Not that you can't just outright state some things if you want too.

>>17545824
>Detracts from the real story, just make it a 2 night ordeal.
what a shame. i wanted to show him wondering which things the monster would replenish for him, and if the bullet is one of it. i'll find a way. thanks a lot anon, you made some great points

>>17545926
>The structure was more confusing for me.
of the entire story (flashback and/or pacing) or only that paragraph? that paragraph was supposed to be slightly paranoid but it needs more work, as it seems
thanks for reading and the pointers

>>17546126
>re-work this sentence. It sounds clumsy now.
i agree. how would you write that? or would you just chuck that out?
>offering some more description of where the scenery would be a good idea.
great idea.
>I think your sentences themselves are also a little too short, particularly in the second paragraph.
i was trying to speed it up in the first half, then make it all spooky in the second half. maybe make the second half drag out?
thanks for the feedback

>>17551727
>what a shame. i wanted to show him wondering which things the monster would replenish for him, and if the bullet is one of it. i'll find a way. thanks a lot anon, you made some great points

You’ve got two stories in here. One where a man hides in terror after accidentally angering a monster. Another where a man is eternally trapped in a cabin.

The first is immediate, you have to explain cause-and-effect. The second doesn’t need a beginning or end.

By mixing the two, esp in such a short story, you start by saying the days are endless...then jump to day 1 and night 1 and night 2 etc.

The first bit of strangeness, when the reader suspends their disbelief, is powerful...I feel it got spent on the calendar and the bread rather than the hoof print reveal.

Try writing the two stories separately, give them both space, maybe they’ll merge together again in a longer format.

Or just ignore this and do w/e you like...I’m just some guy on the internet, you do you, anon.

>>17542781
>it's been almost two years
>Not even 100k words in
Also, I need to rewrite the early chapters, except for the first, maybe.

2 questions writing frens

How the fuck do I master english?

How do I make a story out of a basic idea or a 1 line plot? Sometimes i can think of things to add in middle or the ending but can't really think out a whole story

>>17552090
>master english
A lot of practice, but most of english speakers are not masters either.
As for second, I wrote almsot 100k and plan to write another 50k out of two grievances and one line about two rivals.
>What if one guy worked out of love for his craft, while another treated it as a step in his career.

>>17552129
I am reading fathers and sons at the moment and turgenev has an entire story sketch and character sketch at the back
Do you frens do that too?

>>17552090
Some people are at home laying words on a page, they can start with just the bones of a story and let the process of writing guide them as they add detail and texture.

Doesn’t sound like you’re that kind of person (neither am I most days...)

Others, need to lay everything out in their minds first. Make it like a memory or a movie first, and then try to describe it. It’ll take a few passes, each building on the layer before...but don’t expect for everything to just come together, as you type.

Also, if you haven’t mastered English...no problem. Just don’t try writing characters who have. Start writing from people/voices you can imitate...read a book until that characters speech is in your head. If you write beyond your comfort of english, you’ll just sound like a cringey kid trying to pull of a new swear word.

>>17552090
>How the fuck do I master english?
Read books about grammar and normal books too.
>How do I make a story out of a basic idea or a 1 line plot?
You should have more than one idea for a novel's plot. One idea plots are better suited for short stories.

>>17550776
Haven't written anything in a few days. Been too anxious about starting the next volume.

>>17552142
I have a few commissioned character art included

>start world building
>realise I'm stealing everything from other writers

What is originality?
Has everything that needs to be written already been written?
Are we all just regurgitating the same story over and over again with our own naming conventions?

>>17552295
Yes. This has been the case since the very beginning. Stop agonizing over it.

>>17552295
>What is originality?
An almost purely theoretical concept.
>Has everything that needs to be written already been written?
No.
>Are we all just regurgitating the same story over and over again with our own naming conventions?
For the most part, yes.
Stop caring about originality. Shakespeare wasn't original. Execution is everything.

