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Is this a good translation? I hear The Study Quran is the best but I don't want to be overwhelmed by all the notes. I just want to take in the Quran then read supplementary literature.

>> No.17516746
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>>17516735
All you need to know about the Quran.

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>>17516746

>> No.17516763

>>17516735
Koran doesnt have any context and has a system of abrogation, its impossible to get the contextual meaning without commentary, textual analysis and a biography of muhammad

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Arberry's is the best if you don't want commentary. For commentary, Qutb or Ibn Kathir's tafsir translated into English

>>17516746
>>17516758
these images have been addressed

here
here
>>/lit/thread/S14651153

https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/8248530

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>>17516746
>>17516758

>> No.17516857

>>17516785
>>17516852

What's the Arabic equivalent of "oy vey"?

>> No.17516873

>>17516857
incidentally jews are better than christshits

>> No.17516882

>>17516857
t. Ben Shapiro

>> No.17517074

>>17516785
What's your opinion on Pickthall?

>> No.17517098

>>17516746
Nonsense, we can always know more so we can tear it apart further.

>> No.17517103

>>17517074
Eloquent although massively different in style from the Qur'an

>> No.17517242

Study Quran is shit, it has almost notes. Best is Ibn Kathir.

>> No.17517271

That’s the one I have OP. A problem with it is that it doesn’t use the word Allah. It uses the translated God. This didn’t bother me that much but I would have preferred reading the read Allah on the page as it would have felt more “immersive” or whatever.

>> No.17517302

are there any schools of islam that interpret verses in a way that total nonbelievers or believers of different faiths are not condemned to hell?

>> No.17517381

>>17517302
Ibn Taymiyya believed they would come out of hell eventually.

>> No.17517401

>>17517381
do you think it's more or equally valid than the common view that holds the opposite view?

i know i sound super lazy, but i literally just got into islam in the last few days and should be doing homework right now

>> No.17517430

>>17517242
it's almost all notes, Pickthall is best imo

>> No.17517437

>>17517271
Yeah that's what I noticed about the translation and I agree with you.

>> No.17517463

>>17517401
It makes lots of sense and is probably the only rational option if you buy into his wider theology, ethics, and theodicy.

>> No.17517473

>>17516785
>shut it down ahmed
>hide the lolis
>hide the goats
>use taqiyya ahmed!

>> No.17517489

>>17517473
If you want to dislike a thing you ought to know it first, or be a fool.

>> No.17517531

>>17517489
I understand Islam well enough to know it merits hatred.
Any other spiteful remarks?

>> No.17517599

>>17516735
Sahih International is the best translation

>> No.17517617

>>17517401
This view isn't even held explicitly by Inn Taymiyya himself. He mentions the view in his books, but not that he adheres to it. His student popularised it, but basically *nobody* follows this view except modern westerners who find it awkward to tell their non Muslim neighbours that he believes they will burn.

Frankly, it's an extremely minority view.

>> No.17517643

>>17517617
He explicitly upholds this view in the last book he wrote lol. This is the same cope you people always use.

>> No.17517712

>>17516763
>doesn't just instinctively understand Quran
ngmi

>> No.17517725

>>17517712
the hungry catterpillar is more profound than islam

>> No.17517730

>>17517725
k

>> No.17517802

>>17517730
Seethe

>> No.17517899

>>17517725
And less repititous

>> No.17518119

>>17516873
>>17516882
Arabs are just stupider jews.

>> No.17518162

please help and spam this bitch.

+436604328969

>> No.17518278

>>17516857
Ya allah

>> No.17518380

>>17516857
THE KAFFIR KNOW!

>> No.17518483

>>17516857
Exploding

>> No.17518883

>>17518483
LOL