/lit/ - Literature

>>17256823
nietzsche, deleuze, carson, mishima, borges

>>17256823
>Ted Hughes
>James Joyce
>William Butler Yeats
>Eugene O'Neill
>Samuel Beckett

>Mccarthy
>Mishima
>Proust
>Céline
>Borges

>>17256857
What do you do for a living

>Homer
>Aeschylus
>Hobbes
>Kant
>Burke

>>17256964
On second thought drop Borges for Homer

FICTION:

— AYN RAND.

— BALTASAR GRACIÁN.

— JUANA INÉS DE LA CRUZ.

— MARCVS VALERIVS MARTIALIS.

— MIGUEL DE CERVANTES SAAVEDRA.


NONFICTION:

— BALTASAR GRACIÁN.

— HERAKLITOS.

— JOSÉ VASCONCELOS.

— LVCIVS ANNÆVS SENECA.

— SANTA TERESA DE JESÚS.

>>17257220
Based

>>17256964
So you're a fascist homosexual with an inclination towards violence and existential thinking?

https://charts.idrlabs.com/graphic/difficult-person?p=70,0,50,40,80,30,20&l=EN
>goethe
>homer
>lovecraft
>dante
>machiavelli

>>17257290
>imageboard
>links to image
>likes lovecraft

>>17256823
I am basically a sheep.

>Dante
>Baudelaire
>Aeschylus
>Flaubert
>Bernanos

>>17257360
On second thought, replace Flaubert by Balzac.

>>17256823
>Houellebecq
>DFW
>Norman Mailer
>Andre Breton
>Dostoyevsky

Tolkien
Dostoevsky
Tolstoy
Plato
Melville

>>17257375
I didn't need this test to tell me that I was a pussy

John the Apostle (& the rest of the Bible)
Tolstoy
Ellul
Kerouac
Kierkegaard

>>17256823
greetings glowies
>Zhuangzi
>Strugatsky Bros.
>Homer
>Balzac
>Heraclitus

>>17256823
>fiction
Homer
Petrarch
Moliere
Cao Xueqin
Baudelaire

>non-fiction
Augustine
Descartes
Leibniz
Bolzano
Husserl

>>17257378
Its It's Jordan Petersons maps of meaning. Looks like that one rug of his I was outbid on.

>>17257425
I mean they kind of all do

>scored a 100%
g-guys...wat do?

>>17257449
I'm a big fan of Peterson.

>scored 100%
g-guys....wat do?

>>17256823
woolf, tolstoy, amado, vollmann, didion

>>17257504
Embarsing results.

>>17257504
Didion sucks. Her writing is easily digestible, but she's vapid.

>>17257402
>Augustine
>Descartes
>Leibniz
A faint but not altogether refreshing chill enters the room.

>>17256823
Dostoevsky
Borges
Nietzsche
Gabriel Garcia Marquez
Víctor Hugo

>>17256823
Plato
Aristotle
Nietzsche
Ernst and Friedrich Jünger
Evola

>stop being self-confident, situationally dominant, aggressive and suspicious you horrible, difficult person

>>17257784
>test designed by Chelsea Sleep
Imagine my surprise.

>>17257637
Should have gone for edgier picks I guess.

>>17257384
seems like you represent everything wrong with christianity
>the meek shall inherit the earth
>o-okay, that means I just have to let others walk all over me and enable their worst impulses with a smile, right

>>17257784
also 'manipulative' includes a lot of standard social networking shit.
"noooo, don't consider future relations when deciding how harshly you criticize someone for their fuck-up"
"don't make friends with people because you can be of mutual use to each other"
"don't use flattey"
you can do all of those things responsibly, you know...

>>17257784
If you answer neutral to everything, you get this. I'd use this for average, and most people ITT have scores below.

>>17257640
>>17256857
>>17257402
Based and Manipulation pilled.

