/lit/ - Literature

How did it make you a better person?

>>17185503
I won't say it's life changing but I'm coming out his stories with a different view of mankind that coming in.
He had a raw view of human nature that contemporary society does not witness, talk about, or all together ignores and avoids. I feel like I have a better understanding this nature than I did.
Not to mention, there is so much mundane historical significance as the backdrop that was just fascinating to read about from his perspective living it.

>>17185586
Forgive the typos.

>>17185468
Which edition did you read? Is the Penguin one okay?

>>17185586
Interesting thanks, not sure i'll take the dive but I might pick up an abridged and see what it's like.

>>17185709
Let me see, I read the one on Amazon kindle. It did not seem censored in any way because there was some stuff in there that surely would be if it was. Its a big book at just under 50,000 pages. Probably easier to read digital than physical.

>The rare unabridged London Edition
>of 1894 translation by Arthur Machen
>to which has been added the
>the chapters discovered by Arthur Symons.

I have always been interested in these memoirs. Can you explain why he was so obsessed with chasing tail, and what did others think of him. I assume he was charming, so their impressions on him must have been rather forgiving.

>>17187375
He was a man that was not ashamed of his desires. I wouldn't say he was obsessed, because he did not think about women solely. He had an adventuring, restless spirit and traveled all over Europe just to experience life. Along the way he met women and his feelings led him to fall in love. I would say he was deeply in touch with his emotions. He was extremely socially intelligent.
Everyone he met he treated with respect when they deserved it. He did not aim to deceive others and actually possessed a sound, pragmatic moral compass. He had class, manners, wit and called it like he saw it. That's how the son of an actor was able to hang out with nobles, princes, princesses, kings and queens. He lived with pride and dignity but also modesty and he called himself out when he erred. I guess you could say he had street smarts and book smarts, neither going too far in either direction.
I would be hard pressed to find such a raw description of ones life as this not just because of who he is but also because of the time he lived where he was able to talk about things that are taboo now.

BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP

>>17188201
Casanova liked a womans face the most

>>17185468
I didn't read it but is it true that he fucked a 9-year-old girl? Does he talk about it in the Memoirs?

>>17185754
>50,000 pages
Isn't it more like 3,500 pages tops? Maybe you mean 50,000 Kindle locations.

>>17188275
Yes he writes about that. There were two little girls that tried to outdo eachother by fucking him. They werent virgins though. I think Casanova was 18 at the time. He said something like if someone says they hate life, they must not have had a threesome with two young girls.
Him and his friends kidnapped a mans wife from him and gangbanged her. He said she thanked them afterwards and lied to her husband about it.
He fucked a couple of his daughters I think.
He fucked a quite a few girls under 18 but "pedophilia" wasn't a thing back then. It wasnt odd for a 30 year old dude to court a 14 year old and bang her. But their virginity was prized.so there was a thing with girls trying to pretend they were virgins and being careful with who they fucked.

>>17188280
Well yea, it was 50,000 kindle pages. I just read something that said it is twice as long as Tolstoy's longest book (war and peace?) if that helps.

>>17185468
I wanted to start reading, but I’m having trouble finding a good translation. Which publisher are you reading? I was going to buy the box set for around 150 dollars

>>17188320
He did in fact fuck a couple of his daughters from different mothers at different times in his life, I mean.

>>17188332
Arthur Machen translation, free kindle edition on Amazon, which was done by some volunteers it says.

>>17188346
Thank you. I read his Wikipedia article a month ago and was really interested, but I feel like I’ve spoiled it a bit now lol.

>>17188320
Based uberChad. Jeffrey Epstein would be proud.

>>17188320

Woah based. This other anon is a cuck claiming him to be a sensible man with a normal moral compass.

>>17188364
I am that other anon. He didnt think any of this was wrong because the women liked it. He knew womens nature. His moral compass was not normal, especially by todays standards but he was no monster. He had a conscience. He never raped a women unless he knew that she wanted force and so it wasn't really rape. If they rebuffed his advances he would back off and try other avenues that the woman agreed with.
You really have to read the memoirs to understand who he is because the common perception is false.
>>17188360
He liked love and the women he was with loved him after he gamed them. He didn't like an easy lay or forcing a girl to love him.

>>17188359
I doubt it, the memoirs are really long plus reading his life in own words will give you the good insights that you won't get from wikipedia

>>17188402
>He never raped a women unless he knew that she wanted force and so it wasn't really rape.
Imagine how this shit would fly in court nowadays.

>>17185468
How well does Fellini's movie do him justice?

>>17188461
I feel as if a movie is too short to actually fit the whole story in

>>17188461
I havent seen any of the movies about him. Im not sure they would portray him accurately. Theres the man from the memoirs and then theres the myth that everyone knows about, that hes a lying, deceitful, womanizer and thats all false.

>>17188320
>He fucked a couple of his daughters I think.
Dropped.
I mean, the man was the original coomer. He's like: -I wanna have sex no matter the consequencies, no matter what.
Not a nice role-model IMO.

>>17188475
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>>17188475
He's sympathetic in the movie, some fruedian mother abandonment issues are implied though. I'm more interested in his ascetic retirement to a garret but not if it inspired 50,000 pages of focus on women. I'm not reading that, I'd rather go fuck 50,000 bitches - everyone who has ever lived among women knows that once you hit a critical number the rest will fall like dominoes.

>>17188521

But women think that's hot. So long as you're handsome and have already dicked / raped / gangraped women before. Because the ladies love experience

>>17188533
>I'm more interested in his ascetic retirement to a garret
So... he died ALONE??

>>17188547
he died involuntarily celibate.

>>17188521
He liked to fuck, his daughters like to fuck. Big fucking deal.

>>17188537
>But women think that's hot.
I don't doubt it. But that's still TOTALLY, IRREDEEMABLE, ABSOLUTELY
FUCKED-UP.
I guess, that's why we shouldn't guide our moral compass by women. They're too feeble-minded.

>>17188547
Oh yea. He never wanted to marry, to tie himself down and ended up alone tending a library at a castle. He hated being old and losing his looks. He tried to take up traveling again in his 50s but it was too late for him, he didn't have it in him anymore.
>>17188533
>fruedian mother abandonment issues
Drama.

>>17188563

I too agree with this here post. Very keyed

>>17188563
>He liked to fuck, his daughters like to fuck. Big fucking deal.
Anon, your children will have a huge chance of being born RETARDED.
Stop being a nig-nog. Even your cumming gotta have some kind of limit.

