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Essential war lit?

>> No.17413017

>>17412993
use google nigger

>> No.17413059
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17413059

>>17412993
Catch-22

And if you're not too much of an autist to include film: Dr. Strangelove

>> No.17413142

Chickenhawk
SOG

>> No.17413154

>>17413059
wow yea its totally autistic to expect literature in a discussion of literature

>> No.17413169

>>17413017
Kek this
/thread

>> No.17413448

>>17413059
Catch-22 is essential anti-war lit.

>> No.17413454
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>>17412993
any decent history book

>> No.17413758

Past couple of months someone mentioned doing a study of war, looked like time good titles but now I can't find the thread. Anyone know?

>> No.17413828

Slaughterhouse V is not really war lit but its the essential ‘war = hell’ book imo

>> No.17414096

>>17412993
Pro War:
The Iliad
Henry V
Red Badge of Courage

Anti War:
The Art of War
War and Peace
All Quiet on the Western Front
The Good Soldier Svejk
A Farewell to Arms
For Whom the Bell Tolls
Catch-22
Slaughterhouse 5

Starship Troopers is either, depending on your interpretation.

>> No.17414119

>>17414096
Do I have to have read the previous 4 Henry’s before I can read the fifth one?

>> No.17414137

>>17414096
I can't believe I forgot:
History of the Peloponnesian War
Storm of Steel
Gravity's Rainbow
The Things They Carried
The Sneetches

>> No.17414143

>>17414119
Besides for a reference to Falstaff, Henry V is self contained. Of course, Henry IV is a masterpiece too, so don't skimp on that.

>> No.17414154

>>17414137
you almost fucked up. nice save.

>> No.17414161

>>17414154
what did he mean by this

>> No.17414173

>>17412993
carl von clausewitz

>> No.17414178

>>17414161
poster forgot Storm of Steel at first, but then added it.

>> No.17415286

With the old Breed
Helmet for my Pillow
Mine were of Trouble

>> No.17415295

The Things They Carried by Tim O'Brien aka. the book that got me interested in reading.

Most Hemmingway.

>> No.17415513

storm of steel

>> No.17415518

>>17414096
One more pro war:
Blood Meridian

>> No.17415520

The Cruel Sea by Nicholas Monsarrat
Sword of Honour trilogy by Evelyn Waugh
Robert Graves' war poetry
Winston Churchill's books on WW2

>> No.17415640
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>>17415518

>> No.17415750

red sorghum

>> No.17415760

>>17415518
Dimwit

>> No.17415946

>>17415640
>>17415760
Whaaa? Don't you remember the God is war speech?

>> No.17415963

>>17415946
(You)

>> No.17415985

The Longest Day by Cornelius Ryan..

>> No.17416284

>>17412993
Troop Leader: A Tank Commander's Story

>> No.17416856

>>17412993
Ernst von Salomon: The Outlaws

>> No.17416889

>>17416856
Seconding this

>> No.17416901
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17416901

I’m about a third of the way through this. Pretty awesome so far

>tfw i will never be a Russian cavalry officer trampling and sabering degenerate Reds

;-;

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17416922

The only war truly worthy of study

>> No.17416929
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17416929

All Quiet on the Western Front is easily one of my favorites annon. Pretty short book, but not to a fault.

>> No.17416934

>>17416922
Dixieboo propaganda

>> No.17416952

>>17414096
>Anti War:
>The Art of War
literally what? He just gives sometimes cryptic advice about warfare. Not exactly anti.

>> No.17417030

Goodbye to All That
Seven Pillars Of Wisdom

>> No.17417082

machiavelli's art of war

>> No.17417807

The Guns of August and the others in the series about WW1 by Barbara Tuchman

>> No.17419195

>>17416952
Sun Zi explicitly states to avoid fighting whenever possible. Read more, faggot.

