/lit/ - Literature

>>17420902
It's one of the better ways to start analyzing the Quran more seriously outside of the good tafsirs out there but you should keep in mind that Nasr is a perennialist. If you keep this bias in mind, you'll be fine.

>>17420913
Are tafsirs old commentaries?

>>17421004
Yeah they are. Most translations of the Quran are aligned with Sunni orthodoxy, but tafsirs are highly sectarian so keep that in mind if you wanna check some tafsirs out.

>>17420902
How about this?

>>17421026
Abdel Haleem isn't the greatest translation. Arberry and Pickthall are preferable. Not reading the Quran is preferable to whatever the hell is going on with the Sahih International translation.

>>17421026
Both this and the Study Qur'an are promoted by state departments, the UK and U.S. respectively

>>17421026
I feel that I need some sort of commentary. I've attempted to read it and had no idea what was happening in the second surah

>>17421084
>nasr, hamza yusuf, and everyone I disagree with are shills
Good Lord this guy

>>17421084
Is this supposed to make me hesitant to read it? I just want a traditional view of the meaning of the text. It seems like a lot of the commentaries coming out of America are propaganda to show that Islam is non violent

>>17421111
Check'd and in my opinion Islam isn't violent of non-violent, it's whatever the context demands in accordance with Islamic principles. Not using qiyas is akin to nominalism and relativism in it's chaotic effects, not that Ibn Taymiyyah is actually a nominalist (which is something Shaykh Hamza Yusuf believes lol).

>>17421099
Was gonna ask for this on both the Bible and the Qu'ran, since the historical context is extremely important.

>>17421179
The Bible is still readable though. The Qur'an seems impenetrable

>>17420902
Read it backwards

>>17421063
What about the Yusuf Ali translation>

>>17421862
In my opinion it isn't that bad but a lot of people say the translation is a bit off and I can see where they're coming from. I wouldn't use it if I were you. Picrel is accurate minus the bit on Haleem imo.

>>17420902
yeah, I still advise learning Arabic and reading it in its native language though.
>>17421026
This was the book used in my department back when I was an undergrad. We read it in combination with Watt and Bell's "Introduction to The Qur'an" and Donner's Muhammad and the Believers". I genuinely don't know why the head of the department, an Iranian, allowed this version given how dated the translation is.

>>17421108
Hamza Yusuf explicitly worked for both the American government and the UAE government

>>17421862
>>17421904
I put yusuf Ali side by side with the rest and really complaining about being outdated is a meme. Sure it is old English compared to today, but deal with it faggot since it doesn’t have a bias like today’s standard

>>17422629
Yusuf Ali is definitely biased

Are there any Islamic commentaries? Maybe something Wahhabist?

>>17422673
The Hilali-Khan although a lot of it is just politically incorrect because it uses scholars like Tabari and Ibn Kathir

>>17422855
>just politically incorrect
what do you mean by this? I am looking for a Jihadist approved commentary

>>17422868
It's definitely the most jihadist but I mean politically incorrect as in very harsh on Christians and Jews

>>17422882
I will look into it thank you

>>17420902
What are the best sources on early Shi'ism

>>17423344
A History of Shi'i Islam by Farhad Daftary
The Sacred Foundations of Justice in Islam by Reza Shah-Kazemi
Lantern of the Path by Ja'far al-Sadiq (6th Imam of the Twelver and Ismaili Shia traditions)
Safavid Iran by Andrew J. Newman
The Isma'ilis by Farhad Daftary
The Ismaili Imams: A Biographical History by Farhad Daftary
Temple and Contemplation by Henry Corbin
Can't think of any books on Zaidi Shias though

i own it and plan on selling if off, it's a physically beautiful book, leatherbound, nicer than my bibles, but it's just so crushingly dull. the translation is ugly and awkward compared to others out there, and the endless notes aren't particularly interesting, mostly states the obvious that you could get from the text yourself. i just use a cheap paperback of Pickthall's translation instead and look up any question i have online... a lot of tafsir's can be found as free pdfs via a simple google search

>>17423442
Qutb's is the most interesting

>>17423467
i have that but from the notes i've taken so far, the ones i've used most often are Al-Sa'di, Al-Qushayri, Al-Maybudi and Al-Qurtubi, if i spelled those right

>>17423476
Tabari is also good

>>17423493
iirc i only have one volume of that, covering like the first two surahs