/lit/ - Literature

>>17465952
Just read continentals and NRX. Kantbot is just repeating what they say.

Now if the NRX could stop being absolute retards with their prescriptions now that basically all their descriptions are realized, it would be nice.

>>17465974
>NRX
Cringe and Yikes

>>17465952
the twitter and politics meme. KEK

>>17465984
And yet their analysis of current american politics is spot on while the lefties are endlessly subverted and run around in circles being tools of the elites.

Yarvin can be cringe all you want, his meme phrases aren't getting popular consistently for no reason.

>>17465952
I don't get it, why are they confessing?

>>17466004
NRXers "analyze" politics the way palm readers "analyze" hands--offer generalities, then affirm specifics after they've already become common knowledge.

>>17466015
Yes anon, that's what philosophy is.
Are you a logical positivist or something?

>>17466013
i don't know, but kantbot has been naming the exact names that appear in that article for a long time, so i guess he must have been reading the right things, i want to read those too

>>17466013
>confessing
boasting, when you have power they let you do it, grab them by the pussy

>>17466015
Even if that were true, it’s a lot more than the left has accomplished.

>>17465952
How is burger politics related to literature?

>>17466015
You mean generalities like the specific conspiracy of this thread down to the very organizations and people? If that's ex-post-facto then 99% of the people this board reads are pure bullshitters.

>>17466049
The story goes like this: Earth is captured by a technocapital singularity as renaissance rationalitization and oceanic navigation lock into commoditization take-off. Logistically accelerating techno-economic interactivity crumbles social order in auto-sophisticating machine runaway. As markets learn to manufacture intelligence, politics modernizes, upgrades paranoia, and tries to get a grip.

>>17465952
That article proves that the entire left are lapdogs for capital and no amount of their whining about 'neoliberals' should ever be taken seriously, they're neoliberals' bitches.

>>17466049
it's not about politics, it's about understanding the correct history of the world we live in, who shaped it and who are the main players shaping it

>>17466059
nothing human survives the near future.

>>17466015
the point is kantbot named the exact names and organizations that now appear in this article, he didn't write generalities, i want to read the same books he did to understand who is who in current history

From the article:
>a well-funded cabal of powerful people, ranging across industries and ideologies, working together behind the scenes to influence perceptions, change rules and laws, steer media coverage and control the flow of information.
Complete mask off moment

>>17466087
then read his Twitter feed dumbass

>>17466013
They're bragging anon. They know they've won.

>>17466095
he only posts cryptic garbage lmao, i just want a list of books

>>17466026
all the specific organizations he names are well-known culprits to the conspiracy sphere. Pic related is a good read, I can also recommend "Revolution from Above" by Dr Kerry Bolton.
I disagree with his dismissal of cultural marxism as a concept, although it's wrong to say that the social change is caused by cultural marxism, it is just *is* cultural marxism.

>>17466116
forgot pic

>>17466013
Conspiracy confirmation goes like this
>that's insane, nobody is rigging elections
>anything that appears to be interference from us is a safeguard from the other side
>even if it was rigged, it was done to protect things
>>17466063
That really should've been obvious when "class reductionism" became a bad label for them. Or that they even cared about labels. This was probably a symptom of tranny growth in those spheres. They're the most obsessed with labels and their anima personas.

>>17465952
This guy is too much of a pussy to even admit that some populations of humans are dumber than others

>NOOOOOOO
>YOU CANT JUST ADMIT THAT PEOPLE WITH MONEY AND POWER WANT TO ELECT OFFICIALS WHO WILL BE KIND TO THEM IN TERMS OF POLICY
>NOOOOOOO
>YOU CANT ADMIT THAT THESE PEOPLE WILL USE THEIR MONEY POWER AND INFLUENCE TO GET THE MASSES TO VOTE FOR THE PEOPLE THEY WANT IN OFFICE
>I AM SO GOING TO IGNORE THAT POWERFUL PEOPLE DO THE SAME FOR MY POLITICAL PARTY AND ONLY TAKE ISSUE WITH THIS PRACTICE WHEN A DIFFERING POLITICAL PARTY DOES IT
Kid, anyone with a brain knows this is how politics works.

>>17466164
It's also a limited hangout. The article doesn't go into anything particularly dirty and paints it all in a reasonable light. Now people on one side can point to the confession and say "look I know there was a conspiracy, but it really doesn't sound that bad"

>>17466194
The article doesn't say anything about actual vote rigging. The funniest part is when it said that they put a leash on their BLM pets after the election

>>17466116
>>17466119
thanks. is it even a conspiracy? seems like all this shit is basically on the open and they boast about it, it's just a "conspiracy" if you decide to put it all together

>>17466186
yes, as a generality, but he seems to have been naming the correct specific names, it's about getting specific accurate knowledge about the world we live in, just generalities don't go anywhere and are very easy to deflect

>>17466211
lmao, 2 billion dollars in damages to the american middle class that could have been deactivated at any time by a zoom call with "the left"

>>17466223
"conspiracy" is a dumb word used to delegitimize people and viewpoints imo.

>>17465952
Democrats are Marxists

>>17466244
But anon, they were just fiery - but peaceful! - protests

tl;dr of the article?

The notion that it is a conspiracy is erroneous, it is merely a consequence of certain systems, techniques and ideologies prevalent in the organization, representation, dissemination and aggregation of data.

>>17466004
Their stuff is fun to read for sure but it's not like any of them have any single idea of what to do or how to improve things. The blackpill is the final pill for them accurately enough.

>>17466396
whatever it is, i just want to read books that will tell me the names of the guys running it

>>17466388
basically this paragraph at the beginning is the summary:

>There was a conspiracy unfolding behind the scenes, one that both curtailed the protests and coordinated the resistance from CEOs. Both surprises were the result of an informal alliance between left-wing activists and business titans. The pact was formalized in a terse, little-noticed joint statement of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and AFL-CIO published on Election Day. Both sides would come to see it as a sort of implicit bargain–inspired by the summer’s massive, sometimes destructive racial-justice protests–in which the forces of labor came together with the forces of capital to keep the peace and oppose Trump’s assault on democracy.

so nothing we didn't know, money interests and left wing NGOs and whatever are on the same side and team up to stop le ebin fascism

>>17465974
>Kantbot
>NRX
His takes have been very much Marxian for the past year.

>>17466004
It is really not. It is mostly vague and somewhat obvious. Honestly, I find NRx somewhat appealing but so insufferable. The face people of that collective are just so lame and obvious pseuds that it pains me to give them any credibility whatsoever. It’s like crypto-right wing astrology spewed by the most verbose and obnoxious kid in your computer science class.