>>17257891
Also, mostly everyone does these things. If you don't recognize it you're not any less manipulative, you're just an asshole

>>17257808
>gets triggered
wew lad

>>17257808

>>17256978
grad student, artist, and call girl

>>17256823
A lot of these questions try to frame objectively rational choices into some indication of sociopathy or something. If you act with common sense you will help people if there's something in it for you, you will expect things out of relationships, you will realize you're not responsible for anyone's emotions, etc.
Anyway,:
Plato
Kant
Spengler
Wittgenstein
Carnap

>Orwell
>Martin Luther
>R.C. Sproul
>Tolkien
>Poe

>Nabokov
>borges
>Nietzsche
>Keats
> Proust

You are a very difficult person to get along with (75%)
and I totally agree

>>17257994
This. No one ever considers himself the bad guy in the story.

>>17258087
ywnbw

>>17258128
PPD?

>>17257808
because not being a callous, manipulative, suspicious, aggressive individual who nurses inward delusions about their own god-hood is the same thing as letting other walk over you. It isn't necessary to be self-absorbed to know how to take a stand when it needs doing.

>>17256823
>Robert Anton Wilson
>Isaac Asimov
>Jorge Luis Borges
>Carl Sagan
>J.R.R. Tolkien

ITT: more confirmation that philosophy really just boils down to one's chosen subjective worldview based on individual preference and personality.

>>17256857
Based

>>17258234
Where did you get these confirmations from?

>>17256823
>Dostoevsky
>Cioran
>Beckett
>Zapffe
>Antal Szerb
I do feel like the questions are a bit on the nose, and there aren't many of them. I'm also sure the most difficult people usually lack the self-awareness required to answer most of these honestly.

>>17258279
All of these tests have questions that can be interpreted in multiple ways making it meaningless

>>17258278
The general trend in which anons' personality types seem to correspond with the opinions of the authors they listed.

All philosophy is speculation, is essentially poetry. People gravitate towards the ideas that correspond with their souls. To me it's an argument against the idea of philosophy ever being able to "ascertain" the objective "truth."

I am >>17256857 fwiw

In no particular order:
-Mishima
-Baudrillard
-Borges
-DFW/Joyce
-Dostoevski

>>17258322
Ah, I see. You think that because you think Nietzche is a philosopher.

>>17258356
Better than that, he's a poet, and that's why I love him.

>>17256823
Fiction (poetry and dramatic works included):
>Geoffrey Chaucer
>John Wilmot
>Fernando Pessoa
>Jaroslav Hašek
>Samuel Beckett
Non-Fiction:
>Montaigne
>Georges Sorel
>Henri Bergson
>Norbert Wiener
>Carlos Ginzburg
>>17256896
>>Eugene O'Neill
He's not mentioned as much as he should be mentioned on this board, no one who likes O'Neill can be a bad guy.
>>17257400
>>Zhuangzi
>>Heraclitus
>>Strugatsky Bros.
A man of good taste, more than I could ever be.
>>17257402
Dream of the Red Chamber is pretty great but I'm someone who likes all four the the Chinese classics so I think I'm just odd.

>>17258322
other anon here (>>17258337), 20th century philosophers proved we cannot access true objectiveness but everyone's still coping

>>17258363
Good for you, but you don't understand philosophy.
>>17258366
>20th century philosophers proved we cannot access true objectiveness
This was shown by presocratics. 20th century philosophers proved that they didn't understand the Ancients.

Borges: 7 mentions
Dostoevsky: 5 mentions
Anglo authors utterly btfo by anon's good taste

>>17258379
which ancients? I've only read Plato and Parmenides

>>17258403
Maybe you should've read Parmenides' tutor first and then the rest of the Eleatics and related thinkers.

>Dumas
>Hemingway
>Shakespeare
>Dostoyevsky
>Homer

>>17258379
What is Heraclitus, what is Xeno.

>>17258457
Do you have an argument?

>>17257921
I don’t think so. Some statements are to be repulsed by regular social norms

>>17258473
And the average person strictly respects all social norms?

>>17258480
The average internet user should be equal to your average social media user. The same that dwells on cancellation culture and being politically correct. That group wouldn’t be comfortable with most statements

Dostoevsky, Gogol, Melville, Nabokov, Proust

>>17258497
Both of these groups are extremes. The average person is inbetween.

>people itt actually fell for the mishima meme

Do the facismtest fags. Pic related.

https://www.idrlabs.com/fascism/test.php


Favorite authors:
Dostoyevsky
Celine
Shakespeare
Rilke
F.S. Fitzgerald

>>17258303
that's how ive felt about every personality test i've ever taken

its funny that the literature board has such a hard-on for these dumb tests like half the point of literature isn't to understand human personality well enough that you don't need a 30 question quiz to tell you something about yourself

>>17258618
The test is fine, pseud.

