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What's the difference between Renaissance and Baroque literature?

>> No.17167625

>>17167616
I don't read anything written before 2012 because it's intrinsically white and racist.

>> No.17167626

>>17167616
Baroque is more of an aesthetic.

>> No.17167632

>>17167616
The level of pseud you want to achieve

>> No.17167638

>>17167616
Baroque is a complete meme term especially when it comes to literature, at best it can be used to signify the pronounced religious aspects of post-Renaissance literature during the reformation and wars of Religion (compare Ariosto, Boccaccio, Petrarch Vs. Tasso, Milton, du Bartas)

>> No.17167667

Renaissance is like being a pretty fairy picking flowers and the Baroque is like dropping acid and speed while driving around in lawnmower over a garden.

>> No.17167690

Pessimism
>The Renaissance did not achieve its purpose of imposing harmony and perfection in the world, as the humanists claimed, nor had it made man happier; wars and social inequalities were still present; pain and calamities were common throughout Europe. An increasingly accentuated intellectual pessimism is installed, together with the carefree character of which the comedies of that time and the hoaxes on which the picaresque novels are based bear witness.
Feeling of vertigo,
>for the immensity of the cosmos, without limit and without center. Man is no longer the center of the universe and therefore the ideology leads to Hominem te esse cogita ("think you are human"), the claim against human pride. Thus, there is a loss of confidence in Renaissance ideals and in faith in the unlimited capacities of the human being.
Disappointment
>As Renaissance ideals failed and, in the case of Spain, political power was fading, disappointment continues and appears in literature, which in many cases recalls that of two centuries earlier, with the Dance of Death or the Coplas to the death of his father of Manrique. Quevedo says that life is made up of "deceased successions": in them the newborns are converted, from the diapers to the shroud with which the lifeless bodies are covered. It is understood as an awareness of the human condition that is uncertain and immutable. In conclusion, nothing matters, you just have to achieve eternal salvation.
Preoccupation with the passage of time,
>(Tempus fugit) because it quickly leads to death and oblivion (Ubi sunt?).
Return to Neoplatonism
>the imperfection of the human senses and the deception of empirical reality make knowledge impossible, since there is no access to the essence of things. Knowledge is a labyrinthine paradox, since language is deceiving, but at the same time it is the only way of knowledge.

>> No.17167695

>>17167690
Spanish barroque, source: es.wikipedia.org

>> No.17167707
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>>17167690
Thank you, anon. This was helpful.

>> No.17167717

>>17167616
Gongora is baroque, Heptameron is Renaissance. The latter is more classicizing, the first more exuberant, disproportionate, even grotesque: from the word grotto, and/or resembling the irregular, rugose, enveloping walls of a cave and reputedly bizarre denizens there in

>> No.17167719

>>17167707
>>17167690
I disagree, the Spanish baroque is a phenomenon mostly connected with the degeneration of the Spanish empire, but a Pan-european significance in the term must be found in religious development

>> No.17167760

Precedents and Humanism
>see: The dolce stil novo, Dante Alighieri and the Divine Comedy, Francesco Petrarca and Il Canzoniere, Boccaccio and the Decameron.

16th century, full Renaissance
>Dante, Petrarca and Boccaccio gave rise to a splendor of Renaissance lyric in Italy in the 16th century. The leading figure of Renaissance poetic taste is Pietro Bembo, who wrote Petrarchist songs and sonnets, but above all, he became the arbiter of Italian literature of his time.
>It can be said that the most outstanding figure in versified literature of his time in Italian was Ludovico Ariosto, author of Orlando furioso, an extensive narrative poem of a fantastic genre and epic roots that continued the Orlando in love with Matteo Maria Boiardo and was inspired by the Matter of medieval France and Matter of Brittany. The subject of this work is the madness of Orlando (a character who with the French name Roland and the Spanish name Roldán) was one of the mythical pairs of the Carolingian court and starred in the Song of Roldán 'who, in love with the beautifulThe beautiful Angelica has fallen in love with Medoro, a Muslim warrior whom she had healed, and seized by a fit of jealousy, Orlando razes mountains and destroys everything in his path. To regain sanity, his friend Astolfo, mounted on a hippogriff, travels to the moon where he finds, inside a bottle, the elixir of Orlando's reason who, after drinking from it, regains his senses. Throughout the narrative, presided over by a very fanciful tone, brief stories are interspersed. The Orlando furioso was the subject of numerous translations, continuations and imitations, and was the most important model for the Renaissance cult epic.
>Torquato Tasso, who wrote in the second half of the 16th century, is the author of The Liberated Jerusalem, which recounts the taking of Jerusalem by Godfrey de Bouillon in the First Crusade.
>In prose they dictate the norm of the new spirit The Courtier of Baltasar de Castiglione, which raises the model of the Renaissance man, and The Prince of Nicholas Machiavelli, which is a treatise on political theory.

>> No.17167786

>>17167719
this is why I said >>17167695, northern Europe was all revolvign around the religious conflicts but the most influential power in literature of the Barroque was Spain, not in music or other fields

>> No.17167878

>>17167625
>I don't read anything written before 2012 because it's intrinsically white and racist.
God, I hope you are joking.