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>> No.17522418
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17522418

How common are women who don't mind a foot fetish?

>> No.17522424

>>17522406
>oh nooooo i lost all my cherries haha
fucking retarded bitch

>> No.17522426

>>17522418
if you're not a weirdo about it and you have a good relationship no woman will really care, just treat them in the way you would boobs, don't do any weird kissy shit or ask her to step on your cock

>> No.17522436
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wondering if a woman will find me wanting a hug like pic related to be emasculating and lose any sexual attraction towards me

>> No.17522441

>>17522406
>Why can’t I hold all these cherries.jpg

>>17522418
Try to walk away from the fetish and find a whole woman to settle down with.
then massage her feet

>> No.17522448

>>17522436
if a woman ever did that to me I'd leave her
I would never do any of those things to her and I would hate to have them done to me

>> No.17522451
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My name is Maximus Decimus Meridius, commander of the Armies of the North, General of the Felix Legions, loyal servant to the true emperor, Marcus Aurelius. Father to a murdered son, husband to a murdered wife. And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next!

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>>17522406
>be me
>read wikipedia article on some obscure cleric from the early middle ages
>there is an entire section on his theorized homosexuality based on the flimsiest of pretenses that ends with admitting that he thought sodomites burn for eternity in the lake of fire
>look up who first proposed it, it's some faggot named "john boswell"
>notice he died in 1994, at the age of 49
>scroll down to death section
>he died of AIDS
my heartfelt laughter at that almost made up for the whole thing honestly, thanks for reading my blog

>> No.17522462

>>17522436
When in love, this is permissible with good women.

>> No.17522464

>>17522436
As long as you're not always asking to be babied it should be fine.

>> No.17522470

>>17522436
The woman on the bottom left that guy shortly after and or was already cheating on him.

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>> No.17522479

My open mindedness to all ideas and possibilities slowly turns me insane.
I feel extremely lonely. Not that I don't have any friends, but I don't know a person I can truly share my thoughts and emotions with.
Laziness was and still is my greatest enemy. Or maybe it's my friend? Being lazy has helped me in a way, but at the same time I feel like I can do better.
What's the purpose of life?
Dead Space 3 is better than expected.

>> No.17522481

>>17522470
Well it is tumblr. Dont take it as representative of all women

>> No.17522488
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despite all my rage i am still just a rat in a cage

>> No.17522489

>>17522479
>Not that I don't have any friends, but I don't know a person I can truly share my thoughts and emotions with.
I feel the same way. I'm only ever sjncere when I blogpost here. I figure its normal. I cant imagine anyone actually expressing their real and deep emotions to another person. I dont think it happens

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i decided that i want to have kids but then i remembered that to have kids you need to have sex first

>> No.17522506

>>17522436
It's fine if she already is attracted to you, if you already weren't seen as a sexual prospect by her, this would cement you deeply into the friendzone though

>> No.17522510
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>>17522451
>Hi Maximus

>> No.17522515

>>17522470
>RAARRRR MAN GOT TO BE H A R D
>24/7 GRRRR

>> No.17522520

>>17522504 based and asexual pilled

>> No.17522525

>>17522515
see, this is how i know you're not a woman, actual women are disgusted by effeminacy in men they're romantically interested in. it actually generates the emotion of disgust. it's disgusting

>> No.17522532

>>17522520
i'm not asexual though

>> No.17522533

>>17522525
you don't talk to a lot of younger women do you? they're obsessed with male femininity

>> No.17522537

>>17522525
Worse, she's a lesbo. So her insights into heterosexual relations are worthless.

>> No.17522538

>>17522525
Women dont know what they want

>> No.17522541
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>>17522532
nig

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>>17522426
I feel like kissing them would be the least weird thing after rubbing them. I ask because of >>17513177. I really liked this girl, 6 months, and she looked at me like I was walking garbage. She was bright, open-minded, but I think women can be overly sensitive to things of that nature. Everyone knows they're less visual than men, I'm guessing why they have a harder time understanding partialism.
>>17522436
desu it's very saddening that so many men feel this way. My ex never wanted a man's man, she enjoyed being the big spoon, didn't care about muscles, sweet sensitive guys were her type. But feet of all things was just one step too far.

>> No.17522558

>>17522546
She was going to cuck you

>> No.17522561
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>>17522533
is it male femininity to want pic related?

>> No.17522564

>>17522558
keep your fantasies to yourself

>> No.17522567

>>17522564
Its not a fantasy. I had a gf like that and she ended up cheating on me. They lose respect for you.

>> No.17522569

>>17522525
See, this is how I can tell you’re an incel. Women like men in touch with their feelings and are able to show their soft sides, at least in private. This isn’t effeminate or gay. They do appreciate strong and tough guys... but I don’t. I don’t like guys.
Some women hook up with real psychopaths, half of them thinking they can change them, half psychos themselves.

>>17522537
Not really. I’m very observant. I need to be.

>>17522538
Dumbest meme phrase ever. Women are not monolithic and one type. Grow up.

>> No.17522570

>>17522567
Are you American?

>> No.17522575

>>17522567
Good to know your opinion is based off a single personal anecdote

>> No.17522577

>>17522561
to a certain extent yeah, but there's nothing wrong with that. some retards go off on the whole "HOW IS NOT MASCULINE TO WANT TO BE HUGGED AND LOVED AND CHERISHED", but at that point what's the point in labeling things masculine or feminine

>> No.17522578

never cry in front of a woman

>> No.17522584

>>17522569
>Women are not monolithic and one type.
Yes they are

>> No.17522591

>>17522584
You are stupid and wrong
Learn it or go back
>>>/r9k/

>> No.17522592

>>17522569
Why do true facts about heteronormative relationships make you, a lesbian, so angry?

>> No.17522593

>>17522575
I can certainly find more anecdotes that affirm what I said than you can. Maybe you caught a unicorn. Fine. Too bad you let it go

>> No.17522599

Too much toxic masculinity ITT.

>> No.17522602

>>17522592
Because they’re not true

>> No.17522603

i just want a mummy gf and to be a good boy for her

>> No.17522605

>>17522591
I have never been on /r9k/
All women are the same. You are no exception.

>> No.17522607
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>Why do true facts about heteronormative relationships make you, a lesbian, so angry?

>> No.17522611

>>17522602
>>17522607
same cuntoid

>> No.17522613

>>17522607
who are you quoting?

>> No.17522616

>>17522599
Sorry just stating nature, friend. You can talk about all your fancy feminist terms and shit but none if it's real. Women like strength. If they don't they probably have something wrong with them.

>> No.17522618

>>17522613
>>17522592

>> No.17522620

I used to want to convince the men here that women could be good by sharing how I am a woman but strive to lead a life of virtue, but I eventually realized that even if they were to believe me, they do not care because I'm not fucking them, so I gave up.

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>>17522618
i knew who you were quoting, that's why i asked. i was trying to be funny

>> No.17522629

>>17522620
Hey qt whats your number?

>> No.17522631

>>17522620
if you wanted to convince men here of that then just list some literature they could read about it. saying 'i am virtuous and also a woman' doesn't mean anything since no one here can even know you're a woman, at best they would assume you are a trannoid

>> No.17522635

>>17522621
try harder next time fren

>> No.17522638

>>17522616
Strength and the ability to go soft at her touch, you moron. Like you didn’t read my post.

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>how I am a woman but strive to lead a life of virtue

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>>17522621
It only works when they’re not actually quoting anyone or making up a quote

>> No.17522650

>women start posting
>thread goes to shit
Typical

>> No.17522651

The answer, for anyone with both the ability to understand the problem and a backbone, is not a lulled “watchfulness” or a placid descent into the night. After all, what is there to watch now, when the peril is in plain sight? The answer is of course: To take up arms. But it is not sufficient to merely oppose any of these abstract concepts that we have elaborated upon, all of this is merely for intellectual clarity. A positive direction must be given, and ideally not in the form of mere ideology or political philosophy, which are themselves tools of ‘demonism.’ This entirely depends upon the presence of Men of Action, men capable of inspiring, not through manipulative propaganda or reasoned arguments, but through the sheer strength of the will and the solidity of their Being; the “pathos of distance” spoken of by Nietzsche. It is the job of these Herculean warriors to fight their way upstream, against the tide of an unleashed and devouring current, to find the generating spring and to plug it with a boulder. As the wind fights the water, we fight the tide, we take our spirit from the Japanese kamikaze - the Divine Wind.

