/lit/ - Literature

>>17367365
That's what most of the Greek tragedies are

>>17367365
great expectations, most of the old testament... unfortunately all i got

>>17367365
Candide

>>17367365
the odyssey, but stop right as odysseus is being abused by the suitors.

>>17367365

Mcgregor never had grace, dignity or worth. He got famous and wealthy by starving himself to emaciation to beat up smaller men. Once he fought at his own weight he was exposed, hes a fraud.

>>17367372
Name a few for me? What tragedian does it best?
>>17367399
I disagree, guy had talent but wasted pretty much all of it

>>17367365
what happened to him

>>17367425
as he aged he couldn't cut weight any more and had to fight people his own size

>>17367431
why didn't he just tren harder

>>17367410
The Bacchae and Other Plays is pretty great

>>17367410
Oedipus Rex, but you have to read the Theban plays on the whole.

>>17367365
Why is he so sleepy?

Plutarch, Life of Demetrius

imagine finding fighting interesting
>GUY IS YOUNG HE IS BEATING MANY OPPONENTS
>OMG HE GOT OLDER AND STOPPED WINNING
what a fucking galactic mystery behind it all, truly you could spend your whole life watching this pattern again and again

>>17367399
You can't fraud about your weight. You either have it or you don't.

>>17367473
imagine not being able to appreciate the subtle intricacies of martial arts

>>17367479
the subtle intricacy of man punch man until man lose conscious

>>17367399
>He got famous and wealthy by starving himself to emaciation to beat up smaller men.
if that's all it took everyone would do it

i have more respect for Video Gamers, who at least participate in their hobby, than in men who watch fights to viscerally simulate what it might be like to hypothetically inhabit their gender role

>weight classes
>the heavier guys are 30lbs more than the lighter ones
How does this work lol? Do the guys at the top of the weight class just destroy everyone else?

>mfw thinking about "small joint manipulation"

>>17367477

Its not as big a thing in mma as it is in boxing. Journeymen from a higher weight division can lose a lot of weight to become a replacement for a championship fight If the contender drops out suddenly during fight camp and theres no suitable replacements in the division or the division below.

These fighters even though average in their division, usually destroy their opponents.

Thats why i said hes a fraud, i dont dispute hes a capable fighter, but at his natural weight he is average. He cant compete with the elite. I should have said hype job not fraud though ill give you that.

You can read the autobiographies about Lance Armstrong before he was found to be a drug cheater, then watch one of the films like "Stop At Nothing."

Definitely absurd to hear the story of how he beats testicular cancer and goes on to win another 4 or 5 tour de Frances but you know that his legacy will be tarnished. It was wild seeing him on Joe Rogan discussing how he has to talk to his daughters about his cheating because her class mates know who he is.

>>17367365

>>17367498
a big part of combat sports is cutting weight, so it's not even what weight class you fit in to normal walking around, it's can you sweat off 10 pounds of water weight the night before the fight to make weight, and then rehydrate back up after the fight. that's why you see dudes who looks skinny with no muscle who hit like mules for example prime kelly pavlik, its cuz he would cut weight way down, and look skinny with loose muscle, but his still got the skeleton of a big guy to generate torque from even though he's fighting a low weight

>>17367562
was it only blood doping? how effective even is that

>>17367557
this makes literally no sense you faggot
>his natural weight
what natural weight, you can have any amount of muscle and fat

>>17367568
>the fight
after the weigh-in i meant

>>17367570
No he took every PED he could find.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2012/oct/11/lance-armstrong-drugs

It's hard to believe his PED use didn't have something to do with his testicular cancer tbqh

>>17367571
in fight shape there are only so many configurations of muscle and fat that are going to be competitive and none of them are what you would walk around at when you're not in training camp, plebs don't know about all the nuances to the sweet science i see

>>17367581
You say he's cheating by going down a class, but if he is at the very bottom of the next class up, then the guys at the top of that class are 'cheating' when they fight him

>>17367579
based

>>17367584
i'm not saying he's cheating, idk maybe the other guy is, what i'm saying is there are many strategies in combat sports, and aggressively cutting weight to have a size advantage on fight night is certainly one of them, the problem is, it's a lot harder to keep doing it as you age, so people who depend on big weight cuts are the first to go when they age, while heavy weights who don't have to cut, and depend mainly on power over speed, can be competitive into their 40s

my diary desu

does anyone know how to find all the good videos that used to be on youtube? I try liveleak but there isn't shit.