>>17188584
>>17188591
Anyways, it was a different time that we are judging on todays standards and society. I'm not saying I'll bang my daughter but Casanova didn't seem to care about his children. He was always traveling and moving. There was no child prevention, birth control, or useful condoms. People fucking died left and right of shitty diseases and poverty. His daughters, and the mothers, had no qualms about it. He was a real one.

>>17188618
>Anyways, it was a different time that we are judging on todays standards and society.
Not TODAYS standarts. The standarts of ALWAYS, ANYWHERE. Even african tribes have taboos against fucking your own children, and
FOR A GOOD REASON.
Also, the way you're describing the guy he wouldn't care for contraceptive methods of nowadays either.

>His daughters, and the mothers, had no qualms about it.
I don't doubt, I bet they were equally shit.

>>17185468
Did he fuck men?

>>17188618
Also, I would argue that today's society is CLOSER to his values than EVER. That is,
we are only a little step behind him if we keep on pursuing the morals of pleasure,
the morals of "if-it-feels-good-it-is-right"
(Can you think in a more womanly way of reasoning?).

That said. He, just like, De Sade is an interesting study-case for this kind of thing.

>>17185468
How do you approach such a behemoth of a book? Did you read much else this year?

>>17188655
Yes he does say it was a sin but he thought his daughter was hot and she was into him so they fucked. Whoop di doo.
Incest taboo is some evolution thing about genetics, it isnt moral. Its not like they knew anything about genetics back then anyways. The church probably said fucking your kids was bad but he was liberal in his thinking. He probably figured "hey whats so bad about consensual sex with my sexy daughter".
>>17188668
No but there was some femme dude that tried to get him to fuck him and he said he almost did.

>>17188690
When I read the book I read a full chapter to make progress and not end up in the middle of some line of story after a week or more of not reading. Mostly read it when I had a lot of time in the mornings. I read about 30 other books this year. I have a lot of free time I guess.

>>17188668
Also he went to this old ladies house and she was basically trying to pimp her very young son to him. The boy was trying to sit on his lap and grab his dick. Casanova was disgusted by it and left.

>>17188700
>Incest taboo is some evolution thing about genetics, it isnt moral. Its not like they knew anything about genetics back then anyways.
Holy Anglo. He thinks the only way of knowing things is though graphs and shit.
He can't even grasp the idea that the ancients knew stuff INTUITIVELY or by experience that science just now is confirming.
Also, if genetics isn't a souce of ethics even for the materialistic bugmen I don't know what to say...

>>17188747
No, thats what I said, its evolutionary, so its already built-in, or "intuitive" like you said. Anyways, I can tell incest is a touchy subject for you, I'm sorry. Kinda weird how incest porn is super popular though.

>>17188700

People are instinctively repulsed by incest for the same reason that animals are not drawn to their closest kin. Because animals that are were prone to siring weaker and defective offspring

>>17188700
>>17188720
Disappointing. Also
>old lady
>very young son
How does that work?

>>17188714
That's very cool, thanks. What made you pick this one in particular? Did/do you have other similar memoirs in mind for future reading?

>>17188789

Her son was likely autistic then.

Perhaps autistic about sucking cock

>>17188763
>Kinda weird how incest porn is super popular though.
Not weird at all. Have you ever heard of Freud?
There is some enticing thing about taboos. That's PRECISELY what makes them hot. But the fact is:
Most people don't go ahead!
They draw a line. They think about the consequences. They keep it at their imaginations if something because they know the price is too high. There is an increased genetic risk already aknowledged. Now, I would argue there is also a SENTIMENTAL DAMAGE done to your relationships. It's no wonder he ended up all alone besides having many children. He didn't form LOVING RELATIONSHIPS with them. Because he was probably too busy trying to bang them.

>>17188320
Ultra based, gonna get the book now

Bump, more people should read about threesomes with 9 year olds

Im on page 1800 and can say its one of my fav books

ok, aside from the cunny, what was the hottest escapade you would want to recreate?

>>17185468
Should I read the abridged Willard Trask translation or is it worth reading them all?

>>17188168
Thanks for this description, you actually made me want to read it.

>>17190601
Same question.

>>17188847
It was hard times in 1700 europe. the woman did what she had to do to survive and that meant grooming her kids to fuck men for money. The book shows how shitty life was because Casanova states it just like its ordinary, because it was to him.
>>17188839
I saw someone else was reading it and realized that Casanova is not just a story and everything is based on something. Lo and behold it was this enormous book that was nothing like I imagined it to be. The book was also only relatively made public, sometime in 2010.
I have become interested in reading more memoirs. Reading the older memoirs, they don't have any bias about how they sound a hundred years later so the little details are whats interesting. Catherine the Great wrote a memoir and I already know a little bit about her.
>>17188872
i can't answer your questions man, you'd have to read the book. His relationship with his family did not seem to be harmed at all. It's just how life was back then and also specifically for him. He banged women, then left. He wrote that one of the daughters he fucked most likely had a kid that was his and they all visited when he was old.
Mostly, you said he wasn't a good role model and I disagree. He was a human that laid down his entire life for anyone to read, faults and all. He says one of his motivations for writing the memoirs was so that others can learn from his mistakes. He had a terrible gambling habit all his life that screwed him over for instance. Your role models may seem perfect but they don't tell everyone everything. Casanova lived in a savage time, when life was dangerous, and came out mostly on top. There is no doubt he was an intelligent man and there is a lot of life wisdom to be gleaned from his story.
>>17190141
I was just thinking that last night. No other book I've read has made me laugh, upset an angry and stuck reading like this one.
>>17190588
It's hard to recall because he did have a lot of romances. There were a couple girls that were not "initiated in the arts of venus". One of the girls pretended not to be interested but then he pulled his dick out and cam. She was interested then.
Another girl was very obstinate but then he took a walk with her and her more interested friends and was able to get the obstinate one to play with his cock. She was more inclined to do it when her sluttier friend was with her.
>>17190601
>>17190746
I couldn't say. Personally I would want the full story with nothing missing, because I want the fullest picture. I'd read it all, even when hes kind of going on a tangent or talking about some business he did because those parts show what life was like and his inner thoughts when hes reflecting.

>>17185754
>From 1838 to 1960, all the editions of the memoirs were derived from the CENSORED editions produced in German and French in the early nineteenth century.
>Arthur Machen used one of these inaccurate versions for his English translation published in 1894 which remained the standard English edition for many years.

>>17191089
I'm going to read it sometime. He sounds one of a kind, puts modern womanizers to shame. I envy his gregariousness even though I know I couldn't be like him if I tried.

>>17191309
Really? Shit thats bullshit. I wonder what I missed out on. It was already risque.

