/lit/ - Literature

When will this bakker-posting end? I still haven't read the second series so I cannot read any of these threads without being spoiled.

The world is long overdue for another great SFF writer.

Where the fuck is he

>>17407361
>When will this bakker-posting end?
Probably Never.

>I still haven't read the second series so I cannot read any of these threads without being spoiled.
People are usually careful with spoilers. Just hide any suspicious thread.

>>17407361
I'm in the same boat as you however the bakker-posting seems very easy to identify without seeing spoilers so it's not so bad.

>>17407364
you are looking at her

>>17407364
right here pal

Anyone else here got sucked into the webnovels and haven't read a propel novel for years? In the last 2 years I read maybe 5-6 proper novels, the rest is only webnovels like Worm, MoL or The Wandering Inn.
I don't know how to go back to books, published stuff is just too lacking, compressed, unelabroted...
How can anyone read 300 pages little story when you can have 1k pages long one?
This is the future. Books are simply inferior due to their physical constraints, you can't just print 1k pages long story unless you are some bigshot author.

>>17407710
They are just the latest iteration of serialized media which has been around for over a century. All it means is you like reading soap operas instead of self-contained stories.

>I am stronger!

>>17407710
Ye I still read them. But web serials are very boring. You realize after a while you're eating popcorn, stretched out popcorn. I read the whole of worm, the whole mol. Barely remember anything. It's kind of like a drug.
I like it but good books have their place.

>>17407744
Absolutely, Majestically, Irrevocably Based.

How can Sandersoys even compete?

>>17407606
Didn't she win the Hugo award?

>>17407606
Nice tummy

Is it enough to read just The Prince of Nothing trilogy? Does it have a satisfactory ending?

>>17408030
>Does it have a satisfactory ending?
Absolutely. Perhaps one of the most emotional and satisfying ending's I've ever read.

>Is it enough to read just The Prince of Nothing trilogy?
You can. The next series starts 20 years later, but I doubt you will stop there.

The "what I got" part is pretty much how I felt when I reading the ending

>>17407710
Same, except I only read chink/gook/jap webnovels.

>>17407331

So what got you guys in to book reading?
***********************************************

For me it was "The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy"

Before that, I believed all books were dull shit, were you spend 20 pages reading someone getting up out of bed and making coffee.
I remember in elementary school we had to read books aloud and they would force us to read a book about a girl and her horse, literally the daily life of a girl grooming and riding her horse. Then came the phase where we were supposed to read actual lit. The western canon is fine if you are advanced, but not very suited for high schoolers. School made me hate books.

Then one day as I was studying in the library I came across The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy, and I thought it was such a weird and silly name. I opened it up just to read a bit. And to my surprise every page had something interesting, I was having more fun reading that book then playing many video games or watching movies. Obviously many books need to establish a world and characters, and they do not work well if they are fast paced. But fast books are great for hooking in new readers. This is also why I do not hate YA books, most kids books are to dull and tame, but YA seem to work very well in you are in high school and need to bridge the gap. They may not be as interesting to us now, but I like the fact that they exists.

But please tell us all how you guys came to read and love books.

>>17408083
>So what got you guys in to book reading?
I got bored of video games. I also found out that story-telling in most media is an insult to any one's intelligence.

>>17408083
Post it on Reddit. Farm some karma.
For me it was Eragon. Eragon is like socialism.
It seems good when you're a child, but when you get older you notice it's shit. Many good memories though, not bad gateway to reading actually good books

>>17408083
Magic Treehouse
Age 4
I've been reading since then. I always was that one dude in the back reading constantly. Books are awesome and very cool.

>>17407364
Do it yourself

>>17407878
>How can Sandersoys even compete?
Literally rent free :^)

>>17408083
Reddit but almost based

>“Esmenet had loved joking about cocks. She marvelled at the way men fussed over them, cursing, congratulating, beseeching, coaxing, commanding, even threatening them. Once she told Achamian about a deranged priest who had actually held a knife to his member, hissing 'You must listen!' After that, she said, she understood that men, far more than women, were other to themselves.”

4 350+ page books this week

/sfffg/ - Science Fiction, Fantasy, and Fables

>>17408200

Where can I find more of her?

>>17408613
>>17400252

>>17408200
This passage was.... pretty goddamn cringe desu.

>>17408613
>her

>>17408540
Based Watership Down poster

>>17408667
>

>>17408674
cruel and uncalled for

>>17408674
Do Sandersoys really?

