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What jobs does /lit/ have?
Are any of you guys in Academia or something along those lines?

>> No.17322399

>>17322392
neet

>> No.17322409

>>17322399
Same
Hoping to fix that soon

>> No.17322697

>>17322392
currently in my third period of NEET-dom

>> No.17322725

>>17322392
Applied to med school and waiting to get in, Biochem degree from an American university.

>> No.17322960

Domestic violence shelter

>> No.17323116

LMS Admin. Was unemployed most of last year and wish I could go back.

>> No.17323140

>>17322392
Currently working as an archaeologist

>> No.17323151

Food delivery on bike

>> No.17323363

>>17323151
Sounds comfy. What is your day to day like?

>> No.17323371

>>17323363
Meant for
>>17323140

>> No.17323630

>>17322399
this, it's fucking great

>> No.17323660

I’m a literature grad student. People just meme how bad it is; it’s basically an enjoyable part time job in an interesting beautiful prestigious place with more or less engaging people. I spend more time on other things than my degree.

I only recommend it though if you can swing a top program, preferably abroad, preferably at Oxbridge.

>> No.17323709

>>17323660
You're ho-hum now, but once you graduate you'll really be shitting bricks.

>> No.17323767

>>17323709

Planning on sequestering myself at a prep school in Europe or East Asia; most of these places go easy for a good doctorate.

Obviously I have no plans of trying to “make it” as an academic: quick path to disaster.

>> No.17324496

EFL teacher from Eastern Yurop. I get by.

>> No.17325978

Used to be a software engineer.
Currently NEETing off of my investments

>> No.17325987

Minimum wage retail. Just fucking kill me.

>> No.17326102

Plant import inspector. Just started and it's only paperwork so far but hopefully I will go out on inspections.

>> No.17326153

>>17323709
OEFanon here. Everyone always says that as if it's categorically impossible to live as a human being without a super prestigious, high powered job. I've never understood it, personally. For whatever reason, I had this instinctive sense as a kid that the whole thing is just smoke and mirrors. I opted for a different path through life. At 32 I have my share of regrets, but being more focused on the rat race is genuinely not one of them. I live quietly and happily with dead end jobs. Any day nobody's tried to kill me is a good day. The novel I'm writing will likely never get published, nor will the next one. If one of them does get published, it's likely it'll go completely unnoticed and casually shat on in passing. That's enough for me. If I never have to harm another person again or see my friends killed, I can take or leave the rest.

There's other ways you can look at the world, anon. Everything here is transient, and whatever manner of worldly tchotchkes you manage to collect, you can't take any of it with you when you go.

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17326195

School librarian. Thinking about going to uni to study history, but I'm afraid all the teachers will be woke as fuck. Is my fear justified?

>> No.17326239

>>17322392
Med school bro
Fucking sucks!

>> No.17326256

Leeching StudentBux with no intention to finish my Master's & doing website stuff for uni on the side

t. Eurochad

>> No.17326267

in high school, going to university to study mathematics in september.

>> No.17326289

>>17322392
I work at a grocery store, it's great. Night shift so plenty of time to think in the peaceful silence and since it's only physical my mental energy is saved for reading.

>> No.17326298

I was just a seasonal store manager.

Now I'm about to be a shipping/receiving tech. for a company that develops medical technology replacement parts

>> No.17326467

>>17322725
If you get accepted, prepare to say no to life anon

>> No.17326486

>>17322392
I get paid to kill piggus in a slaughterhouse, shit is so kino

>> No.17326494

>>17322725
How did you like American? I might go to George Washington this fall.

>> No.17326502

>>17326153
sounds like a bunch of unpublished faggot cope desu

>> No.17326511

>>17326486
Based pig killer

>> No.17327344

>>17322392
Philosophy grad student. I guess teacher technically for this semester.

>> No.17327645

>>17322392
Engineer. I hate it.

>> No.17327685

>>17322392
I don’t work in Academia per se but I work in University admin for a Uni in the US. I mostly just do general data analysis and manage finances. Yes, it sucks.

>> No.17327781

>>17322392
All unemployed, get in your cagie nigga.

>> No.17327900

I've been unemployed for the better part of the last 4 years. Had a quick jab at the administration of a public funded (jazz) orchestra, which made me a stern rindalist (thinking the public shouldn't support any form of newly produced art).
Did some time on a bike delivering food, then some time in a call-center - got fired for being to clever.
Now I just work as a temp in warehouses for major companies in town. The pay is low but at least the work is hard.

>> No.17328196

>>17322392
in my third year of a phd program (stemcel)

>> No.17328647

Assistant National Bank Examiner

Graduated school last may with a BS in Bus Management and a BS in Economics. Thought a government job would be good and be filling long term. I was completely wrong and hate my life. Planning an exit strategy now, but finding a new job has been pretty difficult given my lack of experience. There's this job available through my old university that I'm going to try for, but I'm still worried that it'll be just as bad as this one.

>> No.17328913

>>17323151
sometimes I think to do food delivery until I get my certificate for approved veterinary assistant but I am worried about both clients and restaurants being asses. Do you get much problems from either?

>> No.17328972

freelance wirter. did a lot of shit jobs but I've found a website i enjoy writing for now. wage is not good, but liveable, and i hope one day i can move on to a more fixed position on a paper/website, while in the meantime i work on my novels.

>> No.17328982

>>17322392
Night guard

>> No.17328991

>>17322392
Analytical Chemist.
I don’t really love chemistry but I do love pushing myself to be as accurate/precise as possible.
Job isn’t too hard and pays really well too. Coworkers are annoying millennial normies though.

>> No.17329038

>>17328982
lol so much of /lit/ seems to do this. is it because you all read pynchon's V. and want to be like benny?

>> No.17329183

>>17329038
Never read him, I am a achizoid so it seemed like a smart thing

>> No.17329231

>>17322392
Marketing Director at a Fortune 500.
It is horrendous.

>> No.17329258

>tfw got offered a job to teach in Prague
>can't go because of Covid
>unemployed making 40 euro a week because of a means test
Epic days ahead.

>> No.17329259

>>17327900
What does 'rindalist' mean?

>> No.17329265

>>17326153
this is so wet

>> No.17329270

High school English teacher.

>> No.17329302

>>17329259
It's an ideology based on the opinion that the government shouldn't hand out tax payers money to modern art. It is named after Rindal, a warehouse keeper in a small Danish town who created a popular movement against the newly founded States Art Fond. It was back in the 70's. Sadly he lost the battle. So much money is wasted on administration and creation of shitty art.

>> No.17329365

>>17329270
How is being an English teacher? I've considered it before.

>> No.17329387

>>17322960
Sounds like an intense and difficult job, do you like it?

>> No.17329397

considered academia but it sounds like hell and will make my depression anxiety even worse, going to start learning to be an electrician in an apprenticeship soon but currently Im a postal worker

>> No.17329398

>>17329302
Huh, interesting, never heard of that.

At least your exorbitant arts budgets actually produces stuff, even if its shit. I applied for a job here in Bongland for a multi-million pound 'cultural fund' that didn't even seem to do anything. Just talked about 'democratising art' whatever that means. Worst part is the fuckers didn't give me the job.

>> No.17329418

>>17322392
Former PhD student in stem, currently neet for a few months. Probably going to apply for all manners of data-related jobs in the coming weeks. Hopefully I'll get to keep reading some maths as part of my job, who knows.

I tried to get the based old guy who runs a library of quality books by famous ancient mathematicians in Paris to hire me, but he rejected me hard, so back to the bullshit race I guess.

>> No.17329433

>>17322392

Physics and Math junior tutoring math on the side right now. I'm enjoying the range of responses in this thread so far. Somehow, I thought I'd see a little more college students in here.

>> No.17329479

>>17329433
checked. cant speak for most zoomers of course especially the ones here but my understanding is many of them are slowly realizing they either dont need college or dont want it, american or not

>> No.17329562

History/polsci student. Work part time as a tutor and in a warehouse. It's pretty chill but i'm worried i'll never find a decent job. Probably not a good enough actor to make it in academia with all the liberal bs, even if the conditions here are much better than in the US.

>> No.17330201

>>17322392
Work in luxury fashion

>> No.17330473

>26
>Have masters degree poli sci and philosophy
>Left academia to become a freelance writer and marketer mostly specializing in copywriting and earned media acquisition in the financial services niche
>About $65k CAD per year at the moment
>Working 20 hours max per week
>Can work from anywhere, currently in Serbia waiting to go back to Paris, France to see my gf again
>No regrets, though I'll probably eventually go back to school and make a real careerist of myself. For now, this is a damn comfy setup.
>Feel somewhat loserish that I'm living such an unconventional life, bouncing around the world dicking about, writing and doing internet marketing while my friends are tied down to the big cities back home slaving away at law firms or PhD programs and are generally unhappy
>I'm happy, but miss the status and respectability of traditional life back when I was a grad student
>Though I still have time to write, do charity work, and enjoy my travels. Currently halfway through my 2nd novel, 3rd book.