>>17552295
Nah, your book is your lens for looking at what people care about. I mean, there are only 6-7 possible themes to write about: Glory, War, Love, Revenge, Road, Money and I think Religion.

>>17551727
>of the entire story (flashback and/or pacing) or only that paragraph? that paragraph was supposed to be slightly paranoid but it needs more work, as it seems
>thanks for reading and the pointers
I liked the paragraph, but the structure of the rest of the story was confusing.

>>17550409
I've heard that from plenty in my group. Marketing is a skill of it's own which can keep good books from being recognized. Worried about that phase when I do publish.

>>17551855
>>17552415
thanks

Anime writing is the future of the canon

>>17543894
god I love this fucking song

>>17542781
Actively trying to not die
this has mostly succeeded
uhhh
other than that
figuring how I want to play the tropes is interesting
combat fiction is fun to write but

>>17543062
anon
Imma help you
if not that then i can do ghostwrite
come fren
>>17543229
JESUS that got DARK
Holy fuck broski

>>17551572
fuck plotlines
make bullshit up
my stories are all unplanned
gogogogo

What makes a book YA? Is it literally if your cast is under 18 you are almost guaranteed to be lumped into that category unless you include ridiculous amounts of swearing and graphic sex scenes?

>>17550548
Oh the horror! It's the anime menace! After wg they're going to take over lit and then every boards in 4chin! I can't bear the thought that one day 4chin becomes full of weebs
>>17553204
If it's written for young adults

>>17553175
Not that dark if it's high school

>>17553204
It's a marketing category. You don't need sex and swearing to make a book appeal to adults. YA plots generally have a sanitized feeling and are in some way wish fulfillment that appeals to teenagers, or at least focuses a lot on making it "relateable" for a teenage audience.

What do I do with a novella if I'm not an established writer? Chop it up until it counts as a short story? Pad it into a novel manuscript? It feels like either would hurt the text. Just shelve it? Or are there places that are looking for writing of that length?

>>17553379
Define places. If you want it on paper, then I'm not sure if any of the fiction magazines still exist. If you don't really care, you can put it online.

>>17553204
YA texts usually have teenage protagonists, but adult fiction or children's fiction can have those too. In my opinion what makes YA is that it is told from a teenage worldview that the text takes basically literally. Emotions are heightened, teenage relationships are portrayed as legitimately important, the worldbuilding (whether SFF or real social issues) is meant to evoke the feeling teenagers get from the world (rather than anything literally plausible) etc.

Because YA is a popular marketing category, people will typically expect teenage protags to equal YA if you're writing for a mass market. There are definitely counterexamples though.

I wrote 3k words today :)

>>17553272
>>17553538
So for me to avoid falling into the trap of "generic YA" it would be possible to have a teenage cast but the story and their individual characters shouldn't revolve around them being teenagers? Their age is just a minor detail.

>>17553709
Depends. A lot of YA it doesn't "matter" that the characters are teenagers because it's wildly unrealistic. If you gave a synopsis of what your work is about it'd be way easier to say if it sounds YA or not

>>17552594

No clue what a ‘Soltana Sketch Arm’ is...but that drawing looks exactly like how I picture a Gom Jabbar.

>>17553709
Teenage characters are obviously going to be defined in part by their age and life experiences, and you wouldn't want to take that away. I'd say the way to avoid generic YA would be to complicate and push back on teenage perspectives and worldviews, while still taking teenagers seriously. You might avoid teens saving the world/doing everything, avoid super-simplified villains with "I'm an evil dude/bigot" type motives, avoid treating high school romance as the end goal of human experience. But also show how their concerns and feelings are legitimate and that their voices matter, and how they're able to make a difference in the world.

If the text is good, teenagers will enjoy it anyway. If published it might end up marketed as YA regardless, depending on the genre.

Is an anti-YA novel still YA? My novel is an anti-YA novel.

>>17553964
What the fuck does anti-YA mean

>>17553967
My novel has a dickhead villain protagonist and shits on people who hold figures like Katniss up as a hero. The characters don't fight against an evil figure or state but among themselves willingly.

