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Hello literature.

Just wondering who your favorite lyricists are.
name your top 5 for me, you good people.

>> No.1751226

conor oberst (bright eyes), nick cave, jesse lacey (brand new), whoever wrote the songs in pink floyd, tim kasher (cursive)

>> No.1751238

>>1751226
I'm ok with you picking Nick Cave stag.

>> No.1751244

>>1751238
i guess the others are just too obscure for you but that's ok

>> No.1751245

Tom Gabel (Against Me!)
Pat the Bunny (Wingnut Dishwashers Union, Johnny Hobo, etc.)
Patrick Stickles (Titus Andronicus)
Soupy Campbell (The Wonder Years)
Jeff Rosenstock (Bomb the Music Industry!)

>> No.1751248

>>1751245

Fuck, and Sean Bonette (Andrew Jackson Jihad)

>> No.1751257

>>1751244
Obscure lol

>>1751245
fine.

>> No.1751263

>>1751248

Goddamnit, and Katie Crutchfield (PS Eliot, Waxahatchee)

>> No.1751267

Whoever writes the lyrics for Belle and Sebastian. Yeah I know i'm a faggot. Also Anton Newcombe and Billy Corgan

>> No.1751279

>>1751226

Jesse Lacey's not bad. I will always love the bridge of Seventy Times Seven.

>> No.1751284

>>1751267
I'm seeing them live soon :3

>> No.1751290

David Mead
Ryan Adams

And, I don't even give a fuck:

Bernie Taupin

>> No.1751303

>>1751284
Oh man I would kill you from jealousy!

>> No.1751307

astronautalis
buck65
bob dylan

>> No.1751320

Jeff Mangum
John Woloschuck
Bob Dylan
The team of Jon and Dan Cole
J. Spaceman

Runners up:
Thom Yorke
John Lennon
George Harrison
Pete Townsend

>> No.1751323

Jim morrison. Fin.

>> No.1751346
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1751346

/mu/ here, laughing at your entry-level taste in music

>> No.1751349

Isaac Brock (Modest Mouse)
Sufjan Stevens
Stephen Malkmus (Pavement... such beautiful nonsense)
Bob Dylan (obligatory)
Jimi Hendrix (good imagery imo)

>> No.1751352

>>1751346

Who are your favorite lyricists? I want you to know now, though, that I will not criticize you for whoever you put. I understand and accept that everyone has different tastes and no opinion can ever be more accurate than another

You dick.

>> No.1751353

>>1751346
It's funny because I mainly go to /mu/, followed by /adv/, followed by /lit/.

So technically, I'm /mu/ here too.
dont give a shit about a royal wedding

>> No.1751354

>>1751320
Jason Pierce, nice. i love his work with Spacemen 3 the most.

>>1751346
/mu/ here laughing at you.

>> No.1751360
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I love the lyrics to The Moon by the Microphones.

>> No.1751368
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1751368

Let's not forgot Mark E. Smith

WHERE ARE THE OBLIGATORY NIGGERS?

HAFTA HAFTA! MESSAGE FER YA MESSAGE FER YA!

THEY COULDN'T TELL LOU REED FROM DOUG YULE

>> No.1751369
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1751369

Aaron Weiss(mewithoutYou), Jeff Mangum (Neutral Milk Hotel), Jayson Green (Orchid), David Tibet (Current 93), Morrissey, Brian McMahan (Slint), Michael Gira (Swans) and whoever wrote the lyrics for Circle Takes the Square's As the Roots Undo.

>> No.1751374

>>1751368
He's 4th on my list.

becausHEY THERE FUCKFACE!!!!

>> No.1751378

>>1751368

i hate the countryside so much

>> No.1751380

Gerard Way
Brian Molko
Sean Bonette

>> No.1751381

>>1751380
and Ian Curtis

>> No.1751386

>>1751381
Amanda Palmer

>> No.1751390

graham lambkin

>> No.1751391
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>>1751380

Fuck yeah for a second Sean Bonnette!

>> No.1751394

mogwai you made this thread i just noticed that

>> No.1751418

>>1751394
Yeah.. i did.

>> No.1751425

Nick Cave
Michael Gira
Pete Helmkamp
Vic Chesnutt
Bob Dylan

Let the hating begin.