>> No.17330600

Satellite operator

>> No.17330929
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17330929

USMC Artillery Officer

>> No.17330948

accounting.
>used to do audiobooks while in office
>now work from home, no longer go through as much lit because i play music and shitpost online instead
feels bad. comfy though. pay is mediocre but middle class, job is chill and low stress, pretty mindless really. always tons of jobs for it, will never go hungry. coworkers are all 60 year old women who talk about coffee all day. since i have 4chan level tech prowess i get my work done much quicker than they expect, so i work maybe 4 hours a day and chill the other 4. though it's all in 10 minute bursts and not straight, so it's not productive in the least. i never work overtime. didn't go to big 4. career is fucked BUT fuck overtime. working hard is for suckers. i have no material desires so i save 1/3 of my paycheck easily.
>>17326486
based
>>17330473
very comfy.

>> No.17331008

Welder-fabricator
I wish the money was half as good as people think it is

>> No.17331139

I’m an accountant. I hate my job and regret going down this path.

>> No.17331153

>>17331139
That's interesting, because I'm an attorney who thinks maybe he should have been an accountant. I don't hate my job, I just would rather do something mindless at work and save my mental energies for hobbies/play.

>> No.17331154

I work in a traditional tattoo parlor. I graduated in the spring, currently researching grad programs while studying for the GRE. I aspire to become a New Testament scholar.

>> No.17331177

>>17331139
it's not that bad bro. only other thing i would have done is CS for that six fig soft eng paycheck, but they're worked like dogs.

>> No.17331197

I work in film & tv production offices and pretty much want to kill myself.

>> No.17331198

>>17328647
Why do you dislike the job? Was it much different than you thought?
>>17330473
Sounds interesting. Did you always know you wanted to do a masters? And did that help you get your job? Where did you study too? I’m a fellow leaf as well.

>> No.17331276

I work over night in a warehouse. Basically just moving widgets from one location to another. It’s about as mindless of a job as you can imagine. I’m alone for most of the night and listen to audiobooks the whole time.


Sometimes I think about going back to school to learn something new, but I’m happy and am able to make ends meet.

>> No.17331296

>>17331197
What do you do there?

>> No.17331327

>>17322392
i make mobile games. pretty postmodern but pretty good pay

>> No.17331362

>>17331008
You work in a shop? All the money in welding is out in the field. I made $150k CAD last year welding storage tanks and the odd shutdown.

>> No.17331388

>>17331153
It's mindless, but it's incredibly tedious at the same time. It also just makes me feel like I squandered my education. There's so much to learn out there, and I spent my opportunity learning how to put numbers in boxes.

>> No.17331474

I abuse welfare and live in a trailer park. Trying to get a couple of things published so I can someday be a wealthy and respected author-philosopher but I'm slowly coming to realize that being a successful public intellectual requires dressing up milquetoast status quo opinions as being edgy and new without actually saying anything of interest, and I don't know if I have it in me to sell out like that.

>> No.17331502

>>17326153
based

>> No.17331524

>>17326153
What's it like living in Oman

>> No.17331531

>>17331524
O man, let me tell ya...

>> No.17332140

>>17331198
The work schedule is weird, and by the time Uncle Sam is done fucking with it I end up working 9 hour days with no overtime. Not to mention having to work nights and weekends just to stay on top of work as well due to bad new hire retention. I can see why newbies don't stick around as well. Alcoholism is rampant, as our job involves a lot of travel so nobody can really participate in hobbies unless they're portable. But I live in Wisconsin, so every town has 3 bars and a church. Thank God for books otherwise I would have gone insane months ago. This is manageable, but the part that eats me is how useless it feels. We can make "recommendations" until we're blue in the face but these bankers just don't listen. And we examine the same banks year after year and it doesn't get better.

I'm a young man, 24 in February, and for so much of my life I wanted to be well off. I grew up just above the poverty line and I said early on that I wanted a better life for myself and my family. Now I make more money than either of my parents and I'm miserable. I used to laugh at the people who said money can't buy happiness, but now I'm seeing how right they were.

Things are looking up though. The job search has been strangely revitalizing. I've got a few places I'm looking at but nothing material so far.

>> No.17332150

>>17326267
Same anon.

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17332224

>>17322392
High school senior at a top 10 school in the US.
I'm applying to a couple of /lit/ schools as well as some dumb state schools. >>17329479 is sort of correct, I want to go to college because it seems like the best way to spend 4 years that I would otherwise spend being a NEET or wagecucking, but I will refuse to go if it means taking on debt I can't realistically pay back (which is to say almost any debt at all).
>>17326267
>>17332150
hi
>>17330948
>used to do audiobooks while in office
How do I get into that? I'm told all the time I have a great voice and have always wanted to try applying that to something.

>> No.17332242

i make pizzas

>> No.17332321

>>17325978
>NEETing off of my investments
gimme advice on how to be like u

>> No.17332326

>>17331474
give us a sample anon
>>17331154
Based
>>17332242
do you post on /ck/ so people can have your pizza making tips anon?

>> No.17332339

>>17327900
>got fired for being to clever
>to clever.
>to
hm.

>> No.17332357

>>17329231
if not larping, care to talk more about it

>> No.17332358

Fuck off literal children

>> No.17332514

>>17331198
Went to Dal for my BA and masters. No, I didn't know I wanted a masters but I told my undergraduate thesis advisor that I didn't have plans after graduation and he told me to stick around for the master's degree and promised the department would pay for it. Seeing as most of my friends still had a year left in their degree, it gave me another year to hang out with them while we all finish our studies.

The masters did help me get some of my first clients for sure. I'd get some comments on it from people who viewed my CV. It also landed me a couple of big interviews out of the gate when I graduated and applied to corporate positions, but nothing materialized after the interviews I bombed.

>> No.17332546

I'm a postdoctoral NEET who has burned through all my weeks of unemployment and is about to burn through the last of my savings.

>> No.17332550

Digital marketing. Wake up early, exercise and read. Clock out at 5. Make dinner, read.
Honestly it's pretty chill.

>> No.17332571

>>17326153
Based and possessing a deeper truth

>> No.17332573

me and the missus on disability pensions plus me kids got the jobkeeper allowance

>> No.17332583

>>17332242
Based pizzaiolo

>> No.17332598

Currently math.phys. grad school, after that I'll get the fuck out of academia cos postdocs are a scam and I want a family before I'm 40. Might start my own company.

>> No.17332633

>>17322392
postdoc en route to professor

yeah it's good, and it sure beats working for a living

>> No.17332703

>>17326153
i avoided college, worked dead end jobs, tried and couldn't join the military (BMI too low), grew/sold/moved drugs for a couple of years, and now i sell cheese for a living. there's some truth to the idea that prestige and class are bullshit, but wagecucking in america is like having a gun to your head every day

>> No.17332805

Nurse. I fucking hate it and spend every day wanting to die. The shift work is killing me. I binge eat like crazy one week and eat sub 1k calories the next. I barely sleep. Doctors want everything done a very specific way and they get pissed when you don't do X thing Y way even though the other doctor wanted X thing done Z way. All my coworkers are neurotic women who don't stop talking about how hard the job is which somehow makes it worse. Everyone fucking despises my hospital but they're still too afraid to unionize even though the hospital would be fucked if they did. 80% of our staff is already scabs and they can't keep paying them $7k per week forever. I can't stand the hero worship that goes on in the media because I'm a total fraud. I never cared about helping people, I just wanted to be middle class.

I wish I was one of my friends who graduated with a business degree who's currently lazing around looking for a job. I want to go back to working in a warehouse. I want to live in the woods in solitude.

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>>17332805
>I can't stand the hero worship that goes on in the media because I'm a total fraud. I never cared about helping people, I just wanted to be middle class.

>> No.17332903

>>17332550

Same. Digital marketing is a somewhat vapid profession, in my opinion, but god is it comfy. Rarely do I put in over 30 hours a week -sometimes as low as 15 - all from home or the coffee shop while still pulling in a respectable salary that's enough for me to never have to worry about money or finances. I can see myself wanting a change later down the road, but for my 20s this shit is sweet.

