/lit/ - Literature

>>17506242
Based real aristocrat BTFO'ing the pleb larper.

>>17506242
Nietzsche was the original fedore tipper

>anon BTFO again
>better spam the board with YET ANOTHER thread

>>17506242
>"the whole of his abuse of women is offered as self evident truth, it is not backed up by evidence from history or his own experience, which, so far as women were concerned, was almost confined to his sister"

absolutely savage lmao

My dear Russell,

I didn’t like your letter. What’s the good of living as you do, anyway. I don’t believe your lectures are good. They are nearly over, aren’t they?

What’s the good of sticking in the damned ship and haranguing the merchant-pilgrims in their own language. Why don’t you drop overboard? Why don’t you clear out of the whole show?

One must be an outlaw these days, not a teacher or preacher. One must retire out of the herd & then fire bombs into it. You said in your lecture on education that you didn’t set much count by the unconscious. That is sheer perversity. The whole of the consciousness and the conscious content is old hat—the millstone round your neck.

Do cut it—cut your will and leave your old self behind. Even your mathematics are only dead truth: and no matter how fine you grind the dead meat, you’ll not bring it to life again.

Do stop working & writing altogether and become a creature instead of a mechanical instrument. Do clear out of the whole social ship. Do for your very pride’s sake become a mere nothing, a mole, a creature that feels its way & doesn’t think. Do for heavens sake be a baby, & not a savant any more. Don’t do anything any more—but for heavens sake begin to be—start at the very beginning and be a perfect baby: in the name of courage.

Oh, and I want to ask you, when you make your will, do leave me enough to live on. I want you to live forever. But I want you to make me in some part your heir.

We have got to clear out of this house in a week’s time. We are looking for another house. You had better come & live near us : but not if you are going to be a thinker and a worker, only if you are going to be a creature, an infant …

My love to you. Stop working and being an ego, & have the courage to be a creature.

Yours,
Sneed. H. Lawrence

>>17506993
Whats this faggotry?

>>17506857
This isnt true though. Women loved Nietzsche.

>>17507190
didn't he spend his last years simping for some thot who friendzoned him

>>17506857
>his abuse of women
So Anglos were always cucks?

>>17507242
Funny that nietzsche returned to christian weakness because of his fear of women.

>>17506993
Is this the one that made him almost commit suicide or was it a comment made by Wittgenstein?

>>17506242
>y-you're just scared! stop being a bigot! phobic much??
All anglos are liberals and deserve to be put to the sword.

>>17507242
Yes, cuckholdry is an Anglo characteristic. Russell was the biggest cuck I know.

>>17507534
The absolute state of neetchfaggots.

>>17507542
Nietzsche advocated cucking as the best marriage.

>>17507554
all marriage is cuckery

>>17506993
is this famous Sneed known for feeding and seeding?

>>17507565
Cringe

>>17507518
>>17507554
>making shit up as he goes
It's time to stop posting.

>>17507607
>ignoring the quote that was spammed here for weeks

>>17506242
Got Russell not fundamentally sidelined while Nietzsche is still discussed today (mostly by asians, but still)?

>>17507836
Asians discuss Nietzsche? Where?

>>17507843
>what are universities

>>17507836
Being popular in the age of shit means _________

>>17507836
Lies.
Philosophies departments in my country(Pakistan) still circlejerk around Russel over neet.

If you discuss philosophy like it’s an anime battle your opinion so automatically disregarded into the trash

>>17507865
I didn't know Pakistan had books

>>17507857
There are more universities in Asia?

>>17507874
The BTFOing of NEETchuh is relentless. What happened to lit?