>>17407331
The Alien Years - Robert Silverberg (1995)
This is an intergenerational family saga, which reminded me that I ought to find and read other similar books because it's a concept that I seem to enjoy. Unfortunately, I've also been burned by concepts I enjoy many times as well.
Although this is a fix-up novel, which means much of the content of the book is from previously published short fiction, in this case I didn't hold that against it at all. I usually do. I've previously read of one the stories before, The Pardoner's Tale, and it was interesting to see how it differed.
Sometimes it's helpful to have proper expectations before engaging with a work. I believe this is one of those times. A person can start something and expect to know where the story is heading based on what they've previously experienced and stake their projected enjoyment on that only to be disappointed when the work takes a different path.
There's an alien invasion, which is the plot for the entire book, but first and foremost this is a family saga. This isn't a story about joy, victory, or heroism. That by itself may be too off-putting for many. If you require the "why" of anything to be answered, then you'll be severely frustrated. The considerable amount of sex, the long and frequent descriptions of the bodies of various women, and the utter contempt that several of the men hold for women, will be deal breakers for others.
There are many viewpoints and no single character is the protagonist. This was a nice change of pace and I really should read more books that don't have any characters in a dominant narrative role. There are a lot of characters presented, but most of them only have minor roles, so it isn't that important to keep track of them.
The beginning was slow going, the entire first part really, but eventually I couldn't put it down and was completely engrossed. If you don't find yourself interested in the family and others, then it'll probably be a slow read from beginning to end for you.
This book was an unusual case in that most of the time I was reading I was considering how I ought to rate it and what sort of statement that would make. I remain conflicted, but I've rated this in terms of personal enjoyment. Take from that what you will as I'm uninterested in defending the aforementioned potential concerns about the content.
Many readers seem to have strongly disliked the ending for various reasons, which is understandable. The ending is entirely thematically appropriate for the book, but that's the problem in of itself. What the ending says about the book will be abhorrent and/or confusing to many readers.
I've rated this 5/5, but when considering what seems to be its reception, that may be mostly because of my personal biases and interests. This is not intended to be an endorsement for others to read this. As noted above, I've included the preceding disclaimer I believe it can be important to have realistic expectations.
Rating: 5/5

>>17408083
my biology teacher recommended me Dune and Foundation. All fell into place from there

I can't for the life of me get the main plot of my story. I have the world, the setting, the character, and the vibe.

Right now I am considering having my protagonist completely destroy the entire lands that the story takes place in since the land itself is inherently evil. But isn't this a copy of Tolkien and destroying Mordor?

The other option is to have the protagonist destroy the main bad guy, who is a wizard. But that is just a copy of Harry Potter, where the main plot is to defeat Voldemort.

Should there even be a main overarching plot or goal, or should I just write about various events that take place in this world? What I like about Harry Potter is that each book is a self-contained event, but they all lead us further to the main plot of destroying Voldemort.

>>17408747
Want a good piece of advice?

Make the world feel secondary. Focus everything on having good characters. Explore their motivations, strengths and weaknesses. The rest will naturally follow. You will do it in order to make the characters shine.

>>17408760
Thanks for the advice.

>>17408643
>>17408200
>pierced nips
damned after all

>>17408824
As a matter of fact, you are doomed to repeat the same fantasy themes and clichés. That's why the world you create is mostly irrelevant.

Some other Ideas:
- Do not over explain your world. Make it come alive naturally. Don't treat your readers like they're a bunch of retards. It's quite literally the worse thing you can do.
- Do not be afraid to show what characters are really thinking. People are overly judgmental and critical. That's the definition of "thinking".
- Don't be afraid of creating stupid characters. Even I find a hard time creating realistic stupid characters.
- Plan dialogues properly!
- Do not create unidimensional characters. This doesn't mean that you have to go full grey morality.

The characters will make the book come alive, not the other way around.
Every book praised on this general is like that.

since when did /sffg/ turn into booba general?

>>17408920
Since the Bakkerchads took over.

>>17408920
The Meat has taken this general

So what's with you fags and your obsession with Sanderson and Bakker? I recognize Sanderson isn't that great and I would guess Bakker is worth reading, and /sffg/ mostly thought that before, but when did Sanderson become the punching bag of these threads and Bakker become your idol?
I'm some dude returning after months and months of being inactive and I'm entirely confident it wasn't like this before. This shit is new.

>>17408674
kek

>>17408987
Its all me.

>>17408987
It's just one soy that gets triggered every time some one criticizes Sanderson or posts pic related.