>> No.17522654

>>17522647
henceforth ergo the joke was meta

>> No.17522656

>>17522650
>Males make thread shit
>Blame the woman.
Scrotums. Weak and fragile

>> No.17522664
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>>17522650
>women
>>17522656
>woman

>> No.17522666

>>17522664
Women are a hive mind

>> No.17522674

>>17522664
>gone in a (pink) puff of smoke

>> No.17522675

>>17522616
I don't envy you if you think nature dictates you resign to being burdened by all these insecurities and fear of intimacy. It's also a fact that's escaped few sex-havers, but incels go in hard on a lot of evo-psych nonsense. Take something like men not being supposed to cry, this is very much a modern ideal. I blame anglos.

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>>17522656
>Butterfly was a cryptomisandrist all along
Not surprised tbqh

>> No.17522691

>>17522616
Women who think their man stopped being a man just because he wanted a hug or cried are just low IQ desu

>> No.17522692

>>17522650
Pretty much summed the downfall of this thread up. I don't hate women, but the women in this thread are unnecessary. Probably ruined someone's day this week. I hope not.

>> No.17522697

>>17522692
You're also unnecessary and probably ruining your parents' day every single day of your life.

>> No.17522700

>>17522451
Toxic masculinity.

>> No.17522704

>>17522681
>Still showing how fragile he is
Bby. I don’t find them attractive, but some of them are mature and wonderful people I really appreciate. The incel warriors of fourchin are not anywhere near mature
I try to help, but some of them are wrapped up in a cult of it

>> No.17522705

>>17522692
>the women
there's just butterfly

>> No.17522708

>>17522697
Incorrect they love me dearly

>> No.17522709

>>17522708
That's why

>> No.17522711

>>17522704
So you dont fuck guys? How tight is your cunt? It must still be pretty tight.

>> No.17522718

any you fucks know who Kent Johnson is? i just learned of him. dude is based poet. if i werent lazy id start a whole thread about how he basically says the future of poetry is Hypersphere or just the structure of the way /lit/ has written books but i dont think he knows about those books at all. he also pulled a Pessoa decades ago using a Heteronym to write as a japanese hiroshima survivor but he publicly still denies writing claiming it was this other dude but we all know what the fuck happened a the literati hate him for it. fascinating fucker i found tonight shocked i didnt discover him on here. i actually havent been on this board in years but this guy reminded me of this place

>> No.17522735

id post in this thread but fucking tripfags ruin everything with their narcissism

>> No.17522743 [DELETED] 

>>17522735
They haven't appeared in this one yet, it's still safe

>> No.17522748

>>17522704
>comes to place full of immature incels and trolls
>complains about place being full of immature incels and trolls

Also, you might want to consider that you're interacting with 18-21 year olds half the time. Aren't you like 40 or something?

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*hugs all distraught boyyos itt*

>> No.17522757

>>17522755
Gay

>> No.17522761
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>>17522755
i need a hug like pic related

>> No.17522762

>>17522755
I need a mouth hug on my shaft

>> No.17522765

my creativity is shot. I feel braindead

>> No.17522766
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>>17522748
>I try to help
Perhaps all of you should consider this

>> No.17522767

>>17522766
You can only help with your pussy

>> No.17522775

>>17522766
As a lesbian, what is your opinion on female Asian feet?

>> No.17522776

>>17522406
I can't save others. I can't mend my family. I want to hold the fragments together. But I can't. We don't understand each other. We hold our feelings deep inside. Yet we don't communicate. We just dissociate. Maybe if she goes away. She will come to understand how lonely we were. I will try to be there when she needs me. In separation we met.

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>>17522406
Every mistake I make is heartbreaking and soul destroying. I don't know if anyone on earth handles failure as poorly as me. I cried at work today. I don't know how it got this bad.

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>>17522775
I’m glad they don’t break them anymore

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>>17522801
no other thoughts?

>> No.17522842

>>17522821
They’re feet, anon.
I’m more into the nape of the neck

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>>17522765
Stop staring at your damn phone all day

>> No.17522884

>>17522766
Dont lie. You like all the young male attention.

>> No.17522887

>>17522884
Women love all sexual attention no matter who it comes from. Even when they pretend they don't

>> No.17522895

>>17522887
Doesnt everyone enjoy sexual attention? I even get flattered when the fat and ugly girls flirt with me

>> No.17522898

>>17522895
How about the fat ugly boys?

>> No.17522902

>>17522895
I feel visceral disgust when fags ogle me, then I realized this is how women feel about most men.

>> No.17522905

>>17522898
I dont think a fat and ugly boy has ever hit on me

>> No.17522910

>>17522902
>ugly men are literally incompatible with women's sexuality
kek

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I wrote 170 pages of a shitty roleplaying game book for some faggots and now I wanna write 320 pages for my own but I have no time left, maybe not until summer or the next 2 years

At least I got payed for it.

I also have this idea in my head for a tabletop roleplaying game or a sci fi book but am frustrated that I have no time to articulate it and there are glaring holes. Basically star trek tech humanity unanimously dies, but just before the last man died they made some sort of technology that can synergize with man and keep him alive. the resurrected machines kept resurrecting. the conundrum is whether the corpse-machines are human anymore or just AI LARPing as humans. How lucid they are and how much they remember their memories depends on what stage the body was at when they dug it out, which means they could only have resurrected a miniscule fraction of humanity as most have rotten away. mostly people that happened to die where they can't decompose, or people who have been cryogenically frozen.

half of the cyborgs cling on to humanity and want to larp as humans while half think that since they survived by the virtue of machinery it means it is the next evolutive step and they need to transition fully into machines for humanity to be sustainable, since the population can't really "grow" outside of digging up corpses and resurrecting them, and even then it's not a sure thing due to decomposition.

The corpse-men roam the stars in search of their fractured lives before the collapse, sustaining only patchy memories due to their damaged minds. Even the first freshly resurrected are forgetting slowly for the past 100 years.

The crusaders want to plunge exhumanity into total war with the two alien races, which they claim have killed off original humanity. considering collective memories of wars with the aliens they might not be wrong.

Aliens are psionics and haven't been able to influence humans or communicate to them mentally since their transition so they don't count them as sentient anymore. They think they are just glitched machines LARPing as people and it freaks them out, and they hope humanity doesn't figure it out and just outproduces and overpowers them, since if the machines didn't actually fear losing bodies they would only have resources to lose in the wars. So other than border conflicts the aliens leave humanity alone.
Aliens know how humanity died and won't tell them.

Radical pacifist biologists that want to gene sequence humans back into existence duke it out with the trannies that wanna go full machine, with the biologists working off of the ideology that the intelligent races are a cognitive organ of nature and are going trough their phase of selfishness/individualism before being merged back into the rest of the organism, so nature can become conscious of itself.

even the trannies find resurrected humans necessary and useful, as they are not over the hump and intelligent AI is still inferior to human minds.

>> No.17523053

>>17523038
what

>> No.17523378
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>''well howdy there, partner!''
>''lovely mornin', ain't it?''
>''so what brings a dandy city slicker like y'all to this neck of the woods?''