>> No.1751431

>>1751425

west of rome is one of the best albums ever

>> No.1751436

Stephin Merritt

>> No.1751440

Anyway..

Cat Stevens
Tim Buckley
Lloyd Cole
Mark E Smith
Neil Young

>> No.1751443

Jeff Mangum
Thom Yorker
Tyler, The Creator
Cedric Bixler-Zavala
Ken Snyder

>> No.1751457
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1751457

>Cedric Bixler-Zavala
D: that de-loused book was awful.

>> No.1751459

>mfw any post in this topic not containing morrissey

seriously, best pop lyricist ever.

>> No.1751479

>>1751459
his lyrics are good but can be spotty at times. I always listened to the smiths and even his solo work primarily for the music (Your Arsenal, in particular). The lyrics were of less importance to me. If you haven't already, you should check out The Magnetic Fields, Stephin Merrit writes good, depressing lyrics in a similar vein to Morrissey's.

>> No.1751482

>>1751440
>Tim Buckley

my nigga

>> No.1751506
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Gotta hand it to him. Good lyrics on the early mixtapes.

>> No.1751514

Zack de la Rocha (Rage Against the Machine)
Niel Peart (Rush)

>> No.1751518
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/thread

>> No.1751563

Cat Stevens, Jeff Magnum, Morrissey, Robert Smith, Gordon Lightfoot, Sufjan Stevens, Paul Simon, Kate Bush.

>> No.1751572
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1751572

Jim Morrison, Bob Dylan, Conor Oberst, Billy Joel (I know, how gay? but listen to some of that shit and try and tell me he sucks), and Notorious BIG

>> No.1751591

Man, I dunno. Hard Question. Leonard Cohen has to be up there though, alongside Bill Callahan.

>> No.1751597

Colin Meloy

>> No.1751601

Anthony Green (Circa Survive), Young Jeezy (seriously), Jim Morrison, Whoever writes the songs for Opeth and Pink Floyd

>> No.1751604

Tom Waits, Bob Dylan, Jack White, Robert Johnson, and umm Tom Waits again.

>> No.1751608

>>1751591
bill callahan brofist.

(leonard cohen is mindblowing but also sort of obligatory)

>> No.1751610

>>1751267
>>1751267
internet brofist
high fucking five

i love belle and sebastian and think that stuart murdoch is an awesome storyteller

also
The Mountain Goats
Jesse Lacey
Elliot Smith
Conor Oberst
and Andrew Bird is pretty sick

>> No.1751622
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1751622

pic related, art fags

>> No.1751624

leonard cohen, bob dylan, and eminem

/thread

>> No.1751658

Tom Waits in the 70's, Tom Waits in the 80's, Tom Waits in the 90's, The Guy From TV on the Radio, Tom Waits in the 00's.

In chronological order.

>> No.1751659

NOT ENOUGH CHICKS, /LIT/

Patti Smith!
Joni Mitchell!

>> No.1751661

>>1751659
...maybe PJ Harvey too, now I think about it.

>> No.1751663

While it may make me sound like an uneducated fanboy, I say Eminem is among the top.

>> No.1751664

- Nick Cave
- Bob Dylan
- Tim Buckley
- Leonard Cohen
- Lou Reed

Bonus: Lee Ranaldo. Come at me brahs

>> No.1751670
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1751670

Joanna Newsom, Amanda Palmer, Colin Meloy

>> No.1751701
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1751701

Is there a reason why nobody has mentioned Jarvis Cocker yet? Is it because you're all too damn American?

>> No.1751728

>>1751518 + 10 lol, yeah she is sooo indie, for serious!