>> No.17332939

>>17332224
Good thinking. Sure, even though my profession technically didn't require either my undergrad or master's I'm not one of those guys with my head in the sand thinking that the degree-getting process isn't worth it. You're paying for cultural exposure and socialization, etc. If you're a smart kid, play the game. You'll get out at 22 and will have plenty of options to take traditional or unconventional routes.

>> No.17332945

>>17331474
But you have it in you to sell out your country and neighbors by abusing welfare - bravo, anon! Your masterwork is pending, no doubt.

>> No.17333045

>>17331139

Auditor here. Life is pain.

>> No.17333054

About to graduate with a business degree at 20 fucking eight. Was it even worth going for? I just want a remote job that pays $75k a year so I can have a house from from a city and live modestly

>> No.17333080

i'm a chef by trade, currently unemployed and living in a cabin in the forest, have been here for a few months. soon i have to go back to civilisation and start my degree. double major in chemistry and sustainable agriculture. don't know what's going to happen but i know it will beat standing over a hot stove for ten hours a day putting money into the pocket of some stupid cunt.

>> No.17333091

>>17333080
>soon i have to go back to civilisation and start my degree
Why *must* you go back? Can you tell us about your cabin setup?

>> No.17333096

>>17326195
Did you have to get a librarian qualification in order to become a librarian?
or can you just do it with a generic degree/no qualifications?

>> No.17333097

>>17322392
Computer science student

>> No.17333099

>>17322392
I'm in highschool right now. I am probably going to study History and will join the Paracommando's for a few years.

>> No.17333104

>>17322392
im 28 and still NEET because of crippling depression and anxiety

Im Trans btw

>> No.17333105

>>17333091
because i have to go to university. the cabin is just over an hours drive from the campus which isn't sustainable for my budget, unfortunately. doing university remotely isn't sustainable either because of some boring things i can't be bothered explaining.
the cabin has a rainwater tank and enough solar to run a small fridge, my laptop and a small fan. i can charge my phone and speaker and dap. it's about 20 minutes drive to the nearest town.
my closest neighbour is on the mountain ridge, it's some sort of retreat which i've driven past on my way into the national forest surrounding us but i've never gone in.
i've got a small dam but it drains relatively quickly because it was built on top of shale (i didnt build it) but it's nice during the rainy season because animals like to hang out.
i've got a small vegetable garden and there are wild fruit trees around including mangos and bananas.

>> No.17333109

>>17330929
Oorah you sob

>> No.17333118

>>17330473
Is it really that simple to become a freelance writer and marketer making decent money from a Masters in poli sci and philosophy?
Was it difficult to get into copywriting making decent money?

>> No.17333119

Special Forces operator, pays well, but I don't think that I will keep doing it.

>> No.17333120

>>17322392
Software Engineer at Facebook wondering when the parts of me that were passionate, and had love for the world, ideas, and experiences shrivelled and was put in a glass jar

>> No.17333122

>>17326467
Med is all the hard work of STEM, but none of the bonding with fellow nerds. Expect to hear "my father" a lot.

>> No.17333123

>>17333120
>Facebook
consider suicide

>> No.17333129

>>17333119
What branch? Did you already reup?

>> No.17333132

>>17333129
I'm a fromgman, what's reup? (ESL here).

>> No.17333136

>>17333132
*frogman

>> No.17333139

>>17332550
>>17332903
How did you get into it?

>> No.17333141

>>17333120
>Facebook
What's it like there? In your view, is the ultra wokeness of tech genuine and ideologically driven or does it have some kind of hardnosed logic behind it? (e.g. profiting from social conflict)

>> No.17333149

>>17322392
I'm a delivery-driver, fucking end me.
>>17333119
Why? I would kill (no pun intended) for a job like that.

>> No.17333154

>>17333120
Just earn a shit ton while keeping your maintenance low. Then either start your own company or just settle in a comfier job and buy a house.
So should be 5 years of work or something to ensure you're set for life and can follow your true passion. You should keep faith anon, most people will never get this opportunity and work a shit job till they die. You've done well and will soon reap the results.

>> No.17333170

>>17333149
We have a huge shortage of operators, we need double the men we have now. Because of this I spend around 220 days each year being on mission, training in other countries and training new recruits. I'm getting married soon and me and my fiancé don't really like the fact that I will be away for most of the year (also because it is a really dangerous job).

>> No.17333183

>>17333170
How long are you expected to do a job like that? I can't imagine that someone lasts long in such a demanding job.
Do you get an early pension or are you fucked once you're past 40?

>> No.17333194

>>17333183
The oldest guy that stopped was like 51 when he stopped, but most guys quit in their late 30's/early 40's. That guy now trains recruits for a living and I can tell you that this guy in his fifties is way fitter than all the recruits that are in the prime of their life. He completes the entrance-test evrey year alongside with the recruits.

>> No.17333211

>>17333194
Whats the entry-test?

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17333217

>>17333123
Nah

>>17333141
Not sure I totally understand your question, but the ultra woke image it portrays is, like everything else, the result of cost benefit analysis. At the end of the day, portraying an outward image of being woke and progressive brings in more money and attracts young talent than it loses.
It is all like this. Pre-pandemic, we would get fed 3 meals a day in the office, prepared there by a gaggle of chefs. Once you amortise the cost of preparing this meal, maybe it costs FB $5 to feed me dinner. But it makes me stay an extra hour in the office to eat dinner, and if they pay me $70 an hour, they have squeezed a lot of productivity out of me.
Anyways, most of the people I know And work with are definitely liberal leaning, but no one is particularly politically engaged and we leave it out of the work place
>>17333154
Thanks anon, this is kind of my MO at the moment. I am very lucky to have gotten the job I did (started as a contractor, worked hard and converted to a full time employee) and I am trying to figure out what it is I truly care about or want to do with my life. Until then, I can save money so that I will be free to do exactly what I want in the not too distant future

>> No.17333218

>>17333211
Running 8 kilometers in less than 50 minutes with a backpack that weighs 20 kilograms.

>> No.17333224

>>17333104
you're dysmorphic, not trans. God made you just the way you were meant to be anon. i wish you well :^(

>> No.17333227

>>17333105
How do you get internet? This is fascinating stuff.

>> No.17333229

>>17333136
You are a Dane? Frogmen seems p cool, I am a Swede

>> No.17333230

>>17333119
Country? Branch? What are you doing here? Are you a Jocko poster?

>> No.17333234

>>17333229
No I'm Belgian.

>> No.17333238

>>17333230
Belgium, Frogman and I like books and I don't have a lot of stuff to do in my free time (I also used 4chan when I was younger).

>> No.17333239

NEET.

>> No.17333242

>>17333227
i'm using my phone internet at the moment.

>> No.17333247

>>17333194
What a Chad. Regular (but mild) fitness tests should be mandatory for all high status jobs. Maybe then we wouldn't have grey gremlins running the world.
Way to many "higher-educated" people completely neglect physical fitness.
>>17333217
Sounds pretty good anon. I would just like to remind you that it is very hard to find "the perfect" job. It is hard to find your passion with precognition alone, it is easier to just try out different things and make small adjustments from there. As long as you switch when you need to, all roads will lead to Rome.
Also indulge in some new hobbies while you're still working for Zuc, maybe you can then turn one of those hobbies into a job later on.

>> No.17333252

>>17333242
Doesn't that come with heavy costs? Also, did you read anything to learn how to set up your cabin? What did you look for in the environment, what did you survey, that made you choose that spot?

>> No.17333256

>>17333247
Haha, good idea. But let's say that not every high status job requires you to have the physical fitness of a Special Forces operator.

>> No.17333260

>>17333217
What are some of the other benefits of the woke image, do you think? Have you ever met Zucc, is he as reptilian or robotic as people say?

>> No.17333266

>>17333252
no, i get 50gb a month on the plan that i have currently, and generally torrent when i go into town if i feel like watching a series or whatever. i don't use the internet for media generally.
the cabin is owned by a friend of a friend, he's 70-something and lives in another state. i met him briefly once years ago and he offered to let me stay here as long as i want. he's happy to have someone look after the land. our mutual friend vouched for me and we seem to have similar temperments and interests.
as far as i have determined it doesn't take a genius to set something like this up. just common sense and manual labour. the farming co-op nearby is a good place to network, i've had to install a pump for the water while i've been here and they helped me with some fittings. i have no plumbing experience but it's really not that complicated to do the basics.
in terms of surveying etc., just common sense again. something with a water supply is all you really need.
the cabin is very basic but it's sturdy, my understanding is that he built it all himself with the help of a couple friends for lifting. there are basic principles of architecture which are easy to follow if you're interested in setting something up. a lot of resources exist for 'tiny houses' which have some very good advice about optimal positioning etc.