>>17408987
>>17333333

>>17408987
we like the author.

>>17408987
There just isn’t that much else out to read right now. It’ll die down when there’s another big release or something.

>>17409044
you can't tell me that these shitposters have read all of the classics

>>17409081
Like what, wiseass?

>>17409086
fucking charts in the OP, retard

>>17409098
So you haven't read them either.

Ok, dipshit.

Fantasy is just wish fulfillment

>>17409103
I am in the process of reading them, fucko.
You don't need to be rec'd them to 'em.
Just shut the fuck up and READ, nigger

>>17409120
I accept your defeat.

Yatwerians are fucking insane.

>>17408747
Can you give a brief description of your characters? It's hard to help with plot advice when we don't know anything about them or their motivations

>>17408987
And they've stopped discussing shit and I'll be filtering them. It's something that exploded for some unknown reason in the last 1 or 2 months. Most posts are just a shitposts and shitflinging, copypasting stale memes to get the thread going. It's worse than a Discord. No matter my appreciation for Bakker, the infantile retards on this thread are insufferable, they don't fucking care about spoilers, they don't fucking care they're reaching Reddit levels of unoriginality. Their fandom has made them familiar with the shit they read, they don't need or feel like reading anything outside their comfort zone. They can just fill their Internet daily quota by shitposting.

Fuck E William Brown
Fuck HIM!

>>17409003
Is this Sanderson's "sunset found her squatting in the grass" or is that a bad comparison?

>>17409308
That's hardly his worst passage.

>>17409303
this

>>17409303
>>17409449
You post this every single thread.

Being someone who's never heard or read these authors, why do you hate them so much?

>>17409003
Well, I like his language. It looks like his vocabulary isn't filled with unnecessary difficult words, and that's a good thing.
t. ESL

>>17409480
lurk moar.

>>17407331
what is /sffg/'s thoughts on this?

>>17407606
I read the Broke Earth, and did anyone else find it strange how much characters clenched their jaw in that book? Anytime someone was even slightly irritated, they clenched their jaw.
There was another descriptor she relied on too, but I can't remember what it was right now. But I remember thinking how everyone is just grinding their teeth and spasmodically twitching over every mild provocation.

>>17409480
If you search the archive the e william fag explains his autism and obsession.

>>17409521
>Broke

>>17409521
>>17407606
>Reading books written in present tense

>>17409536
Oops.

Can you recommended some immersive easy fiction books? Midwit non reader here

>>17409571
Dune

>>17409507
Read it like 15 years ago, bready gud from what I remember. Entertaining mix of realism and classic fairy tale elements.

>>17409577
Have read it

>>17409589
Then why are you calling yourself a Midwit non reader? Do you want something that's actually good, or not?

>>17409598
Anon, I read like 10 books a year.
> Do you want something that's actually good
Yes?

>>17409615
Start with this. It's very immersive and surrealist. Thank me later.

>Anon, I read like 10 books a year.
That makes you a reader.

>>17409486
I mean, that's the thing. Sanderson is fine if your English isn't good, but for most native, adult readers his vocabulary is too simple.
To compare, English literally is your second language, right? Pick up a book written in your native language and you'll surely notice a difference in how it feels to read because of your greater vocabulary. For us, reading Sanderson is not that different from reading a Japanese light novel that has been translated to English by some nerd, despite the fact that he writes in English to begin with.

>>17409615
>Anon, I read like 10 books a year.
You're a reader then.
Try Cradle: Unsouled. It's very easy and good at the same time. Very light, fun, likeable characters, cool powers and sheeit.

>>17409624
>>17409647
Relatively a non-reader compared to the autists on here.
But thanks for the suggestions. Will read

>>17409486
I honestly find this hilarious. Unless your English is somewhat bad, what you're saying is basically just a hard cope for your laziness.

>>17409642
I'm also an ESL (Native Fluency) and Sanderson is simply not good. And it's not just the vocabulary and prose.

>>17409687
My English is good enough to understand 4chan posts. My English is good enough to communicate with people in real life. But yes, my English is not good enough when it comes to some retarded words of Latin origin. Granted, I can skip the fragments I don't quite understand and still grasp some general meaning of the text but I'm somewhat autistic about that: I have to be sure what each and every word means, or my autistic soul won't be fully satisfied.

>>17409540
Why not both?

>>17409732
I'm not usually one to chill Consoomerism, but you're really missing out if you don't own one of these. The dictionaries/translators/(and Wikipedia access) are fantastic.

