/lit/ - Literature

I wonder who could be behind this (((post)))

>>17184502
The OT was a bunch of nonsense too but at least it doesn't have 2 billion adherents who swear it's legit. If you actually believe in christianity after reading the new testament you are one stupid mother fucker

>>17184518
I don't, I'm not sure where you got that from. But the Old Testament is at least as retarded as the new -- remember the 500 pages of nonsensical """prophecy"""?

>>17184532
I would compare the Tanahk-NT to Homer-Virgil

>>17184535
ok. That doesn't change that the OT is just as nonsensical, if not more, than the NT.

Is this the Anon who complained about "duhh there is no mountain from which all kingdoms of Earth can be seen...! Xtianity is bull!!" on /his/ recently?

>>17184518
>The OT was a bunch of nonsense
The OT is thousands of years worth of mythological stew, compiled and interpreted by/for people who lived in a world that was extremely unforgiving. What were you even looking for when you picked it up? Did you just want to make zingers about geological records or how nobody could survive getting swallowed by a fish?

>>17184602
based

>>17184572
>It was all going fine until I got the new testament
>OT is just as nonsensical, if not more
Wait so what was going fine?

>>17184502
This. I have already seen countless posts conveying the same idea with roughly the same vocabulary. This is a shilling campaign.

>>17184492
shoo shoo jew

itt retards who were filtered by the Bible

>DURRRR GOD DID A SUPERNATURAL THING THIS IS ABSURD!!!!!!!!

>>17184634
learn to identify posters, newfriend.
>>17184502 me
>>17184518 OP
>>17184532 me
>>17184535 OP
>>17184572 me
>>17184634 you completely misunderstanding the conversation

Remember, boycott, divest, sanction.

https://blacknonbelievers.com/jesus-failed-prophecy-about-his-return/

>>17184854 #
https://wipfandstock.com/9781532616495/where-is-the-promise-of-his-coming/

Not a failed prophecy, atheist losers btfo

>>17185003
>here's a book you have to buy, ship, and read all the way through to have a refutation of your argument.
i'm not the guy you replied too, but you're no better than kiddie-marxists who just respond with "read theory bro xd"
Offer an argument we can discuss or btfo.

>>17184492
>the best part is the worst part
Loving the contrarianism family.

>>17185068
This is lit isn't it? You can buy the ebook for $10 if you want instant access to the text retard.

Regardless I don't care to discuss anything with bad-faith retards. I just like pointing out they're morons who know nothing.

>>17185279
>i don't care to discuss anything. I'm just come on this board to add nothing to a discussion and act like I can defend my faith although I have only ever been spoonfed what to say and believe by my pastor and youtubers.

>>17185003
>>17185279
>the proof of the Gospels not being obvious nonsense can only be found in this highly relevant work of theological scholarship that nobody cares about enough to scan and upload it somewhere, wrapped in tumblr-tier artwork
>now pay the $10 for the truth about God™, goy!

>>17185314
I was an atheist for many years retard. You continue to reveal that you're another dumb bad-faith atheist. This is why it makes no sense to discuss anything substantive with you.

Also, why don't you bitch and moan at the clown who provided the link to the shitty blog post with no accompanying argument or commentary? Or was that you and it's ok to do that when the link goes to something defending your gay beliefs?

I've linked the book so people who want a good presentation of the other side can have it. This is lit, as I said, not a philosophy of religion forum. I'm not here to throw pearls before retard swine.

>>17185423
>"goy"
>is a defense of Christianity

>muh cover art

Ok retard

>>17185444
>>"goy"
>>is a defense of Christianity
Yes.

>>17185433
I was raised Christian
I learned Latin and Greek because I was Christian
I read Matthew 16:28 in the Greek and Latin.
It seems pretty clear that this is a false prophecy from the language alone. There is no argument here other than mental gymnastics.
>why don't you bitch and moan at the clown who provided the link to the shitty blog post with no accompanying argument or commentary
because the article is actually accessible and I can read it. Use your two braincells add look at my original complaint >>17185068

>>17185457
>idiot not understanding Christ is more hated by the you knows than any other figure in history

Why didn't I try to argue with the "ideas" of this vacuous retard?

>>17185500
Cope tranny.

>>17185528
LMAO. get btfoed, cuck.
Maybe if you spent your time edifying your soul with education, you would've been able to revert me, but it seems you don't believe in your religion enough to do that

>>17185500
>"ship"
>mentioned ebook in my reply

Yeah I obviously saw and understood your stupid original complaint.