>>17258617
>

>>17258631
why do you need an internet quiz to tell you if you're a "risk taker" or "manipulative", this is so fucking stupid lmao

>>17258617
like clockwork

>>17258648
You need the test so you can share it with your friends online so we can compare themand have fun.

Have autism.
>Lem
>Mishima
>Arendt
>Dosto
>Hesse

Haven't read all that much.
Pretty glad that I am aggressive and dominant.
Means I am not a faggot queer.

>>17258562
wow you're so smart!

>>17258617
where's the fucking pie chart
i was promised a pie chart
t. social democrat flirting with legalist formalism

>>17258617
>>17258726
Sorry fellow black people, I linked the wrong test. Here is the right one:
https://www.idrlabs.com/fascist-elements/test.php

> Emily Bronte
> PK Dick
> Sandra Simonds
> Melville
> Milton

>>17258726
Cheers fellow traveler! 49er here.

>>17258748

>Domingo Villar
>Orwell
>William Gibson
>JRRT
>Christie
>

>>17258617
>>17258748
bootlicker

>>17258804
>>17258726
44%er, post-political libertarian.

>Aristotle, Augustine, Aquinas
Have helped me the most.
>Dante Alighieri, Shakespeare

I'm a mess and I'm trying to live with it.

>Franz Kafka
>Karl Marx
>Herman Melville
>George R. R. Martin
>George Orwell

>>17258949
You look pretty balanced anon

>>17258618
They're fine for statistics works, never trust statistics applied to one case.

>>17258106
>A lot of these questions try to frame objectively rational choices into some indication of sociopathy or something
Yes because you're thinking of 'rationality' in terms of costs/benefits. Morality is something else. You may be a sociopath. Best own up to it honestly.
>Carnap
Based.

>>17258971
based midwit socio/psychopath

What I find funny about the questions is stuff like
'do you help people in ways that don't help you back?'
- yes, but im doing it to serve my compassion urge.
So what do I answer?

>>17258106
Most people don't act out of common sense.
Have you ever given charity? Some do it strictly because of moral belief and still feel bad after doing it because they're putting blame on themselves in the process or something similar, thus gaining no benefit at all, not even feeling good about themselves.

>>17259027
Even worse some people do stuff strictly because they 'should' and are afraid to break moral Norms.

>>17258106
Spoken like a true sociopath.

>>17259019
A shade of "agree" depending on how strongly/frequently you do it. You're not expecting help back from them--your reward is tied with the help and is not what the question is referring to.

Oh jeez, I used to be quite agreeable, thnx 4chan.

>taleb
>mandelbrot
>michael lewis
>heilbroner
>land

They’re all memes, but they’re my memes.

>>17259081
Shit here’s pic

>>17258895
Based

>>17257249
Sounds keyed

>>17259148
>keyed
What's the history of this word? Sounds like something /fa/ggots would force to replace kino or based to feel special

>>17256823
>Bible
>Homer
>Jonathan Swift
>TE Lawrence
>Lao Tse
I think that some of these categories are wrong, dominance should be "desire to dominate." Many people come to me for all manner of advice and consider me to be extremely emotionally mature. They usually do as I say, which is probably why it says I'm manipulative, and I'm not a risk taker either, so much as open to risk.

I have a Dutch friend who used the following phrase to describe me "de kat uit de boom kijken" which apparently means to look around like a cat in up a tree. Meaning one who is standoffish.

Hamsun
Dostoyevsky
Wenderoth
Pynchon
Pratchet

>>17258153
What?

>>17256823
You're just lucky I let you plebs share a website with me.

Jordan Peterson

>>17256823
Shakespeare, Adolfo Bécquer, Cervantes, Joyce and Lope de Vega.

>>17258748
What does this mean?

>>17258895
>wants traditional values
>has no effective plan to promote them

>>17257808
Did you even take the test yourself? One's own predisposition towards self-serving acts does not translate to his capacity to respond to and defend against such acts.