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17419535

>literally goes back to war for /lit/ inspo

>> No.17419615

>General War theory
On War (Clausewitz)
On the Origins of War (Kagan)
Causes of War (Van Evera)
>Guerilla War
The War of the Flea (Taber)
On Guerilla Warfare (Mao)
Guerilla Warfare (Che)
>Classics
The Peloponnesian War (Thucydides)
The Iliad (Homer)
>WWI
Human Smoke (Baker)
The Illusion of Victory (Fleming)
The Deluge (Tooze)
The Guns of August (Tuchman)
All Quiet on the Western Front (Fromm)
Storm of Steel (Junger) (these two should be read side by side)
>WWII
The New Dealer's War (Fleming)
The Pacific War: 1931-1945 (Ienaga)
The Second World War (Churchill)
>Vietnam War
The Best and the Brightest (Halberstam)
>Korean War
The Coldest Winter (Halberstam)
>Soviet-Afghan War
The Other Side of the Mountain (Jalai)

>> No.17419627

>>17419195
lolwut. He says the best is to win without fighting, thats not at all the same thing

>> No.17419736

storm of steel. there was this one book another anon recommended that was similar but from a british perspective. it was pro-war and I can't remember the name, it was written by a british officer. anyone remember?

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Great read

>> No.17420935

>>17419195
He says this from the standpoint that it is more efficient and better for rulers to avoid warfare.

>> No.17421064

Storm of steel, the forgotten soldier, fire-eater, copse 125 etc etc.

>> No.17421075

>>17419195
Infantile, degenerate yank hands typed this post.

>>17416934
And this one too.

>> No.17421076

>>17419195
idiot

>> No.17421107

>>17416922
It's like baseball: it means jackshit outside the USA

>> No.17421149

Field Manual FM 3-24 MCWP 3-33.5 - Insurgencies and Countering Insurgencies
Field Manual ATP 3-21.8 - Infantry, Platoon and Squad

>> No.17421192

>>17421107
baseball is popular in many countries, you are ignorant

>> No.17421392

>>17421064
fucking thank you, ive been looking for the name of fire-eater but could never find anything.

>> No.17421821

>>17415640
The ultimate trade awaiting its ultimate practitioner.

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>>17421821
Et in arcadia ego

>> No.17422127

>>17421821
>>17422074
A book that only real men understand.

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>>17421075
Imagine being a neo-confederate

>> No.17422247

>>17412993
Anabasis
Ernst Jüngers Storm of Steel or what it was

>> No.17422314

>all this ernst junger spam
guarantee no one in this thread has even read it, and is just repeating posts that other people made on /lit/, who also dont read

>> No.17422319

>>17422314
I have, in german. Whats your problem ?

>> No.17422331

>>17422319
congrats, I guess. Still just a huge circlejerk ITT

>> No.17422353

>>17422331
Ah okay. I thought you had a problem with his works which wouldnt make sense. Honestly didnt read much of the thread so eh

>> No.17422356

>>17422331
It's the best war lit, fuck you

>> No.17422394

>>17422353
He's fine. Glass Bees was pretty slow moving but Storm of Steel and Eumeswil were breddy gud
>>17422356
tell me why, specifically

>> No.17422727

>>17421064
>>17421392
whats the fire eaters?
all I see is some kids book.

gimme an author and whats it about?

>> No.17422737

>>17422394
I finished storm of steel recently (got it as a christmas gift) and it's easily in my top 5. I'm reading eumeswil at the moment and it too is quite good. I'm eyeing sturm next. Junger honestly has to be with Lawrence as one of those underrated nietzscheans that rarely get talked about. Lawrence and Junger are sort of just the opposite sides of the same coin.

>> No.17422740

>>17422727
Look up Fire-Eater: the Memoirs of a VC. thats how I found it. the title is annoying as hell to find.

>> No.17422819

>>17422394
He had Balls of Steel.

>> No.17422829

>>17413758
No one?

>> No.17423413

>>17412993
payback, by gert ledig

>> No.17423415

>>17419195
Cowardice is faggotry

>> No.17423419

>>17421107
Isnt Japan more into baseball than the United States? Lol...

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>>17414096
>The Good Soldier Svejk
You're either Czech of a true patrician.

>> No.17423902

>>17416922
>look guys! we had a war too!