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I really don’t like this poem. I didn’t like the words, I didn’t like the structure, and I especially didn’t like the presentation. She, along with the words, came across as very pretentious. She used the word “blender” or some shit when describing people. Like what the fuck is a blender? Meanwhile she’s speaking in a hoyty toyty tone of voice and snapping her fingers and like a fat black woman in a beauty salon.
>“Me was a black girl from a single momma”
Yeah? And? Want a cookie? Half of black girls don’t have dads.

>> No.17450047

does she have any poems that arent about her racial identity?

>> No.17450049

ok chud

>> No.17450112

>>17450049
Soi

>> No.17450117

>>17450047
No it’s like her race is the only thing that matters to her.

>> No.17450125

>>17450013
yah idk, seems like you could find this in any university english class.

>> No.17450133

It’s all Jewish media hype and nothing more

>> No.17450154
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>half of black girls...

In this thread, women's rights are human rights, no human is illegal, science is real, love is love, kindness is everything and Black is capitalized.

Do better anon

>> No.17450157

>>17450013
Its okay. Pretty good for a university student, but theres a reason why they call her the youth poet laureate and not the poet laureate. Shes a developing talent that might become really good. And she writes about race issues which win woke/virtue signal points that make you a candidate for government honorifics.
That said I'm pretty sure her parents are rich. So it really cheapens a lot of her claims about racial struggle - I don't buy that being black is really that much of a disadvantage if your parents are well off and connected.

>> No.17450169

>>17450013
That's the ugliest nigger i've ever seen wearing yellow clothes.

>> No.17450207

>>17450013
DEKKKOLONIZE
>>/lit/thread/S17447817#p17447817

>> No.17450215
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17450215

>>17450154
I LOVE SCIENCE! LOVE IS LOVE! NO HUMAN IS HECKIN ILLEGAL!

>> No.17450221

>>17450013
she cute though

>> No.17450236

>>17450221
OP here. Yes I agree. I’d fuck her black brains out. I’d make that pink pussy drip with ecstasy. COLONIZED.

>> No.17450246

>>17450157
It isnt, shes just grasping at the black identity schtick to not be part of the "oppressor" class. She is as much bourgeois as her white upper class friends, but that isnt cool to write poetry about.

>> No.17450310

>>17450013
I didn't like Green Eggs and Ham I didn't like them Amand I am, I didn't like them in your rhymes, I do not like them in these trying times I do not even like them on this hill we climb!

I didn't like it either though

>> No.17450340

>>17450310
Hi Amanda

>> No.17450355

>>17450013
When day comes we ask ourselves,
where can we find light in this never-ending shade?
The loss we carry,
a sea we must wade.
We've braved the belly of the beast,
We've learned that quiet isn't always peace,
and the norms and notions
of what just is
isn't always just-ice.
And yet the dawn is ours
before we knew it.
Somehow we do it.
Somehow we've weathered and witnessed
a nation that isn't broken,
but simply unfinished.
We the successors of a country and a time
where a skinny Black girl
descended from slaves and raised by a single mother
can dream of becoming president
only to find herself reciting for one.
And yes we are far from polished.
Far from pristine.
But that doesn't mean we are
striving to form a union that is perfect.
We are striving to forge a union with purpose,
to compose a country committed to all cultures, colors, characters and
conditions of man.
And so we lift our gazes not to what stands between us,
but what stands before us.
We close the divide because we know, to put our future first,
we must first put our differences aside.
We lay down our arms
so we can reach out our arms
to one another.
We seek harm to none and harmony for all.
Let the globe, if nothing else, say this is true,
that even as we grieved, we grew,
that even as we hurt, we hoped,
that even as we tired, we tried,
that we'll forever be tied together, victorious.
Not because we will never again know defeat,
but because we will never again sow division.
Scripture tells us to envision
that everyone shall sit under their own vine and fig tree
and no one shall make them afraid.
If we're to live up to our own time,
then victory won't lie in the blade.
But in all the bridges we've made,
that is the promise to glade,
the hill we climb.
If only we dare.
It's because being American is more than a pride we inherit,
it's the past we step into
and how we repair it.
We've seen a force that would shatter our nation
rather than share it.
Would destroy our country if it meant delaying democracy.
And this effort very nearly succeeded.
But while democracy can be periodically delayed,
it can never be permanently defeated.
In this truth,
in this faith we trust.
For while we have our eyes on the future,
history has its eyes on us.
This is the era of just redemption
we feared at its inception.
We did not feel prepared to be the heirs
of such a terrifying hour
but within it we found the power
to author a new chapter.
To offer hope and laughter to ourselves.
So while once we asked,
how could we possibly prevail over catastrophe?
Now we assert,
How could catastrophe possibly prevail over us?
We will not march back to what was,
but move to what shall be.
A country that is bruised but whole,
benevolent but bold,
fierce and free.
We will not be turned around
or interrupted by intimidation,
because we know our inaction and inertia
will be the inheritance of the next generation.