>> No.17333279

>>17333266
Ah, so you have more than a rainwater tank set up, you get your water from some stream or something? I'm guessing the dam from earlier is the key there maybe.

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17333282

i am too socially inept to get a job

>> No.17333288

>>17333279
>>17333279
no, i only have rainwater. about 10,000 lites. i'm in a subtropical area so rainfall generally isn't a problem, but if i did own this place i'd definitely invest in another and build another couple of dams at least.
i'm not sure if you're familiar, but permaculture design addresses water catchment as well as a few other things for rural living. i'd recommend that as a starting point if you're planning something like this. i certainly am.

>> No.17333289

>>17333139
After graduating I tried making it as a "writer" by taking low paying clients for content writing projects on Craigslist. Then met a guy who introduced me to the owner of a content writing agency. I applied to work for him as a writer and he hired me at $0.025/word. A pittance, but it was a start. He had upwards of 100 writers working for him cranking out millions of words per month, and eventually I stood out as his strongest writer. He entrusted me with his biggest accounts, including writing for some $1B companies at higher rates. While working on these accounts I was taught the ins and outs of SEO and marketing analytics to make sure my content was rankable and optimized. Once I had these big name companies on my CV I left the agency and freelanced for a much higher rate. I'd find clients on Indeed (Canadian job board?) mostly, or they would find me through connections. Last year I signed a full-time employment contract with one of my clients which pays a very liveable wage plus benefits. I recommend skipping the agency stuff if you can, that's soul crushing work and for most people it gets you nowhere. I'd recommend finding a niche (I now specialize in selling gold and precious metals to US retirees looking to manage risk in their IRAs and 401ks) and running with it. I found mine by getting hired by a freelance client that ran this kind of content, and just doing more and more work for him until it became my main focus and "brand".

>> No.17333300

>>17333118
Not simple. It took about 2 years to go from grinding, toiling away writing upwards of 10,000 words a week reviewing trivial, niche Amazon products like ice cube machines and cat litter boxes. If you're good, and ask for what you're worth, you'll be entrusted with bigger accounts and can pad your CV with those names - I started working for JD Power, ZipRecruiter, and a big software automation company and I think putting those on my resume was enough to establish credibility and go out on my own as a freelancer commanding higher rates. However, those first 2 years, for me, were quite the slog and the monotony was tough to withstand.

>> No.17333318

>>17333300
>>17333289
Who taught you the SEO stuff? What distinguishes you from the other writers? Is this something a /lit/izen could plausibly do or do you need to be very talented?

>> No.17333327

>>17333289
thanks for this info

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17333329

>>17333260
>>17333260
Well first I will point out that this woke imagery is absolutely not limited to Facebook, or even tech companies. The entire phenomenon of corporate activism is, like every other actions performed by corporations, entirely motivated by how it affects their bottom line.
Starbucks turning a 100 second mini narrative about trans empowerment to shill coffee is one of the most twisted aspects of modern existence. People used to speculate what era we live in and a “Post-Sincerity” world feels sickeningly and wickedly accurate

Anyways, as to how it benefits Facebook, there are the ways it benefits tech companies in general:
It helps attract young talent. Most of the candidates for these companies are liberal (as a result of US unis being liberal echo chambers, particularly the ones they tend to recruit from. I say this as a libtard from one of these unis)

It helps their PR. It is interesting how intangible qualities like sentiment and consumer perception are actually incredibly impactful when it comes to measuring how successful your company will be

Facebook obviously needs the latter more than most tech companies

I have never met big Zucky boi, I have seen him in the office though and he hosts a Q&A for employees every week which you can tune in to. He is basically as autistic as you think he is

>> No.17333344

I've got a good degree in marketing but since graduating I just feel so lost desu. It's such a bullshit industry and I'm not sure I can imagine myself doing that from behind a desk for my entire life.

Conversely, I've got my girlfriend and our future to think about. If not marketing, what? If not an office job, what? Nothing that'll keep me on my feet and active pays well.

>> No.17333349

>>17322392
I teach English to foreign students at a private institution. Pay's solid, but the work is soulless, as we're very much a result-oriented school. (Gotta get the kids into the best universities so they can be brainwashed by (((Western))) academics.) Whatever they tell you about becoming a teacher is largely romantic, or, at the very worst, misguided.

>> No.17333364

>>17333349
did you go to university for teaching? i hear a lot of ESL courses don't take much to get into. i don't mean to disparage you, just curious because i've considered it before and wonder how it is day-to-day

>> No.17333372

>>17322392
academic in a non-/lit/ field

>> No.17333377

>>17333329
I see, this is very insightful, I hadn't thought of some of these things. The conservative narrative focuses more on the heads of these companies as having personal ideological motives, rather than it being profit motivated.

>> No.17333390

>>17333364
I bailed on my English degree 'cause all of my professors were more concerned with teaching politics than literary skills. Was going to complete what we call the Professional Development Program so I could teach high school English, but I opted to get my TESOL certification so I could teach abroad instead. I did well enough during my course that my instructor recommended me to her boss, who was looking for a temp working to run some summer courses. Just kept proving myself and landed a permanent position. Jumped ship to another school after earning my stripes and branched out into private tutoring as well.

To your question: There are a lot of trash ESL teachers out there, both at prep schools and post-secondary institutions. It's not terribly hard to get into the industry, provided you apply yourself and make friends with the right people. I would caution you against making it your main profession, though. Most of my coworkers are regular high school teachers just looking for extra money on the side.

>> No.17333410

>>17333390
yeah, i've only ever considered it as a life experience. would be fun to live in se asia for a while and not just be some shit tourist.
thanks for the insight. the mechanics of how you landed your position is basically how i operate (networking and hard work). in the back of my mind i still think about doing some sort of teaching certificate at some stage.
are you planning to move away from the industry?

>> No.17333413

Journalist/editor.

>> No.17333418

>>17333413
can you say what publication?

>> No.17333443

>>17333410
And it's definitely a great life experience to have. The kind of adaptability you learn and confidence you develop as a leader, orator, etc. are things you can take with you anywhere you go. A TESOL certification or a close equivalent is something you should probably look into if your plan is to do a temp position in a foreign country. (It doesn't technically enable you to teach in North America, only abroad --but people will ignore that if you're really good.)

Yeah, I'm getting out. Applied to an MFA program a few weeks ago (lol) so I could eventually get an official teaching position in academia and tackle the beast from within. I write books on the side and run programs for young writers. If my upcoming novel catches like I think it might, I may very well leave teaching behind entirely.

>> No.17333452

>>17333443
best of luck to you and your novel.

>> No.17333461

>>17333418
Most of my stuff is nothing too serious, mainly lifestyle journalism. On the more serious end of the spectrum, I edit a lot of custom publications my company does for clients and contribute articles to those but that's pretty all dry.

>> No.17333490

>>17333452
Thanks, brother. Best of luck to you as well.

>> No.17333515

>>17326195
>woke as fuck
its really not that bad if youre not a total douchebag

>> No.17333552

>>17333443
how young?

>> No.17333664

>>17333318
The owner of the agency and the next-in-command at the agency indirectly taught me a ton of useful stuff about SEO. They would always give me extremely detailed instructions about how to structure the content, find the keywords, place them, secure featured snippets, etc. that pretty quickly I realized that these are all the tricks and rules they dish out at $1,000 Hubspot bootcamps. Doesn't take long to figure out how to create mint SEO content and research the keywords, then track the content's progress over time.

Maturity and talent will make you stand out. Make deadlines. If you can't, give advance notice. Own up to mistakes. Take edits and criticisms on the chin. Never divert blame to someone else. Write well. Never half ass anything, even if it's bullshit Amazon product listings optimized for robots and web crawlers. Ask for what you're worth once you've proven yourself. This is how you succeed at anything, not just content writing. It also helps that a lot of content writers are meek stay at home moms who don't ask for more, or young fresh out of college types who can't really write well or don't have a solid work ethic. Many are just plain dumb and no amount of coaching will make them a serviceable top-tier writer.

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17333735

>>17322392
Been a NEET for 12 years

>> No.17333766

>>17332321
>make money
a good paying job where you can realistically become better than the others
to show you deserve a higher pay
>save money
stop wasting money on restaurants, clothes, or whatever else is an issue for you
don't waste money on useless traditional education—universities
>invest money
you're on your own
too many possibilities
too many ways to lose money

>> No.17333822

I work as a house painter and I am a philosophy grad student. Painting is a pretty comfy job actually.

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Does anyone have a job that isn't absolute torture? This thread and every other "/lit/ job" thread kills my spirit. I don't know what to do anymore

>> No.17334178

>>17327645
Same. I confused my passion for learning with a passion for engineering, but my earning potential is too high now to go back and take up a comfy career. Next year I’m going to law school for patent law; I doubt I’ll like it a whole lot more than engineering but the money seems too good to pass up.