>>1751604 + 11

man aside from Dylan it is so hard to pick people, Dylan is beyond compare and so obviously the best, others that I think are good igeuss:

- all of the pre 60's boom folk singers

- Robert Johnson, at times eerie and scary yet so simplistic and true, though the fact that his singing is far more emotional than anyone ever could be disillusioning

- Neil Young, nothing terribly great but again so true to himself and too youth (his early stuff) his political messages lack depth though but I have a soft spot for the so canadian "helpless"

- Lennard Cohen + Tom Waits + Paul and John, unrelate-able totally, but beautiful none the less

- Jimi Hendrix, completely amateur, but so awsome

- the guy who writes songs for Elton

>> No.1751734

i forgot to mention ghostface, but ghostface

supreme clientele should be a canonical text

>> No.1751768

>>1751701
love jarvis

i got into carson mccullers because he quoted the opening lines of the member of the wedding on that one track off his first solo album

>> No.1751785

>>1751701

yes know, Joe Cocker is great Singer writer/Song !!!!

I his love "She Came into the bathroom Window" is so funny but is sad too

and "up here we belong" and "you are my so beautiful me" is great great sing writes

>> No.1751786

>>1751768
Is Carson McCullers any good? I live near the house where she wrote The Heart Is a Lonely Hunter.

>> No.1751795

>>1751786
one of my favorites. if your name is from to kill a mockingbird i bet a million bux you'd like the heart is a lonely hunter - mccullers was mad jelly of lee's success cuz she thought she was encroaching on her literary territory~

>> No.1751820

>>1751795
It's not from that book, actually, but I really love southern writers..I really love the south for all of its paradoxes and vulgarity. I grew up and live here, and honestly feel like it is culturally under-represented, if that makes sense.

>> No.1751824

I'm not sure Leonard Cohen should count... wasn't he a poet before he started singing?

>> No.1751826

>>1751785

i lol'd, Jarvis is a pussy

>> No.1751845

>>1751826

retracted b4 shitstorm, common people is pretty sweet

>> No.1751853
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1751853

berman for regular-good lyrics, malkmus for stoopid-good lyrics

>> No.1751854

>>1751701
I want to live like plebians, I want to do whatever plebians do, I want to sleep with plebians, I want to sleep with plebians like you.

>> No.1751856

>>1751845
Shitstorm averted! Lots of other songs are also pretty sweet, but I won't murder you over it.

>> No.1751862

>>1751845

assumed he was popular indie writer i guess, nice job in doing your research, common people was probably the first one to show on youtube, yes?

>> No.1751868

GG Allin, Billy Milano, Seth Putnam, JG Thirlwell and Masami Akita.

>> No.1751873

>>1751862
If you like Pulp, get on youtube and listen to Seconds if you haven't already. Oooooh it's good.

>>1751701
You have to love the fact that Jarvis is wearing his huge hipster glasses, posing intellectually, and holding a French dictionary.

>> No.1751882

Nick Cave
Michael Gira
Sean Bonette
Toby Driver, and the guy who wrote the lyrics for all of the motW/Kayo Dot releases which Toby didn't write lyrics for
John Darnielle

That's all I can think of at present.

go back to /mu/, mogwai

>> No.1751883

Trent Reznor.
Dennis Lyxzen
Jeffrey Moreira of Poison The Well
Tommy Rogers of Between The Buried And Me.
Ian MacKaye but pretty much only on Rites of Spring
The lyricist from City of Caterpillar too lazy to look up his name.

People will make fun of these I'm sure, but whatever, I'm not huge into music, I like what I like and accept that it's mostly shit.

>> No.1751963

Roger Clyne (Refreshments, Roger Clyne and the Peacemakers)
John Fogerty (CCR)
Neil Diamond
Ben Folds

>> No.1752289

bump

>> No.1752296

>>1751883
>Trent Reznor
hahahahah

My picks:
Leonard Cohen
Edward Ka-Spel
Michael Gira

>> No.1752300

>>1752296

Gira isn't that much better than Reznor.

>> No.1752307

>>1751883
>Ian MacKaye but pretty much only on Rites of Spring

confirmed for poser

review your 80s hardcore, please

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>>1751245

>Pat The Bunny.

Anyway:

Jeffrey Lewis
Pat The Bunny
Lou Barlow
Elliott Smith
Sean Bonette

>> No.1752313

1.) Bob Dylan
2.) Leonard Cohen
3.) Gordon Lightfoot
4.) Colin Meloy
5.) Paul Simon

>> No.1752315

>>1752300
Ha, what the fuck are you smokin' boy?