>> No.17523386

>>17523378
i'm looking for a cow to milk
*winks at girl on the left*

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>>17523386
>''no problem, brought y'all bucket? it'll cost ya 2 bits to fill it''
>''I'll just show you the way to our here milking cow, she just ova there in this little here shed''
>*knock* *knock*
>''himari-chan, we got a visitor for'ye''
>''she may be a bit shy but don't you worry, this is what she's been bred to do''
>''best milking cow in the whole county they say, we're actually very lucky to have you, she ain't been milked for 5 whole days and she looks just 'bout ready to burst''

>> No.17523457

Do you guys often stop reading books before completion? Do you do the same with other mediums? (TV, anime, video games, etc.)
I do it very often but I feel guilty about it since sometimes when I stick with it, the thing turns out good in the end. However, sticking to this mindset means sitting through a lot of potentially shitty stuff hoping it eventually gets good. It's worse when it's something popular so you want to understand why people like it, and want to be able to criticize it to completion, but also just want to be done with it.
I guess if I go several nights in a row where it feels like it's dragging on and I'm giving something too much of a chance, I should give it up. A few hours of boredom may not be bad but any longer and you're 99% just wasting your time.

>> No.17523461

>>17523378
>>17523448
The first thing I would do is teach these undoubtedly morally-upstanding women the difference between second person singular, second person plural, and possessive adjectives in Southern American English.

>> No.17523465

>>17523461
nobody cares, just have sex

>> No.17523478

>>17523448
*takes off cowboy hat*
*hold it to my chest*
my oh my yer a beauty

>> No.17523481

>>17523457
that was my experience with moby dick. not a single page of that book did anything for me and i felt like i must have missed something considering how praised it is

>> No.17523504

>>17523481
I felt that way about Blood Meridian. Liked The Road though.
Did you finish it?

>> No.17523509

>>17523481
more of an indictment of you than of moby dick desu

>> No.17523511

>>17523457
Unless a book is a classic that I really really want to read, I'll drop it if i'm not interested by 1/10 of the way through. And I don't fuss about finishing things quickly, if a book is boring me I'll read something else for a while.

As for other media, I often don't finish TV or anime series, for no particular reason. I usually finish movies. I mean, at most it's a couple of hours.

>> No.17523515

>>17522406
Ted was right about everything and nothing in the slightest is being done about it

>> No.17523517

>>17523511
Makes sense. Forcing yourself to finish things feels sort of autistic. Finish it if you enjoy it

>> No.17523528

>>17523504
yes i finished moby dick, i also finished blood meridian and felt similar about it
>>17523509
i am not rally a fan of fiction anyway, i like books that can tell me about how the world works and ways to look at things, like books that tell you how propaganda works for example. i find them more interesting due to the real world implications and use i can find with it

>> No.17523533

That the person who loves me the most is the one who worries the less about me out of everyone here, at this instant, is happiness itself.

>> No.17523542

What's with all the retard nerd fetishes on the internet? Tall zombie resident evil milf, who gives a fuck. Brown girls, muscle girls, armpit hair, like fuck off. If you like melanninated women then you are biologically impaired, end of discussion. Even brown men in brown countries lust after fair skinned women, and there's a good revolutionary reason for that.

>> No.17523570

>>17523542
You could pick a better hill to die on

>> No.17523573

>>17523570
no he couldn't have, his hill is mount olympus and he is dining with the gods for being based

>> No.17523577

I think people who don't enjoy fiction have to be mentally damaged in some way. You won't find many people who like fiction who will also go "no, no thanks, I don't like to learn about the world." they probably exist sure, but most people who enjoy fiction will have a normal or even above average sense of curiosity. But nonfictionfags always have to emphasize how they prefer to spend their time absorbing facts and knowledge instead of "things that didn't really happen" as if it makes them more logical and intelligent. It seems more like a deficiency of abstract thinking to me

>> No.17523580

I'm doing terribly and I hate the world.

>> No.17523597

>>17523577
i like many fiction books but most of the benefit you get is that they are 'fun' and 99% of the content will be forgotten and you will have gained very little from them. 1984 is great but reading a book that actually explains real world manipulations through media/government/culture etc is vastly worth more

>> No.17523606

>>17523597
Yeah like I said, lack of developed abstract thinking

>> No.17523613

>>17523606
please elaborate, if there is a fault of mine that you are aware of i would like it to be made more apparent so i may mend it

>> No.17523617

>>17523542
cringe post

>> No.17523630

>>17523613
I was just shitposting, but just being able to apply what you get from a novel towards how you think about things, other people, introspection etc. It's probably not that big a deal if you don't get that out of fiction though.

>> No.17523665

>>17522406
Sleep, food, human interaction. I have begun to grow accustomed to these things in scarcity. I sometimes wonder if, before I was born and God prepared my soul to incarnate and the rough circumstances of my life were being decided upon, a trade was made, willpower and the proclivities of a proper Renassance Man in return for Autism and a childhood which would leave me almost incapable of forming social bonds. No spite or malice if that is the case, as it is just my row to hoe.
I turned 22 last month. I am attending welding school full time, working 30 hours graveyard shift a week, have been going to the gym 4 to 5 days a week, and somehow remained consistent in practicing writing, digital painting, and my studies into Esoterica. Of course, I am also a KHV, probably a covert Narcissist, and dread that I am a weak, spineless coward of a man who does not deserve to identify as intelligent or possessing of genuine faith despite how much I pursue it. I am tired, starving, and have a good chance of dying alone or in a shootout with the police.
But all that aside, life is grand.

>> No.17523672

With the way my life is looking right now, I'd have to say I'm handling things pretty well. I hope I get a better grip on things though, I can be too impulsive at times and really ruin something I had going for me.

>> No.17523673

>>17522448
>hates non-sexual intimacy
don't worry, if you ever had a woman, she'd leave you before it ever got that far

>> No.17523685

>>17523465
That's just the foreplay.

>> No.17523696

>>17523577
I used to think I only liked non-fiction, but I just wasn't giving fiction a chance
>It seems more like a deficiency of abstract thinking to me
It's people buying into the image of book reading too much. The ideal reader stereotype is a guy with a giant shelf of books, reads all day, only serious stuff (no genre fiction, comics, manga, etc.), produces arcane theories that only people like him understand and enjoys the image of a highly learned person even if it's kind of meaningless to his life. It is hard to make this criticism because people will accuse you of anti-intellectualism right away, but knowing a ton of things isn't very important, you're better off learning the small set of things that matter. Cicero is my favorite philosopher because he understood all this.

>> No.17523722

>>17523696
>but knowing a ton of things isn't very important, you're better off learning the small set of things that matter.
how do you know that the set of things that matter is small? perhaps it is huge

>> No.17523791

1/2

Normies are so fucking boring. The women are all do-nothing create-nothings who think their pussy makes them inherently important, so they end up being a glorified domestic cat whose only goal is to bask in the nearest sunbeam of attention.
The men are so utterly broken by the women that all they want is their approval. They don't even dream of sex with them anymore, they don't even get that far, all they want is a single nod of approval from the fucking women, to the point that they will degrade themselves even when women aren't around because they are imagining their internalized woman going "you're such a good boy, you respect me properly, you have correctly identified that I am above you and you know the proper deferential relationship to one's superiors."

You can always tell a normie on 4chan because they can't resist enforcing normalcy. The women enforce normalcy because it's all they've ever known and they've always been at the center of it, where it's nice and warm. They so immersed in normalcy don't even know they're enforcing it. It's just an "is" to them. It's like a fish "enforcing" being underwater. But then normie men are the real pathetic ones. They are the ones on the fringes of normalcy where it's cold, looking in at the center through trees and shrubs at night, at the privileged center where the fire is blazing and the women are sitting around being serviced by the Chad elite. In the normie perspective the Chads have the "honor" of dancing for the women and venerating them, like in Robert Graves' matriarchal femdom fantasies of primeval prehistory.

>> No.17523796

>>17523791
2/2

The dwellers on the fringe live in perpetual sexless twilight, making webcomics and tweets to "support women." They see a random man scoffing at a random woman, privately, and their reptile brain springs into action, they rush over and demand that he apologize to the woman who didn't even hear him. They have no sense of humor, no room for exceptions to normalcy. Exceptions frighten them because they remind them that there may be something beyond the normie life. They prick them with the possibility that some night they should turn away from the fire with the disgraceful dancing Chads and the barely even consciousness women and go off on their own, learn to make their own fire.