Where can I find the uncensored version, I can only find Machen's translation

>>17191558
From wikipedia

English version
>History of My Life, New York: Harcourt, Brace & World, 12 vol. in 6 (4,568 pages), 1966–1971. Willard R. Trask complete translation of the Brockhaus-Plon reference


Brockhaus-Plon reference
>The manuscript remained hidden for many years because Brockhaus didn't want it to be pirated further. Then wars and economics crises slowed their edition projects until the end of the 1950s.

>The first complete and authentic edition of the text was published between 1960 and 1962 (minus the four lost chapters, replaced by their Laforgue version, with the annotations by Schütz).

>The Bouquins reedition (1993) has since become the first French reference edition


Well looks like I'll have to read it again sometime.

>>17191624
https://archive.org/details/histmylife00casa/page/n5/mode/2up

Are all of the abridgements shit tier

>>17191721
This is only volumes 5 and 6. I found the complete works on amazon but they are $200+

>>17188320
Obviously to a teenage coomer this sounds appealing but in the grand scheme of things, this is just garbage content that will leave you with frustrated desires. Why would you willingly subject yourself to this garbage?

>>17194582
I changed my mind. I am just a pathetic jealous incel.

Is this edition worth it? https://www.amazon.co.uk/Complete-Memoirs-Casanova-Illustrated-Unabridged/dp/1781393796/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

>incel eyes and face shape
The whole book is a work of fiction, I doubt he ever fucked anybody

>>17194725
This. He wasn't handsome. How did he manage to do it?

>>17195283
>He wasn't handsome
But he wasn't too ugly. If you are above a 4 in looks game is a real and viable option.

>>17194725
>>17195283
You guys fell for the meme. Most womanizers are little weasels. What sets them apart is their willingness to have sex as much as possible, at all costs.

>>17194725
People used to be fairly ugly, bordering on deformed.

>>17195515
>What sets them apart is their willingness to have sex as much as possible, at all costs.
What do you mean?

>>17195521
>People used to be fairly ugly, bordering on deformed.
Retroactively refuted.

>>17195532
What do you mean, what do I mean?

>>17195538
dude has half a nose, no woman is into that

>>17195544
>at all costs
What would them be willing to do that the others are not?

>>17195557
>dude has half a nose, no woman is into that
Say that to MJ.

>>17195595
More or less orient their lives around bedding as many of the women they desire as physically possible.
Overcome every personal inhibition and insecurity.
Be willing to cross any social boundary, even if it puts them in physical danger from other men.
Anything, as long as they believe she wants it. And it's not desperation, which entails bitterness. They want women so bad that they genuinely empathize with them and take their side, and understand them to the extent that they play them like a musician playing their instrument.

>>17195774
I am too retarded to even keep friends

>>17194582
Even beyond the coomer material the stories show how women engage with sex and relationships.

>>17196264
>Even beyond the coomer material the stories show how women engage with sex and relationships.
Could you give some example?

>>17196583
the book is full of examples so idk. he didnt like women who just gave in, he liked to game them. what is clear is that the women he seduces knows he is seducing them, try to resist (a part of the game) and eventually succumb when he says the right things.
you might mistakenly assume that the women have no idea that hes seducing them and hes some trickster but he explains what he sees is going on their heads and explains the game.

he was staying at this jew house and the jews daughter brought him coco and shit..he liked the girl, showed her some smutty pics, but she didnt put out because of her virtue. casanova then caught her practicing the positions with some other dude in the night. Casanova got mad that he was led on about her virtue, told her he saw her and she said she didnt love him so she wasnt going to put out. casanova left to forget about her but then by chance had to come back to the house. he basically ignored her but then she came into his room in the night to defend herself but casanova didnt simp and ignored her still. she came in again the next night and the fucked.

i didnt see any reason for her to end up screwing him but apparently he saw it coming and understood it. so yea its just interesting to read about this kind of interaction so frankly.

Thanks OP. Now there are two books I must finish this year: Casanova's Memoirs and The Bible.

>>17196673
>i didnt see any reason for her to end up screwing him but apparently he saw it coming and understood it. so yea its just interesting to read about this kind of interaction so frankly.
Good. Post more of this kind of stuff.

Theres tons of comfy 18th century travel lit that might also interest you OP. Like Goethes "Italian Journey" , where he meets Cagliostro and has fun adventures.

>>17188402
>He never raped a women unless he knew that she wanted force and so it wasn't really rape.
Imagine unironically typing this down and feeling confident enough to press 'Post'

>>17197622
It's a very real thing, incel-kun.

>>17197629
I'd expected you to call me a sjw or simp or whatever but "incel" surprises me. How's that an incel take?

>>17197647
>How's that an incel take?
Your lack of experience with woman.

>>17185468
It is a great read. Im a bit sad no one seem to recognize him as a philosofer as he wanted.
A great man, he lived life by adventures and honestly thats just the goal.

>>17198199
>to recognize him as a philosofer as he wanted.

he should´ve started writing and reading and making that the first priority in his life, flirting and fucking women on the long term is a very shallow goal

>>17198393
But how can you philosophize about life if you haven't lived life? That doesn't make sense.

>>17198418
>But how can you philosophize about life if you haven't lived life?

you´re thinking like a women if you think that fucking a lot of people counts as life experiences, most philosophers never even left their country of origin when they released their magnum opus, Lord Byron in my perspective was more accomplished than Casanova because he at least putted effort in being artist, he wasn´t the best but you can bet he wasn´t mediocre like Casanova

>>17198447
You're thinking like a women if you think all Casanova did was fucking people.
See >>17188168

>>17198447
You're thinking like a woman if you think all Casanova did was fucking people.
See >>17188168

>>17188320
Do you actually believe any of this?

>>17197622
What defines rape is the absence of consent.

>>17198418
What he did does not differ from constant porn consumption in any meaningful way

>>17198453
well i haven´t read his memoirs but i read this thread and by culture osmosis i know he was a womanizer, nothing wrong with that but i can´t take a person seriously if he says he wants to be X but he only putts effort in being Y, i mean it looks like he was some sort of slave of his own vice, like a buffoon hedonist

>>17198458
>>17198474

>>17198469
Are you retarded? He had to actually interact with people, find out and adapt to their desires, in order to do what he did. Porn consumption is nothing like that except for the physical gratification.
>>17198474
>well i haven´t read his memoirs but i read this thread and by culture osmosis i know
Opinion disregarded.

>>17198481
>Opinion disregarded.

did he at least did some writings pertaining to his philosophy? i want to see it and if he didn´t, i stand by my claim that he was a buffoon hedonist

>>17198494
This can't be real lmao
Read his fucking book, then come back and discuss it instead of assuming you know what's in there.