>>17259347
It means your journey just has started

>>17259364
>has no effective plan to promote them
wrong

>>17259347
Let me guess. Conservative, republican, believe in trickle down economics and cutting taxes for the rich. Hates jews and/or blacks.

>>17256823
>Oscar Wilde
>Herman Melville
>Cormac McCarthy
>Anton Chekhov
>Victor Hugo

>>17259463
No, liberal conservative socialism.

>>17256823
>Plato
>Goethe
>Schopenhauer
>Jung
>Mann
Lmao at this result. Nobody has called me difficult though. I think I manage to hide my grandiosity pretty well.

>>17259623
>Nobody has called me difficult though. I think I manage to hide my grandiosity pretty well.
I wonder how.

>>17258414
Show us the passage in which they prove this please or at least give us a syllogism

>>17258468
>he doesn't reply with an argument

>>17257323
>doesn't like lovecraft

scored 0 on dominance lol

>Foucault
>Faulkner
>Kant
>Joyce
>King

>>17259808
frogot the image

Mythology...
Great Artist's *painters,sculptures* writings
Poetry
>Rimbaud Nietzsche Verlain

>I like jung a lot.

>>17259647
Top kek

Nietzsche, Nabokov, Dostoevsky, Joyce, Dickinson

>>17259347
The colors tell me you're a tranny.

No order:
>Shakespeare
>Oscar Wilde
>Alexandre Dumas
>Walter Travis
>Ted Kaczynski

>>17260116
and here are my fascist results

>>17258617
>>17258895
>>17259347
t. scrawny white boy who has never had sex and blames his problems on society and not on themselves

>Carroll, N.
>Beardsley, M. C.
>Sibley, F.
>Kant, I.
>Aristotle

>buddha
>seneca
>epictetus
>epicurus
>Succito

>>17257384
Based. Blessed are the meek.

>>17256823
>Mishima
>Murakami
>Nietzsche
>Hemingway
>Kierkegaard

>>17259623
The grandiois, callous and manipulative triad is the best. I'm surprised so few people managed to get 100% in all three. The most soi people in this thread and most midwit are those scoring low on grandiosity.

>>17256823
I'm a very dominant person, but it gave me a lower dominance level than manipulativeness. Which I think is likely because most of the questions relating to dominance were framed in a negative light, such as "do you enjoy embarrassing someone in front of others?"

>Shakespeare
>Homer
>Horace
>Petronius
>Nietzsche
I don't believe that the results in this chart are as true to life as the regular poster would think. "Liking" the activity of, say, withholding information or ordering a person around, does not equate to me doing this often, or even in a long while. I surely would love to see a person in an adverse situation try to escape in one piece without these skills: if you are surrounded in your youth with kleptomaniacs, antisocial minds, emotionally erratic personalities, and the gloomful, taking initiative over your situation is imperative. If the results show only what I'm capable of doing, in the right moment, then I have no shame.

>>17259767
lovecraft is shit and anyone who isn't some pop culture geek doesn't waste their time with him.

My ego/self confidence has been obliterated. Pretty much everything I do at work is to appease my managers and to prevent myself from getting yelled at/berated. I think I should rank higher on suspicion, I'm constantly anxious and terrified of other people. Although most of my anger is directed at myself for fucking up constantly

>>17262052
I also don't really have any favorite authors. I mostly read sci fi/fantasy/romance. I go for whatever strikes my fancy at the time. I don't really follow authors.

>>17258322
Isn’t this a foregone conclusion?

>>17258322
Maybe you are mistaking effects for causes. Maybe their personality corresponds to their authors *because* they were influenced by their authors?

>>17256823
>George Orwell
>Sigmund Freud
>Hermann Hesse
>Leo Tolstoy
>Dr. Sue Johnson

>>17260842
My highest was grandiosity but I find it to be the worst. It comes with all the drawbacks of narcissism.

>>17256823
Bros...

Their callousness rating doesn't go high enough. Not even being edgy but I love seeing people get IRL rekt. More than not caring about their wellbeing, I actively hope for their destruction.

My gay neighbors were upstairs trying to murder each other one night and the one was screaming for help for over an hour that he was going to be killed, and by the sounds of screaming and the building shaking from him being slammed into the wall by his faggot lover and bottles smashing it was probably true. I sat next to my open window and listened to it the whole time, never called the police for him. Unfortunately someone else eventually did. Then I listened to the whole drama as the one was being arrested. Not even joking.