>>17409676
I read Stephen King's IT in 1 week. Where do I rank at?

>>17409732
>my English is not good enough when it comes to some retarded words of Latin origin
>hurr unnecessary words
embarrassingly immature.

>>17409207
t. peach seller

>>17409768
Kindle
Nook
Boox
What use?

>>17409864
I've never owned a Boox, so I can't comment too much.

Between Kobo and Kindle, the hardware is almost the same, but the Kindle wins because the Kobo dictionaries are trash and it has not translator. Also, books on amazon are usually cheaper.
>inb4 buying books

>>17409821
t. crazy menstrual blood cultist

>>17409207
>>17409961
Sorweel’s soul is saved by Yatwer. Do you think he gets to enjoy a pleasant paradise in her green valley, or is the implication that he will be gruesomely devoured by Yatwer for the rest of eternity... damnation in all but name? What do you guys think?

>>17407364
I am here, my novel will be called "Gay Niggers from Outer Space, the novel".

>>17408093
you will be surprised of "modern" scifi and fantasy authors. Check the winners of Nebula Awards from these last 10 years.

>>17409308
>sunset found her squatting in the grass
But that was great prose.

>>17410012
I actively avoid nu-lit. Anything that wins awards or meets the current woke standards.
When I eventually run out of good sff, I will just start reading other stuff.
It's not all bad, I will die long before I read every good book in existence.

>>17410039
woke
Opinion discarded

>"In a way, he was as much as Seswatha, if not more. In a way, he no longer shat either. And knowing this was enough to make him shit."

The Coffers!

The Slog of Slogs!

I'm going to write a letter to Bakker.

Should I mention 4chan?

I'm looking for a hard sci-fi book with a similar feel to the first half of Seveneves. I ready liked the dirty, radioactive, bleak feel of near-future spaceflight.

>>17410272

Hello frens, I am attempting to follow Story Genius to create a SF/F novel. It will be set in the modern world, but one where people get superpowers through weird robot suits (I am very much ripping off Warframe for them,) and it will be about a male protagonist who gets one and learns to value freedom over comfort (as a theme, at least.) I post this to ask what age you think the protagonist should be for this kind of story. Thank you for any input. :)

>>17410312
>the modern world
>superpowers

Not gonna make it.

>>17410039
GooD

>>17410337
This is a test story, not my passion project. I'm not asking about the idea itself. I just want to know the age that comes to your mind when you read that idea.

>>17410288
Thanks, dick.

>>17410312
If you can't fully realize your MAIN character, how the "modern world" would affect him and people of his age group and his growing up, at what point in his life he would reach such determination, if you don't know for what age group you're writing for, I don't think you're fit to write a novel.

Pic related is as worthy as any random suggestion.

>>17410386
Sorry, buddy. Had to do it ^_^

bakker's top 3 words:

rank

elephantine

peach

>>17410443
>dread
>famed
>stink

How good is elf and demon pussey?

>>17410402
Hello sir, you have misunderstood. I have a main character, with an age and all. It's what Story Genius is about. I am asking what age you would expect them to be for the given story idea.

Bakker’s books have unironically made me consider returning to Christ after many years as a heavy metal atheist/satanist.

>>17410548
>after many years as a heavy metal atheist/satanist.
Cringe

Is anyone reading or have already read the Safehold series by David Weber? I just finished the fifth book, How Firm a Foundation. It's been a good series overall. There are a few crutches that weber leans on a bit like people murmuring instead of just talking, but overall I have liked the pace and characters. I'd like to see if anyone has finished the series and if they think it ends well.

>>17410272
Ring by Stephen Baxter was pretty good and also quite bleak.

>>17410626
I only made it to book 2 or so. It's not that it was bad or anything but I think the first book kind of blew its load when the MC revealed the secret. After that it was just kind of boring.

>>17410461
Almost as good as fox, rabbit and harpy pussy

I FUCK SRANC

>>17407331
I hate niggers

>>17410548
You never had a coherent religious worldview in the first place.

>>17410667
He fucked a harpy?
Jesus this guy doesn't care where he sticks his dick.

Are there any /sffg/ memes?

>>17410689
remember to sleep with your ass against the wall

>>17410237
>Should I mention 4chan?
Fuck no.

>>17410895
Why? Don't you think that he's aware of this general?

He's a glorified meme. I don't see the problem in saying that people here love him.

