/lit/ - Literature

>>17533449
Krishna was inspired by the figure of Christ: a conjunction between God and man, who loves you and will save everyone in the end through faith in him

>>17533463
exactly

>>17533463
Isnt it the other way around? The gita is much older than christ

>>17533476
Datation of the Gita is controversial, but there are a lot of reasons to think it was made after Jesus died

>>17533493
Even if the Gita itself was written after Christ, the concept of Avatars always existed in hinduism

>>17533493
Where can I learn more about this? I thought it was from around 200 before Christ.

>>17533449
>Is Christ a reincarnation of Krishna?
No. Christ is a God in the Christian religion which derives from Judaism and he can only be said to be real if he is accepted from that very specific worldview which then would contradict the claims of Hinduism.

Honestly though can someone tell me about the psychology of people like you? People that crave nothing but the melding together of all views and traditions. That when others sees distinction and borders, you see similarity and juncture. The choosing of impartiality over discrimination. I'm not trying to be mean or anything but have you guys ever gotten your testosterone levels checked?

>>17533663
I was just gonna call you a faggot and move on, but I might as well answer.
The concept of revelation is directly incompatible with the idea of a benevolent God, If God existed and he revealed himself only to the Jews, then he would be submitting every single person who died without hearing his divine message to the greatest punishment conceivable, the absence of God.
If you want to truly believe, then you can't reconcile the partial revelation to just a select group of people with the idea that God loves all humans that is present in most religious traditions. You need to look at it from a syncretic point of view, realising the similarities in traditions vastly different from each other need to come from a common root.
Or you can look at it from the point of view of Jung, discussing the deep psychology behind the religious ideas that are present in a direct or indirect way in every single culture across time to develop a theoretical background in the study of myths.
Either way, religion without syncretism falls appart.
It's not about muh respecting other cultures, there is a deep philosophical problem behing these ideas.
Check out Primitive Revelation and Der Ursprung der Gottesidee (untranslated) by Wilhelm Schmidt . He was a Catholic priest that argued in favour of a primitive revelation common across all cultures, latter corrupted by emergent polyheism and animism.

>>17533449
Christ is a realized man who became enlightened through pure Bhakti/Agape. As such he really was the Son of God in this state. (I can't accept that he was the only Son of God, the world is too big and timelines are too long for this to make sense cosmologically.)

Having pure devotion to Christ, and loving him with your whole heart will result in liberation, just as devotion to Krishna will for someone born in a Hindu family.

From an objective stance, it is not the object of devotion that is important. Subjectively, it is of great importance to the worshipper, who is naturally attracted to Christ, Krishna etc... Their heart expands, and they start to love the object unconditionally. The process of devotion itself eventually leads to realization, after breaking down "barrier" after "barrier."

Spiritual practice such as meditation and prayer can be helpful in removing doubt and contempt from the mind and heart, which makes this devotion occur more naturally.

It's important to state that devotion isn't the only path to realization, but it's easier to attain for many people.

>>17533782
The Bible is pretty clear on the fact that revelation was to the Jews and then later to the entire world through Christ.
>The concept of revelation is directly incompatible with the idea of a benevolent God, If God existed and he revealed himself only to the Jews, then he would be submitting every single person who died without hearing his divine message to the greatest punishment conceivable, the absence of God
This is all you had to write and then end with "and therefore Christianity is to be rejected as opposed to keeping it on life support through some back door ingenuity."

>Christ
>Krishna
>Amitabha
Who are the others? Which one's the best?

>>17533449
Prabhupada the found of ISKCON held that Jesus was NOT a full avatar, namely an expansion of the Lord, rather he taught that Jesus was a shaktyavesh avatar, namely a being empowered by God.

>>17533914
There are other Vaishnavas that held that Jesus was merely a Yogi, that either through self-realization or contact with Dharmic teachings, taught Dharma, but his message was corrupted.

Finally, Advaitins would fully endorse the claim that Jesus was God because, to them, everyone and everything is.

>>17533892
Focus on finding out which one is true and then you simultaneously know which one is best.

>>17534379
They're all true
Though Amitabha is the easiest

>>17533476
>>17533493
The date can only be estimated to within a few hundred years. The older view is that it is relatively early and was composed in the range of 500-400 BC (S. Radhakrishnan) or 500-100 BC (R.C. Zaehner). The more recent trend has been to date it later, such as c. 200 BC (J.A.B. van Buitenen) or 200 BC to 300 AD (John Brockington, similar estimates from Robert Minor and L.L. Patton).

So we don't know if it predates or postdates Jesus.

>>17534396
>They're all true
Wrong.

>>17534454
Source?

>>17533861
I have came to the same conclusions on my own and see them expressed by others, maybe it's just cognitive bias but is there a convergent movement being born? perennialism as a term seems to broad to apply here

>>17534747

>>17534777
Blessed trips, anon. I think that speaks for all.

>>17533861
Based

>>17534747
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