>>17466411
the worst thing they openly say is that they could have deactivated the BLM protests at any time with a zoom call

>>17466411
thanks, I'm glad I didn't read it

>>17466419
Those are entirely compatible in my view.

>>17466410
>the names of the guys running it
Irrelevant, they are all interchangeable and not really required at all. The "conspiracy" is autonomic and faceless.

>>17466421
>It’s like crypto-right wing astrology spewed by the most verbose and obnoxious kid in your computer science class.
Based

>>17466026
What’s crazy is you guys think Kantbot is like the first person to ever name these or something. They have been common knowledge for decades.

>>17466421
BPD_GOD was the only truly dynamic and forward looking personality from that entire collective/cabal but sadly she was banned from twitter a long time ago for being too based.

>>17466434
if it's nameless why does kantbot name the right names that have been confirmed now?

>>17466434
Dumb take. Powerful organizations should be in the public spotlight. It's shocking how few people have even heard of the Council on Foreign Relations

>>17466439
i don't think he is the first or anything, he has to have read it somewhere, not pulled it from his ass, i'm asking about those books. if it's so obvious why is everybody talking about neomarxists rather than about those guys

>>17466445
The demographical tidbits are in order to demonstrate the information theory complex that enables them and their actions.

>>17466457
These guys are the "neomarxists". Marxism has never been a grassroots phenomenon. Even the Russian Revolution was funded by bankers like Jacob Schiff

which is cringier
dark enlightenment
or
intellectual dark web

>>17466059
go to bed, nick.

>>17466457
>neomarxists
If you mean the progressive idpol stuff, the article is openly stating that they clearly control those people. It's one of their main ways of psyopping the public and getting compliance.

>>17465952
I wish this fat fuck would just release a list of the books he’s read, he posts a bunch of books and just lazily writes “nothing is at it seems”. Not to mention the overly long podcasts.

>>17466489
First one still has sort of a le sekrit klub feeling, the second one is too normie and Peterson is just a complete embarrassment now

This is a disgusting gloat that shows how out of touch the elite are. Win the election by any means? Fine, whatever. Rub it in peoples’ faces? Just more gas in the fire. Pity.

>>17466186
I find it more interesting the media considers an election "saved" as though it's pure, merely because its outcome aligns with the forces within that organization.

kantbot has posted reading lists repeatedly lol

>>17466512
Why is Peterson an embarrassment? The current saga of him vs gaslighting journalists is pretty revealing

>>17466527
all I can find by searching for kantbot reading lists is philosophy and classic novels, does he have a reading list for NWO shit?

>>17465952
Lmao this dude

>>17466547
GERMAN IDEALISM

>>17466632
tfw Kant and Hegel are cancelled for being dumb HBD reactionaries

>>17466647
ARRESTED FOR THINKING ABOUT THE N-WORD TOO MUCH

>>17466547
such a little baby face. even that one little tooth sticking out at the top of his smile is perfectly baby.

>>17466672
>>17466666

>>17466547
I guess physiognomy is real.

>>17466026
the first tweet is also deliberate psyop because it's slyly omitting the rockefeller foundation

>>17466244
now adjust the previous dollar amounts for inflation

>>17466702
it says rockefeller foundation

>>17466410
you don't need books anon it's all publicly available data. they don't even try to hide because they correctly assume that practically nobody will ever follow up on anything

>>17466716
nice try FBI

>>17466710
The image already does this

>>17466059
kino.

>>17466719
Books are still handy though, it's nice to have all that publically available data compiled into a single thing

>>17466732
He did leave out some organizations though, CFR, WEF, Tavistock, Stanford Research Institute...

>>17466244
how much of that was nigs?

>>17466752
I would think that is included under the catch-all "Neoliberal think tanks".

>>17466822
true, but it's always good to be aware of what those think tanks are

>>17465952
As someone who just wants to watch americans eat one another alive what does the article allude to?

>>17466512
>>17466489
>dark enlightenment
doesn't even exist, it's just Land's essay, nobody has called themselves dark enlightenment ever lol

>>17466509
yes, his twitter is garbage, but he seems to be on the right track
>>17466527
so just link one of those lists?

>>17466869
just read it
https://web.archive.org/web/20210205034403/https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/?amp=true

>>17466702
>omitting
what? it's there

>>17466719
articles are fine too, but a curated list could be nice, no need to re-investigate all this by myself if somebody already did the work before

>>17466772
who cares who were the losers on the street doing the dirty work? the point is that whoever it was, the losers were deactivated as soon as those organizations made a zoom call with "the left"

>>17466869
>As someone who just wants to watch americans eat one another alive

I used to feel this way, but the whole thing got boring ages ago. Modern US politics is a giant circlejerk of everyone whining that they're oppressed victims.

I avoid US media now to get away from it, but international media still persists in telling us all about wacko minor US politicians. Americans know nothing about politics in any other country, so why do we have to hear so much about theirs

https://www.spiked-online.com/2021/01/29/the-billionaire-takeover-of-civil-society/

This is relevant reading for this thread, lists a bunch of funding webs for NGOs

>The Omidyar Network
Omidyar, whose Omidyar Network funds AELP, also funds the Democracy Fund which is now part of Omidyar Group (1). The Democracy Fund, in turn, together with the Knight Foundation, Quadrivium, the McArthur Foundation and Luminate (also funded by Omidyar) fund Democracy Works (2). Omidyar also funds Democracy Fund Voice, which in turn contributes to Defending Democracy Together (3). Then there is Healthy Democracy which is funded by the Democracy Fund, Silicon Valley Community Foundation (which also receives money from Democracy Fund) (4) and the Ford Family Foundation. The Omidyar Network also co-funds New Public by Civic Signals, along with the Knight Foundation, One Project, the National Conference on Citizenship and the University of Texas at Austin, Centre for Media Engagement. Of course, the University of Texas at Austin, Centre for Media Engagement is also funded by the Omidyar Network, the Democracy Fund (funded by Omidyar), the Knight Foundation, Robert McCormick Foundation, and Google. To name just a few others, the Ada Lovelace Institute also receives funding from Luminate, the Wellcome Trust and Nuffield Foundation, while TicTec, a MySociety event about ‘civic tech’, is funded by Facebook, Luminate and Google, among others.

>>17466955
to be fair, americans know nothing about politics in their own country. the reason you have to know is because your countrymen hitched themselves to america for profit and every one follows along ass to mouth.