Dostoevsky
Mishima
Dazai
Sadegh Hedayat
Shakespeare

>>17262498
pic

Kipling
Rumi
Plath
Whitman
Bostrom

>>17258617
Lol what the fuck

>>17258748
>>17258617
Who can keep up with all this shit?

>>17258617
>>17263487
>>17263527
You are fash.
Therefore you WILL be bashed.

>>17262498
why didnt you join them?

>grandiosity
Taking a quick glance at the thread it seems like a commonly high one. /lit/... are we all narcissist assholes?

It was also my highest (overall low though), and I think maybe I am way to a degree. On the other hand, many of the questions seem like they are weak. It seems to confuse moderate pride for "grandiosity" -- I mean, some of them are just phrased like "I think I am special."

Is this post just a cope? Anyone feel similarly?

>>17263612
I think grandiosity really depends on the person. As an extreme example, can you really blame Beethoven for feeling grandiose? No, because he was in fact an extremely good artist. But if some retard nobody thought of himself as grand as Beethoven, then there is clearly a problem. So I think grandiose is only an issue when the subjective self-worth of the person doesn't correspond to their objective worth. If you are really that great, then feel free to be grandiose, but make sure you aren't making a fool of yourself by being delusional.

>>17256823

>>17263665
Why is it that physicists are humble and writers aren't? Reading seems like a pretty humble thing, you'd think writers wouldn't exhibit so much pomp. What about the literary element alludes to bombast? Perhaps the difference is internal and external.

>>17258748
I wouldn't consider myself a fascist, actually.

>>17263718
Looking at Richard Feynman, physicists seems like the worst arrogant narcissistics in existence. I've also heard that among scientists there is a stereotype that physicists have inflated egos. Not sure what you are talking about. Also Beethoven wasn't a writier.

>>17263538
You are a tranny.
Therefore you WILL never pass as a woman.

>>17263762
Good!
I am FtM :)

>>17263665
Fair take. Personally, when I answered some of those questions I was thinking about my highest points, not that I am great at everything, and far from some god among peasants.
>I think grandiose is only an issue the subjective self-worth of the person doesn't correspond to their objective worth
This rings true, and I think it can often go in reverse (having an unjustified low opinion of oneself).

>>17263718
frankly I think both display similar levels of narcissism
>>17263745
>among scientists there is a stereotype that physicists have inflated egos
that is true, but they aren't all like that

>>17263770
You will be a rape slave after my paramilitary group razes your apartment block.

>>17263745
Physicists are the worst because there is the least amount of work required to become great at it, so those who are most creative rise to the top. In biology, there is at least 5000 pages worth of textbooks to read during undergrad, and another 100 primary papers about your particular gene until you are the best at your particular topic.

>>17263777
my dream!... thanks:)

J.R.R Tokien
Aldous Huxley
Eiji Yoshikawa
Julius Evola
Plato among others

>>17256857
>>17257929
>>17258240
Seek help

>Plato
>Kierkegaard
>Wolfe
>Calvino
>too many candidates for #5, maybe some Catholic like O'Brien, Chesterton, or O'Connor
I see a lot of Plato ITT and I wonder if people actually like him or what. I learned Greek for that bastard. Kierk is thus my Socratic soul-brother.

>>17264735
people like plato because he is the first person they read in intro to philosophy then never read another

>>17261054

>Oswald Spengler
>Veikko Huovinen
>Ted Kaczynski
>Cicero
>Laotse

>>17263612
I think it requires a certain amount of grandiosity to make literature your main hobby, especially the kind of stuff /lit/ reads. I doubt many gamers see themselves as anything but worthless slobs. But if you willingly read something like Nietzsche or Plato, I don't think you strictly do so because you find it more fun than any other avenue of entertainment. You do so to 'improve' yourself so to speak or perhaps you look down on things like video games and tv shows. This isn't really suppose to be insulting. I got something like 96% grandiose.

>>17262498
>people
>gay neighbors killing each other
Doesn't really count

>>17263527
What's rebirth myth?

>>17263612
I thought the questions were bad too, but I got grandiosity the highest and I've struggled with this for a while now so I tend to think it's correct and I accepted it. I'm not edgy though so I don't think it's based; it's just something I have to learn to cooperate with.

