/lit/ - Literature

>based gay black man in the 70s predicts and thoroughly deconstructs the tranny mindset
How the hell did he do it Bros

>>17250800
I'd say any Lem book with Ijon Tichy or Pirx, but other than Lem, Bob Forward. At the very least the first book, 'Dragon's Egg', is brilliant.

>>17250800
I prefer this cover tbqh

I'm not that deep in scifi yet but this obv

Three-body problem trilogy is pretty good for a new scifi book

>>17251120
It's getting too easy to identify the bugmen these days. Read better books

>>17251103
The Rama series is his magnum opus

>>17251103
i just got here to post this

>>17250800
Anything by Philip Dick

sure, it's nowhere near the best I've read

>>17251138
sure, it's nowhere near the best I've read

>>17250816
>>17251168
Good answers
>>17250800
Acceptable
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>>17251157
Absolute retards

>>17251197
saged

>>17251197
>he doesn't appreciate some good pulp cover art

>>17250816
Delaney is the man. Loved Dhalgren even though it's not true scifi

>>17251103
This absolutely. Otherwise A Canticle for Leibowitz is top tier, and I found Ringworld to be enjoyable and goofy.

>>17251197
you put the same book in two different categories captain shitpost

based Haldeman

As a heartless killing machine, I was a terrible failure. - Murderbot

need some azimov or hg wells up in here!

One of my favourites. The prose isn't going to blow you away, but the story is top shelf and is a great way to look at the world.

robert heinlein is the goat

>>17252200
Overrated. PKD is much better than Gibson

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>>17251310
just finished canticle and it was so good

>>17252381
>I wonder what it's like to fuck aliens: The Book

>>17254982
To be fair there's going to be I think some of that with any set of intellegent species working together.

I don't mean everyone, but like if humans and 2-3 alien races were in some sort of friendly allegence where they spent a lot of time together (barring like, literally making each other's skin melt or something) I think there would be some percentage that would go for it, especially if they're able to communicate enough to form a friendship.

>>17254940
ma nigga

he said based books guys not just whatever you stumbled on.

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>>17253554
heinlein is YA scifi I hope you don't unironically like him... anon...?

>>17255271
Are you retarded? He wrote a couple YA books, maybe like 3? Out of 30+ novels.

>>17255300
starship stormtroopers is ~PEAK~ YA scifi

>>17255327
Never read it, I posted Beyond this Horizon. Are you gonna claim The Moon is a Harsh Mistress is YA too?

>>17255327
>A book that is ~60-70% about military bureaucracy
>Somehow YA

>>17255341
>>17255340
see wikipedia
>The concept of the American frontier is also related to the coming-of-age theme. Young protagonists across Heinlein's novels attain manhood by confronting a hostile "wilderness" in space; coming-of-age in a military, alien context is a common theme in Heinlein's earlier works as well.[68]

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>>17252200
gibson ripped a lot of the concepts off from don delilo of all people.

>>17255366
>Starship Troopers has been referred to as a bildungsroman or "coming-of-age" story for Rico, as he matures through his tenure in the infantry.
>has been referred to

Also:
>a college professor alluded to my point once in an irrelevant journal, 22 years ago! So it must be true!

>>17252200
it's just really awful writing, had to put it down after 50 pages to clear my head with the contemplations of david wallace, letting his vocabulary wash over my mental genitals

>>17250862
Went to B&N to get Solaris and this was the only version they had. Had to go to Amazon to get a different copy.

>>17252200
This is famous more for being the first "cyberpunk"novel than the actual quality of the book.

>>17255366
I haven't read Heinlein, but not all coming of age novels are YA. Though most YA are coming of age stories.

>>17255451
oh fuck I'm almost done reading solaris and forgot about the movies
I see they made two movies, 1972 and 2002.
Anyone know if either is good?

