/lit/ - Literature

>>17350870
Frog Jesus... easy on insects.

>>17351313
he croaked for your sins

>>17350870
Zarathustra

>>17350870
>>17351313
>>17351314
Is this sincere ironic cringe?

>>17351369
post ironic

>>17350870
The veda

>>17350870
Divine Comedy
Paradise Lost

>>17350870
Paradise lost, crime and punishment, the divine comedy, The Brothers Karamazov, master and margarita, Jane eyre, orthodoxy and The Everlasting Man, the pilgrim’s progress, lord of the rings, Harry Potter, wise blood, Narnia, The confessions of a justified sinner, the spire, Laurus.

>>17350870
I wish could go back in time and give advanced technology and books from the future to help the romans obliterate Judea and its people forever.

>>17351588
god would just kill you

>>17350870
morte de arthur
pilgrims progress

>>17351588
seethe more pagan larper

>>17351588
Be careful. The romans would use it to obliterate krauts first.

Gravity's Rainbow

Why don’t you read some Christian romance novels?

>>17351602
>god would just kill you
Baal? Yahweh? Or the Greco-Judean one that’s an incarnation of god as a Jewish carpenter?
>>17351607
> seethe more pagan larper
Opposing the historical subversion of our entire society from a desert tribe that gets by through the parasitic and questionable methods (even their myths weren’t that original) shouldn’t be controversial.
>>17351614
If it’s not extinction and judea still gets obliterated, it would be better for the krauts in the end.

>>17351681

>>17351588
Romans didn’t mind jews so long as they weren’t rebelling. In fact, they would often settle Jews as colonisers in German lands they conquered.

Is there any instance of the jew god being referred to as father before yeshua?

>>17351746
Isiah 53:16
But you are our Father, though Abraham does not know us or Israel acknowledge us; you, LORD, are our Father, our Redeemer from of old is your name.

>>17351681
>Opposing the historical subversion of our entire society from a desert tribe that gets by through the parasitic and questionable methods (even their myths weren’t that original) shouldn’t be controversial.
except the desert tribe fucking hates its own methods of subversion and subversive agents, and they say they were Pagan agents sent to subvert their faith.
Almost as if you are a LARPet

>>17351762
>I dont know who is jewing who

>>17351759
Thanks

>>17351768
you certainly don't

>>17351681
What desert? You know Christians were called Galileans by Romans and Galilee isn’t a desert.

> Galileans was also term used by some in the Roman Empire to name the followers of Christianity, called in this context as the Galilaean faith.

>>17350870
Silence

the communist manifesto

>>17351811
>Christians were called Galileans by Romans
BULLSHIEET, they were called Nazarenes because they followed Jesus of Nazareth

>>17351823
Ask Julian the apostate your favourite fucking emperor, brainlet

>>17350870
Every book of the Western canon

>>17351828
Julian is much later and purposefully polemic though. I wonder why that's your first example.

>>17351829
Why do christians think embracing their stupidity makes them smart?

>>17351829
Pre-christian Greek and Roman thought makes a good chunk of the western cannon. what are you on about?

>>17350870
basically any fyodor dostoevsky novel,
heres a quote from brothers karamazov:
>It's impossible, I think, for the devils to forget to drag me down to hell with their hooks when I die. Then I wonder - hooks? Where would they get them? What of? Iron hooks? Where do they forge them? Have they a foundry there of some sort? The monks in monastery probably believe that there's a ceiling in hell, for instance. Now I'm ready to believe in hell, but without a ceiling. It makes it more refined, more Lutheran, that is. And, after all, what does it matter whether it has a ceiling or hasn't? But, do you know, there's a damnable question involved in it? If there's no ceiling there can be no hooks, and if there are no hooks it all breaks down, which is unlikely again, for then there would be none to drag me down to hell, and if they don't drag me down what justice is there in the world?

>>17350870
>implying there are Christian themes in the Old Testament

all of western literature

>>17351588
Germans were literally the niggers of the roman empire.

>>17351832
because he's the most famous

>>17352073
So no earlier sources huh?

>>17350870
Erich Auerbach's Dante: Poet of the Secular World has the best explanation for how the Gospel narratives massively influenced and shaped Western culture, and in particular Western art and literature, and also the individual's self-understanding.

What is particularly interesting is that Auerbach writes this from his perspective as an unconverted Jew.

>>17352106
>prove him wrong
>lol no earlier sources than the one that proves me wrong tho lol
hang yourself

>>17352163
No other sources I see. I already explained the issue with using a christian raised pagan revivalist polemic writer as a source.

>>17350870
Moby Dick, Paradise Lost and Alan Moore's Jerusalem.

>>17351586
This, and Moby Dick desu

>>17352179
that is there is no issue and you have asperger

>>17350870
Quo Vadis by Henryk Sienkiewicz. It's about the persecution of Christians in Ancient Rome under Neron's rule. It's not anti-Roman or anything, it's just showing the decay of Roman society at this point.

>>17352179
https://www.jstor.org/stable/1454165?seq=1
here you go, aschokarly article about the use of the term by Josephus the romanized Jewish historian.
5 minutes on Google, now hang yourself.

my diary

and

Les Deux Etendards

>>17351588
By the first Jewish rebellion Jews were settled across much of the Mediterranean and Middle East, including in Rome herself.
The Romans were quite fond of buying Jewish slaves and setting them free.
Funny how pagans and Jews have such an entangled relationship.
And how the Romans only took objection when they tried to rebel, and at every other time they were quite happy to use them in civil government or even as settlers to keep newly conquered Europeans pacified.

>>17351815
Seconding this.

>>17351588
Jesus dying at the hands of the Romans and being rejected by the Jews was enacting God's will. There's nothing you or anyone else could do to prevent that.

>>17350870
Castle for liebowitz

>>17350870
Blood Meridian

>>17350870
The Imitation of Christ

>>17350870
C.S. Lewis -- the author of the Narnia series, a Christian apologist, and a friend to Tolkien -- wrote a trilogy (apparently called "The Space Trilogy") starting with "Out of the Silent Planet", which continues with "Perelandra (Voyage to Venus)" and "That Hideous Strength". The first book is mostly just sci-fi, but the Christian themes get upped as you go along. Kinda bizarre at times, but I liked them.

>>17350870
The Road

east of eden and canticle for leibowitz come to mind and I dont think have been mentioned yet

>>17350870
Jewish God sacrifices Jewish schizophrenic cult leader for working as a carpenter instead of becoming a lawyer or banker

Watchtower magazines

Les Misérables you fucking plebs

the Name of the Rose

>>17351681
you're a couple franks short of a furter, guy

>>17350870
Read Kierkegaard Works of Love

>>17350870
Master and the Margherita

>>17351314
good one anon

>>17351586
Does lotr really have christian themes?

>>17350870
The works of emperor julian.
The last Roman emperor, perhaps he can illuminate your thoughts on the Nazarenes.

>>17353888
So Romans weaponized the Jews

>>17355935
Yes, LotR is heavily influenced by Christianity

>>17351602
>>17351586
>not using the full title
The Pilgrim's Progress From This World to That Which Is to Come: Delivered under the Similitude of a Dream Wherein in Discovered, The Manner of His Setting Out, His Dangerous Journey; and Safe Arrivalat the Desired Countrey

>>17355935
Read Tolkien's letters

>>17350870
Parsifal

>>17359982
Based

probably mickey rooney as mr yunioshi?

>>17350870
unironically Beowulf

>>17350870
The Man Who Was Thursday.