I wrote it to shit on YA fiction. I don't want to call it a deconstruction because it doesn't really deconstruct anything. I just tried to spite the altruism and revolutionary heroes seen in YA.

>>17554068
That just sounds like a parody

>>17553762
>>17553939
It's a fantasy about a Religious Cult that raises kids to be monster slayers so for me that screams YA and yes partly ripping off The Witcher.
I suppose the best thing to do is just write it and see which way it goes but I've already planned to have a small number of chapters dedicated to older characters and for the kids to consistently be getting their shit pushed in with no cliche romances.

>>17554097
That sounds pretty YA. The only way I can think of to make that not YA would be to make it darker than what you can feasibly market to YA, more psychological and theme focused than plot. Even in that case it would end up pretty edgy sounding.

>>17542781
>That leg perspective
This artist needs to learn anatomy holy shit, they're beyond shit.

>>17543712
you know, i actually think its interesting as a meta concept to say here is my poem and then just put down a bunch of lines from a song. however im pretty sure its been done so i rate it low anon sorry.

>>17554131
don't worry anon its just the lens warping the image around the edge of the photo haha....

>>17554097
That may end up being marketed as YA depending on content and length. That's not necessarily an issue.

Why do you want to avoid the YA marker? If it's just to avoid the tropes people dunk on, just write it thoughtfully and don't take the teenage worldview at face value. If your story is very thematically deep or textually complex, and you think it would be a better fit for specifically adult readers, then you'd want your pitch to make that clear and target an adult fantasy demographic. I'm sure you'll get a better sense about that by writing it.

For what it's worth, I don't think it's that uncommon for books marketed as adult fantasy to have young protagonists. In SFF you'll also see more overlap between teenage and adult demographics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbRxeJXpNOE

Tiny question for /wg/.
In this bit of prose does the double meaning of "current" have a nice effect or does it just detract from the metaphor and take the reader out of it? This isn't what it's like in the work btw, stripped it down to just get at what I'm asking.
>his room was an estuary between his old life and his new one [...] Everywhere silted up banks of his past life were being washed away by the current
I was only interested in having "current" refer to his current life, kind of accidentally arrived at the wordplay, not sure if it works.

>>17551727
>I agree. how would you write that? or would you just chuck that out?
I think it’s an interesting way of presenting the sunset, so I wouldn’t chuck it out. Maybe use another phrase like “disappeared” instead of “would set in it.”
>I watched it build from the window grilles until the sun disappeared behind it.
I don’t know if that’s perfect, but it sounds a little clearer to me. Hope this helps anon, keep at it.

m-maybe my protagonist just won't have a name as a uh stylistic choice

>>17554798
Just pick a name how hard can it be.

>>17554675
Good video, hope any isekaifag that sees it gets mad.

>>17554907
ultrakek
I guess TECHNICALLY I'm writing isekai
but at the same time it's not really too conventional...

>>17554798
Flowchart:
Does your world have special naming conventions that are a part of its language, culture, etc?
yes? Then take a word, smash some letters together, whatever.
No?
RNG yourself a name.
Dead fucking serious, google EXISTS.

>>17555071
>google EXISTS.
proof?

How do I write a likeable tittymonster for both the mens and womens?

>>17555329
Never mention her physical features. It's been memed into oblivion, you just can't do it.

>>17555329
Do you mean a literal monster made out of breasts or just a big titted woman? If the latter give both of her breasts quirky and relatable, but opposing personalities. That way you can appeal to a wider audience.

>>17555329
Mention her physical features, just to infuriate the faggots on r/menwritingwomen who hate men expressing their sexuality. But don't be poetic about it, that is a bit cringy. Just say her boobs are big. I'd go ahead and state her exact cup and band size because knowing a woman's numbers is hot.