>> No.1752323

>>1752300
you gonna back up that statement or are you just another internet naysayer

>> No.1752330

In no particular order:

Bob Dylan
Maynard James Keenan (Tool)
Billy Joel
Syd Barret (Pink Floyd)
Janove Ottesen (Kaizers Orchestra(Norwegian band))

>> No.1752335
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1752335

>people thinking Pink Floyd have good lyrics

>> No.1752336

Dave Berman
Jimmy Pop
Joanna Newsom
Bob Dylan
Jeff Mangum

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>>1752335
>people don't understand music is subjective

>> No.1752342
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>>1752337
>thinking written lyrics are music

>> No.1752343

I TRIED TO HARD
AND GOT SO FAR
BUT IN THE END
IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTER

>> No.1752349

>>1752337
>this is honestly what naive people believe will defend their shitty taste

>> No.1752350

>>1752335
Eh, they're OK... I think their war lyrics tend to be best.

>> No.1752351
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>>1751622

Mobb Deep are great.

this is such a weird question for /lit/ because most of the music I like has little to do with the vocals, and the stuff with the best lyricists are all rappers.

KRS One, Slick Rick, Outkast, Mos Def, pretty much all of Wu particularly Gza, Bahamadia, MC Lyte, Biggie, Tribe, Posdnuos, Eric Sermon...

trying to include some new cats. Qwel, maybe? I don't enjoy him as much but his flow is pretty incredible.

for non rap lyrics, I love rock but none of it really compares, critically speaking. I'd have to go with Jimmy Van Heusen (wrote Sinatra's stuff) and i dunno, Gershwin. I guess X's John Doe and Exene were pretty good. I heard they met at a poetry workshop.

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>>1752351
>>1752351
Jay - Z (blue album)
De La Soul ( 3 feet high and rising)
tribe called quest (Low end theory, midnight marauders)
Ghostface (Fishscale, Ironman, Supreme Clientele)
Goodie Mob (Soul Food)
maybe Kanye, Dr Dre, Eminem, Nas & Public Enemy too..

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>>1752355
well, BB, I agree with you, and I have all your stuff, but for example, JayZ (I agree blue album--and black--is his best): Lyrically, he can hang with the greats, but honestly he's more second-string. but not all my picks are first-string either, but just that I personally enjoy them more "poetically," or whatever. Jay's a little cold, to me. That was the point I was trying to make with Qwel. He could battle anyone and win, I think, but not enjoyable.
Jay's beats really combine with the rap to make great music, though.

you're right about Nas and Chuck D, though. I should've mentioned them. Nas has the poetry and the flow, but Chuck's writing is pretty untouchable. I am of the mind that Kanye can't rap. Dre I love, but not lyrically. Em is awesome for first two LPs, then mountains of crap.

album in pic is actually super tight lyrically and beats-wise.

>> No.1752362

Beck, Leonard Cohen, Devendra Banhart, John Cale, David Bowie.

>> No.1752363
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>>1752361
>>1752361
you're right, Eminem died 10 years ago.
i think the best rappers lyrically for me are always gonna be Outkast, Andre3k is great, Illmatic by Nas is top-tier but didn't much like his other stuff. I'll have to download that album, much thanks
xoxo

for something less rap and more kinda hip-hoppy you can try Astronautalis or Buck 65 but i have a feeling they will not be up your ally, check a youtube vid or two

astronautalis - wondersmith and his sons
and anything by buck 65

>> No.1752365

>>1752351
Would you stick to your 'rap lyrics win' opinion even in the face of someone like... Mr Bob Dylan? Or Leonard Cohen? I'm just thinking that rap produces a greater density of lyrics vs. rock songs, which are usually simpler and often repetitive. But those two are examples of non-rappers with lots and lots and lots of words.

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>>1752365
>>1752365
quality over quantity, i think astronautalis has better lyrics than Bob Dylan
but that's just my opinion friend

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>>1752365
well, I greatly enjoy Bob. He'd already been shown a lot of love ITT so didn't see the need to mention him. All I know of LC is "Everybody Knows," which delivers the goods in spades. Neither of them is "rock" to me, though, and as for
>rock songs, which are usually simpler and often repetitive

well, yah. that's my point.

rap is necessarily denser, but those who can use that density to their advantage like those I listed are comparatively gonna come out on top.

