/lit/ - Literature

>>17547131
You expect me to take the words of a mentally ill transvestite seriously?

>>17547131
idk, works well as a meme though i supose.
“..... and its consequences have been a disaster for....” is a good template.
I can say that at least.

Forced meme
Not that interesting or profound.
Another nutjob shat out of the arse end of the 60's like the Weathermen, red army faction and the symbionese liberation army

>>17547131
He was an incel before being an incel was cool

>>17547145
>>17547183
Fuck off with the ad hominem bullshit. Discuss the points he addresses in the book. How could anyone here disagree with the picture of Leftism he has described? How can anyone possibly retort what was essentially a prophetic vision into the future regarding leftism and the monopolization of technology to create the conditions we have today?

He was right on everything except on how to destroy industrial society, if that's even possible. Haven't read Anti-Tech Revolution though

>>17547220
I disagree with the notion that a preindustrial life is more meaningful than a modern life. All the talk about power processes and autonomy, while logical, do not explain what makes a meaningful life. Finding meaning is not a problem that is solved by analyses and logic; it is a mystery one wanders through—without the light of reason nor the guide of God. Returning to a preindustrial life won't solve the issues of humanity. They run deeper.

>>17547131
Technology is inevitable and good actually. He was wrong about most things. Growing up you realize that.

>>17547131
The fact that 4chan unironically takes this guy seriously is just hilarious.

>>17547220
He is correct in basically everything he says about modern society, but these observations are not profound nor hard to achieve. Everyone with a brain knows that industrialism has had a plethora of adverse effects on society. But his fallacies are in that he assumes life was better in tribalistic, pre-industrial society. Abhorrently false.

>>17547779
>But his fallacies are in that he assumes life was better in tribalistic, pre-industrial society.
No he doesn't, fucking idiot. He goes into great detail about the flaws of anarcho-primitivist living. He only advocates that industrial society be destroyed by whatever means necessary, and yes this includes tribal living if it comes to that.

>>17547131
The fact that 4chan unironically takes this guy seriously is just hilarious.

>>17547622
>Technology is inevitable
Yes.
>and good actually.
No. Read Ted.

>>17547818
I'll admit that I read his manifesto like 6 years ago and didn't pay much attention, so I'll assume you're right. But again, that line of logic assumes tribal living is better than industrial living. Counterproof: your son is dying from a plague. You are given a choice to change the world back to an industrial society with modern medicine and have him treated, or to go on with whatever pre-industrial society you find yourself living in and let him die. I sincerely believe there are almost no men who would choose the latter, save for maybe the crossdressing, mentally ill nativist named Ted Kacyinski. Thus, for the rest of us, we would rather live in industrial society than a pre-industrial one.

>>17547904
God I wish I could die.

>>17547915
Why, because you live in an industrial society? Learn to live with it and move on. To you, it may seem like an irreversible tragedy. But in a pre-industrial society, you would have to deal with many more irreversible tragedies.

>>17547528
I wouldn't say he claims that life before was "more meaningful", rather that you had complete autonomy over all aspects of your life (specifically in terms of survival) and so you would feel no need to look for "meaning"

>>17547904
>Counterproof: your son is dying from a plague that was enabled through conditions that were allowed through the advent of technological based society
Pfft hahahahaha

>>17548055
Sounds to me like he wishes to live in ignorance.

>>17548095
There is nothing wrong with this.

>>17548128
Then go live your life with the Luddites and stop killing innocent people due to your internal turmoil.

>>17547945
No, but I think at how hard it is to die in modern society, and wish I could instead die.

>>17548159
There are many painless ways to suicide, what are you talking about?

The stuff on leftism was ad hominem and off topic, despite how accurate it was for most leftists. I have no idea why he felt the need to shit on the wokie left so hard in a manifesto about the damage of industrial society.

Counter Theory:
All technology created after 1955 was a mistake, and 1955 represented a reasonable peak in technology, in everything from telephones to atom bombs.

>>17548224
Because he thinks that they would derail any genuine revolution movement

>>17547904
>He thinks plagues were a thing in tribal societies...

>>17548224
I think he wanted to filter them, but I could be reading into it to much

boring, unimaginative, regressive trite. the type of shit that boring middle class white teens sit around and talk about with their friends and go "lol dude yeah modern life sucks lmao"
not quite anti-natalism tier pathetic but not too far off either

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>>17548224
Maybe at the time of writing, but in 2021 the connection he makes between Leftism wielding technology to restrict freedom while obvious now is really nothing short of propehcy.

>>17547183
>before being an incel was cool
anon...

>>17548372
>boring middle class white teens sit around
Funny, because in Technological Slavery Ted heavily insults modern liberals and says they are are being closet racists and middle to upper class white men who want to tell minorities and poor people how they should be when they live such comfy lives. Fucking based take.

How come /lit/ can never separate the art from the artist? For example, you guys give mein kampf such hate for supposed atrocities the author may have committed. Why not just see them objectively? After all we all started with the Greeks and I think the Greeks would agree with me

>>17547528
You’ll never be a philosopher. You find meaning with critical thinking skills not faggy go with the flow thinking.

>>17548443
1. Hitler was a Rothschild agent
2. Hitler didn't write that book. He had a ghost writer to further the Rothschild propaganda and to establish the creation of Israel.
3. Hitler pretended that slavs weren't white so he could genocide Christians in large numbers
4. The holocaust is largely exaggerated.