>t. Self hating EE

>> No.17334223

I want to join the Military. Honestly, it’s the only thing I’ve ever really wanted to do. Problem is, I don’t want to join my country’s military. So I’m at a crossroads.

>> No.17334232

>>17334111
If you pay attention, most of the people who have labor or skilled trade jobs are most only okay with them. Those of us who work in white collar professions live in mental hell.

>> No.17335087

Every time these threads pop up it's the same thing:

>White collar workers are unhappy
>Blue collar tradespeople are happy
>Alternative/creative/freelancers are mostly happy
>Students and academics are a mixed bag

>> No.17335249

I'm a gardener in the summer and an afterschool care aid in the winter. I like the variety of it

>> No.17335341

Any of my dear homies can recommend a good school of theology to attend? Doesn't matter if it's orthodoxy or islam or vajrayana or whatever.

>> No.17335417

Contract coordinator for a water hygiene firm. It's boring but incredibly easy and I work from home 100% of the time, so if I'm not busy I don't even have to pretend to be, I'll just play with my dog or do some stretches.

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I'm an freelance film critic. At times I make okay money but most of the time I make my living from savings that I get from part-time hospital work. Should actually look for more places to write desu but ive been feeling lazy recently.

>> No.17335435

>>17326195
It will be fine. Your teachers will probably be liberals, as most educated people are, but don't fall for the "Every teacher is a radical marxist and every student is brainwashed!!" meme. 95% of people in uni are totally normal people.

>> No.17335440

>>17335087
Well, I post the we thing in practically every one of them.

>> No.17335470

>>17326153
bless you

>> No.17335676

I work in a warehouse. Pretty boring but its hard for me to find jobs because I did stupid shit in my early 20s. Count your blessings and all that

>> No.17335705

>>17335428
>freelance film critic
I too shitpost on Rotten tomatoes

>> No.17335982

>>17326267
Godspeed anon, just graduated w my bachelor's in math a month ago. You def get out of it what you put into it, and make sure you pressure your professors a bunch into letting you get involved, cause mathematicians are lazy.
>>17322392
As for OP, I just got a job as an aide in special education. Not a long term thing, I just graduated young and wanted to do something where I help people for a bit before I become a wage slave for real. I'll probably go into the family business after this when I want to make real money.

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Self published scifi novelist and screenwriter

>> No.17336051

Currently a PhD student for Classics/Archaeology in Canada. Pretty miserable since everything is online and I was hoping this summer to do language intensive courses in which ever country the respective language is spoken but... covid...

I don't feel strongly about my department, some professors already dislike me (due to getting an bullshit academic misconduct) and the "digital-humanities project" is getting no institutional support at all since I'm not sycophantic enough. I have no publications or anything. I know that I'll never go into academia, as another Anon mentioned in this thread - impossible. All in all it's pretty comfy, though I find myself day-trading more and more with the plan to max out my student loans for the sake of investing (I am decently funded).

What else is a man to do though

>> No.17336090

>>17332242
Same. Using it to pay my way through college. Do you also feel sexual and romantic attraction to the ball of dough?

>> No.17336096

>>17335341
Thelema

>> No.17336098

>>17336051
Was your BA and/or MA in Classics?

>> No.17336110

I hate what I do but my BS in Economics, mediocre State Uni, super low GPA, and super high debt burden don’t exactly lend themselves to letting me do much else.

>> No.17336116

>>17336098
guessing MA

>> No.17336138

Journalist. I may be on track for a promotion to editor soon.

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>>17336098
BA and MA (terminal) in Classical/Archaeology. Had a good time and made some decent connections. I loved it because of the digs. The problem is that, though I'm pretty amiable and people have liked me on projects, and can't get my name as co-publisher; similar as in sciences in so far as established professor reach down to help you get published. Classics is very hit and miss like that. There's no rigorous methodological training and it's just whatever feels good/in vogue. But then again, I didn't exactly attend top-tier schools....

Thanks for listening to my rant Anon

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I'm a teacher. I work in a high intensity academy where students are expected to reach B1 level Dutch in about 4~5 months. It's intended for nursing students who want to work in the Netherlands (where there is a massive shortage in medical workers). It's essentially easy because my lesson plans have now all been outlined and all I have to do is show up and interact with the students. Though I never expected to be passionate about teaching it turns out I like it a lot. Better than all the other jobs I had.
The most difficult part is telling the brainlets they're retarded, they're ngmi and they gotta fuck off- what eases the pain is that they disappear basically on the day they're told to leave, so I rarely interact with them after the fact.

Yesterday I spent the afternoon talking to students in preparation for oral exams, and inbetween that I lay on a couch in the living room (the academy is basically a big mansion) reading confuscius.
I feel like I've already made it but I do want to move on.

>> No.17336175

>>17336142
I am also doing my masters in classics in Canada right now. And I completely agree. It makes me cringe to see how much modern identity politics is forcing its way into ancient history. It was so difficult to find a prof who were not focused on gender and slavery in the ancient world

>> No.17336189

>>17336142
If you won’t go into faculty, why continue the PhD? Why don’t you just go teach or something?

>> No.17336218

>>17336175
Where are you?

I did my MA at Queen's and my supervisor was based beyond belief and an overall great guy. Whipped me into shape for my thesis then. What you just described is happening so much with the professors I'm clashing with... all the other students, all women except one other dude, focus on gender. LIKE THIS ISN'T NEW. Gender theory has been in the classics for some time, and I do enjoy reading it, but it's not some fucking boundary pushing framework. Idk, I'm hoping I get the PhD and it looks good on the resume and I get some research analyst job.

>> No.17336248

>>17336189
>>17336218
Here's my reply: essentially having seen multiple really smart and dedicated adjuncts now working the Gov. positions, I figure I'll try for that and skip the shittiness that is being an adjunct.

I also have no idea what to do (was working in politics but my party lost the last election) and I currently have funding for another ~4 years. I'm actually doing pretty well in the stock market so the idea is just leverage all this free money and even with a ~5% return (though I'm at like 30), help secure my future. I live with very little costs

>> No.17336294

>>17336218
I'll just say I'm in western Canada

Ive noticed it get much more aggressive over the years. Im in shock at the amount of people in my department that cannot stand the periods they study because of how sexist they are.

I just want to focus on Roman infrastructure. Why is that so difficult?

>> No.17336330

Used to work at a restaurant but quit and have been NEETing (with occasional food deliveries) since. Kind of wish I hadn't because it's been a pain trying to get another shit job and the funds are in the red. I'm sure once I get another job the urge to quit will come over me again. It sucks knowing I could be spending time on what I actually want to do (make music) but the social life and $$$ of a shit job is appealing nonetheless .

>> No.17336341

>>17333054
>>17333054
Bump

>> No.17336348

>>17336294
I'm in Western Canada too.

I like late antiquity, mainly economics and taxation.

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>>17336173
Leuk! Do you have any special textbooks that you use? I mostly use Duolingo and some old books for learning Dutch. Sometimes I also try to read/translate shorter children's books.

>> No.17336497

Electrician, i like the variety of it and the pay is good.

Higly recommend anyone to become an electrician that thinks they would not enjoy working white collar.

>> No.17336513

>>17336388
Yeah, we're using the NT2 system which I believe is actually made by the dutch government for second language speakers. You have to pay for them though, and they're not cheap, and you'll need a teacher.
Some grammar can be tricky (sentence structure differs slightly from English), if you have a solid grasp on English or if it's your first language you can easily be fluent within a year.
Kids' books are a good way to get a grasp on a language. Depending on what level you are you can also try reading newspaper articles or listening to dutch music. When you say old books, how old exactly? The book you posted is good, but Dutch used to have different spelling rules (musschen >mussen) so don't get confused if you see anything like that in an older edition of something you read.
If you wanna see how proficient you are, you can check out https://nt2taalmenu.nl/ and see if you can pass one of the practice tests.
Veel geluk!

>> No.17336639

>>17336294
>>17336189
Learning Latin and Greek is peak comfy too.

Each class has me and one other student in it

>> No.17336673

>>17336348
Late antiquity interests me but I never got a chance to study it during my undergrad

>> No.17336708

>>17322392
Was a big firm lawyer. Now I'm a lawyer that just dicks around and reads.

>> No.17336805

>>17336639
Yeah, I’m jealous actually. I got a degree in economics but in retrospect might have studied classics. I just wouldn’t have gone for an MA or PhD.