>>17410865
Plenty.
GRI was started in sffg. The freedom bears for malazan, lightbringer, red rising, sanderson and Prince of Nothing was from sffg. etc

>>17410922
Did these memes ever materialize into pictures? I know that the answer is most likely yes, since I can already see some memes posted here. I would just like to have a look at the older ones.

>>17410949

>>17410663
I totally get that. I think they had to so that they could keep the plot moving forward in a reasonable fashion.

>>17407931
She won the most of any author in history. Face it bigot, she's just the best.

>>17410987
>>17410949
Since we're all here in this fine "shitposting free" Friday.

What memes would you like to see? I might do some.

>>17408674
every sanderson fan I've met in person is literally this.

>>17411053
earthsea memes
silmarillion memes
wolfe memes
bakker memes
garth nix memes
redwall memes

>>17408674
LMAO

>>17411086
I need something more concrete. And I would rather take notes from you than looking online for them.

I also think that there's already an abundance of Bakker memes. I know that some anon here did most of them.

>>17410895
I'm pretty sure that Bakker posts here.

Why didn't the Nansur build a wall?

bakkerchuds are ruining this fucking general

>>17411336
walls are racist

>>17411359
two months ago it was the sandershits. remember the pages upon endless pages of garbage posts about shallan and navani? two months from now it will be some other meme author. if you want le serious discussion, go back from
whence you came. this site was literally built for shitposting.
>chuds
you will never be a woman. never!

>>17411359
Literally the opposite is happening. The last 3 threads have been amazing.

>>17410949
>>17410865
This captured sffg for a few year, everthing has changed.

>>17411336
Because gorrdamn scylvendi keep breaking down my shitty wall

>>17411420
The dark and backwards times before the coming of the light of the Aspect-Author.

>>17411420
>sanderson doesn't write anime
no, anime has better dialogue

>>17411441
>Aspect-Author

zozzle

for real though, you're all racist and sexist and need to be banned so that /sffg/ can once again discuss actual authors like jemisin

>>17411396
People were talking about a new book, and the only people who had a problem with it were you and your discordfag friends who started shitting up the general in November.

>>17411359
>>17411490
cope

>>17411420
Pretty clear proof that this general has been invaded by outside shitposters.

I'm reading Warhammer 40k books!

There's nothing you can do to stop me!

I honestly don't know why some people are bitching about shit-posting. This general was great until now.

>>17411404
Those boobs were clearly photoshopped.

>>17411583
You're the problem. That's why you don't care.

>>17411582
You don't seem to realize that a lot of those in the thread do. They're mentioned a lot.

>>17411636
You're the only one who's clearly bothered. So I don't see how the rest of us are the problem. No one's forcing you to stay here.

Are you simply angry that people post about Bakker? I see plenty of other books being discussed in peace in this same thread.

>>17411651
Yeah who could be upset about wojacks and pepes and random text dumps and the exact same bait posts spammed every single thread? Fuck off.

>>17411663
What a mature reaction from your part. No one is forcing you to engage with the meme posters. I seriously do not understand how people can be annoyed by memes.

>>17411622
false

>>17411420
it really was that bad

>>17411663
It looks to me that you're mad because some one made memes about you.

>>17411068
same

I'm about 2/3rds through Second Apocalypse.

Think I'll read Canticle for Leibowitz after.

What are some other weird fiction works that delve into religion with an epic scope?

>>17409507
Is anything from Stephen King even good? I know that he's very popular, but I rarely see him posted here.

>>17408093
>>17408105
>>17408143
>>17408739

Thank you fellas.

>when you're the first and only gaylord in the whole thread unironically referencing sanderson enjoyers 11 posts in

>>17408083
I remember reading Hitchhiker's guide in like middle school. I've always been an avid reader, but my first true obsession was and always will be Animorphs from about 6 years old.

Was I the only one here who didn't read Harry Potter?

>barely 10 books have been mentioned in over 100 posts
This general is dead.

>>17411905
>3.7 posts per user
i’ve seen far worse

>>17411905
I don't see a book in your post.

>>17411420
what happened to the guy posting the awful Wolfe memes composed of photoshops of like microsoft wordart onto real photos

tell me I didn't dream them

>>17411903
me neither.
Really the whole premise seemed cliché as fuck.

>>17411927
I cannot force myself to read a book after I see the respective movie.

>>17411905
dying genres on a dying board on a dying website by a dying generation

post a book or fuck off wankmerchant

>>17411896
Dankje

>>17411958
>It’s all dying
>It’s all over
>Just shitposting for nobody in the darkness of the void
I feel this, anon.

>>17408701
As always you are the shining star of this thread yev.

