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Where do I start

>> No.17444794

Start and end with Against Heresies.

>> No.17444800

>>17444743
Your soul

>> No.17444801

>>17444743
Go to gnosis.org and read all the texts they have there
>>17444794
seething tradcath fag

>> No.17444805

>>17444794
fpbp

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>>17444743
bump for interest. Are there any real communities of practising Gnostics anymore? Revivalists? Or is the faith limited to scattered based /lit/ and /pol/ scizhos who found THE ESOTERIC TRUTH?

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>>17444743
Will taking mushrooms help my understanding of Gnosticism or no? I get the feeling that I could meet Monad if I'm blasted to another dimension for a little bit.

>> No.17444830

>>17444810
Gnosticism is mostly memed on /x/, but there is a community of cathars based in France

>> No.17444841

Just get into Neoplatonism instead

>> No.17444884

>>17444810
Gnosticism lives on in comparative mythology, psychology, and physics.

>> No.17444891

>>17444841
Why not both? And hermeticism, Zoroastrianism, and more? It’s all part of the same bigger picture

>> No.17444910
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Do not suppose that a man becomes good by despising the world and all the beauties that are in it. The Gnostics have no right to profess respect for the gods of the world above. When we love a person, we love all that belongs to him; we extend to the children the affection we feel for the parent. Now every Soul is a daughter of the Godhead. How can this world be separated from the spiritual world? Those who despise what is so nearly akin to the spiritual world, prove that they know nothing of the spiritual world, except in name.

Let any individual soul make itself worthy to contemplate the Great Soul by ridding itself, through quiet recollection, of deceit and of all that bewitches vulgar souls. For it let all be quiet; let all its environment be at peace. Let the earth be quiet and the sea and air, and the heaven itself waiting. Let it observe how the Soul flows in from all sides into the resting world, pours itself into it, penetrates it and illumines it. Even as the bright beams of the sun enlighten a dark cloud and give it a golden border, so the Soul when it enters into the body of the heaven gives it life and timeless beauty and awakens it from sleep. So the world, grounded in a timeless movement by the Soul which suffuses it with intelligence, becomes a living and blessed being.

The Spirit/Soul gives itself to every point in this vast body, and vouchsafes its being to every part, great and small, though these parts are divided in space and manner of disposition, and though some are opposed to each other, others dependent on each other. But the Soul is not divided, nor does it split up in order to give life to each individual. All things live by the Soul in its entirety; it is all present everywhere. The heaven, vast and various as it is, is one by the power of the Soul, and by it is this universe of ours Divine. The sun too is Divine, and so are the stars; and we ourselves, if we are worth anything, are so on account of the Soul. Be persuaded that by it thou can attain to God. And know that thou wilt not have to go far afield.

t. Plotinus

>> No.17444919

>>17444910
>>17444841
cringe 1st year philosophy babbies who cant shut up about On Beauty for 2 seconds. stop it.

read

Jacques Lacarriere's essay on the topic (online)
Kurt Rudolph's Gnosis
Hans Jonas' Gnostic Religion
Couliano's Tree of Gnosis
Filoramo's History of Gnosticism

all excellent, excellent material. gets the feeling across without being just a bunch of dusty old men combing through dusty old books. then read Voyage to Arcturus. ascend.

>> No.17444932

>>17444919
In my personal opinion Gnosticsm is for Christians too scared to get into real occultism. Neoplatonism covers all possible bases anyway without them getting caught up in fragmented larp, plus it already has a complimentary relationship with Christianity. Fish to water.

>> No.17444941

>>17444932
>here's my completely uninformed brainlet opinion peepeepoopoo
>complimentary
kek hasn't read shit, hasn't studied shit, talks shit. never change /lit/

>> No.17444943

>>17444801
Why would i seethe? Gnosticism is righteously a dead religion with a couple internet larpers who likely don't even take it seriously. Everyone should read Against Heresies so they don't fall for that nonsense either way.