>> No.17336815

>>17336497
Maybe this is a dumb question but how do you become an electrician? Once you’ve taken on a debt burden for a degree and invested a few years into white collar you can’t always just drop a ton of money to go to some tech school in your late 20s.

>> No.17336841

>>17333377
Yea which is honestly pretty retarded for the party that is meant to be more aligned with “free market capitalism”
These people run multi-billion dollar companies, and their priority (legally speaking) is going to be maximising shareholder value. Dorsey is a bit of an outlier, and with the capitol event, most platforms have now weighted that backlash from continuing to give Trump a platform is no longer worth it

>> No.17336850

>>17328972
This sounds like my dream but i feel like i’m over-romanticising it. What sort of articles do you write?

>> No.17336853

still studying english lit and history at the moment, but i've taken up substitute teaching and will go on to teachers' school in a couple of years. sadly there's not that many opportunities to teach english lit to french speaking kids, i'll be stuck to instruct them on a/an and present continuous for a few decades.
at the very least a teaching job pays well in switzerland.

>> No.17336864

>>17336513
Thank you I will check the site!
Yes the grammar is tricky I always mess up the "catapult woordvolgorde" when I try to write or speak. I used Taal Vital which is a book from 2002, it should be good right?
I haven't read aanslag I just watched the movie and I liked it. I try to read easier things like "griezelbus".
Can you recommend me by any chance some decent Dutch news sites, movies, or books?

>> No.17336876

How easy is it to bob benson my way into a job in SEO?

>> No.17336901

>>17336876
Depends. Are you able and willing to bob your head on some dicks?

>> No.17336908

>>17322392
I work at a Wendy's near a community College.

>> No.17336978

>>17322392
Literally unemployed since Covid began. I was working out back of a big supermarket, receiving all the deliveries and handling invoices, receipts etc. I’ve also worked as a Warehouse operative, a milkman, a handy man on a private medical campus. Too many jobs and I just want to study now and really make a career for myself. What’s a good line of work to get into? Something long term, mildly challenging and with decent pay?

>> No.17337006

>>17326494
Not him, but **an** American university. Not American university.

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>>17322392
Niche engineering field, degree in chemical engineering. I originally went for history -> archaeology but changed majors a couple years in

>> No.17337328

>>17330473
mate you're literally living the life all your friends want

You say it yourself, they're generally unhappy and yet you're happy. Why tf do you feel like a loser?

>> No.17337346

>>17337328
Also, I am a FAANG software engineer. Moving to Toronto this year with salary @ 175k CAD

>> No.17337471

>>17336864
De griezelbus is definitely an adequate book to learn from. Dutch translations of popular english book series like harry potter aren't bad either.
A good news site would be nu.nl
I unfortunately can't think of any movies right now, the netherlands doesn't have a very large film industry.
And yeah, taal vitaal seems good. The cultural conventions that are explained in it might be a bit dated but other than that it's solid.

>> No.17337569

>>17331362
I honestly have no fucking idea how to go about it. Do you just look up yourself what certs you need, buy your own equipment and offer your services or do you go through an agency or a company?

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I'm a first-year philosophy major at the Goethe university in Frankfurt, where Adorno graduated. It's been all digital so far but I'm ok with that because I can stay with my parents and keep my part-time job so I can save up a little for when I'm on my own. I will move out in April. The courses so far have been pretty comfy, although I fucking hate logic.
I work part-time at a warehouse which delivers food & beverages. The pay is about the worst you can get but I'm ok with that for now. When nothing is happening I get to sit down and read a book, watch anime or listen to a podcast.
The company I work at has now actually bought the competition which basically makes them a monopoly now. This is pretty bad for me because a lot of workers from the other company will immigrate to this one which means a lot of us part-timers will get reduced hours or completely fired. Now that they're the only company in that field they get to make the rules and we can't say anything because we're not backed by unions. Isn't capitalism so fantastic?
>>17335428
how did you get the job? Were you writing reviews in your free time before? I also love watching movies, I haven't watched too many (about 420 on lb) but I'm mostly familiar with asian kino and other lesser-known stuff like that.
Also do you feel like you're limited within your freedom of opinion? I'm asking because if I had to review movies (especially hollywood) I'd probably analyze their ideological content rather than saying generic shit that everyone writes, if you know what I mean.

>> No.17337591

>>17334178
One of my buddies is going into patent law. Seems neat.

Yeah engineer sucks. I really just want something else comfy but they pay me way too much to fuck around one excel, not sure what EE is like

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NEET for the next ~5 months because I need to wait until May for my university to give me my degree (despite finishing my last classes in December). For now it's bready nice. I'm staying with my parents (expense free) and spending a lot of time studying Chinese and reading. Hoping to move to China ASAP to be an ESL teacher for a few years.

>> No.17337716

>>17337696
esl?

>> No.17337720

>>17337716
english second language

>> No.17337722

>>17322392
Postdoc and not planning to leave academia anytime soon.

>> No.17337756

>>17337716
teach kids how to speak English/improve on their existing abilities. It's a good gig.

>> No.17337757

>>17337720
It's things like this where I sometimes wish I was a burger. Literally just graduate in anything and asian countries would take you as a english teacher. Wish I could go to china desu

>> No.17337775

>>17337757
There are some employers who will hire people from non-Anglosphere countries if you can demonstrate high English proficiency.

>> No.17337801

>>17337775
My english skills are quite advanced, I don't think I could get rid of my semi-German accent. It's not strong but it's there.

>> No.17337810

>>17333045
That's because auditors are assholes. I do management accounts, end of year and tax stuff for restaurants and bars and clubs, pays well enough and I don't work long hours.

>> No.17337861

>>17337801
If you have a degree (in any field as long is it's a bachelor's or above) you could start looking around for jobs. If you can prove that your English is good (idk the name but there's some kind of international standard testing) then they'd be willing to overlook your non-Anglosphere passport in many countries. I would recommend you get a TEFL certificate too (it's a complete meme- you can complete a """160 hour""" TEFL certificate in a weekend. Check Groupon, it costs like $50). You might have a hard time finding work in China specifically because of their anal visa standards but you could work in Japan (not much money in it but high standard of living), Korea (mix between China and Japan in terms of earning:quality of life), or SEA (not quite as much money as China but incredibly low cost of living. Kind of dicey standard of living). There's a surprising demand for ESL teachers because most people are too rooted into their home country to up and leave everything. COVID has obviously fucked things up but they should be more or less back to normal in 6 months to a year.

>> No.17338118

>>17334232
>>17335087
Seems like I really fucked up going into white collar. Once I pay off my loans I’m thinking of quitting and trying to find a comfy blue collar that will keep me busy and the bills paid and chill into obscurity

>> No.17338186

>>17337861
sounds reasonable. I was just thinking that they'd rather choose natives than non-natives and that the market is already filled with burgers, seeing as how many vlogs there are on yt about burgers in their mid-20s giving piss easy english lessons in Japan without even having to learn japanese.
I'd like to aboid Japan if possible given the absurd work culture over there. I hope I can work in Taiwan someday.

>> No.17338202

>>17338186
>I was just thinking that they'd rather choose natives than non-natives
oh they 100% do, all I'm saying is that it's not completely impossible for non-Anglos to teach (assuming their English is excellent and near-native).
>Taiwan
Seems incredibly cozy. I'm gonna do China first (more money and excitement) but if I decide that I might want to permanently live in East Asia then Taiwan would be a good option.

>> No.17338608

>>17337328

You always want what you don't have. Status, respectability, stability, purpose, etc.

>> No.17338620

>>17332903
>>17333139
Sums it up. The pay’s sufficient enough to support good meals, hobbies, and rent for a quality apartment.
I have more than enough time for my personal projects so I can’t complain.

Graduated with a degree in economics (not the soft poli sci kind, the one that’ll drill in statistics and analytics through software tools) which is basically a shoe in for digital marketing.

I took time off to pursue a career in the entertainment industry. Worked as a pa then production coordinator on numerous commercial shoots (I was drawn to this bc I learned to enjoy photography). The pay was shit and long term prospects were bleak. Ultimately I returned to digital marketing for the stability, and the realization it would fund my hobbies.

Nothing much has changed since. I keep up with my projects but now I have more money to play with.

>> No.17338800

Top 1% gay onlyfans content creator. I'm not even gay.

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>>17337581
i got the job by asking the head of the print magazine directly on facebook lol. just told him what movies i liked etc (example of my taste in pic) and he said okay. I mostly write about recent releases and i can pretty much hand pic what i write about. The space is small for premieres and i get like 50 euros for those. For bigger articles i can earn up to 300 euros easily. Sometimes I also write to festival catalogs. Its not high paying but if you just know your shit and are willing to write a lot then you can live by it. My problem is that I´ve been lazy and I should ask some foreign places to get some writing done more.