>>17411926
Naw. I just gave up on sffg. The community that memed died off. I haven't made a meme in 2 years .

>>17411986
Wrong. Anyone using a tripcode should be banned. Anyone shilling their reviews should be banned.

"Come... I want to discuss the shit between us."

>>17412048
The guy is the only one here doing proper reviews.

>>17411958
>>17411918
There are no books in your posts either, you baiting faggots.
It might surprise you, but I actually like literature more than the indulging in shitposting. I don't use this general as if it was my own discord server nor am I here to pass the day posting nonsense like an utter retard. When people ask for recs or opinions, I try to give them. When I'm looking for something to read or some book catches my eye, I ask questions. For most of the books I've read for the past half year I've blogged about my progress and initial impressions and a brief review when I'm done. I even post my review charts from time to time.
Before the Sandershits and the Bakkerbots started literally spamming (at least the Sanderfags discussed their shitty books) about 2 months ago, I used to get one promising book every other thread to add to my backlog. Now people don't even mention books.

Want a book? How about Eifelheim, which I asked about 10 threads ago and, even though a couple anons said they were interested, they haven't posted anything afaik?

>>17412123
Don't care.

>>17409982
you saw how it is there with his mother, they relive painful and happy memories while yatwer siphons feelings. Not really pleasant but better than the pit.

>>17411958
speaking of dying, anybody read Dying Earth or Jack Vance in general? i've heard lots of good things.

Daily reminder.

OH how i hate this place

>>17412170
I liked that first book. Will be reading more.

>>17412106
Reviews are worthless.

>>17412170
>>17412230
Any books similar to this?

>>17412170
No, it's only one of the books most talked about here.

>>17412234
I don't disagree with you, but I still like to know if a book is worth my time.

Why didn't any one tell me that the Wheel of Time was trash?

>>17412239
Look at the dying earth chart.

>>17412269
its alright anon, if u like anime

>>17412254
The only way to know is to try it yourself. The only opinion that matters n is your own. Discussion is worthless.

>>17412269
You don't read the threads. Tons of anons constantly are saying it's trash.

>>17412274

The first book felt like bad LotR fanfiction. Like an experimental book in a way. The ending felt strange to me.
The second was pretty good.
The third was OK.
By the forth book, I realized that it was the same thing over and over again. A lot of travel, and something that happens in the end.

>>17412234
idk this guy's kinda funny
https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/210180755

>>17412301
Let guess, it's your review, or someone you have a crush on.

>>17412301
>>17412234
>>17412254

I thought this guy was based: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h3SrmGvdZM

>>17412313
no just a guy who hates modern mainstream fantasy as much as /lit/ does

>>17412319
>booktuber
What a wretched sight. Its vileness makes me retch.

>>17412123
I've added Eifelheim to my backlog, but haven't got around to reading it, yet.

>>17412329
You aren't in /lit/. I think you need to wander out.

>>17412343
You won't ever get around to it.

>>17412347
lol just the kind of pedantry you love to see in this place

>>17412301
only meme reviews are entertaining, kinda like this

https://www.goodreads.com/review/show/2299009311?book_show_action=true&from_review_page=1

>>17412361
Thanks, I hate it.

>>17412374
I don't think you understand what meme reviews are.

Why is the market so saturated with shit? I had high hopes that self publishing would at least allow us to find some good writers.

Maybe I'm speaking from a place of ignorance, but did you guys ever find good sff writers that self publish?

>>17412389
that guy is taking the piss

>>17412398
No, you just think he is.

>>17412374
>>17412398
I haven't read three-body problem so i have no idea how this is supposed to be a "meme review"

>>17412392
There's nothing that isn't yet. It takes centuries of refinement and then centuries of consideration to create anything of quality.

>>17412407
It's about the problems with asking your gf for a 3some.

>>17409571
Try some Philip K. Dick. Some of his books are terrible, though, and some of his later ones (e.g. VALIS) shouldn't be the ones you start out with. Try one of these:
>Ubik
>The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch
>Flow My Tears The Policeman Said
>A Scanner Darkly

Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? is the main one people try first due to Blade Runner, but due to clunky writing it can be off-putting.

>>17412427
All genre writing is clunky at best. That's what makes it genre.

>>17412358
fuck off, you don't know me.
>not part of a series
>setting is historic/sci-fi mixture, which I love
chances are, I'll read it in the next 1-3 months

>>17412440
Prove it.