>>17555329
i mean i think >>17555394 is correct but the best you can do is just be unabashedly horny without being disgusting. if being a tittymonster is just part of who that character is i think as long as you're True To Yourself(tm) when you're writing it then it'll be okay. but you can't go "Her breasts were like two ripe watermelons" or some stupid cliches like that. you have to be realy honest and not rely on cliche.

>>17555329
The best way to do it is begin from her point of view listing her height, bra size and hair colour and age.

>>17555329
Make her an exhibitionist who constantly complains about back pain.

How do I write a likeable DFC for both the mens and womens?

I am going to write a fantasy with NO EXPOSITION
I am going to write YA that isn't INFANTILE
I am going to write an isekai that isn't IMMATURE BULLSHIT
I am going to single-handedly fix the SORRY ASS STATE that modern GENRE FICTION has fallen into.

>>17555547
M-MASAKA

>>17542781
Working on a novel and ready to begin revision. Is it best to open a second window side-by-side and rewrite? Or should I just go through and do line edits?
Some sections need major plot revision so I know that will be rewriting from scratch either way, but have you all worked out a method that you prefer?

>>17542781
>fuck ton of good stories come up in head
>think of writing them down
>have no willpower to write them and how to merge them
Should I just start writing and merge the stories along the way?

>>17543192
Fourth wall break

>>17555657
A story in your head and not on the page is worthless. Less than worthless as a matter of fact, because it makes you feel real good to have all these wonderful ideas in your head so you never put them down. Stories are only created when they are put down on the page, and all the nitty gritty details get worked out.

>>17555547
IMPOSSIBLE.

>>17555633
Copy everything into a new doc, rewrite through it

>>17556021
it is too late. i have already shown some prototypes to edgy teen girls and they loved it.
i will not act so prideful to say that i do not need more practice, but i will finish what i started and i will right the wrongs of the past.

>>17555329
This >>17555487 and make her smug about it, too

>>17554189
that's fine anon I mostly did it because I found it funny

>>17554798
maybe his name should be Aiden Hoff

>>17554798
>Not coming up with cool names on the regular
Sucks to be you, I guess...

>>17553557
Congrats anon, keep on trucking.
>>17555633
I’d edit what you have now but keep a copy of the first draft.

Why do semicolons feel so weird to use. In every scenario where I could use it, I'd much rather use a comma and a conjuctions or a simple period. Using a semicolon instead just feels wrong.
I know that a Semicolon represents a half stop that a period or comma cannot offer, but I cannot find an application in writing for when I should use it over every other punctuation tool. To me, semicolons make the pacing feel off.
Does anyone else feel the same way?

>>17557730
I remember in uni a prof would say that if you think you need to use a semicolon, you're wrong.

Guys, what do I do with two /wg/ threads?

>>17557730
So many people use them incorrectly or spam them that there's a subconscious dislike of them. I'm fine with using them in essays or prose, but anyone who uses one in a 4chan post is irrevocably a pseud.

>>17557773
What's your opinion on semicolons in published books? Do you feel that they subtract from the experience? Or that they're pretentious?

>>17557764
Report the other for spamming?

>>17557800
>I'm fine with using them in essays or prose
>or prose

>a character I threw in because I needed him for a scene has now become the final bad guy in my story
I love it when this happens.

>>17557962
Sometimes, the best things in literature are when they happen unexpectedly.

>>17557962
how did it become that way? Did it build-up or by chance?

>Have this nice idea for a main girl character in my story
>now i couldn't give a less of a shit about her even through i made a huge deal about her in the prologue and the first two chapters
I dont wanna go back and rewrite a bunch of shit again. What to do with this character?

>>17558345
what's her motivation? what purpose was she supposed to serve to the story?

>>17558349
She wants to find out who she is. She wants become a member of royalty because it could maybe give her some leads. She has zero recollection of what she used to be before she was found in a field by the protagonist. She becomes a villain by slowly becoming a huge, selfish manipluative cunt who may or may not be in love with the protag over the course of the story.