>>17466380
There should have been more fire. People are too tamed and domesticated.

>>17466935
You might enjoy And The Truth Shall Set You Free by David Icke. It's from before he started talking about reptiles, it's actually a fairly dry overview of the globalist system circa the mid-90s

>>17466963
>Luminate
hell of a name

>>17467025
Yeah they should have set fire to idk, the fed, or maybe an investment bank. Curious how nothing like that happened

>>17467026
What about Ryan Dawson?

>>17466963
there is a Ford Family Foundation which seems to be a charity for rural communities in Oregon...
And then a Ford Foundation that is explicitly about "disrupting systems to advance social justice".
I think you probably mean Ford Foundation, not Ford Family Foundation?

>>17467041
Never heard of him, looks like good reading. Thanks!

>>17466945
Right, they're completely co-opted. The riots' energies were channeled directly into meaningless objectives ("stop killing us" has no immediate policy demands), support for privatized policing, obliterating small businesses to make space for international corporations, voting blue no matter who, dumping money into think tanks and NGOs, providing jobs for upwardly mobile wealthy minorities and seeding racial consciousness while smashing down on class consciousness.

It's disgusting in it's ruthless inhumanity but sometimes I have to admire how perfectly this sector of the capitalist class has rendered the mainstream "left" into an anticommunist, reactionary force.

>>17467050
That's from the article, I didn't write it. But she really could be talking about the Ford Family Foundation, the point is that there are layers upon layers in this web of little meme organizations that the money is filtered through. Some little charity in Oregon wouldn't necessarily be out of place in such a structure.

>>17466013
ppl say they're boasting but I know these types. They genuinely believe euphemisms are reality. When they say "influenced the electoin by enacting certain laws and refusing to enforce others" that doesn't sound like rigging to them.

>>17467079
also obliterating middle class business, in case the pandemic rules weren't enough and some businesses still survived somehow

>>17467039
It's not curious at all. BLM founders were suicided were they not? And the label was then taken over by the ruling class with it's many think tanks and corporate advertising schemes. All attention was turned away from challenging power, all eyes distracted from a confrontation with the state's racketeers, in favor of shitting up the local neighborhood and making space for affluent white liberals to ritualistically relieve their boredom and guilt before assuming their place in the power hierarchy.

>>17466013
They're bragging.

>>17467109
>were suicided
Were they?

The entire existence of BLM seems like a psyop to me in the first place, idk why they'd need to be taken over unless they started out as some kind of actually transgressive radicals.

>>17466026
Despite being a somewhat poor name, if you take "Cultural Marxism" to mean "vaguely New Leftish things advocated for by the Ford Foundatoin, Carnegie Foundation, Rockefeller Foundation, etc." you'd still be accurate.

>it's all friggin Neoliberal Psyops bro!
Okay, but what would Real Communism in a Western country do differently that makes it desirable over rule by neoliberal think tanks?
>reverse third-world immigration
Nope.
>reverse disparate impact legislation
Nope.
>cut civil servant pensions
Nope.
>merit-based hiring in the civil service and academia
Nope.
So-called Real Communists agree with Neoliberals on a large number of harmful policies and they're both egalitarians.

>>17467137
Why is cultural marxism a bad name? It seems like a pretty good description of the idea of various blocs of identity groups being oppressed by other identity groups

>>17467099
Nah I mentioned that. Capital will always gobble up capital, gotta make way for their big time donors to set up (another) shop!

>>17467125
There was a rash of these but I would be lying if I said that I fully remembered all the details beyond sketchy deaths. I do think BLM is controlled opposition but that it potentially could have transcended that, which is it had to be muzzled in the first place.

If black people remain disorganized rabblerousers and troublemakers in the eyes of enough white people, if white people look complicit in a system of exploitation and oppression to enough black people and if enough of every American demographic is distracted from the knowledge that the law knows only one and it's fucking green; then the machine can continue to grind it's gears. It gets gummed up when people stop dividing themselves into small groups. There is a good reason why the US government feared Fred Hampton.

>>17467148
cause the people running it are basically a hereditary oligarchy of meta-capitalists, as in they are so rich they don't even play the normal capitalist game anymore, they socially engineer countries and the global economy instead

>>17467137
This is why I can never go left wing despite being completely anti-capitalist.
They refuse to accept things like stopping low skilled third worlders being used to depress wages and end worker solidarity because of the 19th century insistence of it being a global ideology - in a time when actual globalism wouldn’t have been conceived and with have been rejected outright.

>>17467162
Wrt BLM leaders being suicided even Tim Pool talked about it on his newscast.

>>17467137
yes, i think kantbot spoke at some point that it was also those same organization founding Russian communism because they hated the Tzar and wanted to incorporate russia into the global anglo empire, so in a sense it is communists, but in another sense it is not communist at all, just an upper layer of capitalists that usually is pulling the strings wherever communism appears

>>17467148
Most New Left thought isn't really grounded in class struggle and analysis of economic data. They basically pivoted towards victimary politics as a reaction to Nazism while still being able to position themselves against the USSR for being "authoritarian". With that said, Marxists and the New Left agree on a lot of points because they're both egalitarians. If Fascism was a reaction to Communism, the New Left was a reaction to fascism.

>>17467191
>global anglo empire
hmm anglos you say

>>17467191
All governments are oligarchies, even Communist ones. What matters is how well they rule. The world has been suffering from shit government for quite awhile now because of the dominance of egalitarian worldviews leading to dumb choices - though much of our moral discourse is driven by reaction to Nazism, it is probable that a larger number of people were killed, and a number of countries slated for major degradation of quality of life, in the name of equality.

>>17467191
American capitalists and big banks dumped tons of money into Lenin's movement.

>>17467125
no lol blm is pure government op

>>17467222
I think it's a lot more likely that egalitarian ideologies were fed to the public for various reasons by the oligarchies. Democracy is clearly a fantastic method of getting the proles to hate each other instead of the elites, it literally creates a constant low level civil war for them, feminism is another great one, racism/antiracism doesn't even have to be mentioned.

>>17467222
is it egalitarian though? it's clear those foundations are socially engineering countries and they don't care about your input, democracy and egalitarianism is just a tool to manufacture consent

>>17467222
as widespread as it might appear, i really don't feel egalitarian ideology has done much to affect oligarchic rule and yet they've been ruling shitty regardless. it seems to me that they've secured their bag very well.