>>17408083
My parents got me into reading at a very young age so I honestly can't tell you what specific book got me into reading. I do have fond memories of The Magic Treehouse, Hardy Boys, Animorphs, various CYOA books and plenty more.

>>17412440
>fuck off, you don't know me.
You need to be 18 to post here.

>>17412436
The start of Androids is even clunkier than the usual first-draft-no-revision Dick style. All that fucking around with the mood organ.

>>17412449
It should be a lot higher than 18, or at least require a pass to post.

>>17412427
>started with VALIS
>now read more Dick than anyone else ITT
feels good man
I'd disregard Flow My Tears (because it's Jason-is-a-narcissist-and-wants-to-fuck-every-female TRASH for its entire length) and substitute something good in its place, like Martian Time-Slip, Time Out of Joint, Clans of the Alphane Moon, or even Maze of Death.

>>17412444
thanks for the encouragement. will leave some shitty post here.

>>17412464
should be behind a paywall desu. and you should have to enter your SSN

>>17412462
If he had been paid more than a pittance it would been much better.

>>17412467
It's doubtful that you have.

>>17412470
Should prove that you're not a virgin desu.

>>17412470
SSN is only for Americans. Should be a retinal scan at the least.

>>17412319
this guy seems boring as hell.

>>17412501
>implying that's a bad thing
Maybe pic related is what you're looking for.

>>17412511
yes, it is a bad thing actually

>>17412501
That's completely irrelevant, is it not? So what that my videos are boring?

All the guy is doing is reviewing good books. He's not there to entertain you.

>>17412549
>So what that my videos are boring?
So why would anyone watch them then, Eagle's Books?

>He's not there to entertain you.
Then why did you upload them?

>>17412467
>>now read more Dick than anyone else ITT

I'm working towards it with his novels. 10 still to go, but 6 of those are some of his realist/mainstream novels. I've read 3 of the realist ones already (Confessions of a Crap Artist, Mary and the Giant, In Milton Lumky Territory) and they're okay, but they're basically Richard Yates-lite.

>>17412549
He is there to entertain if he wants to make any money at all.

>>17412567
>Confessions of a Crap Artist
What did you think of this one? It may be the most... I don't even know how to describe it? Best book at showing subjective views and reality-tunnels or a significantly accurate attempt at transcribing qualia. I liked it for that.
I have an ebook omnibus of his short stories if you want although it may be easy to find at the usual places too.

>>17412549
It doesn't matter that you deleted the post. It lives on forever in the archives. I can still see it. I have it where deleted posts stay cached as well.

>>17412549
>deleting his samefag
lawl

>>17412580
>I have it where deleted posts stay cached as well.
What is this? Never heard of it.

>>17412579
Different anon. If it's all his stories it'd be thousands of pages, as per the several volumes of the series of his collected works.

>>17412579
It's definitely the best of his realist books I've read - I can see why it was the only one of those actually published in his lifetime. The others I've read are much more mundane, and don't have much to distinguish them from other general fiction of the time.

Most of his books (including the story collections) are on lib gen. A lot of the newer posts there are the retail versions too, much better than old OCRed versions riddled with errors.

>>17412591
Yes, it's literally a compilation of his five short story collections.

>>17412587
no u

>>17412511
No, that looks boring as well.

>>17412531
Ok, zoomer.

>>17412688
I accept your defeat.

>>17412700
And I accept your surrender.

What's with all this Sanderson hate?
Don't bully me, but he's my favorite writer

>>17411914
1:5~
Not looking good.

>>17412745
And you're not helping.

>>17412182
O B S E S S E D

>>17412708
Your utter submission to me is appreciated.

>>17412721
You deserved to be bullied until you recant that statement.

>>17412745
>Doesn't like vigorous and vibrant back and forth posting

>>17412769
What's wrong with witty inclusive fantasy? It's comfy and it makes me feel safe. No distracting realism and horrible characters. It's quite great.

>>17412758
S E E T H I N G

>>17412721
It's just one psychologically broken autismo who literally can't stop thinking about how much he hates Sanderson and therefore everyone else should to and if you don't he's going to spend the rest of the thread sperging out at you for wrongthink.
Watch the replies.

>>17412791
>projecting
Do you literally enjoy nothing? All you can do is make new memes about your own personal Voldemort?

>>17412792
>>17412795
Oh no no no no no: >>17408674

>>17412785
Literature is meant to transgressive and uncomfortable filled with hard truths.

>>17409732
>But yes, my English is not good enough when it comes to some retarded words of Latin origin.
What language is your native one then?