Your tiny brain forgot that you went on to bitch about me not adding to the discussion. My providing a relevant resource is as much a contribution as someone linking to a shitty blog post (actually more so since what I linked wasn't a shitty blog post but a book, you know one of the things this board is all about).

I don't care about your probably imaginary ability to read Latin (completely irrelevant to the original NT text) or Greek. Would the mere ability to understand written English make someone an authoritative interpreter of Shakespeare you drooling fuckwit? You whine about my lack of argument and yet your "argument" for your view is "me know languages, me position obvious to me, other position mental gymnastics because me say so." Fuck off retard.

>>17185582
look who's coping now
see >>17185528

I hope you enjoyed the books of Samuel because Samuel is by far the best and most interesting and most well written part of the bible

I love all the name calling and bickering in these Christian threads
My favorite prophecy is the one where the Messiah is going to be called "Immanuel" because Immanuel Kant is my savior personally

>>17184668
>christcuck larpers infest lit and his
>.........
>someone reads the bible and pushes back against the bullshit
>SHILL CAMPAIGN

>>17185500
This. If you are a Christian past the 1st century you are deluding yourself

>>17185612
OP here. Yeah 1 and 2 Samuel, along with Judges, make up by far my favorite section of the Bible. It was like reading Homer.

>>17185603
nice attempt to slink out of a total btfo

>>17185671
Judges has a lot of cool stories, but I think the judges themselves dont have much character except for Samson. And its all a collection of short stories.
Samuel though is a long, developed novella with these complex relationships with all these characters who change. Look at young David vs old David and how he changes. Absalom's rebellion is so interesting and the way Ahithophel turns traitor against David I could go on and on. IIt's better than game of thrones. And the contrast between the pro monarchy poassages and anti monarchy passges are so interesting and challenging. Man I love the books of Samuel
The only part of the books that isnt Shakespeare tier is the story of the ark getting captured in the intro. But I understand that we need that story to show Israel's worst defeat and the necessity to go from the judges to one solidified king.
tldr i like judges and the rest of the bible but i think samuel is on a whole other level of literary achievement

>>17185748
The ark getting captured was hilarious. I love the image of God pushing over the Baal idol over and over when the Philistines go to sleep

>absolutely satanic devil worshippers fear Jesus Christ and make threads to mock him but only expose themselves as evil little sparge
It's getting old lol

>>17185796
begone larper

>>17186055
Literally a woman
>U LARPER I READ UR MIND WAAAAA MOMMY
oof

>>17186244
Not very Christlike of you

>>17184492
The way the Old Testament is read by the New Testament authors is quite funny. Take half a sentence out of context and totally re-interpret it to fit something unrelated, and voila! You have a fulfilled prophecy.

>>17185748
Same, Samuel is my favourite, the closest the Bible gets to historical epic.

>>17185755
It was an idol of Dagon, who is incidentally Baal's father in Ugaritic mythology.

>>17186325
My mistake

>>17186260
https://www.moodypublishers.com/the-moody-handbook-of-messianic-prophecy/

you btfod

>>17186420
>pay 30 dollars to have someone tell you what you're reading and what to think

>>17186427
>scholarship on books shouldn't and doesn't need to exist

Uhhhhhhh

>>17186465
You can delete your post from 4chan but not from the eyes of God, Christcuck. Prepare to burn

>>17186483
kek seethe you poverty faggot

>>17186998

Only the addition of the holy ghost's guidance will show you the real-world applications of what scripture is actually saying, both literally and otherwise.

1 Corinthians 2:14
King James Version
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

It's like trying to explain the mechanics of a car manual to someone who has never even seen a physical car before irl. This stuff is very real and has very physical manifestations in everyday life unbeknownst to most. In fact, most don't even WANT to know because they are too stuck in the world and it's limitations of knowledge to see otherwise.

>>17184492
how do you distinguish between fake magic and true magic?

>>17184518
>If you actually believe in christianity after reading the new testament you are one stupid mother fucker
Thousands of years of church scholars confirmed stupid motherfuckers, thank Godn't this online midwit rescued us from them

>>17186260
>n-no it's those stalwart in the faith who are taking things out of context, not me, a disinterested, semi-literate layman

>>17188845
You people are mental

>it's another anon trying to say Matthew 16:27-28 is a false prophecy knowing there has already been numerous commentaries on the very subject. He thinks his interpretation is correct because he knows muh latin and muh greek. His interpretation is more correct than the Church Fathers who were fluent in said languages.