Normies are monkeys from a previous stage of human development, I piss on normies

>> No.17523830

I see my post about online fetishes has outed a couple of genetic dead ends. I would tell you to suck my ass, but then you'll probably like it.

>> No.17523834

>>17523722
All that's worth knowing involves how to live a happy and ethical life. I mean you can say it's important we also study metaphysics and shit but that's more because it interests you personally. The right knowledge to me is knowing the importance of friends and family, striving in the face of adversity, trying to act with virtue and taking care of your health. It's knowing these things that's important. Maybe other things matter too, but it's hard to imagine how they could be more important than these.

>> No.17523895

>>17523830
no one is this mad without being a virgin

>> No.17523902

>>17522525
>actual women are disgusted by effiminacy
>>17522538
>women don't know what they want
Truly the pinnacle of cringe. None of you ever talked to a person, let it be talking a woman

>> No.17523936

>>17522607
I don't understand why you are so concerned with the fact that I may just want to stick my penis in unusual places - with their consent, of course. Just because the majority of people stick their penises in women's vaginas, I don't see what is it about me sticking my penis in another man's butthole that is so concerning for you. It's not your penis ravaging another man's butthole. It's not your butthole being ravaged. And if both me and the other person agree that this is something we enjoy doing with our respective penises and buttholes, what's your problem? I don't judge you because you masturbate to anime girls. I couldn't give a shit where you stick your penis, as long as you don't stick it into someone unwilling to have your penis sticked in them.
I don't understand the concern, honestly. People do things to their bodies that are way more damaging than taking a dick in the butt, such as drinking heavily. Now, that may literally kill you or people around you. My penis in a consenting butthole can, at worst, hurt a little at first. I can understand if you wouldn't like a penis in your butthole, much like I can understand people who don't like onions. But I don't go around telling people how not liking onions is wrong. It's just their taste. I like sticking penises in men's buttholes. It's my taste.

>> No.17523937

Im afraid of sexual intimacy and related physical contact. Once conversation with girl leans to intimacy, i just cockblock myself and start treating her as a friend or become completely clueless about signs.

>> No.17523947

>>17522801
the only correct answer. Feets are for nurturing, not torturing.

>> No.17524002

>>17523937
age and virgin status?

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>>17523937
I'm similar, although I never interact with women. I honestly can't imagine myself having sex, it just seems so uncomfortable and scary. The funny thing is that I have a tons of hardcore sexual fetishes, so if you knew me by just that you'd think I was a massive pervert, but those fetishes are just fantasies, I would never be able to enact them.

Like, I'll masturbate to a woman getting gangraped, but in real life I wouldn't be able to stand naked in the same room with a woman, I'd feel extremely uncomfortable and I'd end up running away.

>> No.17524032

Dumb incels getting BTFO by butters the chad

Retards, have you considered that your inceldom might be because of your perennial negativity?

The only near universal truth regarding women and attraction is self-confidence.

>> No.17524044

The main problem are people in general. It is meaningless to make another social media with the same people. It would probably be better to make something to educate them.

>> No.17524052

>>17523577
I like fiction, but I don't go absolutely crazy for it. I think it's because it's because I have aphantasia to an extent, a lot of people talk about there being a movie playing in their heads whenever they read a book, but I've never had that, nor would I be able to do it, my mind isn't able to conjure complex mental images, it's much more limited than most people.

>> No.17524060

>>17524052
I get the movie-playing thing in my head, but it's still not enough because I can't even sit through an average (real) movie these days. There are only a few fiction books which can hold my attention for any decent period of time. Usually with those books I'll read the whole things in one or two sittings, without realizing how quickly time flew by, but they are extremely rare. In this sense I "don't like fiction", but it's more that I'm just a very picky reader when it comes to narratives and fantasy stories.

>> No.17524062

>>17524002
28 kv
>>17524022
Same. If i'd see naked woman in my room, i'd just run away.

>> No.17524063

>>17523457
I do it with videogames and I have no idea why, the worst is when I drop really long RPG that I've put like 60 hours in, and I just end up dropping it right at the end.

I cannot explain it, it's not like I wasn't enjoying the game, but I just lose all the will to play it.

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>actually pretty good at talking to women but women make me viciously angry so I rarely ever bother to approach one

>> No.17524254

>>17522406
i keep looking for a few rare books and today i got a message that an original copy from 1932 was available for purchase, at a decent price at that. i looked into the offer 14 minutes after it went public and the book was already sold, so i searched for a while and found a rare reprint offered in a nearby country for a very good prize. i messaged the owner, but the offer went live two days ago and has already been clicked by 17 people so i'm sitting here, waiting for her to reply and hoping that the book wasn't sold already too. getting into obscure books is unnerving at times.

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>>17523947
based answer, have you gotten the chance to nurture any irl?

>> No.17524417

>>17523597
I honestly feel sorry for you and hope for your sake that you're underage

>> No.17524458

This place has fucking ruined me. I wish I could go back to being blissfully unconcerned with the fundamental differences between men and women and ignoring race. I wish I didn't notice how incredibly boring, shallow, and emotionally driven most women are compared to men. I wish I didn't notice that black people seem so much less intelligent, more violent, but also more friendly than any other race. I just hope at the end of this tunnel I'll be a better man for it.

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>>17522436
> tfw cried in front of my gf of 4 years once after someone in my immediate family died and she left shortly after because she “just didn’t love me anymore”
I would never show this side to a woman again, personally.

>> No.17524510

>>17522533
But idealized male “feminity”, the kind that only exists in their head and they play a crucial part in. In my experience, women aren’t organically put off by it but will actually go out of their way to make themselves put off by a man who is spontaneously feminine, sensitive, etc and then blatantly lie about that reality.

>> No.17524527

>>17524458
What would make you a better man is to leave and have sex.

>> No.17524583

God I am so fucking SMART for not wasting my time with college. Leave that shit for the birds, none of those people are gonna make it.

>> No.17524613

>>17524583
famous last words

>> No.17524758

>>17522436
My ex would hug me like that, didn't even have to ask, the withdrawal is insane.

>> No.17524841

It seems like this board has gotten a lot worse in the last year.

>> No.17524944

>>17522561
I sleep like this with my GF pretty much everyday. So no, there's nothing wrong with that, you just gotta find the right one.

>> No.17524973

>>17524458
>no humans only have two groups of bad eggs
>Also they're highly visible
>I'm sure if I talk to the standard white man his hobbies will not be masturbating and junk food
You need to go deeper. Your hatred is banal, grandiose, and one dimensional.

>> No.17525032

>>17522452
KEK. Source on the cleric?
The faggot is so perturbed by his dirty conscience he can’t help but project on everyone else.
Someone once said that having a dirty conscience is like looking out a bus window at night. It’s so dark you can only see your own reflection.

>> No.17525094

Posting chink women degrades these threads worse then I'd imagine.

>> No.17525101

>>17522629
Lol

>> No.17525163
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>>17525094

>> No.17525170

>>17525163
haha noooo get off me haha personal space aha

>> No.17525194

>>17522436
Just take her arms and put them around you. Women love a tough but sensitive man.

>> No.17525203

>>17524944
She is cheating on you and will leave you soon

>> No.17525317

>>17525203
You wouldn't be this begrudging if you got your dick wet once in a while. Even if it's with an escort just to feel the touch of a woman.

>> No.17525322

After realizing how much my state of mind conditioned my outlook on a situation I have lost all faith in my ability to judge reality. I think most of us cannot do that either, and that the world looks like however our brain decides to regardless of what we can gather and process rationally.

>> No.17525326

>>17525317
Oh so your "gf" is an escort, that explains it

>> No.17525336

>>17525322
If you want evidence to back your notion, I suggest reading The Limits of Scientific Reasoning.

>> No.17525341

>>17522406
I will never find books that scratch my niche itches, and if I do, I will never find more. I'm constantly in a state of starvation for books that meet my needs. If I find a book I love, I have to subsist on it for years until I find another. Why is life pain?