>>17265274
>Nietzsche or Plato
These are both considered entry-tier lmao if you read Nietzche you have no reason to consider yourself "grandiose"

>>17265335
>These are both considered entry-tier lmao

Sure, by most lit group standards, but go out into the real world from time to time and see that your concepts of "entry level" do not apply.

Weber
Smith
Aristotle
Arrow
Hobbes

> Clarice Lispector
> William Blake
> Kafka
> Déscartes
> Eco

>Lovecraft
>Hesse
>Kafka
>Nietzsche
>Faulkner
>>17260567
I like you

>>17256823
>first question

Anthony Burgess
JD Salinger
Carlton Mellick III
Hubert Selby Jr
Oscar Wilde

I couldn't really name five authors, I often end up like one of their works and then dropping another book a couple chapters in. I'll do my best to follow the brief however. Yes I was struggling to come up with a fifth, I don't finish a lot of books.
>John Fowles
>David Foster Wallace
>Camus
>Kafka
>Hirohiko Araki

>>17265541
>Araki
based and brave pick. hope you don't get murdered for liking "le reddit anime hurr durr".

>>17264781
loool

What does it mean when you feel you can't answer any of these with confidence? I feel that I could honestly respond to nearly all of them using any of the 5 choices. The same thing always happens to me on any sort of "describe yourself" type assessments.

>>17262498
yet will s. is in your top 5
iago

please take the autism test next /lit

>>17266219
no thanks, i already know i have autism

>A. A. Milne
>Nietzsche
>Heaney
>Busho
>Tolkien

>>17259327
Kek

>>17258846
commie

>>17266172
Liberal Moderate scum

>Aldous Huxley
>George Orwell
>Dostoyevsky
>Charles Dickens
>don't really have a 5th

>Borges
>Hesse
>Kafka
>Dosto
>Shakespeare

>>17264781
What does this have to do with me?

I don't have any favorite authors as I don't worship anyone.
It seems we're surrounded by a lot of narcissists and psychopaths. That's funny.

>Byron
>Conrad
>Melville
>Jünger
>RE Howard

>>17268560

>>17268337
Oh wow so healthy and normal! What are you doing here based normal person? Lost your way, normalfaggot? Don't you want to go back to be surrounded by other normalfaggots like yourself?

I dont have a favorite set of authors really.

Also take the machiavellianism pill friends

>>17260842
Personally, I tricked myself into thinking I was humble to get a lower score on the test. It's the good thing with self-reported stuff, they're easy to hack.

>>17268626
Forgot image

>>17268630
>>17268626
And the fascist one

>>17256823
Hemingway
Lovecraft
Tolstoy
Marx
Aristotle

>>17268953
I share this forum with fucking psychos.

>>17258617

>>17269010
>>17258617

>>17257220
You're weird.
>>17256983
Based.

>>17257467
That's sad

>>17269010
very well, your posting privileges will remain. for now.

>>17257724
>>17258231
>>17266415
from quickly scanning, we're the most close-ish, although I could be completely misinterpreting this chart.

>Kierkegaard
>Nietzsche
>Plato
>n/a
>Mill????

>>Stephen King
>>George Orwell
>>J R R Tolkein
>>H. P. Lovecraft
>>Brandon Sanderson

>>17257784
There's a baseline for these things, and obviously some short online test isn't accurate. Everyone does some of those things to a normal extend. I didn't know what was normal until after I was ensnared by a seriously mentally ill person, was able to reflect and compare him to the average of my other friends, and realize there are some seriously fucked up people in this world that can go unnoticed for long periods of time. All these "normie" types of manipulation are kindergarden after that experience, and not even remotely compareable because normal manipulative behaviors are a consequence of a normal type of self-interest. The mentally ill person has different reasons for manipulating in the first place.

>>17257220
Hm interesting results...

>>17268589
I enjoy the company of narcissists and psychopaths. I'm sorry if that came off as cynical.

>>17256823
>Hölderlin
>Stendhal
>Kierkegaard
>Racine
>Proust

>>17256823
>Orwell
>Joyce
>Cervantes
>Eric Hobsbawm
>E. P. Thompson