>>17407331
face it readcucks, the future of sci fi/fantasy literature is on audiobooks

>>17412795
Enjoyment is a distraction at best.

>>17412792
But why though? I've also seen a lot of people complaining about his characters, specially Shallan. I don't understand, I think that she's brilliantly written. I also like that he took the time to explore realistic mental health issues in his latest book.

>>17412843
The future is mindscapes. The present is audiobooks.

>>17412795
I just wanted to tell you that I didn't do those memes.

>>17412801
>yes, the only enjoyment I derive in life is from shitting on things other people enjoy
Just as long as you're honest about what a broken schizophrenic twat you are, I suppose.

>>17412792
I for one don't like Sanderson because I was tricked into reading Mistborn, thinking it was some great modern classic, and it turned out to be ya tier trash.

>>17412862
>I enjoy being humiliated on a daily basis.

There really is a fetish for everything. Don't worry, I'm not judging.

>>17412847
It's unironic mental illness so bad, I'm still half-convinced you're just h trying to bait positive words about Shallan so he can "take an epic word shit on the worst character in literature history". I should've said contagious, his unironic mental illness is clearly contagious.

>>17412857
>I just spent hours having them commissioned in my favorite discord/subreddit
Is that less embarrassing?

>>17412887
Not really. I was really offended though.
Can you imagine? Some one did those and I wasn't even consulted!

>>17412878
Wait what? I unironically love Shallan, she reminds me of myself.

>>17412879
>it's somehow less embarrassing because I instigate shit 24/7
How old are you? In what universe do you think I find being so embedded in that mealy slurry you call a brain that you come into every thread trying to reap (You)'s from me personally like an autistic Skinner rat "humiliating"? Unironically re-evaluate your entire existence.

>>17409003
Can i get a quick rundown why this is considered bad to a point of reposting it? My little ESL brain can't grasp it.

>>17412879
Does anyone have the one where he says "All the studies I've read tell me this is the ideal way to live pal" or whatever

>>17412869
The only time I've ever read Sanderson was also Mistborn. I agree with you.

>>17412961
Because it's unironically the worst thing he could find that's "bad on purpose" and not an illiterate orphan.

>>17412999
>"bad on purpose"

What sort of cope is this?

>>17412879
Destiny is the best streamer!

>>17413023
Cope that isn't cope.

>>17407331
>"Artwork" Edition.

>>17412392
Because a lot of self-published material is fan fiction tier at best. I'd only pay attention to the self-published stuff that later got picked up by a publisher.

>>17413162
>>17407331
>log onto /sffg/
>100+ posts of meaningless bitching about trivial nonsense
Posting artwork.

>>17413246
Blanche

>>17413255
Túrin by Howe

>>17408083
Redwall and the Spooks series. Still remember cutting my finger on the old edition book cover, and scaring myself shitless reading it when I was really young.

>>17408105
God I fucking loved eragon. Can't even bare to reread it now, but that was the absolute shit when growing up.

>>17413263
Gondolin by Nasmith

>>17413291
Another view

>>17413299
Lee

>>17412123

Eifelheim is wholesome KINO.

>>17413303
Blanche

>>17412269
Because you expected too much from it. To use an analogy sffg will understand, it’s like Sanderson tier, but without most of the stuff people make fun of Sanderson for.

>>17413162
I like this artist. Here’s her take on Esmi.

>>17413303
>>17413299
>>17413291
>>17413313
>filenames

Where did you get these from? Is that from a repository or something?

>>17413336
Fuck, I've never seen that one. Looks incredible.

>>17413303
Lee - Erebor

>post artwork
>alan lee - nargothrond
>>17413338
just casually phoneposting, fren
it doesn’t all have to be endless retarded shillfag wars in this general

>>17413321
I mean, Sanderson literally wrote the last three books

>>17413382
>>17413382
>>17413382

>>17413382
>>17413382
>>17413382

>>17413382
>>17413382
>>17413382

>>17413291
I used this for the next thread. Hope you don't mind.

>>17407931
She won an award 3 years in a row for being HUGO MUNGUS

>>17410443
you're forgetting

black
alien
seed

>>17411622
they weren't, it's just a t-girl, appropriately enough for that author

>>17413429
wrong

>>17412855
VR? Just got a Quest 2 and was fucking around with it. Could be pretty sweet.

>>17412869
>>17412979
Fuck you guys, I got it on a 2 for one special on Audible with another book I was buying anyways.

A

>>17413826
have fun being bored i guess