I think we are more like-minded than not, sir.

>> No.1752376

This thead needs actual quotes. The thing is, lyrics often sound good because the song does, but when you see them written down they often look like horrible poetry fails. Obviously that's partly because they're written as lyrics, not poetry as such. But I figure that if the lyrics are good enough they should be able to overcome that and still come out lookin' good. Amirite?

>> No.1752379

>>1752376
agreed.

"You see, this thing called rhymin's
no different than coal minin'.
we both on assignment
to un-earth a diamond."

--Mos Def

>> No.1752380

>>1752374
Cool, I know what you mean. I've read the opinion somewhere that Bob invented rock music (as opposed to rock n'roll), but even if he did not many people were able to follow him lyrically. Anyhoo, I really should listen to more Outkast...

>> No.1752381

sorry I don't listen to music for the lyrics, much like how I don't watch football for the jersey colors or play video-games for the story

>> No.1752382

>>1752376

I remember you well in the Chelsea Hotel
you were famous, your heart was a legend
You told me again you preferred handsome men
but for me you would make an exception
And clenching your fist for the ones like us
who are oppressed by the figures of beauty
you fixed yourself, you said, "Well never mind,
we are ugly but we have the music"
-Leonard

>> No.1752396

Bob Dylan
Billy Joel
John Lennon(i guess McCartney too)
Brian May/Freddie Mercury(Queen)
uhhh John Fogerty,Robert Plant and since im anonymous i'll say Elton John too Also, Bruce Springsteen
Chuck Berry too

>> No.1752399

everyone post Bob Dylan, make me infinitely happy.
Bob Dylan. actually i cant think of anyone that compares.

>> No.1752404

For rap, maybe Pusha T, Bug Jus, Ghostface Killah (although maybe GZA, ODB or Method Man for early, early Wu Tang), MF Doom and Vass Aire.

Old rock; Neil Young, Dylan (i guess...), Gram Parsons, Bowie has occasionally done some good stuff, Gene Clark, Malkmus, I dunno...

Contemporary- The Wild Beasts' songwriters are writing pretty weird stuff in quite a cool way. The new Fleet Foxes' album acheived a lot lyrically. Maybe AnCo simply for the uniqueness of MPP.

>> No.1752406

>>1752376
>Not every song
In the wild cathedral evening the rain unraveled tales
For the disrobed faceless forms of no position
Tolling for the tongues with no place to bring their thoughts
All down in taken-for granted situations
Tolling for the deaf an' blind, tolling for the mute
For the mistreated, mateless mother, the mistitled prostitute
For the misdemeanor outlaw, chased an' cheated by pursuit
An' we gazed upon the chimes of freedom flashing.
-Dylan
>Can't fit the whole song

>> No.1752414

I go Paul Westerberg, Leonard Cohen, Paul Simon, Morrissey, uhhhh Rivers I guess. Also awesome: Berry/Buck/Mills/Stipe, and Moffat/Middleton (Philophobia is seriously such a good album).

Also, I specifically chose not to include rappers in this.

>> No.1752428

Springsteen,Curtis,Morrissey,Dylan,Bryan Ferry,Don McLean,Paul Simon,Paul Weller...

>> No.1752435

mfw skim the thread and don't see any hip hop straight away

fucking fags. all these wank ass 'lyricists' are like greetings cards compared to the actual poetry of rap

>> No.1752437

The best Australian song writers are Ron Hitler-Barassi and Humphrey B. Flaubert from a band called TISM (This Is Serious Mum)

>> No.1752439

>>1752435
did you not see all the posts where people are explicitly discussing rap.

>> No.1752448

Nick Cave
Claudio Sanchez
Trent Reznor
Bjork
Cedric Bixler-Bavlasnjfjbafburbara

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>>1751216
>>1752437
gtfo. gareth liddiard cunt

>> No.1752501

Dan Bejar (Destroyer). He quotes literature and refers to stuff like Camus and Ezra Pound, and plays with intertextuality, nicking lines from other famous songs and his own older songs and puts them in new contexts and stuff. It's pretty rad.

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>>1752501
>>1752501
Saaaaaaaamesies!