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>>17444941

>> No.17444971

>>17444943
kek gnostics were proven right the instant the church they condemned as the whore of babylon began persecuting them. imagine being on the side of the vatican

>> No.17444986

>>17444970
christianity is a judaization of the pure gnosis christ mainlined into his disciples' veins. christ's father is NOT the creator of this world

there's always been a gnostic undercurrent in the Bible, as far back as Job through John to Paul, you're just too much of a brainlet and demiurge apologist to see it.

>> No.17445002

Don't

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>>17444986
>christianity is a judaization of the pure gnosis christ mainlined into his disciples' veins

That's the only thing we agree on. The muh demiurge gobble is so 2012 but you do you.

>> No.17445009

Eric Voegelin

>> No.17445010

>>17444810
The closest you'll ever get to living gnosticsm is people like David Icke

>> No.17445011

>>17445006
yeah dude gnosticism was all the rage in 2012 i remember

retard

>> No.17445017

>>17444743
There is this amazing work by a former gnostic called
>Confessions by St. Augustine
That will get you started :)

>> No.17445024

>>17445017
lol fucking ravaged by both manichaeans AND sloterdijk. stop shilling this pseud

>> No.17445025

>>17444919
>muh ascension

lmao this nigga still stuck in dualism!

>> No.17445026

>>17445011
you don't because you're a bandwagoning zoomer, at least you read though

>> No.17445043

>>17445026
i'm older than you, trust me

>>17445025
there's nothing more odious than a smug monistcuck. enjoy melting back into undifferentiated energy soup retard. say hi to """"god"""" for me lmao

>> No.17445061

OP here, maybe I'll just go read some Augustine and Aquinas.

I won't lie the idea of an attractive feminine personification of Wisdom helped stir my interest in the gnostic arts.

>> No.17445066

>>17445061
kek filtered before you even started. take your place back in line, demiurgecuck

>> No.17445067

>>17445024
stroking sloterdik and following Manic Aeons—that’s an odd way to chase after the products of your phantasm under the guise of truth

>> No.17445079

>>17445067
augustine didn't have the loins to think and live with radical dualism. then he infested nascent christianity with original sin kikery. and nothing of value was lost.

>> No.17445123

>>17445043
Have fun with your phobos-rooted mythic dissociation and life-denying LARP .

>> No.17445131

>>17445123
>life-denying
thanks for posting this, now I'm certain you're retarded

>> No.17445133

>>17445079
>y-you’re Judaized!
I’m Judaized?
You’re Judaized!

>> No.17445208

>>17445131
OK schizo larper.

>> No.17445316

>>17444884
>physics

In what way?

>> No.17445323

Gospel of Thomas is very good

>> No.17445390

>>17445316
>he doesn't know

>> No.17445400

>>17444986
>there's always been a gnostic undercurrent in the Bible, as far back as Job
Is the God in Job the demiurge? He does seem like a bit of a sadist. Or do you mean Satan in Job is the demiurge?

>> No.17445416

>>17445400
Both if you know Marcion. the suffering of a subject like Job is valid, as valid as the ontological primacy of God, anyone who thinks the book ends with God restoring the old order is just a fool

>> No.17445428

Utterly retarded thread.

>> No.17445483

>>17445010
the nation of islam believes that white people are devils (i.e. archons) created by an evil black scientist demiurge named yakub, and that orthodox christianity and islam keep black people down by teaching them to worship a spook in the sky. so yeah, pretty gnostic

>> No.17445487

>>17445010
or the Mandaeans you fucking pseud

>> No.17445542

>>17444910
That's a very beautiful passage. Is there a particular book this is from, or a book on Neoplatonism in general you would recommend?

>> No.17445637

>>17445542
The Enneads

>> No.17445662

>>17444743
Nag Hammadi Library
documentaries

>> No.17445670

>>17444810
>>17444830
>>17445010
People like you literally seethe daily that Gnostics are alive and well despite thousands of years of persecution. Keep licking demiurge boots hylic scum.

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>>17445670
>People like you
nigger I think it's cool I just wanted to know if there are any around how about you fucking relax matey

>> No.17445694

>>17445674
You are looking for exoteric practice. Gnosticism survives through the Mandaeans, there is also a small Manichaenism revival in China but it's heavily regulated by the government. Who cares for the exoteric side of religion? The internet gnostics and recent gnostics like philip k dick keep the tradition alive.