>>17188320
>Him and his friends kidnapped a mans wife from him and gangbanged her. He said she thanked them afterwards and lied to her husband about it.
>He fucked a couple of his daughters I think.
>He fucked a quite a few girls under 18 but "pedophilia" wasn't a thing back then.

>>17198499
mate i´m still reading the greeks, i don´t have the time or motivation to read 1000+ page summary, you can give me the summary of his personality/persona or you can get emotional because no one can "understand" this ragazzo, it´s up to you

>>17198015
Not him, but you're clearly projecting, my friend. Every single thing you've posted in this thread sounds like the plot to a porn film. It's literally the kind of thing that could only appeal to young men who still think that life is about having sex with as many women as possible.

>>17198514
>summary
memoir*

>>17198514
>mate i´m still reading the greeks, i don´t have the time or motivation to read 1000+ page summary
That's alright, but stop assuming you know what's in a book if you haven't read it, that's something pseuds do
>you can give me the summary of his personality/persona
He was a sophisticated man who knew how people worked very well and used that for his own goals
>or you can get emotional because no one can "understand" this ragazzo, it´s up to you
Seethe

>>17198530
>He was a sophisticated man who knew how people worked very well and used that for his own goals

he was a buffoon hedonist then, what goals his accomplished? getting more laid? getting rich? truly "impressive"

>>17198540
It's getting embarrassing anon, you should really stop now. How can he manipulate people but also be a buffoon? Are you mad he got laid more and richer than yourself? You're coping so hard lmao

>>17188570
>I guess, that's why we shouldn't guide our moral compass by women. They're too feeble-minded.
This is the gist of it. Women were never meant to be the authority of anything, let alone morality.
The hierarchy of moral authority is thus: God>man>woman.
Weininger pointed out that women are not immoral, but amoral. They cannot think morally, because they are emotional thinkers, not rational thinkers. Morality is defined as practical reason. Women are too swayed by what "feels" good or bad, rather than what objectively is. This is why they can't see the contradiction of being a vegan and defending abortion, for example. They picture cute animals dying and feel bad, but they cannot feel the same for a fetus, even though rationally we know life starts at conception.

>>17198516
>Every single thing you've posted in this thread sounds like the plot to a porn film.
You don't know who I am. Link me to my posts, I defy you.
Also, since you got mildly offended by my claim I'd argue YOU are the one projecting.

>It's literally the kind of thing that could only appeal to young men who still think that life is about having sex with as many women as possible.
I argued against absolute coomery this whole thread. You're clueless.

>>17198554
>Are you mad he got laid more and richer than yourself?

not really at the contrary, i also like to flirt and have sex with women, it´s my mission to be a fuccboi, but the difference is that i treated as a hobby, i don´t want to be my first priority because it´s a soulless thing to do, gets you more empty than anything, so when i see a little poser like you trying to overrate him, makes me cringe a bit

>>17188320
>>17185468
Have you considered the fact that his entire shtick was lying about how much he fucked and experienced in life, just like the drunk at your local bar claiming he owns Apple or whatever? From all I've read about this guy, he sounds like your average old burnout telling tall tales to all who would listen, like a ye olde Joey Diaz.

>>17198581
> it´s my mission to be a fuccboi
> but the difference is that i treated as a hobby
The absolute state of retards lmao

>>17198578
Dude, women don't like being raped. They don't like being kidnapped. The vast majority aren't interested in anyone other than their husbands. And if they were kidnapped and raped, they certainly wouldn't lie to their husbands about it. The stories in that book are completely made-up.
>>17198590
I've met dudes like this, too. It's more common in the Third World than it is here, so that might explain why so many people are taken in.

>>17185468
Congratulations, OP! It's an exceptionally good book. Funny, insightful, exciting.

>>17198593
i´m young and healthy, i have artistic inclinations, but also want to have experiences with women, is that a bad thing? it´s a challenge trying seduce the opposite sex,but you can bet your ass i will do it, and unlike you, i will take action, you can jerk off with Casanova all you want, he´s an interesting figure for sure but he isn't the end of all be

>>17194638
No, this is the censored version, "unabridged" notwithstanding.

The uncensored English version is out of print. You need to search for it used. It was published between 1960 and 1962. It is not easy to find.

Consider learning French and buying the Pléiade edition, ISBN 9782070148424.

>>17198622

>>17198554
Not him. What is his philosophy?
Could you link me to his major PHILOSOPHICAL work?
If his goal was philosophy why did he write a memoir instead?

Was he a footfag like I've heard? And did he do any males

>>17198590
nah its all believable.it seems foreign to us because sex is almost taboo but back then it was nothing to really brag about. he was just sharing his life with good intent. he didnt even finish his books. dont know why its so hard to believe someone like this existed

>>17198628
>i´m young and healthy, i have artistic inclinations, but also want to have experiences with women, is that a bad thing?
So you're the new Casanova?
> it´s a challenge trying seduce the opposite sex,but you can bet your ass i will do it, and unlike you, i will take action
Somehow I don't believe you, why do you assume I don't?
> you can jerk off with Casanova all you want, he´s an interesting figure for sure but he isn't the end of all be
I never said he was, I just said he's not what you assume him to be but you continue acting like a know it all retard

>>17198634
>It can only be philosophical if he had called his work "philosophy"
Alright then

>>17198642
>nah its all believable.it seems foreign to us because sex is almost taboo but back then it was nothing to really brag about. he was just sharing his life with good intent. he didnt even finish his books. dont know why its so hard to believe someone like this existed
You mean to tell me that this kind of depravity was normal in the Europe in which being an atheist and questioning the received moral teachings was, for any normal human being, a death sentence? In the Europe in which the Catholic Church still had a very real claim to temporal political power? In the Europe in which Protestants and Catholics slaughtered each other in the streets?
Yeah, nah dude, I'm gonna have to say no to that one.

>>17198652
No it wasn't normal, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen. People like this have always existed, still do, he just wrote a book about it.

>>17198418
The fuck. He lived the fuck out of life more than anyone here.

>>17198466
For the most part yes. He even tried to censor peoples names so they wouldn't be scandalized. He knew it might be read by people who knew him.

Casanova is making incels mad 500 years later. Hilarious

>>17198643
>So you're the new Casanova?

i don´t know you tell me

>Somehow I don't believe you, why do you assume I don't?

because you act like a kid who discovered his first pua video, pretty cringe

>I never said he was, I just said he's not what you assume him to be but you continue acting like a know it all retard

the way you defend him seems like you have some homoerotic inclination towards him, is that right?

>>17196820
Just read the memoirs. Open to the middle of the book and find one where he talks about the love he is currently trying to be with.