>>17506730
That's not Euhemerus

>Your ideal is a purely negative one, absence of suffering, which can be completely secured by non-existence. I, on the other hand, have positive ideals: I admire Alcibiades, and the Emperor Frederick II, and Napoleon. For the sake of such men, any misery is worth while. I appeal to You, Lord, as the greatest of creative artists, do not let Your artistic impulses be curbed by the degenerate fear-ridden maunderings of this wretched psychopath."
>Buddha, who in the courts of Heaven has learnt all history since his death, and has mastered science with delight in the knowledge and sorrow at the use to which men have put it, replies with calm urbanity:
>"You are mistaken, Professor Nietzsche, in thinking my ideal a purely negative one. True, it includes a negative element, the absence of suffering; but it has in addition quiet as much that is positive as it to be found in your doctrine. Though I have no special admiration for Alcibiades and Napoleon, I, too, have my heroes: my successor Jesus, because he told men to love their enemies; the men who discovered how to master the forces of nature and secure food with less labour; the medical men who have shown how to diminish disease; the poets and artists and musicians who have caught glimpses of the Divine beatitude. Love and knowledge and delight in beauty are not negations; they are enough to fill the lives of the greatest men that have ever lived."
>"All the same," Nietzsche replies, "your world would be insipid. You should study Heraclitus, whose works survive complete in the celestial library. Your love is compassion, which is elicited by pain; your truth, if you are honest, is unpleasant, and only to be known through suffering; and as to beauty, what is more beautiful than the tiger, who owes his splendour to his fierceness? No, if the Lord should decide for your world, I fear we would all die of boredom." "You might," Buddha replies, "because you love pain, and your love of life is a sham. But those who really love life would be happy as no one can be happy in the world as it is."
>For my part, I agree with Buddha as I have imagined him. But I do not know how to prove that he is right by any argument such as can be used in a mathematical or a scientific question. I dislike him Nietzsche because he likes the contemplation of pain, because he erects conceit into a duty, because the men whom he most admires are conquerors, whose glory is cleverness in causing men to die. But I think the ultimate argument against his philosophy, as against any unpleasant but internally self-consistent ethic, lies not in an appeal to facts, but in an appeal to emotions. Nietzsche despises universal love; I feel it the motive power to all that I desire as regards the world. His followers have had their innings, but we may hope that it is coming rapidly to an end.

>>17507607
>It's time to stop posting.

>>17507865
yeah if you study analytic philosophy at all you can't really avoid Russell, even though many of his ideas have been since been surpassed (mainly by people who built off of his work)

>>17507967
The entire analytic school, which is about half of modern philosophy, was basically founded by him and Wittgenstein

>>17507881
This is because you're an ignorant mutt.
Pakistan has a massive intellectual scene.

>>17508032
SEETHING

>>17508072
I always knew neetchfags were ptg.

>>17508120
Nah true Americhads recognize that USA is a transcendent force for good and freedom in the world and that we must work with allies who share our values to combat authoritarian regimes like Iran, Russia, Venezuela and China

>>17507883
I think he means there are more people in Asia period and therefore there are more people studying Nietzsche in Asia

>>17508501
is that edward towers

>>17509117
Impressive, very nice

>>17507865
In Japan, they all discover Nietzsche and pretend like he was hot shit

>>17508501
Cringe

>>17508032
Tell us more about the Pakistani intellectual scene, anon

>>17507527
Yeah, apparently DH Lawrence really cut him to the quick with his letter, the gist was that Russell was in fact a selfish egoist, with no real love for mankind, but only a self-aggrandizing social-justice kind of hellfire preacher. Sounds like DH Lawrence saw right through him.

>>17506242
That being said, also I find a false-dichotomy in the Buddha/Nietzsche argument in the courts of heaven, which is probably why God found both equally unconvincing, and hence left the world unchanged.

Buddha, though he won't admit it, only possesses moral greatness because suffering exists. Without lions there are no lion-tamers.

In truth, neither Nietzsche or Buddha are right, they have merely the same moral intuitions as two blind men out to discover what an elephant is; one has grasped the tusk and said that the elephant is fierce, the other, having gotten the trunk, says that the elephant is polite and sociable.

>>17510882
Good point, and gets to the heart of the problem with Nietzsche, something he even should have known: one cannot make a law of nature through his own limited experience.
The question is, why did he do this?

>>17507990
No wonder it's autistic garbage

>>17507946
Holy based

Jannies had to rescue neetch lmao
https://direct.warosu.org/lit/thread/S17504832#p17506178

>>17506857
I love where he says that most women would get the whip from him.th
Absolutely cucked.

>>17511657
Weird flex on Russell's part, being a literal cuck tho

>>17506242
Bap approves

>>17513132
Is there any truth to the rumor that bap is being brought on as domestic policy advisor for the Pompeo 2024 campaign?

>>17506857
Nietzsche literally says in BGE that he doesn't have much experience with women and to take his opinions on them with a pinch of salt. Every one of his 'arguments' is refuted in 2 seconds if you read him. But go on christfags, platofags, anglofags - make another 10 bait threads from butthurt, I'll continue laughing.

>>17514656
So nietzsche admits he 's a faggot and this is somehow a good thing?