>> No.17450358

>>17450355
pt2

Our blunders become their burdens.
But one thing is certain,
If we merge mercy with might,
and might with right,
then love becomes our legacy,
and change our children's birthright.
So let us leave behind a country
better than the one we were left with.
Every breath from my bronze-pounded chest,
we will raise this wounded world into a wondrous one.
We will rise from the gold-limbed hills of the west.
We will rise from the windswept northeast,
where our forefathers first realized revolution.
We will rise from the lake-rimmed cities of the midwestern states.
We will rise from the sunbaked south.
We will rebuild, reconcile and recover.
And every known nook of our nation and
every corner called our country,
our people diverse and beautiful will emerge,
battered and beautiful.
When day comes we step out of the shade,
aflame and unafraid,
the new dawn blooms as we free it.
For there is always light,
if only we're brave enough to see it.
If only we're brave enough to be it.

>> No.17450403

>>17450049

Even Amber and the Chapoboys dunked on the poem.

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>>17450355
>and the norms and notions
>of what just is
>isn't always just-ice.

>> No.17450567

>>17450013
if i made a thread about every poem i didn't like id make a lot of threads about poems i didn't like shut up

>> No.17450585

>>17450013
ITT: OP experiences black American "literary output", typically amounting to "Did I mention that I BLACK *snaps fingers in Z-formation*?!"

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>>17450013
I have never listened to a good slam poem. I always thought of it more as a monologue rather than proper recited poetry.
Reminds me of this "poem": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvN0On85sNQ&ab_channel=NinaMariah

>> No.17450987

>>17450117
It’s the only thing that matters to these people. That and their victim hood.

>> No.17451004

>>17450585
Literally every English class I’ve taken in uni has made me read some shit about a “young Afro-Latina beat poet” in the heart of the bronx, or otherwise overcoming the odds.
Like suck my fucking dick, victim.

>> No.17451009

>>17450013
>Like what the fuck is a blender
3DS Max is better anyway.

>> No.17451011

>>17451009
>>17450013
she never said blender

>> No.17451048

>Half of black girls don’t have dads.

Nobody ever blames the mother, who made life totally miserable and unbearable for the men who just had to get out.

>> No.17451162

>>17450013
if you keep getting steamed about this symbolic nonsense you're gonna spend the next decade mad.

>> No.17451614

>>17450013
you misunderstand what her poem is. Incubated in a skinner box which rewarded regurgitated political slogans and media cliches; resentment and striving; cheap aesthetics and ugliness, all in exchange for praise and approval, a new form of golem has been raised, purposed to mock and destroy that which is good and true. You'll never guess what happens next!

>> No.17451701

>>17451011
Yes she did

>> No.17451935

>>17451701
The poem is posted in this thread

>> No.17452069

>>17450047
I am going to take a wild guess here: no.

>> No.17452299

>>17450358
>and might with right
Honestly a bit frightening to see a poet write this in such a tone.

>> No.17452384

>>17452299
>our people diverse and beautiful will emerge,
>battered and beautiful.
This one really weirded me out. It suggests a development, but as half of the former is kept in the latter one gets the impression that "diverse" is transformed into "battered", as "beautiful" is staying the same, rather than "battered" being added as a characteristic to the people described in the first line. My initial impression was the opposite of what I think she was trying to say; as if it were a line from some right-wing sort of poet.

>> No.17452414

>>17450621
I don't know what I hate more about slam poetry. The absolute wickedness of the material or the ridiculous performances. I suppose it's the fate of most movements that set out to be 'different' and claims to embrace diversity of expression; it collapses into itself and everyone becomes the exact same brand of 'different'.

>> No.17452450

>>17450013
She pretty though

>> No.17452463

>>17452384
Interesting take. I am not keen on following my gut that a lot of this is just clumsy and vulgar, because I am aware that I do not possess any poetic skill.
Nonetheless, a lot of this seems unpardonably ugly in language and spirit.

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17452520

As literature is, at its essence, a medium for conveying the experiences of The Other, the current "diversity" trend in publishing is no fad, rather, it represents the natural evolution of the genre and 100% right and proper.

>> No.17452561

>>17450410
>and the norms and notions of what just is
Such a clunky and importing way of saying what basically amounts to "norms". And all just so she could fit in that disgustingly cringy pun about "just-ice". This was state sponsored. I don't want to live in this country anymore.

>> No.17452600

>>17450013
Its not poetry it's rhetoric. There was nothing about that piece that resembled poetry.

>> No.17452728

>>17450154
Is the pic satire or something?

>> No.17453240

NI

>> No.17453266

>>17451614
Take your meds

>> No.17453274

>>17452561
Kill yourself any time

>> No.17453280

>>17450013
I legit thought she was a middle schooler when I saw her for the first time.

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>>17453266
say what?

>> No.17453291

>>17450013
I authentically thought it was pretty good

Sorry autists

>> No.17453337

>>17450047
No.

>> No.17453358

>>17453282
>she pretty !!
>she cute <3 :) !!