>>17198661
You just said that it was normal. And no, I don't think that men who have sex with their own daughters, kidnap and gangbang other men's wives, and have threesomes with girls as young as nine have ever existed. This is clearly fiction.

>>17198662
>For the most part yes. He even tried to censor peoples names so they wouldn't be scandalized. He knew it might be read by people who knew him.
I think you're being a little bit too credulous here. Has it ever occurred to you that people can write and publish lies without incurring any consequences?
>Casanova is making incels mad 500 years later. Hilarious
My fiancee and I will be married within the year.

>>17198642
It is of course not hard to believe a guy existed that fucked a lot, but what IS hard to believe is that a character like this also didn't embellish whatever stories he had and made up at least half of them. Seriously, I've been around enough drunks, junkies, criminals and shady characters to recognize embellished or straight up made up stories, and Casanova REEKS of it. You're telling me a pussyhound gambling addict never told a tall tale in his life, embellished the truth or made up stories to entertain other scumbags in a tavern? Everything you've posted in this thread thus far sounds like the average bullshit story you hear in a bar or a comedy club after midnight. Only very young people or those who have never wandered in the "shadow side" of society would read this shit as fact without a massive pinch of salt.

>>17198662
>The fuck. He lived the fuck out of life more than anyone here.
That was my point, genius.
>>17198678
>And no, I don't think that men who have sex with their own daughters, kidnap and gangbang other men's wives, and have threesomes with girls as young as nine have ever existed.
You're very naive. This happens even today.

>>17198652
Im saying sex was not hard to come by like it is now. Everyone and their dog had sex easily.

>>17198672
You somehow want to reduce Casanova to only fucking women while ignoring all the other things he did yet somehow think of yourself as some Renaissance man fuccboi? Lmao, fuck off
>because you act like a kid who discovered his first pua video, pretty cringe
>the way you defend him seems like you have some homoerotic inclination towards him, is that right?
Stop projecting, retard

>>17198700
>You're very naive. This happens even today.
My dude. I've got bad news for you.
>>17198708
No, it wasn't, and no, they didn't. Why do you believe these absurdities?

>all these anons defending this degenerate
Would you defend Casanova if he was doing this to your sister or daughter?
Do you even Golden Rule?

YOU TWO. STOP ARGUING. GO TO BED.

>>17198719
nooooo not the heckin sisterino!!!

>>17198714
>My dude. I've got bad news for you.
What, that you're either naive or retarded? Don't worry, it was obvious.

>>17198712
> yet somehow think of yourself as some Renaissance man

i don´t think myself as an artist, i said i have artistic inclinations (playing the guitar, reading books, etc...)

>you somehow want to reduce Casanova to only fucking women while ignoring all the other things he did

that´s what i asked from you, and you didn´t give me anything, i want to read his philosophy works for instance, you can´t even do a name drop

>Stop projecting, retard

stop getting emotional anon

>>17198622
>Dude, women don't like being raped.
Firstly, I'm not OP. OP is retarded for idolizing this O.G. coomer.
That said, the thing you don't get is that these women weren't really "raped".
Casanova, truth be said, had a good grasp of human nature and coud see, right behind their babble, their interior motives.
If you don't believe me, just think about how there is an entire field of knowledge dedicated to the study of the human unconscious.
These "rape" cases he's talking about are the ones of the kind of Cristiano Ronaldo:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49078808

>>17198727
see
>>17198697

>>17198722
I'm sure you Americans are ok with your sisters becoming whores and single mothers, but family is still important in other parts of the world.

>>17198736
I don't think so, dude. Kidnapping and gangrape are not quite the same as someone deliberately going to a man's house of their own free will. If you can't tell the difference, then...

>>17198732
>i don´t think myself as an artist, i said i have artistic inclinations (playing the guitar, reading books, etc...)
So you're just a fuccboi then with nothing else going for him, just like how you imagine Casanova to be?
>that´s what i asked from you, and you didn´t give me anything, i want to read his philosophy works for instance, you can´t even do a name drop
You don't want to read him, you want people to confirm what you think of him.
>stop getting emotional anon
Once again, stop projecting.

>>17198740
Of course some of it's probably exaggerated and embellished, that doesn't mean none of it happened.

>>17198746
I'm Australian. Gonna seethe ?

>>17198757
>some of it
From what you've told us here, it sounds like at least 90% of it is pure nonsense and at most 10% at all related to any real-world occurrences.

>>17198760
Nah. That just tells me you don't really believe what you're spouting and just taking a piss on it like you do with everything.

>>17198765
I've not told you anything anon, but just because you live a sheltered boring life doesn't mean everyone does

>>17198749
How disingenous. I was talking about the "rape" cases you frequently see on the media.

>>17198753
>So you're just a fuccboi then with nothing else going for him, just like how you imagine Casanova to be?

i´m not a fuccboi....yet but i have other things as first priority compared to flirting and fucking

>You don't want to read him, you want people to confirm what you think of him.

don´t be mad anon, eventually i will read him, i´m pretty sure i´m going to be entertain by it but i don´t see the man as a "philosopher", you´re too shy to even name a philosophical work that he did

>Once again, stop projecting.

Anon...chill out

>>17198774
My life is far from sheltered and boring. I'm simply not stupid enough to fall for tall tales just because they're written down in a book.

>>17198776
No you weren't. You were talking about the rape incidents described in Casanova's "memoirs."

>>17188168
Sounds like arnie.

>>17198779
>i´m not a fuccboi....yet but i have other things as first priority compared to flirting and fucking
So did Casanova, that doesn't mean he didn't do both. Fuccboi was your words, not mine.
>you´re too shy to even name a philosophical work that he did
I haven't read any of his other works, that doesn't mean there's no philosophy in his memoirs. Do you need the word "philosophy" in the title for it to count?
>Anon...chill out
You're still projecting.

>>17198776
Also, I'm pretty sure there's a Law concept that might help me throwing light over this subject but that I unfortunately can't seem to recall ATM.

>>17198780
Apparently your life is so sheltered and boring you assume they're all tall tales. Like I said, I'm sure some of it's exaggerated, but most of it seems pretty plausible given how humans have behaved throughout history.

>>17198806
I don't think so, mein Neger.

>>17198787
Precisely. I was talking about how MOST of them are equivalent or too much alike.
And about how (most of the time) he did EXACTLY what they (women) wanted him to do.

>>17198812
You think wrong then, interact with people more often.

>>17198795
>So did Casanova, that doesn't mean he didn't do both. Fuccboi was your words, not mine.

yes, i want to know more about what he did apart from the sex and flirting, you still didn´t give me a answer

>I haven't read any of his other works, that doesn't mean there's no philosophy in his memoirs. Do you need the word "philosophy" in the title for it to count?

what´s his philosophy then?