The biggest problem here is that i kinda already have another plot with another manipluative bitch, who's explicitly into the protag unlike this one

>>17558425
Why not keep writing in a separate document and see where it leads you?

>>17557551
>Sucks to be you, I guess...
TELL ME SOMETHING I DONT KNOW ANON

>>17542781
There are two threads? Damn you weebs!

>>17558541
You'll find an excuse to not finish your novel.

>>17557764
The other one isn’t deleted?

>>17558891
this one should be deleted homo

>>17558908
This, the other thread was made first, this is just pointless spam at this point.

>>17558908
>>17558928
Stop bumping it then and post in the other one. Let it die.

>>17558908
>>17558928
>>17558946
Jesus Christ, all because of an anime pic, fucking hell, you guys really do want to be pretentious.

>>17558946
well this thread is almost dead anyways sooooo...

Let‘s turn this one into a /schizo/ general.
Let your insanity soar free.
Unleash.

>>17558928
This thread was days before the other one, am I being gaslighted?

>>17558975
No, anti-animefags have been making threads despite this being up.

>>17558965
>>17558975
Fuck off weeb,, youodn't care about writing

>>17558980
I don't care what the OP image is but this thread was clearly made first.

>>17558965
No, you're wrong, and yes all this arguing would stop if you'd stop posting those images. It's a writing general, I'd be happy with pic related. For some reason weebs always like to force their stupid drawings or cartoons everywhere which are borderline pornographic. There is a board for that. Anyways, this thread is one.

https://boards.4channel.org/lit/thread/17553969#bottom
https://boards.4channel.org/lit/thread/17553969#bottom
Move to here.

>>17558983
No, fuck off, literally everytime you make one, people tell you to fuck off because you keep making this drama forced,

Pussy fingers on my blueberries. I stopped caring long ago. Dirty nails and an overused mouth. You want me but you pretend you don‘t. You want my filth but you pretend you don‘t. I‘ll break you. You‘ll take me. All will be good. Let me seduce you. Let loose. You‘ll be grateful i forced you and you‘ll get addicted to us. Whores.

>>17558983
>borderline pornographic
It's nothing compared to the photos you see on the catalog all the time desu. The art OP posts sucks but it's just cleavage and a short skirt.

>>17558991
Manicured nails typed this.

>>17559001
>cleavage
You mean the bag strap? Also, it fits the St.Valentine's

>>17559003
Yes.

>>17558990
>NOOOOOOOOOO IT'S FORCED DRAMA STOOOOOOP YOU MUST POST IN MY ANIMERINO THREADERINOS AND DEAL WITH LIKE 50 UNRELATED HORNY POSTS IF YOU MAKE YOUR OWN THREAD YOU WILL BE DELETED FUCK YOOOOOOOOOU

>>17559012
It is forced drama, because you could have just waited until we hit the bump limit, made a new thread with the image you like, and everyone would have moved over without incident because no one actually cares that much except (You) and whoever posts these shitty vtuber images.

>>17558991
Brave.

>>17559016
There's at least five other posters who have been vocal enough to make their discontent known and I am sure many others feel the same but don't bother. Sorry anon, but not everyone is happy to have their writing generals done in tiddymonster anime gurl threads.

>>17559016
No need to make one, it's already up.

>>17553969
>>17553969

just have to make sure weebs never make the next one ever again.

>>17559024
>There's at least five other posters
Yes, because you keep trying to make it into a fucking issue and shit up the thread, like the previous ones.

>>17559024
I just can't imagine caring this much about the OP image.

>>17559035
This is an anonymous board, retard, who is "you"? As I said there's at least five other posters who feel the same way. I was not the first one.

>>17558990
Why don't you fuck off, you fucking degenerate. Why would anyone think it's appropriate to post a drawing of a triangle-headed, dopey looking girl with tits the size of Jupiter when the thread's subject is writing and the board is named Literature.