Hitler was controlled opposition and its not hard to see. Congrats, you're now truly red-pilled.

Congratulationgs

>>17547904
What about something beyond that? Why does it have to be muh return to monke? Ted advocates to destroy industrial society but that doesn’t mean we cannot try something new and different and must go tribal

>>17548465
Completely bullshit, hitler COULD have been spawn of a Rothschild but he wasn’t their agent. Making a lot of assumptions. Hitler wrote the book. Hitler didn’t pretend anything. Slavs are highly looked down upon by most Europeans. You are a complete fucking idiot replying to me with off topic garbage

>>17548513
Stay blue-pilled and a basic bitch, normie.

>>17547131
i dont like reading manifestos so fuck that but i like him from reading a bit about his life story and about his ideas.

>>17548520
I don’t care about your faggoty labels, you’re insane and likely regurgitating some YouTube video you watched.

>>17548529
>regurgitating some YouTube video you watched.
YouTube has banned and deleted most of this stuff. They don't want NPCs like you to know the truth. You yourself don't want to know the truth.

Like I said stay a basic bitch and blue-pilled.

I can't take this hypocrite seriously.

>>17548095
dude was a mathematical genius and was described as a machine, he probably sought knowledge like a machine for most of his early life. give him a break. just because you can know something doesn't mean you should.

>>17548539
I know the truth sorry hitler said some South Americans were whiter than you but you don’t need to become some sort of retarded schizo mindlessly rattling off anything you read without thinking.

>>17548557
Okay, NPC. Remember the only Rothschild Hitler captured he let go. This is the state of NPCs like you who think Hitler was totally not controlled opposition. How retarded do you have to be to believe this

>>17548573
>Okay, NPC.

Go fuck yourself you dirty fucking faggot.

>Remember the only Rothschild Hitler captured he let go.

Yes they paid him the highest ransom ever paid in history. It’s not hard to see why even he ended up agreeing.


>This is the state of NPCs like you who think Hitler was totally not controlled opposition.

Don’t care for your buzzwords. Way more complex than you’re loony theory. Hitlers failings ended up being used for Jewish purposes. That doesn’t mean hitler was some sort of secret plan conceived from the very beginning. Hitler got outplayed and paid a heavy price.

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>>17548629

>>17548617
>Hitlers failings ended up being used for Jewish purposes
Hitler was a Jewish agent from the start

>also, i have one of the most jewish banking family members in history
>nah i just let him ago
>don't look at my birth record btw
>i am gonna attack USSR instead of Britain and confused historians to this day as to why i did. oh yeah because rothschild family is situated in Britain.

>>17548643
Life isn’t GOT where you just kill people. That faggot hitler caught was one of the richest and powerful men in Europe and other wealthy influential individuals from all over Europe both white and jew.

Furthermore hitler wasn’t even in charge of any of this. It was Himmler and Goring who did the negotiations. After the Roth was captured by ordinary Nazi soldiers as part of the jew cleanup the guy appealed and his case was immediately sent to the high command.

In exchange for the Roth, the Germans get the equivalent of 300million dollars today and Vitkovice(which was owned by the Rothschilds and not the Czech)

Himmler/Hitler/Goring/the 3rd reich ends up agreeing to the negotiations but before the contract could be finalized conveniently WW2 breaks out.

I’m not even going to get into the rest of the nonsense you posted. WW2 had all sorts of players most which were against hitler and his desires for his people and hitler, his advisors also made bad moves throughout the entire ordeal.

>>17548643
>am gonna attack USSR instead of Britain and confused historians to this day as to why i did. oh yeah because rothschild family is situated in Britain

Germany attacked britain before but lost decisive battles, only until Germany had to make up for lost territory did they attack the USSR

>>17548187
Not to me.
Guns? Banned.
Sodium nitrite? Chemical grade, restricted.
Opioids? Rare.
Fentanyl? Non-existant.

>>17548402
I haven’t been on /lit/ in forever the fuck is all this?

ITT:
People who never read the manifesto and have a prefabricated opinion with no new ideas nor comprehension being given.

>>17548224
Because leftists aren't actually revolutionary, they're just slave moralists driven by ressentiment and will never revolt against industrial society. If they ever got full power they would just use technology against their enemies instead of rethinking our materialistic design

>>17548544
Never seen this before, cool.

>>17547848
t. not very well read
consider suicide....
or a rigorous self improvement regiment

>>17547904
he actually addresses this in the manifesto in paragraph 69 lol

> "It is true that primitive man is powerless against some of the things that threaten him; disease for example. But he can accept the risk of disease stoically. It is part of the nature of things, it is no one’s fault, unless it is the fault of some imaginary, impersonal demon"

>>17548224
His manifest, in part, was addressing people who might be interested in revolting against the technological system; and, perhaps, they might form groups to do so. Ted is warning them to not allow Leftists into the group because they sublimate groups into something else. So, like, it starts as an anti-tech militia but transforms into BLM activists, or whatever social issues get pushed. It's also partially due to his encounter with them during his time in academia.

All of that being said, don't gloss over his critique just because you might dislike who he targeted.

>>17549119
the unabomber. harvard mathematics professor that moved into the wilderness and started mailing bombs. wrote a pretty good manifesto

>>17548544
holy fuck that's so unbelievably cool

>>17548513
>he fell for the bait
Back to red dit

>>17548224
Because you're all retards and your movement is based upon exactly nothing?
>>17548383
>leftist talking about prophecies
So just like Marx?

>>17547848