>> No.17339065

>>17338800
how do i get in on this gig? unironically im down to sell a few pics

>> No.17339086

>>17339065
You have to stick stuff in your ass and talk to them, dude.

>> No.17339103

i am a tutor and it's pretty nice. the pay is decent and it's remote right now. the kids are mostly fine; there are a couple stand outs and a couple of bad apples. been thinking about going into teaching because this is not really something i can do as a career, but for the time being, it's nice. can't say i'd recommend it for the average channer though, as you've got to be pretty personable.

>> No.17339164

>>17322960
Do you mow the lawns of the battered women?

>> No.17339172

>>17339040
sounds comfy. thank you. did he not want to see some samples, past reviews or anything like that? I can't imagine they hire someone solely for their kino taste

>> No.17339175

>>17328913
I did delivery for a year. This was never a problem. The worst it got was that one time I had to wait 15 mins for the food. But everyone was polite.

>> No.17339198

>>17339172
nope didnt have to give the dude anything. frankly i was shocked since i was ready to give him one.

>> No.17339224

>>17334178
Lmao, I swear there was another anon in a previous thread who went into patent law and supremely regretted not continuing his engineer education, due to the mind-numbing repetitiveness of law. The grass is --always--

>> No.17339226

>>17339198
ok, I'll see if I can get a position like that. I wanna be a director someday so that might help in terms of credibility.

>> No.17339270

>>17326153
>Any day nobody's tried to kill me is a good day.

yeah sure, if we all had this laughably low standard of lifestyle we would all drop out of the rat race too

>> No.17339371

>>17334223
Then do french foreign legion. Unless you're frog lel

>> No.17339402

Working as a valet/bellhop while finishing uni. Even on the busiest days I would get around an hour to myself to read and watch lectures, and now that everything is shut down again I spend 6-7 hours per shift reading.
Shit's comfy.

>> No.17339407

Epidemiology, post docing
I've published a good bit, over 200 citations
Looking to leave academia soon, though

>> No.17339497

>>17322392
I unpack shipping containers at the port.

>> No.17339534

Mechanical engineer for fortune 500 company.

>> No.17339556

run a small startup. used to run consulting firm.

>> No.17339737

>>17339065
>how do i get in on this gig?
Advertise on reddit. Start with smaller subreddits

>> No.17339801

>>17332805
>I want to live in the woods in solitude.

Oh man, I totally get that. I moved from a big city in one country, to the countryside in another country and I fell in love. Countryside life is so good. Riding the local train to work through the mountain towns, especially this time of year with everything covered in snow, I have started to take it for granted already, but it really is something special.

I remember I went walking with some friends one day and this person showed is a cave out behind a temple. She was telling us about how the cave was only discovered a few years ago and barely anyone has been down there. They actually don't know how far it goes because they haven't tried fully exploring it yet.

And yeah, just going out on nature walks in the mountains and the absolute silence. No one around. I think you have to be a particular kind of person to appreciate it, or enjoy it, but I love it.

My wife keeps talking every so often about moving back to the country we came from and the big city, and I just die a little inside every time she talks about it.

>> No.17339935

>>17337861
Yeah, I'm currently doing the English teaching thing in Japan. Sitting in the staff room of one of my high schools right now. It's a pretty great job in my opinion, but I think it takes a certain type of personality to really enjoy it. I think most people 'put up' with it because they get to be a trash weeb in Japan and it's just a job to them. Not for me though, I genuinely really enjoy my job. I've done quite a few jobs in my life and this is the best so far.

>> No.17339946

>>17339935
>I've done quite a few jobs in my life and this is the best so far
This is my thinking. It sounds so fucking cozy. ESPECIALLY if you get lesson plans provided to you (which most Chinese employers provide). Add on to that the good pay, low cost of living, and low hours (usually 30-35/week) you just can't go wrong. Any advice for a newfag?

>> No.17339984

>>17339946
I don't really know the deal in China. For me personally, the first year was very uphill, just because of exactly what you are hoping will happen, didn't happen. I had to create lesson plans and run classes by myself. In the end, it was fine though. It was just like being thrown in the deep end and being in a sink or swim kind of situation. I'm going into my fourth year in April and the last two years have been so breezy, this year especially.

Those kind of situations can ruin people though, especially if they have bad teachers on top of it. For example, One of my high schools got a new teacher this year, and if this was my first year, I would seriously consider asking to change schools or outright quitting, they are that bad.

They pay I wouldn't call good either, it's just okay. But the cost of living is crazy cheap compared to my home country, so it's not so bad. The low hours thing, should be taken with a grain of salt. Especially if you have to factor in travel time. I live in the countryside and one of my high schools takes an hour each way to get to school. Also you will more than likely be asked to stay back at work every so often for various reasons. You have to work some weekends in the year as well, but it's for fun stuff like the culture festival, so it's all good.

>> No.17339992

>>17322392
I'm a Data Analyst for advertisment. I would like being something else desu

>> No.17340000

>>17322392
Conservation ecologist

>> No.17340018

>>17339984
>They pay I wouldn't call good either, it's just okay
>The low hours thing, should be taken with a grain of salt
From what I've heard Japan is much more intense than China, Korea, or Vietnam. If you want the good pay and low hours you need to be okay with... living in China. Dodging falling buildings and the like. Are you considering staying long-term? Or just a few more years while you weeb it?

>> No.17340024

>>17322392
I work in foreign policy research with a grad degree. I used to be in intel.

I really just want to read literature in a cabin.

>> No.17340028

>>17323140
/lit/ job

>> No.17340051

>>17340018
My wife and I are both doing it and our combined income is pretty good, but yeah, not amazing. I don't know what the work hours thing is about to be honest...then again, everyone's situation is radically different in these kind of jobs.

I personally would love to live here indefinitely, especially living in the countryside. Sadly, I don't think my wife does though. She is actually in a better work situation than me as well, but a similar job. She also is paid better than me. But yeah, I dunno. Would love to stay long term, but who knows.

>> No.17340647

>>17322392
My job is to slang the truth
Unless Harvard, MIT. Cambridge, Oxford, and the like come to its senses, none are giving me sugar even though I am indisputably one one of the most unique thinkers of the age and far more deserving than all the hand outs they afford their usual corporate slaves. Chomsky would eat out of my hand; I'm an actual genius.

>> No.17340743

>>17326153
Usually I would scoff and call it cope but I like the way you wrote and expressed this. Sometimes that makes all the difference

>> No.17340801

>>17332805
I feel you mean, I'm a tech in radiology and going down this path was a huge mistake for me. Been at it for 4 years and I become more of a misanthrope every year.

>> No.17340852

>>17340647
Enlighten us with your ideas O wise one

>> No.17340861

>>17322392
acquisition materials in museum and transcribe.

>> No.17340893

>>17340647
based

>> No.17341006

>>17322392
I work at a book store, and I'm studying computer science at university

>> No.17341089

>>17326256
You recommend finishing BA?
I'm a Phil at HD and I hate it; two semester in, both were corona, and the next one will be as well.
I hate my life and the only thing I love doing is writing, but it's not going to be profitable for a while. Do you recommend just sitting here doing jack shit for the next six semesters until I get booted, or should I just keep up the pace, finish in the next three, get my degree and only then start leeching until I no longer get studentbux?
I feel like not having a degree makes me a less of a person or something and makes me less attractive to be published, as a white, smart, good looking guy, i.e. someone appearing to be privileged as fuck and thus able to complete a degree easily--apparently,

>> No.17341331

medical student at a med school. Just started a part time VC job so we'll see how that is.

med is p effy if you enjoy just being able to learn all day. I enjoy the research side a lot but I'm learning I'm not as much of a studying machine as I thought I was

>> No.17341710

>>17336908
sir this is a wendy's

>> No.17342022

>>17335998
>>17339556
>>17336138
shame these anons never pointed us to their work
>>17341006
Is working at a book store as good as /lit/erati often dream it is? Do you meet book store qts?

>> No.17342036

>>17336173
>the most difficult part is telling the brainlets they're retarded, they're ngmi and they gotta fuck off- what eases the pain is that they disappear basically on the day they're told to leave
I have a soft spot for fellow turdbrains. It's sad at first when you realize you don't have what it takes to take a certain path but there are always hidden pathways branching off that can fit you best. Hopefully your brainlets find what works for them somewhere out there. I wanted to do veterinary tech(nursing) but there is something wrong with me when it comes to traditional classrooms and the pace of them. I cannot keep up. Am brainlet despite being eager to learn. But I have been fostering kittens for years and am really good at it plus enjoy it. So I realized I should do veterinary assistant: bedside care, giving medications, cleaning, observation, socialization. I am genuinely happy just wiping kitty asses because I like helping them. I am taking an accredited online course to become an Approved Veterinary Assistant and I am doing really well. Maybe because the subject and training is more focused into this smaller area. kek I'm even relearning math using grade school workbooks to prepare for the measurement stuff concerning pharmacology.