Dan Bejar
Casey Dienel
Patrick Stickles
Bradford Cox
Andrew Bird

>> No.1752524

>>1752513
I was behind BC in the supermarket checkout once. It was like 2am and he was acting kinda sketched out.

this was the edgewood retail Kroger in ATL, last winter of fall at earliest

>> No.1752573

Not strong, only aggressive, cause the power ain't directed
That's why, we are subjected to the will of the oppressive
Not free, we only licensed
Not live, we just excitin
Cause the captors.. own the masters.. to what we writin
Not compassionate, only polite, we well trained
Our sincerity's rehearsed in stage, it's just a game
Not good, but well behaved cause the ca-me-ra survey
most of the things that we think, do, or say
We chasin after death just to call ourselves brave
But everyday, next man meet with the grave
I give a damn if any fan recall my legacy
I'm tryin to live life in the sight of God's memory
-Mos Def (thieves in the night)

>> No.1752584

>>1752524
I went to ATL once and I was creeping around downtown p late hoping I might see him lurking somewheres but all I saw were black people
they were very friendly and I liked them

>> No.1752585

I bitch straight up, get in the car (Oh Shit!)
I'm the shit in the car
I do like Alfre-do, shit in your car
Pop-a-squat in the drop
Take a drop in the drop
While you dropping the top, unlocking your locks
Damn!

Cam'ron

>> No.1752743

>>1752435

rap is not poetry, its just cool rhymes with shallow meaning, case and point everything posted above. Sure a line or two might sound neat but there is hardly a greater understanding or anything that requires reflection, unless yer dum and gradeschool ideologies attack ya brain like a nigga insane yall

>> No.1752769

>>1752743
>rap is not poetry
Of course not. Lyrics are poetry. The lyrics of rap are poetry.

>its just cool rhymes with shallow meaning
Okay, bad poetry. Still poetry.

>> No.1752774

>>1752743
I'm casing as hard as I can, but what should I be pointing at?

>> No.1752778

>>1752743
also,
>paying any attention to meaning with regard to poetry

high schooler detected

>> No.1752786

>>1752778
Faggot who knows nothing about poetry detected.

>> No.1752789

>>1752786
Faggot who knows nothing about Deep&Edgy detected

>> No.1752829

>>1752789
Stupid tripfag who made his own laurels out through scissors-and-paper, and expects everyone to NOTICE the NAME detected.

>> No.1752837

>>1752829
>expects everyone to NOTICE the NAME detected
this is what jellymad anomanouses really think; that the name isn't noticed automatically

>> No.1752865

>>1752837
But, Deep Nedgy, isn't this contrary to your stupid cartoon about the tripfag who wants to be noted for his content rather than his name?

>> No.1752867

>>1752865
I can't help it if the name gets automatically noticed. Weak-willed anons should strive to ignore the name and focus on the content however, as exemplified by the copypasta.

>> No.1752880

>>1752774
brofist

>>1752584
lol, that's hilarious. I worked and lived downtown for years and was buddies with many of the local homeless dudes. during the day there's white folks (still in the minority, lol) because of all the gov't, business, and uni. At night, it's pretty dark out there, but if you're not weirded out by panhandling, everyone's usually real cool even if you don't give money. never had a serious problem.

needless to say, that ain't where Bradford Cox would be hanging out. He was weirded out at the grocery, he'd probably curl into the fetal position downtown.

>> No.1752888
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>>1752867

>> No.1752894

>>1752888
It's true though, he didn't know anything about me. That point would have remained entirely intact if I posted anonymously and substituted the word "Deep&Edgy" for "me". But of course, anon has to make a big deal out of it because it's a name.

>> No.1752907

>>1752894
You have no leg to stand on, here. You're saying this Anon should have noticed your name, but you're saying Anon should look beyond the name.

Which is it, chum? Your stupid semantics won't negate your idiotic contradiction.

>> No.1752914
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>>1752907
>You're saying this Anon should have noticed your name
Where did I say that?

>you're saying Anon should look beyond the name
Sure

>Your stupid semantics won't negate your idiotic contradiction.
see pic, you might want to study it in detail in fact

>> No.1752921

>>1752914
Saging to hide your shame.

