/lit/ - Literature

Lots of old fags are really bitter toward young guys because we're all openly gay and getting married and living kick-ass lives whereas they had to spend almost their whole lives getting hastily delivered fluids in a nasty public bathroom.

I never read this book, but I can tell you young gay guys live totally different lives than old gay ones did/do.

>>17380838
And yet, you understand nothing.

>>17380838
Not to mention the old gays had to live through what was essentially a homo plague

>>17381088
What am I meant to understand that I don't? Enlighten me.

>>17381101
'Gay life' in the 70's and early-80's seems like a wild time. Gay clubs were loosely-regulated and quasi-illegal in many places, which means they were often associated with criminals and crime groups. Lots of violence, human trafficking, the occasional serial killer, and then AIDS.

>>17381110
How much more fun it was back then. You're like a domesticated hamster compared to the crazy shit we used to do when being gay was practically punishable by death. It's the difference in lifestyles between early oldschool punks and shit like imagine dragons.

>>17381110
Modern gays are basically the modern popular dissident. They are mentally ill preem addicts.

>>17381101
Everywhere outside of Africa it remains a homo plague.

>>17380838
hasily deliver me fluids in a public bathroom daddy

>>17380838
>living kick-ass lives
t. p-zombie

I heard there was a part about a basement room in a gay club in the manhattan meatpacking district where there was a bath tub that everyone would piss in and by the end of the night dudes would be soaking in piss, i was like yo wtf

>>17380805
It has a funny name!

>>17380838
The common ground you share is that you both need to repent

>>17380838
I wouldn't worry too much. The old timers also get a sweet deal, they get to fuck the youngsters without fear of being jailed because they have a lot of money.

>>17380838
General bitchiness about the past and about how heckin epic the struggle to fight the man was is typical boomer behavior, faggot or not. Why are boomers like this bros?

>>17380805
Clearly. The closet had the advantage of keeping the edgy bohemian cachet intact. Now the James Charleses of the world are abrasively loud and proud to the point where it’s generating actual antipathy and mistrust that wasn’t there prior. Cali legalizing premeditated pozzing for instance

>>17383837
This. Boomer Queers dial their cgenerational egregiousness to eleven. Pic related

>>17380805
it holds some valid criticism about gay culture's obsession with sex, and serves as a retroactive condemnation of it in the wake of the aids crisis. Mostly though, its just a really funny and absurd book. I'm bi, read this for fun, and I had a grand ol time. It's satire. Kramer supposedly wrote it as a way to get back at his exboyfriend, whom he eventually married anyway. So it was all kind of shat out in frustration with the gay community.

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>>17384067
what? james charles has done more to humanize gay people than anyone else on the planned, my right wing nut parents love his videos and have completely 180'd on gay marriage because he's so sassy and they are ESL so his content is viewer friendly (visual).

>>17385125
>There are 2,556,596 faggots in the New York City area. The largest number, 983,919, live in Manhattan. 186,991 live in Queens, or just across the river. 181,236 live in Brooklyn and 180,009 live in the Bronx. 2,469 live on Staten Island, substantiating the old theory that faggots don't like to travel or don't like to live on small islands, depending on which old theory you've heard and/or want substantiated.

>Westchester and Dutchess Counties, together with that part of New Jersey which is really suburban New York, hold approximately 297,852, though this figure may be a bit low. Long Island, or that which is beyond Queens, at last count numbered 211,910. (This goes all the way to Montauk, remember.) Suburban Connecticut (not primarily of concern here, nor for that matter are suburban New Jersey or suburban New York - but you might as well have the advantage of all the statistics, since they were exhaustively collected), which includes the heavily infested Danbury triangle area, has 211,910 also, which makes it a sister statistic to Long Island, which is as it should be since the two share a common Sound.

>There are now more faggots in the New York City area than Jews. There are now more faggots in the entire United States than all the yids and kikes put together. (This is subsidiary data, not overtly relevant, but ipso facto nevertheless.)

>Larry Kramer, 'Faggots' (1978)

Is this true, /lit/? Is the entire NYC area basically one big gay orgy?

>>17380838
Do homosexual men really get married in droves these days? Are they monogamous?

Are homosexual relations rightly to be considered equal to heterosexual ones?

>>17385273
>really get married in droves

Kind of, yes.

>Are they monogamous?

Hahaha no. No, no no.

>>17385286
Of coursh

>>17385290
Then why would they get married at all?

>>17385257
>There are now more faggots in the New York City area than Jews. There are now more faggots in the entire United States than all the yids and kikes put together.
this is the funniest thing I've read for a while

>>17385311
They will answer “muh legal and economic advantages” but in reality they take pleasure in profaning the sacred institution.
Marriage only makes sense between a man and a woman.

>>17382132
extremely based

All gays go to hell

>>17385528
Marriage isn’t really an institution... it’s a sacrament. Allowing the government to issue marriage licenses in the first place was a mistake. It’s a purely religious issue. Only God can sanctify and sanction a marriage.

>>17386241
It's a good thing for civilization to be pro family as this is the social body which thrives but also happens to be the potential existence which carries with it some or almost all of the better human tendencies. Think: what kind of existence do humans have if they are productively directed into career, family, and the eudaimonia that might come to exist? It's a better one than any alternative i can see. A family also prepares your character and creates truer stewards of society, as opposed to vapid, stuffed shirt ideologues and their denizens of people directly or indirectly influenced and given opinions by whoever controls the flow of information.
People shouldn't be coerced into starting a family, but state power should establish a sound precedent for having "start a family " to be a general rule for what people should do with themselves. It should be facilitated and protected. Like, pornography is anti family because it poisons the minds of the youth. It is a dead end, they are taking your time and making money, they bring into existence carnal lusts which dull the minds particularly when used in an addiction, it is deliberately made available, sex work is monetizable and potentially highly lucrative. Fetish lifestyle warps and makes depraved; men it does not make. The proper use of sexually is to make baby. Baby cared for properly, better world, better nation. Eating mistresses poo poo? My hot and controversial alt right take is that this is an unhealthy use of human sexuality, and it is deliberately brought into existence and proliferated by billionaires that nobody itt will ever meet.

Anyway the tldr is that state power is necessary to facilitate proper human development. The individual exists in this body, the nation.
I dont require all to subscribe to correct sexuality (the one that produces the best people as described above), this is a false dilemma, but proper sexuality and human behavior in general needs to be the general rule if the nation is to be "healthy." the precedents being set, so that posterity might step into their roles and become the kind of people that can build civilization properly and thrive.
Stepping into a role dissipates friction and wayward and fruitless ventures. People should undergo a discipline process generally, as public school is cucked and not based nor redpilled in the slightest( but it's better than nothing)

>>17386208
uh oh based

>>17386838
Start with the Greeks.