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>There is nothing more real than your own pain
You can not refute this.

>> No.17359814

>>17359808
How are we determining a scale for realness here?

>> No.17359815

>>17359808
What are you talking about, anon? I used to be in a lot of pain and be completely 'out of reality.'

>> No.17359817

>implying you can perceive the real

>> No.17359849

>pain
>real
Lmao no.

>> No.17359940

>>17359808
if that is true then you can literally bend reality with pain killers and become a god

>> No.17360020
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On the contrary, it is the greatest illusion. Al-Haqq, the truth, the reality, is Allah. Your own pain is the most vivid and acute expression of the nafs which does nothing but spiritually spin in circles and disorient you.

>> No.17360038

>>17359808
there is nothing less real. of the senses our sense of pain is the least objective. when it comes to emotional pain identical circumstances produce extremely different results in two individuals which can only be measured in the most indirect ways. moreover a given individual can outgrow an emotional pain in very short time. perhaps what he meant is that nothing has a greater affect on you than your own suffering. this is only true of certain individuals. there are those for whom the suffering of others is more worrying than their own.

>> No.17360045

>>17359940
"I could be bounded in a nutshell, and count myself a king of infinite space, were it not that I have bad dreams."

>> No.17360046

Peterson is a closet materialist. Reducing metaphysics to "bro its just your mind and evolution". I hate psychologists.

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>>17360046
It's a metaphor, just think about it differently and it works

>> No.17361436

I didn't know he said that because it's an old idea, but it's completely true. You can't deny pain. In that way it's the reales of things. When you can deny it it's not pain.

>> No.17361441

>>17359808
Love is more real, and so is fear. Pain, as tedious and horrible as it is, is nothing compared to the fear surrounding it.

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>>17360020
Based

>> No.17361449

"objectiveness" does not exist and anyone who doesn't understand this is not intelligent.

>> No.17361455

where is the scientific proof on this?

>> No.17361465

True. The fire melting your flesh is not muted by any ampunt of nihilism or solipsism.

>> No.17361701

>>17359808
and? i dont understand what am i supposed to take away from this statement,?

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>>17361465

>> No.17361753

>>17361465
Your statement only supports that the fire is 'more real' etc

>> No.17361780

>>17361753
more real than what? the pain? how so?

>> No.17361787

>>17359808
If it were "real," then there'd be some kind of objective test for it. But there is no objective test, proven by how easy it is to get pills by telling your doctor to have back pain. Go on, op. Try it

>> No.17361805

>>17359808
like most things this absolute hack says, its too vague to refute or to even analyse
>>17360020
basado

>> No.17361907

>>17361787
It's real because it's not objective. That's the whole point.