>>17467222
>All governments are oligarchies, even Communist ones.
I don't think so, I understand the problem with Communist governments to be a need for a centralized system to control the economy : one party, as it were. This is pretty central to Communism. Even crime ends up entangled in this system, which is one of the big flaws with Communism. Von Neumann was correct when he said Communism is a one-party game.

Oligopolistic rule, when clear, is ideal. The problem with democracies is you end up with many different clandestine loci of control, as opposed to honest, open, and clear mentalities/philosophies governing people.

>>17467222
>>17467274
the egalitarianism has just been used to deactivate and weaken the middle classes, has not affected anybody with actual power

>>17467222
Nonsense, egalitarianism was never ever the objective of the ruling class. That's something they use to cloak their naked greed and racketeering. They have sucked up enough wealth to sustain their dynasties for dozens of generations to come all at the expense of the working and poor who will be left with a rotting husk of a planet. The trends are very clear. Wealth extraction on an international scale by an entire class of people, further isolation within well guarded pockets by that class and the promotion of superstition, obedience and divisive identity within the proletariat.

They merely use the language of egalitarianism and democracy when they can turn it towards justifying the obliteration of these things.

>>17467295
but communism is not honest about who is in power either, they have always to go through the theater of "we are the representative of the people working in your stead", rather than just rule and take responsibility for their rule

>>17467310
It's still necessarily, by design, one party.

With a lot of corrupt shit intermingled as well. I'm not saying either Democracy or Communism is a good alternative, I think Schumpeter, with his Austrian Socialism is on the right path.

>>17467240
I've never bought these types of argument - in non-democratic countries the citizens are mostly fine with the elite provided they do an acceptable job. What's the counterfactual here?
>If they don't keep the proles angry at each other they could come together and do a Real Communism!
Ok, but the same people in charge now would probably manage to lead the Party, so not much would change for them.

If they didn't believe their own rhetoric, why do things like greenlight female troops in the army? Everyone knows women are physically weaker than men and can't be expected to meet military fitness standards, but the US is doing it anyway. Why constantly lower academic standards so that victim groups can meet them? Are these things that a rational superpower trying to stay in power would do? Doesn't seem so to me. maybe there is a 6d chess plan here but I doubt it.

>>17467345
>>17467240
https://voca.ro/1iaY93kNXybq

:3

>>17467345
Bread crumbs thrown at a starving man from a baker. These identity oriented scraps are intended to keep people docile in terms of economics and active in terms of identity; which serves to undercut both class unity and an awareness of power. Worse than blinding people to the power that be, it actively encourages the myth that the average american can one day become a meaningful part of it.

Identity politics is Horatio Alger for a new era.

>>17466244
That's it.
I'm thoroughly convinced now: niggers are a bioweapon.

>>17466380
>>17466244
Retard. Those were events that were completely justified. Would you rather have them sit inside and let cops continue their violent pervertions?

>>17466514
Out of touch?
They won it fair and square retard, read the article. They did nothing objectable.

>>17467616
you're the cop lel

>>17466544
>>17466914
https://twitter.com/KBULTRA0/status/1356199251605417984

one of many

>>17467616
>cops continue their violent pervertions
The funny thing is that those are, for all intents and purposes, fiction.
Delusions from another component of this system of control, the media, whom only reports on disgustingly violent abuse when it fits their racial narrative.
Were you in the Soviet Union you'd probably say that the people who lynched the kulaks were entirely justified because the narrative Pravda fed you, even once you filter the obvious lies, still vindicates them for rebelling against the tyranny of capitalism.

Kantbot may be a lolcow but he's right about one thing: all discourse is psyops now.

>>17467576
>now

>>17467659
>Kantbot may be a lolcow but he's right about one thing: all discourse is psyops now.

this is literally like 99% of what he says lol

>>17467634
What?

>>17467659
Except that police violence is a THING. How hard is it to get that through your skull?
You can tell what you just said to just another black person who was profiled because of his skin colour by police. These things HAPPEN. Otherwise there wouldn't be such an outrage against it..

>>17467681
>Otherwise there wouldn't be such an outrage against it..
oh no no no no

>>17467197
That's what makes it cultural marxism instead of orthodox marxism. Instead of economic oppression, they look at societal / linguistic / whatever oppression.

>>17467681
Violent crime is also a THING

>>17467696
>the media pays attention to it therefore it's all contrived by them, please disregard the fact that the rioting is done by the poor underclass of n*ggers they're just criminals ok?

>>17467681
look up police killings by race and then come back and tell us how the outrage isn't manufactured on falsehoods

>>17467659
has kantbot read baudrillard?

>>17467163
the hereditary oligarchy has pushed Marxism from the beginning

>>17467713
Again... If you're poor and black that's the last thing you want to hear; "check these stats, stop complaining".

Do you deny that racism is a problem in the Western world? If so then I don't think there's much debate around your privileged position in life.

>>17467681
police are more likely to kill a perp if he's white in a given police encounter

>>17466059
Cringe

>>17467681
>Except that police violence is a THING. How hard is it to get that through your skull?
Oh it is, the US Police is a bunch of violent thugs.
But nobody who has read the figures and how they are cooked can, with a straight face, tell me that it has anything to do about race. You're likely among those that don't know how cooked they are since you seem so earnest.

>These things HAPPEN. Otherwise there wouldn't be such an outrage against it..
This is so laughable a cope I can barely resist the urge to mock it. But I know people would like this to be true, that all the media agitation and violence isn't senseless, that the civic religion of the United States isn't a total lie.

But it is. All that damage, all those lives lost, it's all nothing but a cynical ploy by powerful people to stay in power. As all of history is.

>>17467737
the black man will always be used as a battering ram against the white man.

>>17467737
Do you deny that white people are systematically discriminated against in the modern western world?

>>17467737
im poor and black and the last thing I want to hear is "you're not capable of looking at stats and reaching logical conclusions"

>>17467681
>These things HAPPEN
A lot of things happen, but media points out only certain things. When was the last time American liberals organized a peace march for all the kids their army kills? That outrage is completely manufactured. More importantly it is misdirected by the media to be ineffectual because the people that could actually do something about it are basically democratic mayors, senators and misc. bureaucrats. But better to burn down an AutoZone than protest at your local state Capitol.

Death to America!

name a better twitter user -- I'll wait

>>17465952
>>>/pol/

>>17467737
And there you have it, the reflex deployment of the motte and bailey. The enormous effort to derail the conversation into the racial weeds. I bet it's not even conscious.

Americans truly are mindkilled.