>> No.17525343

>>17524841
A year ago there was some fascist, Islamic, etc. stuff but it was mostly pretty nuanced. Now, it’s either hard lefty stuffc chud posting, or Islam spamming spamming or /pol/ takes and only low brow. What gives? The irregular Jünger threads are good at least.

>> No.17525380

>>17524841
correct. far more /r9k/ and forced memes

>> No.17525405

>>17522488
holy shit, this is the most depressing thing since I listened to 1985 two years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K38xNqZvBJI&ab_channel=BowlingForSoupVEVO

>> No.17525414

>>17525326
Nah I'm single but have had relationships in the past. Escorts I visited a few times in my youth.

>> No.17525424

>>17522504
adopt.
I'm dead serious. Once I thought about how, when they're sad or scared, an orphan doesn't have anyone they can go to for hugs, and that was it. I refuse to create my own children when there are orphans around.

>> No.17525443

>>17525424
they would let a single 23 year old guy adopt a child?

>> No.17525457

>>17525443
no

>> No.17525476

>>17525457
then why suggest adoption?

>> No.17525480

>>17525032
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcuin#Use_of_homoerotic_language_in_writings
the talk section is enlightening as to how these things end up on wikipedia in the first place

>> No.17525518

>>17525443
if you have a stable job, yeah

>> No.17525541

>>17525443
Depends on where you live

>> No.17525542

>>17525476
I'm not that anon

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>>17522406
Increasingly I feel like a neutral observer in my own mind, searching for real feelings that don't exist and immediately deeming vigorous expressions as automated responses. I can think, feel pain, occasionally feel a shiver run along my spine, but what else? To me emotions are more or less just a movement of the face and a particular velocity of thinking, yet other people describe internal sensation that signal emotions. I have never been able to understand consciousness as anything but a pain detection mechanism, only now do I begin to understand that when people refer to being conscious of feelings it isn't just physical pain and touch. Maybe I just think too much desu, I'm otherwise content with my life and making good money after all

>> No.17525754

>>17525443
Almost certainly not, but you should wait until you’re a bit older anyway if you’re going to adopt.

>> No.17525759

>>17522406
feet

>> No.17525770

>>17525443
If you're willing to take in an older child, pretty easily. If you want a baby/toddler that'll be hard.

>> No.17525786

>>17522424
lol

>> No.17525796

>>17525424
>perpetuating someone else's genes instead of yours
Is there anything more humiliating than this?

>> No.17525808

>>17525796
This. When I see children that aren't mine, I kill them.

>> No.17525821

>>17522452
Based Cleric.

>> No.17525840

>>17525808
That's not what I said moron

>> No.17525873

>>17525808
Based lion pride male

>> No.17525916

>>17525796
imagine giving a shit
we're all going to die, and then the sun is going to explode. imagine being so obsessed with some arbitrary concept of permanence that you'll deny someone else comfort.

>> No.17525936

>>17525916
>be a cuck just like me life is meaningless brooo
Disgusting

>> No.17525986

>>17525808
Based and baboonpilled
>>17525916
>dude nothing matters because impermanence
Why do you bother helping orphans then?

>> No.17526017

>>17525986
He doesn't. He wants others to not have children or love traditional families.

>> No.17526036

>>17525742
Increasingly, I just feel like a side character. I’m not the main character of this story.

>> No.17526069

>>17525742
There's a word for that I think, alexithymia

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>>17525742
>searching for real feelings that don't exist
There you have it. In full control of your mind, banishing your emotional self to an imaginary nonexistence.

>> No.17526171

>>17525936
>hurr durr desperately clinging to immaterial concepts to the detriment of myself and others is so fuckin' based brooo.
choke on it
>>17525986
are you retarded? because orphans are real and experiance things.

>> No.17526202

>>17526171
cringe

>> No.17526212

>>17522470
>>17524496
blackpilled but based

>> No.17526355

>>17522591
>You are stupid and wrong
classic stupid irrational female

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>>17525759
Your wish is my command.

>> No.17526509

>>17522525
>actual women are disgusted by effeminacy in men they're romantically interested in
Yes, but I hope you're not conflating sentimentality with effeminacy. The hardest men are sentimental. A woman who betrays a man because he shows a sentimental side at the appropriate time is a retarded bitch who isn't worth it.

>> No.17526520

>>17525936
You're cucked by your own spooks. If the other option is remaining childless, why should it be humiliating to adopt?

>> No.17526521

Been eyeing this comfy game on steam for some time, and today it went on sale. For first time since I started using it steam decided to go full retard and has been giving me nothing but errors on all the attempts at going through checkout, just keeps kicking me out.
I think this is my final sign to just delete everything.

>> No.17526541

>>17526125
Oh sweet butters, I have feelings for naught but thou. To live a sweet day under the sun with you, to hear such simple thoughts come from such a compelling body, I wish it were so! But my dear I must confess, when I laid eyes upon this post I was struck to see an imposter. In all my love for the real buttershit I know him to be an anarchist of most dimwitted nature, but sweet and naïve enough to make it cute. Yet here "you" display an appeal to authority, a request for the very cops you rebel against! So begone base fraud
>>17526069
So it seems, but I hesitate to call myself as such because matters of consciousness are so murky. Perhaps one alexithymics understanding of lacking emotions is different to the next ones, as is the case in things like aphantasia
>>17526036
I used to think as such, I just think that it requires a reinterpreting of what "this" story is. In the story of history no dount much of us will go by as mere statistics, but at the point at which you know more about your life than the lives of others, your story is a more rich and interesting one - in which you're the main character

>> No.17526547

>>17526521
Refund it bro

>> No.17526581

>>17526547
There is nothing to refund, I can't purchase the game in the first place.

>> No.17526584

>>17526521
Just wait a few hours

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>>17522510
top fucking kek

>> No.17526650

>>17523902
don't you think it's kind of funny how the things to which people reply "cringe" to are actual opinions that contain, at a bare minimum, some assertion which can be analyzed or argued about, while the people rebuking them never seem to offer any of their own? it's all "have sex" "incel" "cringe" "yikes" "who hurt you sweetie", there is no give and take or debate, just one side shouting into the void and the other saying "wow okay oof"
i don't really have anything else to say other than that i legitimately and unironically in the most absolute sincerity wish death upon you and everyone who remotely agrees with you

>> No.17526651

I think I could beat up 95%+ of /lit/ users one on one, and I'm not much of a fighter.

>> No.17526654

>>17526651
KEK I could probably say that 10 years ago, not nowadays.

>> No.17526690

>>17526171
I don’t see how anyone can be retarded enough to chastise people both for attachment to the impermanent, and not caring enough about the impermanent. The only answer is that you’re a troll and should be ignored

>> No.17526724

>>17522766
Your help is useless and uncalled for
In reality you've been waging a decade long demoralization campaign against young men on a literature forum
Fuck off you stupid old hag

>> No.17526742

Imagine what the world would be like if people could be honest.

>> No.17526750

>>17526742
what do you mean
honest with no reprisal or what
people can be honest most choose not to be because honesty leads to issues

>> No.17526755

>>17526541
>your story is a more rich and interesting one - in which you're the main character
Tbh. I just read about my favorite authors and their life is a story. Mine is just so boring, static, totally inert. I honestly hate myself and my life.

>> No.17526757

>>17526742
Cool it with the antisemitism

>> No.17526776

Why is there so much incest pornography adverse to outright incest? Every production involving mom's is 'step-mom' oriented. When professional productions categorize themselves under 'incest' it's actually just step-mom fucking. Is this some last desperate Oedipal side-step?

>> No.17526780

I was ready to undergo my sexual awakening. I have awaited this moment for a long time. I wished to surrender myself to pleasure. I have wanted to do this for a long time, but lacked the courage. It felt so surreal to let the master signal my transition into servitude. There was no old me left to refuse. So I obediently complied to the master's desire without a second thought.

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haven't eaten all day (6pm in uk) drank 1 can of stella & listening to kanye unreleased tracks
in awe

>> No.17526797

>>17526780
cringe

>> No.17526804

>>17526776
I think it’s illegal in some places.

