/lit/ - Literature

Excuse me, I meant sealed, not sealed.

What difference does it make to you here and now?

Another universe starts. This happens again and again, forever.

>>17103123
>What happens afterwards?

All meaning ceases once you're dead. Which is why your thread is pointless.

The future of the universe was determined when the Big Bang happened (or even before that if that happens to be the case).

>>17103123
Then everything will be reabsorbed into the One until the start of the next cosmic cycle. As with all things, Plato foresaw this.

>>17103127
dealed

>>17103123
Ahh yes, to be twelve again.

>>17103127
thanks for clearing that up

>>17103123
How could anyone know what happens next?

Oh fuck dude!!!

>>17103123
There is no balance in nature, everything is in a constant state of transition (including me, btw, not sure if that matters)
Theres a lot of theories about "deaths of the universe" like heat death, cold death, I think theres an iron one, ultimately something else will happen, maybe the whole thing will repeat itself somehow maybe after near infinite dormancy. No way to know, but you can be sure that something will always happen next.
https://youtu.be/ze9-ARjL-ZA

>>17103150
Implying meaning exists? Embarrassing

Not quite on the same scale but since nobody else has recommended anything I might as well mention it. The Time Machine by HG Wells. He doesn't travel beyond the death of the universe, but he does deal with the future of humanity and what the world will be like long after it is gone.

>>17103123
Didn't your dad tell you about this back when you were six? This is like worrying about the philosophical implications of how soil forms.
>>17103436
>state of transition (including me, btw)
Trans person detected. Why don't you go soak your head, nancy boy!

>>17103123
2 options: either you aren't alive right now, or you are and therefore nothing ever really ends and you'll just start experiencing something else after death. What you're describing is the physical transition between objects in the universe, but not what it actually means for us. You cut a tree down, all the bugs and birds and spiders that lived in the tree die. You plant a new tree and all the animals come back. Besides, if the black nothingness exists, then it exists in the universe as a something, and while that happens we can all sleep for a while until we come back.

>>17103123
our souls go on to live forever.

the last question or something like that by azimov

What do you care?

>>17103587
How do you do this? I feel like I'm past the point of redemption and the hope of being saved by Jesus is just a cruel joke the universe is playing on me.

>>17103627
you knock.
you ask.

>>17103123
Heat death is maximum entropy. Energy differences are what drive physical processes. Hot bodies cool by radiating thermal energy which heats up the environment around them - this type of balancing is the general trend of the universe. When everything is equal, everywhere in the universe will be at it's lowest energy point.

Vacuum flunctuations will still happen. I'm wise enough to know I'm not wise enough to explain what those are to you, but you should look it up. Some of the implications seem interesting.

>>17103123
Whatever will happen, that is the way of things.

>>17103123
Now they're saying black holes are tunnels into other universes. Everything keeps flowing, even if it drowns out in this universe, energy cannot be created or destroyed. It is eternal, the worst that could happen is it gets spread out in a way that is uninteresting.

>>17103145
Cope

>>17103627
Jesus prayer

>>17103145
the most horrible idea in the universe

>>17103123
All wrong. We can and must ascend TO THE STARS

>>17103123
We don't know what a body can do OP

>>17103123
Today a friend sent me a gore video, it wasn't because he wanted to shock me, he wanted to talk about insecurity, I thought I was pretty hardened but the video was something else, to dudes were yelling at each other and at a certain point one of them pulled out a fucking knife and stab the other guy in the throat like 4 times, the other guy just looked down at his blood being spilled from his neck, he walked back and fell off to the floor, and I don't know fellas
Are we meatbags? Are we human beings expendable?
What is some literature to help me find peace if we are just bodies waiting to die, I don't know how to explain myself since i'm a brainlet but these videos depress me since it makes me remember we are all just that, bodies, meatbags, do we have souls lads?

>>17104047
Sorry for spelling like a retard, I'm on the phone and i type very bad

>>17104047
Proust

>>17104047
Perhaps this is a weird recommendation but maybe try 1812 by Zamoyski. The entire Russian campaign is full of pathetic and meaningless death, to the point where even as a reader totally divorced from anyone involved you can't help but begin to accept it as a normal part of human life. War journals in general also convey this feeling, it's hard to maintain a modern heightened view of life while reading about people dying to the left and to the right of you. All of this doesn't answer any questions, it just makes it easier to accept how life can be.