>You're still projecting.

baby, chill out

respond >>>>> > > > >> >>17198638

>>17196264
This is just depressing. Life truly is a game

>>17198813
You know, don't you think that Casanova would write his own memoirs such that he looks like this huge alphachad monster of a stud? Do you really think that this dude would tell the truth about having kidnapped and raped another man's wife?
At this point I'm starting to think that you're trolling.

>>17198819
>yes, i want to know more about what he did apart from the sex and flirting, you still didn´t give me a answer
OP has posted examples all throughout this thread about this, you don't need me for that.
>what´s his philosophy then?
This has to be bait
>baby, chill out
keep coping

>>17198649
What are his philosophical influences?
Did he write "out of the blue"?
There was no thinker of the past that influenced him?

>>17198850
>OP has posted examples all throughout this thread about this, you don't need me for that.

yeah when he banganged a woman with a fellow friend, or the time when he fucked his daughter, i read every one of them, he still looks like a bufoon hedonist

>This has to be bait

don´t have an answer because you didn´t read him or he didn´t had a philosophy to begin with

>keep coping

mellow out anon

>>17195283
It's been a long time since I read it but IIRC he says at one point that being a bit ugly has been an advantage for him because women resent handsome men, they figure the guy is used to getting his way with women so their pride rebels against him.

>>17198873
You're still projecting, it's getting very tiring

>>17198882
This is pure autism.

>>17198806
In my mind, it is rather the person with a boring life who would get so enamored with such tales of muh pussy, such debauchery. The people in this thread protesting the veracity of his stories are precisely those that HAVE stories like these themselves, and thus are not impressed by how much yarn this guy manages to spin in his memoirs.
>dude you wouldn't BELIEVE how drunk I got last night
>totally ended up shagging the baron's daughter lmao
>haha i will tell you the rest of the story, maybe even the one about me fucking the queen of france if you buy me the next round!
>haha don't worry though i am actually a Renaissance Man(tm), a true philosopher at heart. some might say a nihilist, with a wicked sense of humor!
how anyone can't see that his memoirs are the copes of a man who lived the life of a drunkard and a scoundrel, forever ashamed of himself that he didn't live up to his true ideals of being a philosopher but instead wasted it all away on alcohol and brothels. these characters always have to exaggerate how wild and crazy their life is, to make up for how much they deeply regret spending their whole life a slave to their passions.

see: artie lange, joey diaz, every stand-up comic with a drug problem ever

>>17198902
>You're still projecting, it's getting very tiring

>>17198829
Do you see now why our ancestors were patriarchal and treated their women like property?
It was not a spook. The civilizations that did not do this literally disappeared.

>>17198652
>the Europe in which being an atheist and questioning the received moral teachings was, for any normal human being, a death sentence? In the Europe in which the Catholic Church still had a very real claim to temporal political power? In the Europe in which Protestants and Catholics slaughtered each other in the streets?
This Europe is two centuries before Casanova's lifetime, retard. He lived in the 18th century when the aristocracy especially was famously debauched.

>>17198926
The Catholic Church still held temporal power, and being an atheist was still a death sentence for any normal human being. I dunno what you mean by "famously debauched," but something tells me that the average reactionary would have very low tolerance for premarital and extramarital sex. Imagine de Maistre judging the aristocracy, and you'll get why what you're saying makes no sense.

>>17196673
>i didnt see any reason for her to end up screwing him but apparently he saw it coming and understood it.
For some reason I'm reminded of a story of Tucker Max where he explains how he fucked a girl by insinuating she was a slut, and somehow her agreeing to fuck him was a conclusion to her attempt to prove she wasn't one. Kinda mind-bending (and at the same time completely retarded), but apparently it's a matter of playing with confidence and a certain type of men understand that naturally.

>>17198848
Yeah, now that you said it, I DO think he lied a lot. But I still think there is some truth to it. And there's an interesting lesson to be learned about the female psychology.

>>17198652
>>17198954
>and being an atheist was still a death sentence for any normal human being
Got any examples of people executed for atheism in the 18th century?

>>17198954
Keep in mind that in France, during the same century, the Marquis de Sade was alive, wrote his books and committed his debauches, without being executed by any regime - monarchist, republican, or imperial. And he was the most radical atheist and immoralist imaginable. The only time he came close to being executed during pre-revolutionary France was after a false accusation of poisoning prostitutes, of which he was quickly acquitted. He was in much more danger during the revolution - for being an aristocrat with an exile son (another false accusation) who was too lenient in his position as revolutionary judge. And libertines were commonplace in high society life and literature. And materialist like Hobbes and sceptics like Hume were influential, if controversial.

>>17199020
>>17199045
You know, "death sentence" is used figuratively and not just literally. I don't know what the Marquis de Sade actually did and did not do, but there is a difference between a man who uses his political and financial power to satisfy his desires in an extremely debauched manner and a guy who writes in his memoirs that he and his buddies gangraped a girl and she liked it. If the difference is not apparent to you at first, then ruminate it on it for a time. It will become clear to you eventually.
>>17199016
You know, for a guy who insists on calling everyone else an incel, you sure do use a lot of incel terminology.

>>17198954
>completely ignorant person tries to lecture other posters
You're either twelve, a burger or a shrewish woman, those are the only possible explanations for this conduct.

>>17199077
He wrote his memoirs in extreme old age while protected by a German prince whose librarian he was working as because the guy liked him and his company. What the fuck was going to happen to him, mongus?

>>17199077
>You know, "death sentence" is used figuratively and not just literally.
nice way to cover your arse lmaoo.

>>17185468
>and I am a better person for reading it.
how are you a better person?

>>17199126
yeah how are you a better person beside learning how to seduce women?

>>17199077
>You know, for a guy who insists on calling everyone else an incel, you sure do use a lot of incel terminology.
I didn't call you an incel. I was just calling you out about the fact that women (people in general but women especially in this context) are due to say something and BEHAVE in a manner completelly opposite to what they said.

You're a pretty dumb fuck if you can't even fathom the idea that women (in general) FEEL the world in a diferent way, at least with regards to relationships.
But I bet you're an equality dogmatic.
I'm not OP, btw.

>>17199182
>yeah how are you a better person beside learning how to seduce women?

>>17198954
Jesus Christ. How does one's worldview get so twisted and plain incorrect? Those libertines were not in danger, even of mere social ostracism.
It would bar them from offices where purity and order is demanded, but they were not prone to apply for those positions anyway. Some would not deal with them, but there was more than enough other people to go around.
Are you some sort of Anglo? I can't imagine a native misreading French or Italian social norms this much.

