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17328335 No.17328335[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

I'm no antinatalist but how do you justify having kids when it's better to never have existed than to exist?

>> No.17328343

It’s better to exist though

>> No.17328345

>>17328335
KEK anon, you live in a time with virtually unlimited access to books. Are you unironically in a literature board?

>> No.17328347

>says a person who exists
a bit hypocritical desu
>b-but I didn't ask for this
then why are you still alive

>> No.17328352

well you exist so clearly non-existing is worse than existing

>> No.17328391

>>17328347
>b-but I'm too scared to kill myself!

>> No.17328418

>>17328391
when a person really wants something, they do it regardless of fear and circumstances.
I mean, you don't shit yourself on the sofa just because you're scared of the dark in the corridor that leads to the bathroom

or, to use a less unelegant example from the gentleman in OP's picture, a person would rather jump from the roof of a burning building than burn alive

>> No.17328424

>>17328335
become an hero like mainländer

>> No.17328459

>>17328335
Because I think it's better to have existed than not.

>> No.17328477
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>>17328335
must suck to be ugly and poor lmfaoooooo

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>>17328343
It's true.

>> No.17328484

>>17328335
Because you're wrong, thinking it's better to have never existed is plain silliness

>> No.17328497

>>17328418
Based and do-a-flip-pilled

>> No.17328503

>>17328477
Far left is the only fuckable one.

>> No.17328515

>>17328477
wtf is that ian curtis?

>> No.17328572

>>17328347
>>17328391
>>17328418
I said having never existed is better, not not existing

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>>17328335
what's better than seeing my divine bloodline continue to spread the Aryan seed

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>>17328335
This is him now.

>> No.17328850

>>17328643
Lol @ you cumming over a stock photo from 2008

>> No.17328995

>>17328335
Having kids and raising them right is the best thing you can do to transform the world for the better

>> No.17329044

>>17328335
The world always needs good people

>> No.17329152

>>17328484
I don't enjoy life unless I'm stuck in a book or a video game.

>> No.17329181

>>17328335
Because it feels good to coom inside vagina.
Pump and dump is very based as long as im the one doing it. The rest of you should spend the better part of your lives raising "your" children

>> No.17329215

Earth is a penitentiary and I need someone to suffer for my sins.

>> No.17329225

>>17328995
>>17329044
thanks that's a good argument

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>>17329152
Then you are living life all wrong my friend. If you do not take advantage of life can you truly say you are alive? In which case you cannot truly say it is better to have never lived, as you haven't yet experienced both sensations.

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17329238

>>17329230
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genie_(feral_child)
Last time I tried to make a friend I fell into mental anguish for a year.
I will never try that again.

>> No.17329255

>>17328335
go to bed, Silenus

>> No.17329359

Humans are not the only living beings that suffer throughout their existence. Literally everything in nature is suffering. You eat or are eaten. Nature is really a godless place. The suffering in this world wont change if you choose to not have children. Life and suffering continues without you.

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Ligotti readers after punching a pregnant woman in the belly

>> No.17330374

>>17329238
filtered by friendship
ngmi

>> No.17330384

>>17328335
to perfect the self

>> No.17330385

>>17328335
I like existing

>> No.17330390

if you think suffering is bad then you are an untermensch.

>> No.17330441

>>17328335
>when it's better to never have existed than to exist?

I have literally no reason to believe this to be true.

>> No.17330475 [DELETED] 

>>17328572
What is your comparison of a) existing with b) 'having never existed before' predicated on? It seems like you have experience with only one of these two variables. Do you understand a priori what it means to have never existed? Please enlighten me: what is it like?

>> No.17330540

>>17328572
What is your comparison of a) existing with b) 'having never existed before' predicated on? If you are human like me then I suspect you have experience with only one of these two variables. Perhaps then you understand a priori what it means to have never existed. If that is the case, then I would really like to hear what it is like.

>> No.17330548

There is no better way to make world a better place than raising your children right

>> No.17330553

The world needs us as apex predators or else the Tigers take over.

>> No.17330554

>>17330548
This, but unironically.

>> No.17330555

I used to struggle for decades with the implications of antinatalism. However, I recently came across an essay that made me quite literally do a full 180 on this issue, filling me with perpetual joy for the very chance of living life, here it is:

https://youtu.be/klb4w35rcas

>> No.17330717

just dont have kids. you dont know how wrong it can go for them. youre making a vital decision for another being from a point of infinite ignorance. you havent experienced dying yet, you havent experienced the many sufferings they might or will go through. you are blind to the many sufferings that go on all the time just to cope. plus you will ruin his life while raising him too since theres no right way of raising a kid.

>> No.17330724

>>17328335
I enjoy life most of the time. Most people do. You're the exception.

>> No.17330798

>>17328335
Kids are the easiest way to find fulfillment
>that is so selfish!
lmao okay and? Here for a good time not a long time, and childrearing is the fastest route to self actualizing. Little shits can starve for all I care once I'm gone. Yes, they are a means to my ends.

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>>17328335
> I'm no antinatalist
> I only believe in literally the whole premise of antinatalism

PS: Antinatalism is a retarded ideology for midwits and pseuds refuted to hell and back by a combination of:

1. Notorious objections to hedonism, and thus utilitarianism, negative or not, as a whole (Utility Monster, Pleasure Machine, Experience Machine);
2. Depression rates are at an all time high in 1st world countries despite our higher living standards, especially compared to starving 3rd world countries, further refuting hedonism;
3. Even with depression at an all time high, the vast majority of people are not suicidal (In the sense that they do not desire suicide, not that most are impeded by survival instinct alone, for survival instinct is overcome eventually by one who is truly convicted to abandoning this life) and would not choose to "not have existed", refuting the conception that suffering renders life insurmountably terrible;
4. The vast majority of individuals can find meaning and positive value in their lives, in combination with the arbitrary and purely hedonistic nature of Benatard's asymmetry, in of itself, it is refuted;
5. Antinatalists are huge faggots as demonstrated by OP (refer to >>17329238 and take note from >>17328391), and need to go back to plebbit;

>> No.17330832

>>17330798
All this death-cope. Shaking my baka.

>> No.17330861

>>17330832
Under your own ideology acting superior to everyone else because you're constantly complaining and fearful of death is possibly the cringiest death-cope

>> No.17330876

>>17328343
Agreed. I came into my fleshlight this morning while texting my ex who I'm doing to drive 2000 miles to see next weekend. it felt incredible. It's truly worth it to be alive.

>> No.17330882

>>17330876
Are fleshlights even good?

>> No.17330888

>>17330882
yes