Youtube is totally censored now. I want the video of the guy being caught blood doping in a hotel

>>17367600
>record scratch
>you're probably wondering how I got here

>>17367365
Conor McGregor did not fall from grace, but, rather, he is endowed with grace, but gradually distanced himself from martial arts, and from combat sports —which helped with entelechially propelling his grace—, and therefore from excellence.

I miss years 2014 and 2015, when he was at the height of his glory & humility, and when the vulgus was less of aware of him.

>>17367623
McGregor has never been humble, the fuck are you talking about? He was good in 2014 and 2015, but he was also as cocky

>>17367667
You ignore what humility is.

>>17367365
L'argent by Zola

>>17367398
Top fekin kek

>>17367473
There's no mystery. There's no secret. Fighting is pure spectacle, and I love every moment of it. Fuck you btw

>>17367399
>he deliberately lowered his body mass and muscle mass to defeat people with less body mass and muscle mass
Do you really believe that is how it works?

>>17367867
it's like when a man takes estrogen and then fights women in mma, he still has a bigger frame

>>17367365
The Leopard.
Also the first real "adult book" I read of my own volition.

>>17367867

Most of it is water weight not muscle mass. They call it being dry. Watch the gatti vs gamache ko on youtube. Gatti was 15lbs heavier and his punches are devastating.

>>17367708
you hate me because i clearly articulate the base and vulgar nature of your interests
nothing wrong with that
it's just basic

>>17367880
gamache literally never recovered, i read a thing in one of the local ny papers when gatti croaked and they had some comments from him and he was bitter if i remember correctly but mostly that the boxing commission allowed it

>>17367888

I thought gatti was murdered by a Brazilian girlfriend?

>>17367903
he killed himself but the extreme gatti fanbois in nj refused to believed such a warrior could take his own life. if you look at all the suicides from people with brain injuries from football, it's not hard to admit that he did it

>>17367867
Old scam. If you're in the right body type range you can drop ideally, down below your class, an ounce below the line before you drink your water weight back. Anyone who can't do this is fucked.
15 lbs and 4 inch reach helps a little.

>>17367365
I come from the dessert in tent, from people trading camels. Rise like a king, fight like a lion, create highest standard of living in whole Africa and Arab world for all Libyan people . People have real freedom to make own decisions over own life in a Popular Peoples Congress .

Yes, I died by brutal violence like all lions do.

Seek power with people not above them , get united by love to your families and keep popular peoples congress all over the world.

...and I really enjoyed fancy dresses and shiny things too ... I am just a human a human like you.

>>17367918
also for context 15 pounds in a 140 pound weight class is huge, that takes him from light welter all the way into middle weight!

>>17367914

I think she had him killed by brazilian corruption covered it up, i remember Acelino Freitas heavy suggesting that.

I dont remember the details but his body was exhumed a few years after his death and they concluded he was most likely murdered because he took life insurance out a month before his death or made a will or something.

>>17367365
Rule of the People by Popular Peoples Congress
https://youtu.be/p_eyqjNgg1E

>>17367945
i read somewhere that people around him had talked him into investing in some big condo development in canada, and his death was less than a year into the housing crash, makes you wonder how his finances were, looks like it might have been a 25th hour situation where the girl is the only one looking out for him while all the other people around him are enabling him

>>17367365
Who is this person in the picture?
One of those football throwers or something?

>>17367365
Death in Venice

>>17367473
Ancient Greeks loved wrestling and ancient Greeks were right about everything therefore fighting is good for the soul

>>17367479
The only martial art with subtle intricacies is sports fencing

>>17367365
King Lear

>>17367477
https://www.quora.com/How-do-weigh-ins-work-in-fighting-Why-do-fighters-weigh-more-than-their-weight-class-limit-on-fight-night
^Here's better explained

Tldr it's basically cheating but everybody does it so it's somehow ok

>>17367562
To be fair, PEDs were just about standard practice in cycling at the time, Lance just got made the poster boy.

>>17367365
THE IRISH ARE LITERAL WHITE NIGGERS

>>17367365
The House of Mirth

>>17367937
There’s nothing that prevents the other fighter from also dropping water weight for the weigh in...

>>17367365

The real question is why has his striking become worse? He has proper kinetic linking in most pre-2016 footage then suddenly starts throwing arm punches and shit. Maybe Nate hits really hard?

>>17367365
Conor was talented but his ego was just too large. He cared more about being a flashy, rich celebrity than about being the greatest fighter. When it comes down to it he was just a typical Irish chav with a loud mouth.