Did he get any sexual deseases like herpes?

>>17198921
>The people in this thread protesting the veracity of his stories are precisely those that HAVE stories like these themselves, and thus are not impressed by how much yarn this guy manages to spin in his memoirs.
Ah yes, all of these mythical orgy having /lit/izens. Dude, nearly everyone in this thread is a virgin, including you.

>>17185468
I only want to read it for his experiences with loli poon.
>>17188320
>Yes he writes about that. There were two little girls that tried to outdo eachother by fucking him.
>He said something like if someone says they hate life, they must not have had a threesome with two young girls.
What pages? I want the excerpts of this

>>17199555
"these stories" as in outrageous life experiences not specifically related to sex, as in people who have good stoies to tell themselves aren't as charmed by other people's stories.

>>17199196
cope is strong with this one

>>17199834
more libertine than you

>>17199845
ok, don't care much

>>17188320
>>17199819
Well, my interest is piqued.

> You now realize all the promiscuous little girls Casanova meant were previously raped by a relative.

>>17200704
Or a priest or tutor

>>17200704
Source?

>>17200704
met*
>>17200948
Also this

>90% false 10% true
no way, its the other way around, 90% true, 10% false. if it were a make up story by some virgin the whole memoir would read like a terrible fan-fic, romance novel tier story and easily see through. there are enough little details that only someone with experience would know to write about. hell, he writes about the girls personality for the most part, if you actually read the book. he doesn't sit there and go "oh yea she had big boobs and looked like a supermodel and i was like hey babe and she sucked my dick. shit was cash.". he was genuienly in love with the personalities, mannerisms and behaviors of the women he courted.

>>17199481
Oh yea he got some shitty diseases a few times. he talks about the shitty doctors in that time and how they gave mercury to people and it killed them sometimes.

is there like a shortened version of his memoirs?

>>17201117
There are any number of abridgments, but most have the same trait of focusing on specific stuff, so just the adventures, magic quacksalving and escape from the leads, or just the love affairs, and they end up giving a skewed image.

>>17185468
I watched a ballet based on him, it was interesting. I saw the main dancer's dick (the guy who was playing Casanova) for a second and winked at him but he didn't see me

>>17200704
Nah, little girls can be fairly promiscuous even today. I have accessed pedo forums before out of curiosity and apparently, many of those child porn videos are girls recording themselves. Pedos don't even need to record anything anymore, the cp comes to them.

>>17201617
Fair enough. There are interesting bits here and there that he only mentions briefly but are hidden in the rest of his Euro-trip. The first arc was funny too. He became the accomplice to this old ladies weird mysticism by pretending to know how to divine Cabbalistic secrets. She funded his young adulthood so that he was rich while traveling. He had to fuck the old lady though at one point to keep the thing going and then she died not long after.

Reading old voluminous memoirs is based. I'm thinking of reading all of Pepys' diary soon.

>>17201616
This is when you know it’s time for war.

>>17201554
>I saw the main dancer's dick (the guy who was playing Casanova) for a second and winked at him but he didn't see me

>>17188583
50 was old then?

>>17188563
This is a very interesting use of moral relativism I suppose. But I feel like you could say something similar about ritual cannibalism

Any motherfucker that says Casanova was trash is lying to themselves. If you had the opportunity to do what he did and get away with it, you'd drop what the fuck you're engaged with in your life and go for it.

>>17185586
>He had a raw view of human nature that contemporary society does not witness, talk about, or all together ignores and avoids.

Can you unpack that?

You read all those pages and can't give a detailed reply in four sentences?

>>17188259
had a taste for transvestites too

>>17201888
Nah I'm not into fucking prepubescent girls and living a sponsored life of dependency. Also I don't need to experience that much sex to validate my self/existence. But traveling around is neat though.

>>17198662
>>17198691
That's why having a good edition is important, I've read one with many historical notes that would often contradict Casanova's claims like his meeting with Voltaire where he makes it looks like the guy admired him and he shutted him off on the subject of italian theater or something, I think the editor said his trip was actually short and Voltaire was sick (maybe because of casanova)

>>17201616
>I have accessed pedo forums before out of curiosity

>>17201955
Well basically because it was the 1700s there wasnt the modern zeitgeist to stifle him from telling his interactions like they were. He unabashedly talked about sex, other cultures, women, men , religion, philosophy. Basically all the shit people are scared to talk about today because of political correctness. At it was all just innocently. He would be surprised to see that he was so offensive to people today.

Is that unpacked enough for you? I didnt start the thread to get people to read the book or shill it honestly. If you want to know, I doubt I am doing him any justice so you'll have to read the goddamn thousands of pages like I did.

>>17202064
>Voltaire was sick (maybe because of casanova)
https://youtu.be/QT13kk8HDDo

>>17202561
And to add I'm not saying that because he said things that are against the grain that I am better, but because he unknowingly tells us about life from that period by what he talks about and in what way. It was all very natural like. Kind of like watching what a child does to learn about thought processes.

>an ugly person living life like a porno movie before contraception
You have to be really fucking stupid to believe this.

With just a slight bit of life experience you would also know it is very common for men to make up the most ridiculous stories when it comes to their sex life

>>17202628
>caring about (((reality)))
ngmi

why is it so triggering and hard to believe that some guy wrote a book about all the sex he had?

>>17202628
He had a lot of money most of his life and spent it freely on the women when everyone around them was dirt poor.

>>17191309
>>17191624
does anybody know anything about the italian edition that's on libgen (newton compton)? it looks to short to be unabridged (2*1000 pages), but is it from the uncensored source? it would be a fun way to practice my italian

>>17202688
Because he was a degenerate whose work, fictitious or not, corrupts the minds of the morbidly curious with sick fantasies and frustrated desires, much like Marquis de Sade’s.
To get angry at it is a sign of health and good sense.

>>17202727
Weren't they debauched aristocrats? What does it help someone who is poor to carry illegitimate children?

>>17202773
sperging out is never healthy

>>17202688
Why is it so triggering and hard to believe that random memoirs written by drunken gamblers that read like any porno movie are spurious?

>>17202811
youre just a hater mate

>>17201616
Can confirm. God bless Periscope and Tiktok.

>>17202020
>Nah I'm not into fucking prepubescent girls
Don't knock it until you have tried it

>>17202784
Thats a question for an evolutionary psychologist.

>>17203025
How can anyone be sexually attracted to that? She's a little girl. Please rope before you potentially hurt a child

>>17203237
>How can anyone be sexually attracted to that? She's a little girl.
Are you blind?

>>17203319
>are you blind?
Are you? That's a child

>>17203352
A sexy child.

