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I see many similarities, but not really because he didn't claim the Stoics. He started seemingly from scratch and arrived at similar conclusions on his own.

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>>17186547
No, that would be too reductive and ignores Spinoza’s true greatest influences in favour of some parallels in thought.
>>17186966
This

>>17186547
a neo-coper?

>>17186547
No because you just made the word up and it doesn't mean anything

>>17187227
Lmao

>>17186966
>but not really because he didn't claim the Stoics
lmao, what a retard

> PROP. XVIII. No one can hate God.

> Proof.—The idea of God which is in us is adequate and perfect (II. xlvi. xlvii.); wherefore, in so far as we contemplate God, we are active (III. iii.); consequently (III. lix.) there can be no pain accompanied by the idea of God, in other words (Def. of the Emotions, vii.), no one can hate God. Q.E.D.

He's a retard

> PROP. XLII. Blessedness is not the reward of virtue, but virtue itself; neither do we rejoice therein, because we control our lusts, but, contrariwise, because we rejoice therein, we are able to control our lusts.

> Proof.—Blessedness consists in love towards God (V. xxxvi and note), which love springs from the third kind of knowledge (V. xxxii. Coroll.); therefore this love (III. iii. lix.) must be referred to the mind, in so far as the latter is active; therefore (IV. Def. viii.) it is virtue itself. This was our first point. Again, in proportion as the mind rejoices more in this divine love or blessedness, so does it the more understand (V. xxxii.); that is (V. iii. Coroll.), so much the more power has it over the emotions, and (V. xxxviii.) so much the less is it subject to those emotions which are evil; therefore, in proportion as the mind rejoices in this divine love or blessedness, so has it the power of controlling lusts. And, since human power in controlling the emotions consists solely in the understanding, it follows that no one rejoices in blessedness, because he has controlled his lusts, but, contrariwise, his power of controlling his lusts arises from this blessedness itself. Q.E.D.

Autism

What's the best secondary resources for Spinoza? This guy is hard as fuck to read

>>17187418
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>>17187432
Unironically Deleuze, he wrote both a monograph and a kind of glossary of Spinoza.

Is it necessary to call someone "neo-stoic" and not just "stoic"? I don't get why people only conceive of stoicism as some ancient philosophy, yeah it was made back then but it's a good philosophy to have even today.

What is Spinoza's biggest contribution to philosophy?

>>17188699
>17188699
He was very influential on future writers, such as:
>Goethe, who wrote an essay entitled "A Study Based on Spinoza," and references him numerous times throughout his works of science and philosophy
>Hegel, who said "The fact is that Spinoza is made a testing-point in modern philosophy, so that it may really be said: You are either a Spinozist or not a philosopher at all."
>Nietzsche, who wrote of Spinoza so many times it would be impossible to document them all, but here's a letter Nietzsche wrote to a friend about Spinoza: “I am utterly amazed, utterly enchanted! I have a precursor, and what a precursor! I hardly knew Spinoza: that I should have turned to him just now, was inspired by “instinct.” Not only is his overtendency like mine—namely to make all knowledge the most powerful affect—but in five main points of his doctrine I recognize myself; this most unusual and loneliest thinker is closest to me precisely in these matters: he denies the freedom of the will, teleology, the moral world-order, the unegoistic, and evil. Even though the divergencies are admittedly tremendous, they are due more to the difference in time, culture, and science. In summa: my lonesomeness, which, as on very high mountains, often made it hard for me to breathe and make my blood rush out, is now at least a twosomeness. Strange! Incidentally, I am not at all as well as I had hoped. Exceptional weather here too! Eternal change of atmospheric conditions!—that will yet drive me out of Europe! I must have clear skies for months, else I get nowhere. Already six severe attacks of two or three days each!! — With affectionate love, Your friend”

>>17187395
Refute his argument or go cry somewhere else.

>>17187447
nta and I love Spinoza (pbuh) but the ethics is by far the most autistic book I have ever read, it’s extraordinarily wonderful but still autistic.
>>17187395
You’d understand how true that section is if you weren’t retarded

>>17189222
It's kind of hard to grasp the enormity of his achievements. Even if you take issue with his metaphysics, the intelligence and discipline required to write The Ethics boggles the mind. He is perhaps only outmatched by Kant in pure unadulterated autism.

>>17186547
I made that image once and I'm glad its being used for all Spinoza posts lmao