>>17466343
>imagine thinking this

>>17467751
>tell me that it has anything to do about race

Denying that institutional racism exists in a country built on segregation laws and slavery is just ridiculous.
Kindly, please stop talking and just lurk the thread instead if this conversation is too hard for you. You might actually learn.

>>17467794
Notice the shift onto "institutional racism", the unfalsifiable reifying force similar to capitalism or the patriarchy, instead of delving into any sort of concrete observations.

Pure ideology.

>>17467781
I've encountered your lot in real life discourse and you aren't as savvy as you think. When presented with the fact that, in Europe, Muslims are still discriminated against, proving that racism is inherently present in society, beyond remarks and strange looks, you cower because your "racism doesn't exist" reductionism is disproven.

What matters is that the motives behind hurting POC are very clear and your lot refuses to acknowledge it. Your lot has also been proponents or just straight oblivious of laws that hurt POC.

>>17467794
>Denying that institutional racism exists in a country built on segregation laws and slavery is just ridiculous.
It's really not if they overturned the laws allowing for racial discrimination and have actually basically reversed the process with affirmative action.

>>17467813
>What matters is that the motives behind hurting POC are very clear
What are they?

>>17467803
Institutional racism doesn't exist, you say?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institutional_racism#In_housing_and_lending

>>17467813
You know what's funny anon, I'm a French muslim and I can tell you first hand the so called racism anglo-americans like to invoke is complete and utter bullshit that they like to believe to further the idea that their racialized society has any sort of leg to stand on.

But yeah sure keep "whitesplaining" to me.

>>17467824
Racism, discrimination, xenophobia/islamophobia. Meant to uphold whiteness/western hegemony which is being chipped away at (rightfully so) to make place for equal playing ground.

>>17467813
EUROPE FOR EUROPEANS

>>17467826
Are you unable to comprehend the difference between existence and falsifiability?

>>17467834
Those aren't "very clear" motives at all, they're just a string of buzzwords. "Discrimination" is not a motive

>>17467834
Should Anglo-Saxons be on an even playing ground with native Japanese in Japan?

>>17467813
Why don't you go back to your homeland where you will have the privilege of the majority?

>>17467849
It is a tool which serves a motive. I know this is a hard thinking exercise to tackle but the proponents (or silent permitters) of racism and discrimination are always the people who assume they a blud und boden methodology to how they view politics, whereas everyone has the right to live where they please in the current climate.

>>17467868
>everyone has the right to live where they please in the current climate
And this isn't imperialism how?

>>17467867
?

>>17467858
>more whataboutism
We're talking about the West. It has ex-colonials living in it as well as people imported to serve as cheap labour. The West must learn to accomodate these newcomers and get its head out of its ass because muh ethnic supremacy will only lead to instability and conflict.
One can always say "yeah what if we kick the crybabies out?"
that's 1) impossible and 2) you just show the world your true face, GL doing business with MeNa and African countries then.

>>17467867
Europe doesn't belong to white people or "native" Europeans. It belongs to anyone who wants to move there and has gone through the legal process to do so.

>>17467894
Land belongs to people who can take and defend it by force.

>>17467894
>>17467883

>>17467894
This is disgusting disregard of European peoples and culture
>>17467892
Yet when Europeans move to Africa its called evil colonialism

>>17467892
Hell yeah muh whataboutism. You didn't answer the question, which makes me think you do NOT think Anglo-Saxons should have an equal playing field with native Japanese in glorious Nippon. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Why doesn't Israel treat non Jewish people or non Ashkenazi Jews equally?

>>17467868
If an employer prioritizes hiring people of color, is that discrimination against white people?

>>17467908
Do you not understand the historical context?
What happened in Rhodesia, South Africa, etc?
That was peaceful immigration? There were literal apartheid laws you imbecile, they went there with different intent.
There is no collective effort of "n*ggers" to overtake the West, and your rightoid ass knows of it too: admitting you think that would mean you view them as organized.

>>17467708
and black people are more likely to commit violent crimes because...?

>>17467892
you mean like this lel
https://www.newsweek.com/israel-deport-african-migrants-jail-time-thousands-infiltrators-768645
>Israel will begin issuing notices to thousands of African migrants, warning them they must leave the country by April or face jail time, the Ministry of Interior announced Tuesday.
>Migrants will be given around $3,500 to leave Israel and can choose to go to their home countries or to a third country, Israeli officials said. The government will also close the Holot detention center, where more than 1,000 Eritrean and Sudanese refugees are held awaiting deportation.

https://www.jpost.com/national-news/eritrean-migrants-resettled-from-israel-to-sweden-337414
>Eritrean migrants resettled from Israel to Sweden

>>17467918
>which makes me think you do NOT think Anglo-Saxons should have an equal playing field with native Japanese in glorious Nippon. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Who holds the world hegemony?

>>17467930
You're trying to dismantle our culture because of "white privilege" and force "diversity" on it when you are a guest in our country

>>17467930
>things are only real when they're organized
>in a thread about a decentralized faceless conspiracy

>>17467938
Those are recent migrants.
My country, Belgium, has 3rd generation Moroccans and Africans, as well as european people from italy and netherland. Should 3rd generations of brown people be deported? why? they don't even have citizenship in their country of origin anymore.

As I said: deporting citizens is impossible.

>>17467943
Only the harmful aspects yes, to accomodate for minorities.

>>17467982
I don't think they should be deported no. But what about the 100s of thousands of migrants that came in the 2010s?

>>17467942
What kind of faggot answers a direct yes-or-no question with a different question? Tell me whether or not you think Anglo-Saxons should have an equal playing field with native Japanese in Japan, then I'll answer whatever you want

>>17467982
>Only the harmful aspects yes
Like what?

>>17467988
What about them?

>>17467990
What's your point even?
People are going to view things as different depending on their background, culture, upbringing etc.
Anglo Saxons already have an equal playing field in Japan.

>>17467769
Kantbot hasn't been /pol/ for a very long time.

>>17467994
Black Pete is a racist Dutch/Belgian tradition. It breeds racism in children further prolonging the racialist bias in our society.

>>17467894
africa doesn't belong to black people or "native" africans. It belongs to anyone who wants to move there and has gone through the legal process to do so.

>>17467995
Can they be deported back to their countries like Israel does?

>>17467995
>Anglo Saxons already have an equal playing field in Japan.

lol no. even koreans are discriminated against there, let alone whites

>>17468007
What I've always thought funny about Black Pete is that it's absolutely disgusting to anglo progressive sensibilities because muh minstrel shows but I see absolutely no reason for it to be racist in any way. If anything it's exactly as zany as the old beardy man he rides with.
But no, can't have any sort of black people caricatured anywhere, that's racism for some reason.