>> No.17453368 [DELETED] 

>>17453282
her pre frontal cortex has strong development

>> No.17453394

>>17453291
Why? Give some reasons. It was a lousy poem for the Hamilton audience.

>> No.17453395

>>17450355
>>17450358
watched it live and kind of hated it but im reading it now and i am finding things i like about it. i think the delivery really hurt it... i still wouldn't say i like it or anything but its better just reading it to myself.
but i mean politicians are soulless so what else are they gonna have at an inauguration

>> No.17453404

>>17453395
I’m not the biggest fan of Maya Angelou, but her poem was vastly superior to this.

>> No.17453413

>The Hill We Climb
AKA, an esoteric message from Hillary Clinton

>> No.17453414

>>17450403
Even being aware of the happenings of CTH is reddit cringe. you ain't my nigga

>> No.17453430

>>17453404
that happened more than a year ago so it doesn't exist sorry

>> No.17453431

>>17452520
>As literature is, at its essence, a medium for conveying the experiences of The Other
Is it? This is likely a pretty shallow and instrumentalist view of art.

>> No.17453434

>>17453394
I viewed it more as a performance piece, and I thought her cadence and style choice was well suited to the words. There were a lot of clever inner rhymes and off rhymes as well and it just sounded good to me.

Look, I don't agree with a lot of the message, but I can view it through the eyes of someone that does, and it's pretty well done in that regard.

And yes we are far from polished.
Far from pristine.
But that doesn't mean we are
striving to form a union that is perfect.
We are striving to forge a union with purpose,
to compose a country committed to all cultures, colors, characters and
conditions of man.
And so we lift our gazes not to what stands between us,
but what stands before us.
We close the divide because we know, to put our future first,
we must first put our differences aside.
We lay down our arms
so we can reach out our arms
to one another.

It's just kinda good, flows well with interesting plays

>> No.17453491

>>17453413
I don't think Hillary Clinton condones poetry.

>> No.17453544

>>17453491
Bitch barely condones anything.

>> No.17453548

>>17450117
>her race is the only thing that matters to her.
Based tbqhwy

>> No.17453578

>>17450047
Hmmmmmm

>> No.17453586

>>17450355
Lmao her IQ might even be close to triple digits.

>> No.17453591

>>17450013
Do you really think anyone gives a fuck? Post your shit in /crit/ you retard

>> No.17453697

>>17453434
>It's just kinda good, flows well with interesting plays
The wordplay was cliche, uninspired, and thoughtless. I don’t know how any can hear that “justice” line and think it was good. That was the worst thing about it.
Upon reading it, it is clear she put a lot of thought into it, but just imagine putting so much effort into something so mediocre. It’s impressive, but it also leaves a bad taste in your mouth.

>> No.17453841

>>17453413
It wuz hur turn cuz mmm hmm!

>> No.17453881

>>17453431
sounds like something a f***ist would say.

>> No.17453935

>>17453282
heckin CUTE

>> No.17454073

>>17450157
she went to harvard and a fancy west side private school

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>>17450049

>> No.17454095

>>17453881
Why would a fascist decry the instrumentalization of art?

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17454199

>>17453282
That mess on her head looks like the digger from The Matrix

>> No.17454661

>>17450355
>>17450358
>WE

>> No.17455543

>>17450013
Wow, super hot take in a place like this! Want a cookie?

>> No.17455933

>>17450013
Nothing but a virtue signal. What else is new?

>> No.17456139

Are you seriously expecting quality from a woman, and a black one at that?

>> No.17456149

>>17454074
Imagine making this picture

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>>17450355
>>17450358
>tfw this is the great literature of the 21st century

>> No.17456363

>>17450013
Are you surprised that the pageantry surrounding the American presidential inauguration was full of bad art? The Foo Fighters played.

>> No.17456385

>>17450355
>>17450358
I think this is pretty good desu. No one on 4channel could ever write a poem that comes close

>> No.17456760

>>17456385
It's a lousy poem. You're probably right about the second point.

>> No.17456934

The game was rigged from the start:

>K-12 at New Roads School in LA, $30k+ per year tuition
>Studied Sociology at Harvard, graduated cum laude (3.0 average)
>First National Youth Poet Laureate - an award with no affiliation to its namesake, created by Urban Word NYC, a slam poetry non-profit
>UN Youth Delegate from age 15
>Championed by establishment politicians like Hillary Clinton since age 19

Due to her skin color, she is underprivileged and a breath of fresh air. You are not. Get used to this.

>> No.17456997

>>17450013
People only liked it because she is black. If you criticize a black woman and/or their experience, you are a racist POS who should be cancelled.

>> No.17457066

I’ve always found it weird how black culture in America does not have this overarching theme of children being important. Imagine if you’re a white and you walked away from your kid; you’d be ostracized to the point of no return basically anywhere. This doesn’t really exist in black communities in America. Also why is pimping allowed in black prison gangs but not white prison gangs?

>> No.17457073

>>17456934
lmao 3.0 gpa at harvard
it's really hard to get below 3.5 at an ivy if one isn't deficient in some way