>>17339175
That's good to hear. I was spooked at my seasonal gig at Best Buy when I witnessed a whiny backroom employee shout "for fucks sake why cant they all just come at the same fucking time" when a doordash girl showed up for a package. I'm sure she must have heard. He was terrible to some truckers that were dropping things off,too. They're just doing their own jobs. Everytime I saw him he was complaining about the work he had to do.

>> No.17342046

Failing law student.

>> No.17342075

>>17336173
Nurse students are really stupid.
I go to Avans for Law and I overheard some of them discuss English terms for body parts and having the greatest difficulty with it.

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>>17322392
civic education

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>>17342036
>I am genuinely happy just wiping kitty asses because I like helping them.
>kek I'm even relearning math using grade school workbooks to prepare for the measurement stuff concerning pharmacology.
I always feel some mixture of seethe, jealousy, and despair when I see happy brainlets.

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Marketing Exec at BoA - mostly B2B. MPhil in Physics and Philosophy.

The pay is great, but it's dreary soul crushing work and most of my co-workers are braindead.

>> No.17342120

>>17342097
I wonder if there are even that many people with below 0 SD IQs outside of the red boards on fourchan (keyboard's fucked), there goes a great deal of autism spectrum in failing to perform competently in academics, speaking from experience. The elementary school standardised testing score was among the highest around but still I struggled again and again because of deadlines, school dynamics and bad routines.
Early autism diagnosis is essential for the forking path NEET/PhD scientist being decided.

Then again, if autism is so debilitating to regular school courses, isn't it a form of lower intelligence too?

>> No.17342124

>>17342107
How do you go from studying Physics and Philosophy to designing advertisement?

>> No.17342136

>>17342124
Not him but most of the time people end up doing jobs unrelated to their degree

>> No.17342144

>>17342124
I studied at Oxford, and then realised I didn't want to be an academic. So I applied to graduate schemes in London, with a focus on the banking sector. Then 8 years later - here I am.

>> No.17342149

>>17342144
What's the point then of studying Physics to begin with?

>> No.17342157

>>17342149
I was born into a poor family, but interested in both Physics and Philosophy and so I wanted to do an undergrad that offered both. I knew that having physics would make me more employable also (+Oxford bonus).

Also I wasn't 100% certain I didn't want to be an academic until I'd finished my degree and realised I needed money if I wanted to help my family back home and do the things I want to do.

>> No.17342188

>>17342120
>Then again, if autism is so debilitating to regular school courses, isn't it a form of lower intelligence too?
no, intelligence is intelligence, being autistic like how 4channeloids are is a lack of competence or social skills or discipline etc.
t. >>17332224 and flopping the fuck out of my easy COVID distance learning classes. although it's more because I'm really, really fucking lazy than my tism.

>> No.17342216

>>17322392
blue collar
im the only guy on this entire board that has the right to be a communist, fuck ya'll niggers, btw hispanism should've and is the way humanity cna ever reahc the closst to paradise

>> No.17342223

>>17342188
My 'tism has me harrowed.
Half of the time I am a nervous wreck prone to mental breakdown because everything hits all at once and the other half of the time I'm blissfully unaware of responsibilities with my ass on a platter reading worthless books and watching anime and manga and occasionally getting a killstreak in Insurgency.

Any intelligence that exists simply to consume and not to produce is little more than an emotion and therefore non-existent.

>> No.17342233

Last semester of Economics BA. Idk if I can do it bros....this online shit is killing me and the college puts no fucking effort into anything. Idk what job I'd get when I graduate. I haven't been inside another building other than my house since last March. I'm scared to get a job in this environment.

I wish academia wasn't such a scam. I genuinely would love to study price discrimination and Behavioural Econ. If I didn't have a girlfriend I'd become a priest.

>> No.17342234

>>17342188
Moreover, aspergers and intelligence is said to have a causal relationship.
Whether autism restructures the mind so logical thinking is taken to its logical extremes which looks like intelligence but is in fact rewiring, or higher intelligence breaks down stupid things like intuition and focusses entirely on literal understanding which normies can't into, I don't know yet.

Simon Baroh-Cohen seems to have written a lot on this subject.

>> No.17342250

Fuck my post didn't register.

Aspergers and intelligence are said to have a causal relationship.
The way I see it either intelligence reaches a point of non-empathy with brainlets OR autism rewires your logical circuits to their extreme conclusion to where you seem intelligent because of logical thinking but actually are not.

Simon Baron-Cohen supposedly wrote a lot regarding this subject.

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>>17342250
>>17342234
based boomer unable to work 4channel. I don't have anything to contribute to that topic, but I'd bet that it's the former more than the latter.
>>17342223
you're me anon.

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>>17342789
>two posts where the arguments are in reversed order
>'hurr bet that it's the former more than the latter'

>> No.17342817

>>17342233
If you’re that unsure then my advice to you is to consider changing or walking away before you graduate with that degree, as someone who was in your shoes but didn’t and wish I had.

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>>17342800
>post quoted such that it is immediately above the comment has equal standing to the post quoted further away from the comment

>> No.17343003

Clinical psychologist at a hospital doing assessment of patients with neurological damage. It's alright but a bit routine and dry. Considering going private practice

>> No.17343064

I've got a 2:2 from Leeds Met.

>> No.17343071

>>17322392
I'm a bus repairman.

>> No.17343083

>>17328913
I’ve done delivery for dominos twice in my life. The first time was great. I liked all of my coworkers and I rarely got any shit from patrons. Listening to audio books in the car is great. The second time was good too until the change in management. The new manager thought it would be cool to combine tips and give every delivery driver an even share after he took 20 percent. Real scumbag. I quit after my first pay out from that fucker. No notice. I’m willing to bet this is a rare occurrence considering all the cool people I’ve met working that kind of job. If I’m ever in a bind I’d deliver again.

>> No.17343119

NEET atm. Decided that I need to make as much money as I can in order to raise as many children as I can. I come from a line of businessmen so I'll probably do that, either accounting or sales, something high finance. Interested in coding, know nothing of it. I spend all day looking at words and not numbers so perhaps law would be better for me. I like rural life and would live it but I have no idea how to farm. I have a musical gift but I don't think I could live in that industry.

>> No.17344159

>>17342891
Autism; there is no way I could deduct with absolute certainty that's what you meant. So to be clear, you think intelligence causes lack of empathy and autistic traits instead of autism causing different perceived-intelligence wiring?

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>>17322392
Bookseller, have worked at some major bookstores throughout California.

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>>17342097

>> No.17345636

Staffer for a high ranking cabinet minister

>> No.17345683

>>17336051
Classics is great, but its another department that's now being over run by languagelets and sociology grifters.

T. also a leaf at a major university

>> No.17345726

>>17326486
Based. Make these piggies squeal

>> No.17345893

>>17345683
Classics will disappear in like 10 years here. So much talk of making it "Mediterranean Studies" or w/e term; do these people not realize that the funding and their value comes from the unique discipline of "Classics"? Say they are reorganized and combined with history. Now they have to compete for grant money with everyone else and the specific SSHRC and University allocations are more then likely not boosted for this new department (humanities overall is is dying...). Therefore the total amount now will have to be spread around for more people, not even to mention new graduate students. These people are shooting themselves in the foot by buying wholesale into the decolonization narrative. Sure, I agree with some points of this project, but on a cynical level... FUCK man.

>> No.17345924

>>17345636
leaks or fake

>> No.17346015

>>17345924
I work in a legislative position so I don't get anything good or deal with policy. I'm a standing orders and procedure overseer so I mostly plan legislative activity like when bills need to go through or what committee should look at them. Kind of like being a budget lawyer but for an extremely autistic set of niche laws that no one cares/knows about really.

I like it though. But it's a pretty bad schedule with covid so I won't stay long. Having a corner office with 20ft ceilings at 25 is a novelty though

>> No.17346067

>>17345893
Yes thats the way its looking, classics is an all too western heuristic for these people. U of T isn't quite as far gone yet but the lack of language requirements has really accelerated this affect.

Honestly here its the literature side of the department thats terrible because they don't have any grounding but contemporary deconstruction so they think and operate super anachronistically and give all the wrong ideas. The philosophers and pure classics historians are mostly fine right now.