>> No.17526809

>>17526750
I mean any which way it would go. It was meant to be an enigmatic statement.
I just noticed at least in my setting how everyone veils what they're truly thinking. Perhaps it is fear of political correctness. Everyone is in a state of perpetual cognitive dissonance. The only way to succeed is to lie. Nobody it seems is honest with themselves. Social media brings out a constructed public persona that is essentially a projected dishonest image.
When someone asks "how are you?" people respond, "doing well thanks" when in reality nearly everyone is in some sort of turmoil nowadays. Formalities mask realities.
>people can be honest most choose not to be because honesty leads to issues
Exactly. But honesty would also lead to the confrontation with and processing of actuality rather than make believe

>> No.17526816

>>17526804
Why would the pornographic depiction of it be illegal?

>> No.17526818

What is common to all dissatisfied persons is the misery of their circumstances. While the religious person experiences this misery as a personal confrontation with God, the atheist consciousness will see it as affected by material conditions.

>> No.17526823

>>17526809
people don't want to confront their issues because that would mean taking some form of action.

>> No.17526832

Analytic philosophy is so asinine.
"Let's compare necessary and sufficient conditions. They are converse."
You get stupid shit like "Being a father is a sufficient condition for being male, and being male is a necessary condition for being a father."


Well, the joke is conditions are requirements.
Necessary is included in the definition of requirement and sufficient just generally means all the basic requirements are met.

>> No.17526853

>>17526816
For the same reason depictions of cp are illegal probably. Incest is illegal in many places and obviously does not always imply all parties are adults.

>> No.17526867

I define philosophy as analyzing the practices of human behavior as well as the very power relations that animate those practices. Taking an in depth interest in how humanity works makes it possible for me to actively learn how to gain ownership over my own person. It makes it possible to reimagine my body and mind as concretely mine, more freely controlled, more powerful and autonomous. I gain understanding of how to control my own thoughts and parse the human thinking process. I see developing a philosophical system as part of the process of individuation, of realizing self consciousness. Philosophy helps us to realize what being human actually means.

>> No.17526903

Memories are a constant stream of mental records that are stored in the mind. Everyone's brain is like a scrapbook or a library that holds together moments. Can we trust our memories to be accurate though? They can be easily distorted by time or self perception. Memories are subject to the mind they belong to. We can change our perceptions of reality through memories. We are asking ourselves what we observed, what we've seen, what we remember, and recalling that.

>> No.17526913

>>17526853
Bounding someone and whipping them against their will is illegal yet there are still plenty of consensually produced porn products of the kind.
>obviously does not always imply all parties are adults
That doesn't stop psuedo-incest from being produced with adult actors.
Mind I'm talking about the simulation of actual incest, not porn depicting literal incest of the actors.

>> No.17526918

>>17522406
I want to reach 1000 followers on Twitter but I just dont have the hot takes they need

>> No.17526984

>>17526521
Can't you just pirate it?

>> No.17527028

>>17526520
Adopt or not you are still childless

>> No.17527037

the past 6 weeks have been the absolute worst emotional roller coaster of my entire life and i’ve never been so grateful to be alive . cheers to to every single person who ever laughed with me, cried with me, cheered with me, laughed with me, was there with me!!!

>> No.17527044

>>17527028
Not if you adopt.

>> No.17527056

>>17527037
I relate highly with this, I suffered an accident last year.

>> No.17527058

>>17527037
it wasn't us faggot go back

>> No.17527142

>>17526984
It's some indie game about controlling wind through natural landscapes, and it's just 1,99 euro after discount, hardly worth the trouble.

>> No.17527166

>>17526913
Those don’t have anything to do with children.

>> No.17527187

>four new video game boards
>vtuber board
>pro wrestling board
Why do they keep creating new boards nobody asked for, instead of actually moderating the ones that already exist? Say what you want about moot, but at least he ran this site like he had skin in the game. The mods and staff are acting like some kind of secret cabal totally separate from the average user. There's no way of telling what they're thinking.

Also, people who dismiss 19th century writers because they were supposedly "paid by the word" either need to shut the fuck up or come up with a more original criticism, I'm so fucking tired of that one.

>> No.17527193

>>17523457
That was a really bad habit of mine for reading. I would read half a book and my interest for a new book would overpower me. I've been working off that habit. I dont even watch tv series because I know I'll never finish them. But I do watch movies til the end, even if they're really shitty movies.

>> No.17527222

>>17527187
>Why do they keep creating new boards nobody asked for,
vtube board has more activity than /lit/ lmfao

>> No.17527227

I wanna go home

>> No.17527234

>>17527187
I havent played video games since I was 16 so I never browsed /v/ but from what I ehar and from what the data shows it used to be the biggest board and now it's second only to /pol/
I'm sure the mods thought it would make it easier and everyone happier just to split it up. Personally I wouldn't mind a /film/ board and a /phil/ board myself, but I doubt it'll ever happen

>> No.17527253

>>17527234
>/phil/ board
/lit/ is already too slow so not gonna happen

>> No.17527286

>>17522406
I want to take the Google Certificate Exam on Tensorflow, but I am scared to do so because I fear technical problems. Also, sometimes I take too long coding data preprocessing steps.

>> No.17527313

>>17527286
from tensorflow.keras import *

>> No.17527318
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I really think it's time for me to move on from this place
I've never hated 4chan, in fact in some ways I appreciate finding it. I thought me some about myself and helped me to discover a lot of new things. But all the negativity started getting to me lately. I used to be a really bright person. I remember when a girl from my class in high school said I'll probably achieve a lot, and it really hit me now. I want to live damn it, no matter how much of pathetic piece of shit I am at the moment. I already expect
>hurr durr see you tomorrow fagget
>you're here forever,
which proves my point exactly. I just can't go in circles anymore guys. And I don't give a fuck about being blackpilled, or whatever the fuck. I believe your outlook shapes your reality to some extent. It's like looking outside of the window- sure you can't necessarily change the scenery outside, but you can wipe the shit off the glass and open it up- let some sunlight and fresh air in. I refuse to accept that bleak reality, I'd rather swallow the cyanide.
And no I won't go to reddit/facebook/twitter whatever. If my years of isolation thought me anything, is that online communities are all a joke. Community is a physical, living thing. It's people genuinely caring about each other. Bunch or online strangers connected by some vague common interest is nowhere near that. It's a shame it took me so long to realize such a simple truth- I need people.

Now all I need is the courage to take the plunge

>> No.17527367

>>17527318
>blames 4chan for being a loser
You can be a perfectly normal person and come to /lit/ an hour per day for fun. I'm pretty much a normie and I enjoy /lit/ with no grand plans to leave it and free myself from some imaginary chains. You're a faggot.

>> No.17527405

>>17527166
I don't think you're getting my point here. I'm talking about why all the currently existent 'incest' porn - particularly mommy stuff - which all involves adult actors, cannot depict straightforward incest with actors, rather than sidestepping with 'step-mom' or 'step-sister' or whatever.

>> No.17527427

I miss her so much. I miss our little escapades, the way we fiddled with our hands like middle schoolers in the middle of the night. I miss her petite hands, her cotton scarf and her smiling eyes.
I miss how fast she lost her composure when I remarked that she was looking at me for way too long in the middle of our lab experiments, so hard she almost forgot to put all of her reagants.
Her fucking smile, the smuggest smile ever when she noticed I also stared way too much. The way she stared at my lips, this game that we were both playing, it wasn't the first time I walked on such a thin thread with someone, pushing boundaries at every meeting but she was special and, fuck, I was happy for once.

I miss her. I'm a grown-up adult and we didn't even kiss, so why does it fucking hurt? It feels like the pain won't ever stop. I sometimes wonder how different everything would've been if we both pushed the boundaries a little bit more that night.

Aah fuck. The worst in all of this is that stopping all of this insanity was the right thing to do. I can't even get mad at anyone but myself, I can't even hatefully erase her from my memories because she didn't do anything wrong.
I find myself reaching out for her in the morning before I realize that she's gone forever. Feels like I'm living in the wrong fucking timeline.