>>17252373
The ending really saved that book, I felt like the rest of it was just ok.
>>17251740
I remember the world building being pretty good in this book. It's this book with the underground prisons right? They talk about hearing the "pop" of people trying to teleport out, then immediately being crushed by the surrounding rocks. Right?Fucking brutal.

>>17255366
Blood Meridian is a coming of age story, lmao.

>>17255475
The earlier one was directed by Andrei Tarkovsky, one of the greatest directors ever. His adaptation has a more personal focus than the novel, but it's fucking good. The pace is very slow, though, if that's your thing. The newer one is alright, but there's nothing to it.

>>17255475
1972 one is by tarkovsky so any "film guy" will tell you it's good, but whether it makes you fall asleep or not is for you to discover

>>17255739
>"film guy"
oh shit, there goes one now:

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>>17251138
Three-body problem is possibly the best book ever written PERIOD. The only reason people here don't like is because their soft brains cant understand hard science, and because they're sinophobe extremists

>t. Ivy League Philosophy professor that's read the entire western (and eastern) cannon and know each work like the back of their hand.

>>17255766
belongs in chink shit general

>>17255775
just like your country does, mr burger

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>>17255766
>because they're sinophobe extremists
I see, just like when a Jew calls someone an antisemite when dont like their second rate authors.

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>>17255366
>A thinly veiled political essay about the value of corporal punishment and voting rights
>"No! I'm telling you guys, it's a Coming-of-age story!"
It seems to me that someone should shut the fuck up and actually read the book he is trying to shit on.

>>17255501
>The ending really saved that book, I felt like the rest of it was just ok.
I enjoyed the mystery throughout.

>>17250800
I remember people complaining about this on some forum when he died, saying the book was sexist because he shags literally every female he comes across,
A masterpiece of course

>>17255450
>>17255455
in terms of prose, gibson is one of the best.

>>17250800
His Masters Voice is the best Lem

>>17254940
>ywn get killed by a robot pretending to be human in order to marry robot princess
why even live

>>17257245
Why do you think that?

Step aside grandpas, we are reinventing scifi

>>17257101
It isn't difficult to be "one of the best in terms of prose" in the cyberpunk genre when 90% of authors in it are children.

>>17255747
So are you saying it's bad or are you just getting autistic because someone answered the question without needlessly asserting how different they are from all the other girls?

>>17254940
maybe i should give it another shot...

What's the verdict on this?

>>17257436
You occasionally get something, but goddammit if good SF hasn't been rare as fuck. And I don't mean "action adventure in space".

>>17250800
based on what?

>>17255271
You are a retard, and your opinions are a retard's opinions.
Even if your categorically incorrect retard opinion were a fact, why would you so anxiously shrink back from a YA science fiction novel viewed as a classic in its genre? Are you so mentally cowed by Harry Potter that you think reading a children's book will transform you into a retard?

>>17259026
I really loved the first third, very intense. Meme-physics of the pump was interesting as well. Aliens didnt work for me at all. Should have just been short story like Nightfall

>>17252200
surprised at the negative comments, it is an amazing book

>>17250800
>Trapped between a mega-corporation turned government and a new Communist regime, a bunch of mad fucks make their own anarcho-capitalist society

>>17254923
Beautiful

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>>17257101
/lit/ always seethes about neuromancer prose and yet it is among the best in sci-fi. A lot of others mentioned here like Clarke, Asimov, Heinlein, other golden age writeres, have tolerable, but very basic prose, and yet nobody complains about that. I love Foundation but try reading that and then complain about prose or characterisation. I am convinced Gibsons style just filters a lot of people and then they cope with "nu uh its actually bad"

>>17257889
stumped him with that one haha

>>17261099
cyberpunk 2077 introduced a lot of normies to neuromancer, so the /lit/ contrarians naturally turned on it.

For me it's Timothy Zahn. Really recommend his other stuff in SW EU as well. SW has so much to offer with a half-decent author tackling it.