>>17367473

>>17368151
It's famous boxer, Candor McGoober.

>>17367457
Nice

>>17367365
He still got 100 mil

>>17370017

>>17370192
gladiators gonna gladiate

>>17370212
Impressive, you managed to make it more embarrassing than it already was.

>>17368881
thats a decent argument but they also participated in it, unlike faggot MMA fans who debate the every contraction of another man's muscles while eating Chicken Wings on the couch.

>>17367936
sweet dreams general

>>17369970
You fell for that? Its called playing a character to make money. Duh.

>>17367431
Always thought he was overestimated. Never understood the hype around him. Ronaldo Souza, for example, among others, was completely ignored by everybody, altought he is globally more talented than McGregor. Is it the nice suits? The accent? The fact that he clashed opponents?

>>17367365
Paradise lost

>>17367473
what an absolute smoothbrain

>>17367594
>it's a lot harder to keep doing it as you age.
Fast 10 days 2 months before the fight. Loose around 7-8 kilos. As you break your fast, only do cardio, no weight lifting. So you won't regain all of your muscle mass, but you'll still keep most of your strength. You'll also get slightly better in cardio.
That's what i would do.

>>17367609
lol, story?

>>17370487
most mma fans train mma.

>>17367399
Well in the world we live in that's how you get to the top. Don't hate the player hate the game.

>>17372170
it's that he's an arrogant loudmouth cunt who appeals to the dumbfuck masses who eat that up and worship that kind of behavior. also nice flashy knockouts. that's all there is to it.

>>17367399
>losing lightweight record
Alright casual lol.

>>17367479
I think fighting is very interesting but MMA just bores me to tears

>>17367399
>Kebab walks around at 200 and refuse to fight at welterweight, but Gooby who fought at both featherweight, lightweight and welterweight is a cutbaby for doing so

>>17367473
I’d say you have a point, but in this case McGregor fought another man who is the same age (both 32). And only pussyboi faggots don’t find fighting interesting. It’s the original sport. Way less gay than watching some pampered douchebags throwing a little ball through a little hoop or something similar.

>>17372266
gay sex with men doesnt count as "training mma"

>>17367881
There's a whole community for people like you and it starts with "r", lowercase of course

>>17372491
Yeah, guys who care about being in shape and knowing how to fight are TOTALLY GAY right? Haha. Chicks don’t even like guys with muscles anyways, they like guys who are well versed in poetry and continental philosophy. If you read enough books they’ll look past the fact that you have the body of a prepubescent boy. These chuds hitting the gym should work smarter, not harder!

>>17372544
you're doing a great job not appearing gay

>>17372266
No.
Most are BJJ Nerds at best, it's probably the sport with the lowest ratio of practicioners per fans, probably lower than horse riding.

>>17372440
>It’s the original sport.
no sports are interesting
man runs ball down field fast. wow! great job!
man clobbers man unconscious. amazing!
you need <100iq to find these events as captivating as you do

>>17372791
You’re a weak faggot and no girls want to touch your weewee.

>>17373614
chimpanzee insults from the sportscuck, shocking stuff. go watch some sweaty men grapple.

>>17372786
What the fuck does this even mean? The ratio of MMA fans who go to fighting gyms is probably way higher than the number of football fans who are actual members of amateur football clubs. Playing a game of catch 5 years ago on Thanksgiving is as much participating in football as getting into a drunk fistfight at a bar is participating in MMA.

>>17367365
Mark Twain's "Pudd'nhead Wilson."

>>17372544
insecure much

>>17374212
Ah yes, the “if you disagree with me you’re insecure” argument.

This really is the most insufferable board; full of self-important twats. At least on /fit/ the posters help one another out and don’t constantly cut other people down.

>>17373640
I could have spent more time articulating an actual argument, but it would be lost on someone like you. You’re the kind of person who attempts to justify their own personal deficiencies in physical matters by downplaying the significance of such things.

>>17372230
>cross country skier gets caught in the middle of a blood transfusion in a hotel
and some doctor eventually got caught who was behind it all.

>>17370042
Oh, a pugilist.
They don't appear as noble as in my day.

>>17374242
>At least on /fit/ the posters help one another out and don’t constantly cut other people down.
what are you talking about. /fit/ is the most catty board on this damn website

>>17367557
Why doesn't everyone do it and become champion?

Decline of the Roman Empire

Children of Hurin