>>17188336
if i remember correctly he had been with the girls mother years prior and upon returning thought ''i'm pretty sure this girls my daughter but she's hot''.

>>17198691
oooooooh me and my FIANCE are getting MARRIED

>>17185468
>sneed

>>17185468
>test

>>17198792
You're right, it does

>>17188839
>>17191089
I highly recommend Cellini's Autobiography. He was one of the greatest jewelers/sculptors of the Renaissance, and he had a really wild life. Took part in the Defense of Rome in 1527, banged boys, girls and women, was thrown in the Papal Dungeon for a crime he didn't commit, and made fantastic art through it all. Pic related is his most famous work

>>17204482
He also did work for multiple Popes and the French King

Guys, I just want to say, no matter what you think I'm glad we could talk about this. This has been the most successful thread I've ever made on this site in the 10+ years I've been here lol. Honestly thought it was going to die after 5 replies.

>>17205166
Fuck, we trained you to make threads about "controversial" degenerates like Casanova, Pavlovian conditioning style.

>>17202561
>He speaks in an unbiased blunt way regarding sex, other cultures, women, men , religion, philosophy.

I learned nothing from the above. Anybody can share pol incorrect opinions. I care about useful specifics, tell me something specific, a quote that you hold onto everyday, a quote that forces you into a specific line of thinking.

Here I'll share from a book I read that changed how I looked at things.

"Isn’t every accomplishment of genius in
this world the result of the one genius going against the inertia of the masses?"

>>17205243
I dont browse /pol/ and I don't remember quotes like that. I don't know what to tell you. I said it made me a better person, it left an impression on me. I look at people more thoughtfully and humanely. I also have a much better understanding of life in the 1700s. Sounds like it sucked for most people and they had problems we can hardly understand today.
And I don't take back what I said, but I guess you don't understand what I'm getting at. It's about looking at life fresh from preoconceived notions. Maybe he didn't say anything specifically but reading him talking so commonly about such a far removed culture made me realize what we take for granted and the assumptions people have.
Actually there was something he said that I thought was nice, when he said he genuinely tries to be good to everyone he meets. I figured he tried to trick people but he always behaved with courtesy and manners. I'm kind of distrustful towards people but I like the idea of just genuinely being pleasant no matter what.
Damn, we got a damn english teacher over here making me write an essay ffs.

>>17195873
Same.

>>17205315
I love you for sharing, and I love you enough to share something useful to you.

I would've used /pol/ if I was referring to the board.

pol = politically

>I don't remember quotes like that
You don't put in effort to remember an author's words that are worth remembering? Is that not the art of reading? Did you open a historical - non fiction book for entertainment? If you don't take notes or mark down re-readable pages then your reading methods result in hazy memories, because your replies are all hazy and vague like an old memory, do you agree?

>I guess you don't understand what I'm getting at.
My point is you read all those pages and came out remembering none of the author's words, sure you can simplify the author's idea and convert that into changing your mind but to me it looks like you skimmed most parts or read a synopsis. I feel like you barely killed one bird with one stone.

Sure, thanks for the tips. This was a really long book and really took me a year to read so I didn't lock in specifics. I wish I could do the book justice by giving captivating recollections.

>>17185468
I've read the first 3 books of his memoirs (there are 12 books). I have to admit it is pretty wild ride at some points and tolerably dull at other times. Fascinating man and story.

I really want to get a translation of the new French version, which is apparently the only complete unedited edition. Shame I can't speak french.

>>17191624
The Brockhaus-Plon version isn't the most complete version, although it is the most complete one which is translated into English (by Willard R Trask). The new Pleiade edition is the complete uneditied one, but it is French. There is a version of the Pleiade edition by Robert Laffont, which has a lot of notes and other interesting information. That is basically the one you want to read, if you can read French.

>>17201616
This, no need to actually rape anyone

>>17198652
Imagine being this stupid

>>17194725
He was like 6'3" in 1700 something.

>>17198732
Not him, but you haven't even read anything other than a Wiki article with minimum details and gotten a gist of a very modern reputation from movies (which aren't even about his life, but basically womanizers in general), and you act like you know everything written in that book. I read the first 200 or so pages. While there is a lot of romance, it goes on in more detail about his views, his life, boring things like being in the company of Signor X, Y and Z, speaking from the pulpit as a sermonist, life in Venice and other place, etc. You're an utter retard and just arguing for the sake of arguing because you'd rather chop your dick off than admit you're wrong. You're a cowardly type and I'd threaten you with physical violence in person to watch you shit yourself.

>>17198921
Almost all of history is tall tales for those with bottom feeder perspectives.

>>17201616
>>17201707
>>17206380
In fact I was sexually assaulted by a 10 year old girl.
Don't care about age at all but she was too much of a loli, I need at least semi-puberty.

>>17199182
Cause I fucked your bitch, you fat motherfucker.
AHEM.
First off, fuck your bitch and the click you claim
Westside when we ride come equipped with game
You claim to be a player but I fucked your wife
We bust on Bad Boy niggaz fucked for life

>>17201980
Dropped.

>>17207318
>You're an utter retard and just arguing for the sake of arguing because you'd rather chop your dick off than admit you're wrong. You're a cowardly type and I'd threaten you with physical violence in person to watch you shit yourself.

u mad

>>17207548
It's the "I'm wrong, but I'll pretend I'm not flustered by posting le funny 4channel epig meme foto xD" episode.

>>17207571
>It's the "I'm wrong, but I'll pretend I'm not flustered by posting le funny 4channel epig meme foto xD" episode.

>>17207588
>What broke him down was it...
>Being wrong. When I hit him about the pitiful state of his faggotry he was crying in there, making women gestures, like, ughughughgughUGH... heh, I can't...
>So you're saying Anon was crying?
>Yes, yes.
>When did you have him hurt?
>From the moment I hit "Post" on.

>>17207610
>What broke him down was it...
>Being wrong. When I hit him about the pitiful state of his faggotry he was crying in there, making women gestures, like, ughughughgughUGH... heh, I can't...
>So you're saying Anon was crying?
>Yes, yes.
>When did you have him hurt?
>From the moment I hit "Post" on.

>>17207641
Look at the state of you, you cowardly dog. Reply to my post or your nut sack will shrivel up and fall down tonight.

>>17207650

>>17207652
I own you, you're my boy. Come. Lay down your clothes. It is not too late for lube.

>>17207666

>>17207689
Come, COME. There is no gay, unless our scrotums touch.

is htere like something that just collect all the interesting parts? aint gonna read 12 books

just got this on my kindle. i know a bit about him from the art of seduction. desu anyone whos not really open to reading such a big book start with the art of seduction