The fourth estate is a fifth column.
In other news water is wet and jews own you.

>>17468025
Hundreds of thousands?
Yes, but it is very costly and.... why would you do that?

>>17468026
Okay, then that should change.
Done.

>>17468039
Why does Israel do it?

>>17468031
>an obvious master/servant (with the servant being a caricature of a black person with complementary jiving behavior) relationship instilled from childhood surely doesn't hurt anyone!

One can only think that if they're white.

>>17468039
>that should change
Why?

>>17468059
They are built on Western imperialism. Makes sense?

>>17468007
What's racist about it?

>>17468060
Not only am I not white, this sort of fictional predisposition thinking has literally zero evidence behind it. It's all based on the intuitions of people retarded enough to believe in Sapir Whorf.

>>17468060
Do you think advertisements showing mixed-race couples influence people to get into more interracial relationships?

>>17468079
>>17468060

>>17468063
Because it decreases the quality of life for everyone involved.
Imagine actively hating minorities.

>>17466090
Do they actually use the word cabal?
Jesus christ

>>17468082
fuck man is this guy whitesplaining to you? wtf. back off colonizer

>>17468084
I doubt they make much difference at all, it is really, really hard to psyop people about their sexual preferences, which are like lizard-brain level impulses.

>>17468084
I don't think about it. Maybe that's the problem with zany racists, seeing subliminal messaging in every aspect of life?

And even if that were true, why do you care? Just teach your children to hate n*ggers if you don't want them to mix.
What's wrong with mixed marriage anyways? Genuine question, but I suspect I might not get a genuine answer here.

>>17468101
homosexuality and transgenderism have absolutely exploded in the last few decades

>>17468089
Imagine thinking group cohesion isn't a necessary part of a healthy human society.
You're the sort of oversocialized midwit who thinks he's smarter than tradition and instincts because of a newfangled theory of human behavior that hasn't even been tested.
This shit was excusable in the XXth century, but now you really ought to know better.

>>17468082
I still believe things like Sapir Whorf hypotheses and critical theory are useful ways to look at the world.

>>17468101
birth control got back into the water supply.

>>17468104
You're thinking about it now that we're talking about it. Do you think it's the case? I ask because you (or some likeminded anon) was suggesting that Black Pete subliminally enforces the idea that black people are inferior.

Some people dislike mixed-race breeding because it erodes the borders between ethnic groups and generally makes the world a less diverse place.

>>17468112
>Imagine thinking group cohesion isn't a necessary part of a healthy human society.
Let's all work together like a single cohesive unit then, rather than warring tribes divided by skin colour.

>>17468124
>suggesting that Black Pete subliminally enforces the idea that black people are inferior
Except that it does?
The point is merely that it reinforces the idea that those things are normal. Companies are always limpwristed in their approach and would never have dared to have a mixed baby on their advertisements in the 50s, but now they do.

>>17468134
So the world can be a giant homogenous blob where the only differences between two locations are wildlife and weather?

>>17468134
Funny, that's Universalism. Exactly the French ideal that is so utterly despised by anglos because it's racist against Muslims for some reason.

>>17468124
>generally makes the world a less diverse place
This is bad why?

>>17468141
Debatable that it does, I'm just explaining why I brought up mixed-race couples in advertisements. You still haven't answered whether you think it increases the number of mixed-race couples in reality.

>>17468149
Kek nice attempt at hyperbolizing what I said.
What is wrong with it? Answer pls.

>>17468160
>You still haven't answered whether you think it increases the number of mixed-race couples in reality
Honestly, does it matter? People nowadays are free to do as they choose and it's not really likely that an advertisement will make you look out people of another ethnic group. The chances are higher that you'll stumble upon someone and get down to fucking regardless of their ethnicity.

>>17468174
i choose whites. the culture wants to prevent whites from seeking out other whites

>>17468154
Personal preference.

>>17468165
It's not a hyperbole of what you said, it's the inevitable end conclusion of that philosophy.

>>17468174
Answer my question and I'll tell you whether it matters. It's not really likely that a silly christmas tradition will make you disparage people of another ethnic group.

>>17466524
Outcomes are purified by aligning with power.

>>17467576
After ww2 lamborghini began converting tanks into tractors. Is it such a leap to see tractors turned into tanks?

>>17468217
or worse

>>17468189
What if people didn't care about skin colour? Would society suddenly get worse?

>>17468205
It normalizes it for sure.

The party of personal responsibility always blames someone else when things go wrong

>>17468237
Yup,
it's "n*ggers", muslims, jews, muh communists, etc

>>17468267
>"n*ggers"
it's okay to type nigger anon

>>17467659
>The funny thing is that those are, for all intents and purposes, fiction.
>Delusions from another component of this system of control, the media, whom only reports on disgustingly violent abuse when it fits their racial narrative.
DNA exonerations and the ubiquity of video has seriously damaged police credibility.
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Analysis-of-incriminating-evidence-in-DNA-exoneration-cases-with-permission-from-Michael_fig1_241901040

>>17468280
Yes and?

>>17468267
newfag detected

>>17468292
It's ok, he probably doesn't understand the sociopolitical implications of Jannisaries.

>>17468278
The people you are responding to no doubt watch for threads they dislike to derail conversations, and are not willing to have a honest conversation with you.

>>17468332
nigger nigger nigger

happy now?
I'll start answering questions now I've become one of you.

>>17468351
You dont understand, anon. You cant just say nigger. You have to love saying nigger. Otherwise you're just pretending.

>>17468351
So what did you think of the article that the thread was about?
>>17468379
He probably apologizes to himself for writing racist words online. He'll never experience what it feeling like to get an erection for saying nigger

>>17468351
Do you feel liberated?

>>17468415
I liked it.

>>17465952
This type of “liberation” is completely different, it’s freedom of being FORCED to rely on all kinds of institutions that wish to break you by being central to all information and all things in the global community of capital, and to get ahead in this a dog eat dog world you have to kneel to them. The liberal state serves the ever progressing individual as a necessary evil to eradicate a sense of organization that disregards the global community. It’s imperialism. Occupy wall street is just ok good example of this progressive fractured state of time tht easily infected these egalitarian people, they convinced them they were progressive enough...and thus went to racial inequality.