>> No.17527436

>>17527367
Nah the reason why I'm a loser has nothing to do with 4chan. That wasn't the point.
It's just that visiting this place is certainly not helping me with moving on from being one. Change requires, well change. Cutting on bat habits is is definitely a place to start

>> No.17527458

>>17526853
Porn is one of things that just happens, kind of like slavery or alcohol. It's a phenomenon of nature, a natural tendency. You can do things to stop it but it will always surface somewhere. Since ancient times people were drawing erotica, carving little tit idols, painting phallic totems. Even cave paintings have dicks on them.

>> No.17527465

I’m starting to suspect that reading philosophy is either very counterproductive or very productive for writers of fiction. What do you think?

>> No.17527474

>>17527465
it's incredibly productive for philosophers. i don't know about the rest of you plebs

>> No.17527485

>>17527474
That’s why I said “writers of fiction”...

>> No.17527487

>>17527485
I don't care ...

>> No.17527491

>be me
>see cute hispanic girl in 3d animation class in community college
>say hi, exchange numbers and have lunch
>turns out she's into kpop so being a koreanfag finally works in my favor
>become good friends but also discover her pleb taste in music and that she can't talk about philosophy or /lit/
>nonetheless try to appreciate her good qualities as we become closer
>go to the tutoring center for work and see pretty blonde asian tutor newly transferred in from Smith
>awkwardly initiate conversation
>she decides to be nice and indulges me in a long convo about books and art and whatnot
>one day American Psycho comes up and she shares her interpretation, I share mine in return
>say something cringe about how capitalism and violence are linked, and refer to Judge Holden's glorification of war as the natural state of things
>canceled.jpg
>she stops responding to my texts
>meanwhile hispanic girl confesses feelings for me
>"I just want to be friends"
>asks me not to leave her, is okay with being friends
>she goes to visit relatives in Peru, COVID happens, now she's stuck there
>I take being rebuked by asian girl personally and withdraw per usual
>stop responding to hispanic girl's messages
>it's been a whole year
>part of me thinks I should reach out and apologize
>part of me thinks she's moved on and there's no need
>what should i do anons

>> No.17527496

>>17527491
>be me
Stopped reading here, couldn't relate.

>> No.17527500

It's so annoying that I have to die. I wish I was born centuries ago and witnessed everything that happened: I wanted to see the evolution of metrical form in English poetry and observe the evolution of culture in real time. Now we just get a shitty piece-meal stiched up history from person to person instead of an overarching view from some enlightened sages. It's kind of beautiful but also it fucking sucks.

>> No.17527546

>>17527491
Just move on, man. It was over before it started.

>> No.17527553

>>17527500
Tell me about it.
One of my dreams is to witness the development of a supercomputer/black box that can simulate multiple generations of music development in a short amount of time. Would be cool for other mediums as well.

>> No.17527581

>>17527491
>capitalism and violence are linked,
hahahahaha you fucking retard

>> No.17527594

>>17527546
I guess you're right.
I still can't strike a balance between not feeling responsible for the feelings of others and not feeling like an asshole, but thanks anon.

>> No.17527610

>>17527487
Kys yourself “philosopher” scum...

>> No.17527629

>>17527610
Cope "fiction writer"

>> No.17527639

>>17527581
All edginess and social convention aside, isn't capitalism violence on a fundamental level? Aren't the material benefits of living in a capitalist society (ie clothes, food, luxuries) all derived from the large-scale exploitation of environment, person, or animal?
(I know that saying it front a girl I was getting to know was retarded- and I'm open to having my notions critiqued)

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>>17527639
Try reading something outside of your cringe marxist texts

>> No.17527656

Last night when I got home I realized there was a 110 degree difference in temperature between inside and outside. It is -18 out right now, the sun actually feels warm after 7 days of -20 to -40, amazing how much difference a few degrees can make for the moral. Back down around -40 tonight, two more days of sub -20 and then things start warming up, supposed to get to 15 next week. I am not dreading the bike ride into town for a change, actually looking forward to it, think I will run some errands before work and get a few extra miles in.

>> No.17527725

>>17527610
>Kys yourself
>fiction writer
Checks out

>> No.17527733

>>17527649
I haven't read a single Marxist text in my life.
And for that matter I don't think the "violence" is avoidable, in any case. It's the fundamental way of nature for things to surmount others, and this pattern appears to be negative only when we cast human values on the whole thing. So when I shed my socialized view on this (which laments imbalance) I actually see the merit of things like Landian accelerationism.

>> No.17527800

>>17527656
Reminds me of this video about the coldest place on Earth. Apparently it's so cold that your eyelashes and nose membrane freezes. Makes me shiver to imagine going to work/school in that weather. Hope you stay warm anon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HXXJg4vDF8

>> No.17527870

MAKE A NEW THREAD QUICK WE MIGHT HIT THE BUMP LIMIT WE'RE STEERING RIGHT TOWARDS IT YOU FOOLS

>> No.17527892

>>17527733
>appears to be negative only when we cast human values on the whole thing
Nah, it's only when you cast the values of the weak and vanquished on it

>> No.17528071

>>17527892
See the egotistical part of me, which is seduced by Ubermensch theories and all that, is inclined to agree with you, but I don't think it's in the interest of humanity to appeal only to superiority because there's no objective measure of what a superior person is or who has the potential to do great things.
For starters the 'weak and vanquished' is such an arbitrary term, and can fit whatever imperfect agenda a person might have- and in fact can be used in some way to describe all those philosophers/scientists/artists we revere on this board but were by no means dominant or superior in conventional realms of life (and were actually often isolated and dispossessed), who managed to escape their shortcomings through inquiry, creation, and discovery.
By your thinking humanity would be better off without mavericks like Einsteins and Teslas and DaVincis, who were all weak in some way- yet compensated for their weakness through greatness- and have a homogenized neurotypical world of dominant types who can't really do shit to bring us forward.

>> No.17528111

>>17528071
>For starters the 'weak and vanquished' is such an arbitrary term
It's observable and obvious and it's what drives history

>> No.17528135

>>17527800
The narrator really hams it up for that video. Nose freezing is not much of an issue, your exhale thaws it, you learn to breath the keep mouth and nose functioning. Eyelashes is just your breath freezing and actually more common at warmer temps, at -50 your breath has generally already frozen by the time it reaches your eyelashes so can not freeze on them, around -20 or so you can get pretty great eyelash/brow ice formations, -50 tends to just be the balls on the ends. Beard gets the best ice formation, starts around -30 and can get surprisingly large.

>> No.17528229

>>17528111
I understand that every great idea/person/movement relevant to human progress had to gain prominence at the expense of weaker ideas, but don't you think that by only prizing what emerges superior you ignore possibilities that could lead to interesting outcomes?

Take music, for example. Is pop music the best? It's certainly the dominant and most prominent form of music. But pop music itself is a mongrel artform descended from African spirituals, European art music and a bunch of ragtag influences that were once left-field and culturally irrelevant.

I'm going to go out on a limb by saying that you value books and Greek philosophers, even though they have little to no cultural relevance today. You respect the fact that they influenced the course of Western civilization, and staked their claim in human history. But only a fool would say that today's values are aligned with what's in those pages. To most people what's in there are just anachronisms and dry prose- as relevant to our values as pop music is related to an African man strumming on a banjo in 1735.

Doesn't mean that we can't learn from these books, but I'm curious how you reconcile your fetishization of the strong when Western culture is in its death throes.

>> No.17528244

hi

>> No.17528261

Why anons fall into any kind of bs?

>> No.17528284

>>17528261
They unironically spend money buying books that have a high chance of being bs. And that is not even to expose the author as a charlatan, but to actually get into their ideas and start following their bs. Basically, why some anons are so stupid?

>> No.17528285

>>17528244
hello!!!!!!!

>> No.17528297

>>17528285
ohw are you, anon?