>> No.1752922

>>1752914

I used to know you back at the University of Toronto.

>> No.1752923

>>1752921
nope

>> No.1752937

>>1752914
stopped reading at

>MORAL: SOMETHING IS VAGUE IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND IT

Look out OED: We have a new definition here! But wait, does this mean that it's now impossible to be vague in the original sense?

>> No.1752944

>>1752937
That's not a definition, that's a use. A definition would be more akin to saying "something is vague IFF you don't understand it"

>> No.1752955

>>1752914
hey d&e. here's the thing: people use those tactics because you have a particular way of arguing where it seems like you're only using everything you say as a stalking horse or a trap. you never seem really sincere in the arguments you make. it seems like you just present some partial, unexplained argument, so that someone will respond to it incorrectly and then you can BLOW THEM AWAY (in other words you're a troll, or maybe just honestly bad at engaging in discussion - and note also that you can be entirely sincere and a troll at the same time). even in cases where i agree with you i notice you doing this. And so people respond by saying that you're vague (because you really are, a lot of the time) or they say you're using semantics (because a lot of the time the arguments you're advancing are not in themselves valid, but are just kind of thrown off) or attempt to anticipate what your REAL argument is. it's because they're trying to dodge your BS traps. which allows you to call yourself smarter than them. i know you're aware of this and a troll and honestly i'm not sure why i'm typing all this, this is a bad messageboard pee pee doo doo

>> No.1752962

>>1752955
>even in cases where i agree with you i notice you doing this
I'd like you to point to one instance where I do this.

>> No.1753020

>>1752962
it was actually months ago, but i remember a time when there was an argument, i think, over whether something like a rule or instruction is in imperative (in the context of arguing about morality) - if i say to you "you should do x if you want to do y", is that an imperative or a moral statement? (i might be wrong on the details of the argument but that's what i seem to recall). and both of us agreed that it was a hypothetical imperative and there was something moral about it (again, i don't recall the specific argument, so i might have some details wrong) but your posts were just troll-tastic and it definitely seemed like you were baiting people to feel superior, not actually engaging in an argument.

>> No.1753194

>>1752448

I appreicate Sanchez's writing in SSTB and IKSSE:3. After that any band could play their songs and the concept wouldn't even factor in.

>> No.1753196

>>1753194

I had a seizure. Appreciate*.

>> No.1753242

Bob Dylan,Billy Joel,and Brian Wilson
i'm not surprised anymore how narcissistic the trips are on this board.They try to make every thread about them personally and the blindfolded anon delightfully and willingly steps into a unceasing blackhole of superficial identity crisis and semantic backtracking
and Bob Dylan again

>> No.1753260

>>1753020
>it was actually months ago, but i remember a time when there was an argument, i think

Again, I'd like you to point to one instance where I do this, not present unreliable memories.

>> No.1753283

Roger Waters
Jimi Hendrix
Bob Dylan
Jim Morrison
Greg Lake

>> No.1753296

>>1753283
the dadrock is strong in this one.

>> No.1753309

I don't even like rap music that much
Wu-Tang Clan
Notorious BIG
Organized Konfusion
Black Star
A Tribe Called Quest
Outkast
all have great lyricists

>> No.1753317

>>1753283
you forgot tom petty

>> No.1753318

>>1753296
>Dadrock
What a stupid term, it's just completely based upon the time period when a band performed.
When you group such bands like Vanilla Fudge and Buffalo Springfield into the same 'genre', you need to kill yourself

>> No.1753324

I realize this has probably been said a million times already, but I've been listening to Bob Dylan a lot this morning and he really is an amazing lyricist.
I'm also partial to Brian Fallon (of The Gaslight Anthem), Frank Turner, Scott Hutchinson (of Frightened Rabbit), Aaron Sprinkle, Aaron Marsh, the girls from Eisley, and Colin Meloy.

>> No.1753326

>>1753260

Is there any topic for a thread that you're not able to deconstruct into a greentext argument?

>> No.1753330

>>1753296
>tripfag
the attention whore is strong in this one.

>> No.1753334

>>1753317
Never really liked The Heartbreakers.

>> No.1754490
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Where is the love for I? Lonely, Lonely.....