People are struggling to bootstrap themselves to separate from these sort of “Twitter syndrome” addictions, people create chat servers just to force themselves to do something PRODUCTIVE for themselves and only for themselves which gives me the implication that we are not free...

>>17468160
Didn't he? He mentioned that sexual preferences have a big biological aspect to them. So if somebody was going to marry outside of their race or not is hard to change and really even harder to measure because while we can say confidently it is difficult to force somebody to enjoy a romantic activity it is much easier to forcibly repress those romantic activities with legally sanctioned violence. Which was the case with interracial marriage. So yes, mixed race couples displayed on a Cheerios advertisement increases interracial marriage insofar as it was previously prohibited by artificial means and those means were represented in previous Cheerios advertisements. That actually seems like common sense.

It also seems like common sense that if you show somebody who is a caricature of your race being subservient to another race who has historically exploited your race; that will create some kind of passive psychological warping. Self esteem is not nearly so biologically hardwired as sexual preferences after all. Unless you're gonna go all tabula rasa on me.

>>17466710
retard

this is a good thrwad. bump

>>17467148
Critics of the term are being disingenuous. You'll see Marxists outright say "we are applying class struggle to race, sex, and culture" then turn around and whine about the term being "inaccurate"

Isn’t this similar to what the president did though with his supporters?

I mean think about the efforts to make postal voting more difficult in an effort to marginalise urban voters

>>17469123
Wouldn't making postal voting more difficult marginalize rural voters more than urban voters?

>>17467178
>because of the 19th century insistence of it being a global ideology
you completely fail to understand the psychology of the leftist subhuman if you think this is the reason why.

>>17466411
>in which the forces of labor came together with the forces of capital to keep the peace and oppose Trump’s assault on democracy.
Damn , I guess all those hacks we're right when they said antifa were the real fascists.

>>17465952
Qanon proven right yet again!

>>17468018
lol good one

>>17468134
It's a finite planet and every time "let's just work together" turns into sending my money to Africa with Jews taking a cut.

>>17467930
>There is no collective effort of "n*ggers" to overtake the West, and your rightoid ass knows of it too: admitting you think that would mean you view them as organized.
That already happened and it was called jazz, blues, rock n' roll, hip hop, etc.

>>17469272
Based and redpilled.
I don't trust anyone that doesn't like classical music.

>>17467867
This person is likely white. A lot of these social justice types are. But, on your account, they're pretty good at building resentment against the people they claim to protect.

I have a visceral hatred for these people. "poc" is such an patronizing term. It assumes everyone that isn't of European descent has the same worldview. Not to mention, they have dictated themselves as heroes and placed us as eternal victims to "institutional racism" and other vestigial boogeyman. There's always that undercurrent of actual racism in their own actions, ironically enough -- the infantilization of minorities, the homogenizing slogans that erode the complexity of their identities and shove them under one category. My parents didn't come here to be "victims", they're less victims under this "(((white))) supremacist" yoke than they would be under their garbage shithole countries.

>>17465952
pretty sure this is why he won

>>17469130
It doesn’t, - the main reason behind the huge increase in mail in votes was the desire to avoid crowds due to covid. The risk is much worse in more densely populated areas which is why urban dwellers were vastly more likely to use mail in ballots. Urban dwellers are more likely to vote democrat so given how close things were there was a push by the president and republicans to make this way of voting harder

>>17467925
oy vey, the jewish people have been opressed by hundreds of states over the span of millenia, goyim. don't you think they deserve a little peace??

>>17469481
They're going to try to keep mail-in voting going for midterms and 2024.

>>17466186
It's unusual for the media to outright declare they decide and manipulate the political process while selling that as some good thing. Your lazy cynicism is totally irrelevant against the sheer Orweillian nature of this, it's doublethink sans the years of conditioning and psychological accretion, the blatancy should strike anyone with a brain.

>>17469501
When is the US set to have dealt with the covid issue ? It might still be relevant likewise if it gets more people voting it’s a win win

>>17465952
>kantbot
Who?

>>17469501
Mail in voting is way better than in person voting desu. Voting should be made more accessible. We shouldn't have to stand for 2 hours in a line

>>17469510
It doesn't matter if we're still in this retarded pandemic for four years, they're going to keep it going anyway because it works in their favor. Saying "well at least they're getting more people voting" is a copout. If republicans opened up a bunch of new polling places but they were mostly in rural or red districts, people on the other side would have a problem with that, even though all they've done is allow more people to vote

>>17468091
What the retards itt don't seem to realize is that this is just another psyops. Times aren't 'confessing' to some plot, it is in fact another plot. The entire point of this is to generate right wing hysteria, they need to create the Nazis they premised their entire ideology on existing. The debacle at the capital was something similar, but this is next stage and a longer game.

To lazily use the dichotomy, this is meant to upset right wingers, not to delude leftists. They are fishing for those stupid enough to do something to do something.

>>17469524
I have never had to stand for 2 hours to vote. Mass mail-in voting is a fraudster's wet dream despite what the media will gaslight you into believing.

>>17469533
Do you have anything to back up this assertion? I'm always suspicious of "the conspiracy theory itself is the real conspiracy" type arguments, seems like a cheap trick

The most interesting takeaway from that article for me was their unashamed admission that neither BLM or Antifa are organic groundswell organizations as is so often asserted but manipulated from the top down. Not that it wasn't obvious but their openness is galling.

>kantbot
>NRX
What is this /pol/ schizo thread

>>17469543
not him but does it really matter if it's true? the end result of this piece will just end up pissing people off. I feel like posting this on /pol/. it might get me a lot of (you)'s

>>17469543
>Do you have anything to back up this assertion?
A memory that goes back further than a few years. None of this new or remarkable.

>>17469546
BLM funnels all that donation money to the Democratic party. It’s a perfect money laundering scheme, why would they even bother fixing Black culture if it’s so damn profitable?

>>17469561
What kind of thing are you remembering that makes you think the "admission" is a big psyop?
I think it's an op as well, but from a different direction -- it's a limited hangout.

>>17469546
Is it no surprise BLM appears just in time before a federal election? witnesses how this organization is going to be memory holed now that the election is over, this happened during 2016 as well.

>>17465952
>WOW LOOK AT THIS ARTICLE ADMITTING TO MASS MANIPULATION USING POPULAR MEDIA AND THE INTERNET
>THIS IS JUST LIKE [RETARDED TWITTER ECELEB] SAID!
Kill. Your. Self.