>> No.17528300

>>17527491
>Judge Holden's glorification of war as the natural state of things
This isn't true and why she left you. I'm not saying to connect to your "feminine side" like a fag, but saying violence and rape are the natural state of things gives off some red lights.
You can try messaging her again about how doing one's best to be a virtuous person is the most important thing. She will start talking with you again.

>> No.17528312

>>17528297
chilling..................hbu

>> No.17528327

>>17528229
>even though they have little to no cultural relevance today.
Extremely cringe. Even the absolutely kiked nobel prize winners today reference greek works.

>> No.17528332

>>17528312
Headache, some crazy migraine, doing some meditation to deal with it. But doing great not considering that. What are you reading, anon? I have to study Japanese, but I'm procrastinating.

>> No.17528335

>>17527044
You do not have children, you are looking after someone's child. They are different things.

>> No.17528417

>>17528332
take some painkillers anon~ I have to study Latin too but tomorrow cause it's late in bongland

>> No.17528432

>>17527639
>>17527491
>zoomers think there would be no violence without capitalism
Why are they so fucking retarded?

>> No.17528433

>>17523937
I'm a good-looking guy and have gotten a lot of unsolicited attention from women but I have this exact same problem, to the extent that I've only fucked (or rather been fucked) by only the most brazen and aggressive of girls who will not back down even when drowning in the waves of my autism. I know the reason; I was fat and spergy as a kid and was bullied by girls continuously. Did something similar happen to you?

>> No.17528460

>>17528300
Can't, I deleted her number and moved on a while ago. And texting something like that feels disingenuous and manipulative lmao. I've stopped believing in that edgy bs- but sometimes I wonder if it's even worth it to pursue relationships when having feelings for someone puts your emotions in this vulnerable, chaotic flux. Honestly feels preferable to put yourself in an emotional permafrost instead of giving into desires that really just come down to reproductive impulse, and can potentially derail your emotional state. Maybe transmute frustrations into something productive instead. Who knows.

>> No.17528466

>>17524458
Every group you could care to examine is full of retards, but it is true that some are retardeder. There's nothing wrong with you for noticing this. The best thing you can do is be aware of it in the back of your head, but in your day to day life give everyone a fair chance even if they're a woman or black or even a black woman. Decency is an individual trait and you need to seek it out on an individual basis.

>> No.17528473

>>17528432
That's not what he's saying, I don't agree but I get the idea. Violence in other systems of society would be an incidental thing done only for survival, but in a capitalist society it would be a constant since it's built off the labor of the working class. This falls apart when you consider serfdom and slavery were mainstays in like every ancient society. The truth is humans just aren't moral.

>> No.17528476

>>17524841
no, it was the 4chan/4channel schism that did it, the post quality crashed through the floor on that very day and never recovered

>> No.17528487

>>17528473
>Violence in other systems of society would be an incidental thing done only for survival
Communism gibbmedats would magically do away with black gangs and cartels. Incredible!

>> No.17528490

>>17528476
It had literally 0 impact

>> No.17528500

>>17528476
>>17525343
>>17525380
>>17524841
>>17528490
It's literally zoomers. They have ruined the internet.

>> No.17528517

>>17528500
It was always shit newfag

>> No.17528519

>>17528487
Every critique of capitalism isn't a direct promotion of communism.

>> No.17528540

>>17528519
What do you think capitalism means?

>> No.17528566

>>17528473
Yeah this, except... I think life/existence is just violent period. No living thing can exist without demarcating its own body from its environment, locating and absorbing its surroundings for personal sustenance. Stripped of illusions life seems to come down to survive, eat, and reproduce ad nauseum at the expense of other things which happen to have the same internal drives and desires.

Going further I don't think there's any true difference between particles fizzing about, a stretch of mud cracking into pattern, and the constant ebb and flow of human violence. To me they're just certain configurations of matter/energy overcoming others on a micro/macro level scale. Refute me on this if you want, in the end I'm still trying to figure this out.

>> No.17528571

>>17528540
Communism is just one proposed alternative

>> No.17528635

>>17528327
Yeah, but they're only effective as Brand Names™. They've been disemboweled of their values, and made into cheap references to command literary authority. The classics are literally a sand-filled, headless Ozymandias.

>> No.17528688

>>17528635
No one cares bro, culture has ups and downs. Jews were stronger post war so they raped everything of value just like they did in Weimar Republic. The pendulum swings both ways, that's how history works but you have no historical perception because you only read modern trash and take your opinions from Twitter. You ask me how I'm coping with whatever retarded shit you're saying. I cope by reading good stuff from other time periods. Europe had many cultural dark ages but still lots of golden ages to enjoy. I don't give a shit about whatever modern issues you have with current world. I know what's Good, what's True, what's Beauty because I'm European. I will continue to follow European tradition and so will my children and my grandchildren and so on forever. I don't have problems because I know Truth always wins.

>> No.17528724

>>17528688
I guarantee you are an American mutt with no identity but his race

>> No.17528750

>>17528724
I guarantee you're a third world mutt. I'm from the UK.

>> No.17528804

>>17528724
>non-white seething when hearing about European Culture, Truth, Good, and Beauty
Like clockwork.

>> No.17528812

>>17528804

european culture was slaughtering each other for 99% of its history kek

>> No.17528846

>>17528812
Ok kike

>> No.17528976

>>17528688
If you find meaning in those things, more power to you. Even though I've been contradicting you in the spirit of argument, I don't think that Western ideals are irrelevant or garbage. I think their absence today is symptomatic of a culture that is arsed-backwards and unable to perceive history, as you say- and honestly we don't stand too apart on matters at the end of the day.

But I'd say that by disparaging kikes and niggers and gooks and patting yourself on the back as the conqueror or the Ubermensch you're probably just coping for a deep lying insecurity, like what one feels when they feel inferior, dispossessed and unable to affect change.

Western culture is founded on the polyphony of competing voices, and doesn't lend to one overarching narrative as objectively true. I'm glad you have something to believe in though, as most people don't, but maybe you should consider how much of your worldview originates from cowardly fear and suspicion rather than conviction in your values.

>> No.17529058

>>17528976
Cringe wiki psychology also you don't understand my position anyway. Start with the Greeks

>> No.17529344

>>17522510
KEK

>> No.17529364

>>17528417
Yes, maybe I should. I don't really use those things, but I'm probably getting old.

>> No.17529425

could be cathartic, let's see what i come up with
i'm 30
i'm tired
i'm cold
i'm sad
lonely
not really looking forward to anything
my career is good
i'm fit
i have "hobbies"
but i just feel like i'm waiting for death
it all just kind of feels like i'm waiting and trying to make the best of the time
like playing hacky sack while waiting in a long line
it's not that fun, but it's something
my whole life feels like that
i don't get the buddhist idea of seeking an absence of want
i wish i wanted something
well, i guess i do want things, but they're seemingly unattainable at the moment
financial stability, a woman who loves me, a society that is beautifully blossoming, a humanity that is meeting its potential
just sad
i wish i were dead
i don't know
it doesn't feel good

>> No.17529485

>>17529425
Get professional help, anon.

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>>17522406
Death and the idea of nothing scares the absolute pants off me.

>> No.17529586

>>17529485
thank you for reading, and for the suggestion
i might try. i had in the past, for years, but have since taken a ~3 year break. i don't think it will help, but i'm fairly desperate again and honestly just talking to someone openly in person would be nice.

>> No.17529603

>>17529586
Well, it might be time to get back into it. Maybe open up to your wife/gf?

>> No.17529649

>>17527253
this board is far from slow

>> No.17529663

>>17522452
>>17525480
Sorry bro but Alcuin is a fag.

>> No.17529674

>>17529603
i'll consider it.
and i am sans wife or gf, which potentially adds to my sorrows. i've been just as sad in relationships as outside them, though i've never been with someone i felt "in love with", recognizing that love is an ideal. just never really, really jazzed about the person i was with.
again, thanks for reading and sorry, i'm obviously melancholic.

>> No.17530129

>>17529485
Not him, but why ?