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Should I read To the Lighthouse or The Waves first? And is she reqlly the greatest female writer who has ever lived?

>> No.17276098

The order is
Mrs. Dalloway > To the Lighthouse > skip Orlando because it's tranny propaganda > The Waves

>> No.17276100

To the Lighthouse is one of the best novels ever written.

>> No.17276110

>>17276073
To The Lighthouse, which is less experimental but her mangum opus. Is Woolf the greatest female writer who has ever lived? Well, she's certainly my favourite.

>> No.17276114

>>17276100
Pretty much. The Time Passes section is probably the best 30 consecutive pages of prose ever written.

>> No.17276333

You should read the three guineas so you can understand why she's the most overrated female author
Reading it actually ruins her only half decent work, to the lighthouse, because you realize how empty of humanity, spiteful and petty she is
She can't even stand other female authors because they don't stock up to her ridiculous standards of how a female author should act while demanding that scum like her should be getting free money to make art or just lay around and do nothing at all
Oh also, she was I think the first person to ever pull the "literally Hitler" line of arguing

>> No.17276352

>>17276333
>Oh also, she was I think the first person to ever pull the "literally Hitler" line of arguing

In what context she did it?

>> No.17276628

>>17276352
Some proto-molyneux type thought that unemployment during the great depression might fall if women assumed more traditional roles again and let men do the working. She (who never worked a day in her life, unlike many struggling women of the times, which she viewed as subhuman collaborators of men) accuses the guy of being "a dictator, no different than the one in Italy or Germany"
Whatever the guy's opinion that was just a little extreme

>> No.17276739

>>17276098
Fpbp. The order I read them in and they increase in quality.

>> No.17276746

>>17276628
All of these symptoms she had are nothing a good dicking wouldn't have solved. Shame, because she was kind of a cutie.

>> No.17276770

>>17276114
>>17276100
cringe

>> No.17276785

>>17276770
Cringe.

>> No.17276795

>>17276785
Cringe

>> No.17276866

Why is she always pictured in profile?

>> No.17276874

>>17276746
>good dicking

But wasn't she lesbian?

>> No.17276952

>>17276073
you should read MRS DALLOWAY by VIRGINIA WOOLF, the best of all the womanly novels

>> No.17277154

>>17276874
Do you not get that lack of a proper dicking is what causes girls to become lesbians?

>> No.17277164

>>17276952

>the best womanly novel
>70% of it is a WWI vet having Vietnam flashbacks

>> No.17277207

>>17276098
You have to read The Years and Between the Acts, too

>> No.17277228

>>17276098
Orlando was a pretty fun book to read though and it dealt a lot with writing even more than gender probably

>> No.17277857

>>17277154
Is that true?

>> No.17277860

>>17276073
Start with Mrs. Dalloway

>> No.17277918

>>17277857
In short, yes.

>> No.17277923

>>17276333
>author not nice so book bad

>> No.17277941

>>17276073
>Is she really the greatest female writer who was ever lived?
Yes. The Waves alone is a masterpiece

>> No.17277963

>>17276073
Lighthouse, though Waves is the best. As for best woman, best woman novelist maybe

>> No.17277999

>>17276073
To the Lighthouse was one of the most boring books I've read but weirdly enough I enjoyed it and think it's great

>> No.17278328

>>17276770
>>17276795
cringe

>> No.17278709

>>17276073
>And is she really the greatest female writer who has ever lived?
Absolutely not, she was a spoiled, insane bitch. She may be the *worst* female writer to ever actually get published.

>> No.17278720

>>17276333
This, desu. Three Guineas is a mind-blowingly retarded and evil book.

>> No.17278750

I've only read the waves. It's phenomenal, though. I finished it months ago and still think about it every day.

>> No.17280176

>>17276073
Jane Austen is the greatest female writer who ever lived, followed by George Eliot, and Charlotte Bronte. But Woolf is still quite good

>> No.17280200

>>17276098
orlando is not about transgender people, its about an immortal guy who becomes a girl not because hes trans but because he just does
This is an example of later LGBTQ+ people appropriating literature from the past to a modern context.

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>>17280176
I love jane austen :D

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>>17280214
me too, fren

>> No.17281092

>>17278709
Pure character attacks. She was bipolar like Sylvia Plath and most likely even Nietzsche (as if his writing doesn't make it obvious, his horse episode confirms it)

>> No.17281434

>>17281092
The horse episode was a straight psychotic break or schizophrenia, not just bippy. Niggy went completely off his nut.

>> No.17281470

>>17281092
>Pure character attacks.
>She was bipolar like Sylvia Plath
>by implication, this makes it wrong to call her an insane bitch
Doesn't follow *at all*; rather, being bipolar is one of the main ways a bitch can be thoroughly insane. They might as well have called it "mad bitch syndrome".

That she was spoiled is also completely obvious if you read more than two lines of her work. Both Three Guineas and A Room of One's Own are full of demands for things and resources (including the titular room and a comfortable middle-class salary in exchange for sweet fuck all, just for being "the daughter of an educated man") which most male writers throughout history didn't have access to. They produced their great works in spite of the adverse conditions that she claims prevent women's creativity.

>> No.17281491

The painting scenes in to the lighthouse are pure kino