>>17469546
wow it's almost as if we were saying in June that BLM riots were state-sponsored get-out-the-vote rallies and /lit/ leftists seethed about having the audacity to demean the black struggle

>>17469590
>>17469546
Nothing to see here. Just a totally organic nationwide Racial Reckoning over the the insidious systemic racism that infects every nook and cranny of American society that coincidentally only gets noticed in the summer of years divisible by 4.

>>17469188
I mean... that’s really something else.

>>17469577
What do you want me to tell you, it's the same dog and pony show each time, only the costumes change. Do I bring up shit like 9/11 or just stick to election noise? People were angry at Russia and terrorists for a while not long ago, now it's white supremacists. We've gone from insisting the election was tampered with in Bush vs Gore to insisting all is well in defense of Obama to mass insistence Russia hacked our democracy in Trump/Clinton now to the suggestion that corporations interfered with our democracy and that's a good thing.

It's always the same thing with a little variation, but after the thing is accomplished there's no need for further justification. This is just setting the next stage, part of the cultivation process for the next casus belli.

>>17469507
Haven’t read the article - what was the manipulation and was it the fraud trump has been talking about ?

>>17469627
You're saying in each of those previous elections, there were stories pushed about electoral fraud because they were trying to incite acts of domestic terrorism? I need more convincing, especially since they never fucked with Obama. It seems simpler to me that both 2020 and 2016 are explained by them wanting to screw Trump

>>17469511
he's king of alt-right incels, but the crown was heavy and he's gone mad

>>17469798
wasnt he simping for the red scare broads?

>>17469813
that's how ugly niggas attempt to get pussy

>>17467616
Retard. It's completely made up and has been a favourite fiction since the 90s. Probably the only reason it was used is because the conditioning is already there in force. Do you take everything big news man says so faithfully?

this thread is so fucking stupid lol

>>17469530
I think it kind of does given how deadly it’s been in the US.

It doesn’t seem like a cop out to enable more people who are eligible to vote, it helps legitimise the process more.

Are there any examples in the past few decades of Democrats and the left having a problem with republicans allowing more people to vote ?

>>17469829
Nah I don't have any examples I can point to, I'm just assuming the counterfactual would be true. I don't actually know of any times republicans tried to gain advantage by adding new voters, that's definitely a democrat trick.
Mail-in voting de-legitimizes the process for me

>>17467681
>These things HAPPEN
They don't. Where's the proof?

>Otherwise there wouldn't be such an outrage against it..
Even if they did happen the ""outrage"" is short-lived fervour invented by media like every other outrage. Outrage alone is not justification especially when it is so cheap and self-indulgent.

>>17467737
>If you're poor and black that's the last thing you want to hear
What? So you're basically saying it doesn't happen but people believe it does so we should facilitate the schemes of the people who made them believe it?

>Do you deny that racism is a problem in the Western world?
It's not a problem. What racism exists is directed at whites and others who don't receive media attention or special privileges granted by the state. A more pertinent racism is found in the ignorant jingoism of liberal Americans and reduction of foreign things to political pets like yourself who doesn't know anything about 'the western world' but assumes it's the same as America. You so love racialism you will insist that racism MUST exist to satisfy you.

>>17469845
The last time I can think of Democrat suppressing votes was during the civil rights era where they had the massive platform swap with the republicans.

Both sides gerrymander but voter suppression really does seem to be a big republican thing simply because of the demographics they go for compared to the dems.

For me mail in voting in the US
isn’t a problem so much as lack of voter id (proper Id and not the abusive kind like we saw in Texas) combined with a shitty immigration system

>>17469902
And for the record I live in a country with compulsory voting - and the government will stalk you essentially to register you

>>17469902
I didn't say democrats gain advantage by suppressing votes, I said they gain advantage by adding new voters.
Lack of voter ID is also a problem, but how do you show ID when you vote by mail?

>>17469935
Adding more voters who are already eligible sounds like a good thing.

As for the ID part it would come when it comes to requesting the letter, but yeah it’s imperfect but it does at least prevent a person from voting multiple times

>>17470060
Most people don't know the policies of the people they're voting for, and just vote on pure tribal party lines. And even if they did, half the population have an IQ below 100, so they wouldn't be able to understand it.

Democracy is a joke.

>>17466119
No Star of David on the cover.
Pussies

>>17465952
I surprised the mods haven't deleted this thread yet.

>>17468415
>He'll never experience what it feeling like to get an erection for saying nigger

>>17470492
OI VEY

>>17470503
>OI VEY

>>17469787
>Haven’t read the article
Hey at least you're fitting in on /lit/

>>17466063
Everyone involved in electoral politics is pro capital. You're playing by the rules of capital in electoral politics.

socialism or barbarism

fascism is just capitalism with the mask off. socialism is our way out

>>17470553
how so?

>>17470492
>>17470540
what's with these anti-semitic /pol/ tards doing on /lit/?

>>17470573
what's with these 4chan posters posting on 4channel

>>17465952
Don't read kantbot.
Read Yarvin.
https://graymirror.substack.com/archive?sort=new

>>17466059
At this point it makes me laugh but I still appreciate how good the writing is

>>17467737
> If you're poor and black that's the last thing you want to hear
Telling people what they want to hear is not a virtue

>>17467826
Making lending decisions based on race is the rational choice because people of different races differ genetically in their intelligence and reliability

>>17467892
> The West must learn to accomodate these newcomers
Or, you know, not

>>17467657
based, thanks, this is what i was looking for

>>17468134
Nice utopia, but we don't know how to do it.
Let's let people live their lives as they want instead of trying to coerce them into some shit utopia idea that will just end up causing more suffering as it always does

>>17468134
not a stable equilibrium, try again

>>17467703
>Instead of economic oppression, they look at societal / linguistic / whatever oppression.
but they don't really, they just look at "low level" oppression so that the big players can use "the left" to remove any pockets of resistance who were pretty much irrelevant to begin with

>>17467729
yes they have always pushed communism, but as a tool in specific situations (fast industrialization of russia and china, removal of competing elites), not as a goal, most of the left is used by big players to remove not-so-big players

>>17470484
it's objectively a good thread, and the first posts are good, though it has devolved into people arguing about the same useless psyops they always do

>>17470605
yes, he has a great article basically explaining what's going on with this:
https://graymirror.substack.com/p/donald-trump-the-natural-experiment

but he used a previous NYtimes article to illustrate:
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/24/us/politics/democrats-trump-election-plan.html

would have been better if he had this Times article when writing that, it's even more unhinged lmao

>>17470867
you're looking at it from the eagle eye view, I'm talking about what the cultural marxists themselves think they're doing