Just because you like a certain thing doesn't make it acceptable to force it on others. The irony is that such pornographic cartoons are often consumed by feeble geeks who go around pretending they're such compassionate human beings, all the while failing to realise that part of being compassionate is to NOT force your fucking disgusting sexual fetishes onto everything you make contact with. Nobody wants to know what you find attractive. Nobody cares. Keep your sad little fantasies to yourself.

>>17559038
>makes every thread with an anime tiddymonster pic
>"WOW, I just CAN'T BELIEVE people really care about the op pic!"
If it was irrelevant it wouldn't be a pattern.

>>17559035
>>17559038
first of all, samefag.
>I just can't imagine caring this much about the OP image.
If you don't care and it's not a big deal, then why is the weeb making such a big deal about changing it? It's OFF-TOPIC, literally anything else would suffice but these fucking pillow humpers want to spread there shit across the entire site. It's like pol and the maga tards except it's more subtle.

>>17559038
literally, no one could imagine, but they keep bringing it up.

>>17559045
I mean it's faggy, but you don't see it anymore after clicking on the thread. It's like caring about the first post. It's not that hard to just make a new thread when the old one dies.

>>17559050
Are you this >>3922270

Because holy fuck, I can't imagine what it's like to try and waste your time in trying to get a thread deleted, just because you don't like the image.

>>17559050
Also forgot to quote >>17559055

>>17559061
If you're talking about some anon going to another board trying to get it deleted, that's not me. I won't go that far. I just fucking really hate weebs.

>>17559063
thanks for the (You).

>>17559055
I use the catalogue, anon.

>>17559081
Just leave the thread open

>>17559082
Chrome crashes when I open more than 30 tabs retard

>>17559101
>Chrome
There's your problem. I have over 400 tabs open on firefox right now and everything is working fine

>All of this drama because some anons can't get over the OP pic that isn't important?

>>17559106
>400 tabs
psychopath
>>17559111
if it's not important then stop using gay anime pics, danke

>>17559050
>If you don't care and it's not a big deal, then why is the weeb making such a big deal about changing it?
Literally, all the weeb does is make the threads and that's about it. It's you fucks that's bitching constantly.

>>17559123
>if it's not important then stop using gay anime pics, danke
Stop bitching about Christ, you’re acting like an immature asshole who doesn’t get his way.

>>17559050
There's always been anime all over 4chan, it's not just a meme that it started as an anime imageboard. Personally I hate the OP because I hate vtuber cancer, but I don't care enough to throw a fit about it.

>>17559132
>Stop bitching about Christ, you’re acting like an immature asshole who doesn’t get his way.
>NOOOOOOOOOOOO, STOP BITCHING, JUST STAY SILENT WHEN PEOPLE DO SHIT YOU DISLIKE
Yeah, no. Fuck off nerd.
>>17559133
I don't have a problem with anime on 4chan, I have a problem with OP.

>>17559143
>Yeah, no. Fuck off nerd.
So, instead you shit up the writing thread and when people called you out, you either go silent or throw a bitchfit? Are you that asshole that espouses the western canon or some shit?

>>17559143
>I don't have a problem with anime on 4chan, I have a problem with OP
Yeah, you do have a problem with anime with how you react to a simple picture that you can just scroll down.

>>17559151
Bro how many times must I tell you that there are multiple anti-faggot posters. I first posted in this thread here >>17558908.
>>17559165
>"now I am going to tell you what you think"
ok

>>17559168
>Bro how many times must I tell you that there are multiple anti-faggot posters.
It's literally been around four or five.

>>17559168
>>"now I am going to tell you what you think"
>ok
>Please ignore all evidence to the contrary
Fucking pathetic.

>>17559187
Sure and there's about the same number of simps like you etc.
>>17559191
I post in the other anime threads on this board, it's OP specifically that annoys me.

>>17559197
>Sure and there's about the same number of simps like you etc.
Sure, anon, keep on deflecting.

>>17559197
>it's OP specifically that annoys me.
Yeah, yeah, we keep on hearing the same fucking complaints by the same anons, ad nauseam.

>>17554777
checked and thanks, anon