>>17103123
My thinking is that we only perceive certain dimensions, and in a way we all die into nothingness, but in other dimensions is just some contrast to a bigger picture. Like when an image change in an oled screen. One pixel turns completely dark. But it gives you a certain Image.

>>17103123
Am I the only one that finds the idea of that kinda nice?
everything will eventually end, and that will lead to a new beginning. I dont see any bleakness in that.

>>17103123
>And even black holes will eventually vanish.
Why? Black holes are the universe’s vacuum cleaners. They’ll suck everything up including other black holes. Leave one great big black hole about to swallow one more giant cluster of dark matter and burst like Mister Creosote... a big bang, if you will.

>>17103998
"Cope" that's consistent with modern understandings of physics.

>>17103436
Oh lovely lady something in your countenance is quite uncanny
Dare I say, you lack in estrogen?
Oh you scoundrel, you fiend, you are a tranny!
Why deny your roots and that masculine?

You blind yourself with stockings and skirts,
To have a pecker in your knickers is what truly hurts

>>17103123
This is your brain on empiricism.

>>17103169

>>17103593
This is the correct answer. Go read it right now OP

>>17103123
>The Sun will engulf the solar system and everyone will die.
Our species will be extinct for millions of years before that happens.

>What happens afterwards? Has any author sealed with this? /sci/ shooed me here.
All of this is based on the faith that severely limited models, none of which really have access to solid and varied empirical data, can somehow not only predict the absolute future but define it, reduce all to it. What I'm trying to say is even if it's true it's meaningless and not what constitutes your life or any other life that was or will be. It's not even what constitutes the universe. It is a silly, melodramatic pseudo-nihilism.

>>17103123
Penrose

>>17103123
Proton decay until there is literally nothing left for eternity.

>>17103627
That's your pride speaking. Your sins aren't so bad that God can't forgive you. He's forgiven worse sins. Get over it.

>>17103145
>>17104691
can you explain to me the flux or tell me where to read about it

>>17103123
The Last Question by Isaac Asimov

>>17103123
just read some scientific fanfiction

>>17104019
Why?

>>17103145
Based literal Nietzschean

>>17103569
>2 options: either you aren't alive right now, or you are and therefore nothing ever really ends

this is the ideology of the archetypal barbarian. It is the thought process of stationary bandit, the warlord, whose perversion is made law through force. The other anons ITT should avoid thinking like this.

>>17105385
You sound like a pussy with no force

Read the Epic of Gilgamesh.

You die. Then infinite time passes in an instant, until the world inevitably starts again, and you are born again. Repeat forever.

>>17103123
>You'll die.
Fucking finally.

>>17103587
Pure cope

>>17103127

>>17104047
Try to be a good person without becoming a pushover, that's all you can do. Spread as much good as you can instead of becoming as evil as the guy who stabs people in the neck. That's all you can do. Whether there is an immortal soul or not, if you can treat people with respect maybe we will become something more than meatbags.

>>17103145
Based I believe this too
Also in reincarnation, on other planets and in different worlds. That's why we can create art, because we remember those different strange worlds.

Life as we know it is s cosmic joke that you’re either in on or not. Death as we know it could very well be a ticket to transcend this dimension. How silly giving a fuck about the heat death of that little 3D universe would seem from that perch.

>>17103145
>the universe will eventually return to the exact circumstance under which it was created
>we're all just going to have to do it over again
Please no

>>17103123
Go back to r.eddit

>>17103123
This is what happens when you're a deracinated yank with no culture.

>>17103123
>wow, le universe is my religion
Go back

>>17104557
They don't last forever dumbass tranny

>>17105383
Absolute basic bitch take. The exhaustion and replication of all possibilities in actuality is one of the more commoner ancient takes. It is attributed in a somewhat indirect form to Pythaogoras. Plato pays lip service to it. Almost all the Atomists make some mention of it e.g. Democritus, Epicurus, Lucretius. Retards who have not read any other philosophy read Neetchee and attribute everything he says to him.

>>17103123
John Dies at the End

>>17103123
I am confident that I will die but everything else you wrote is speculation.

ITT: Higher purpose niggers.
t. Ant hill consumption chad

>>17103123
The Chinese are currently laughing at America's cultural nihilism

>>17103587
I can't really grasp the concept of forever. I mean, it's not one haundred, thousand, or even a billion years, it' all of them multiplied for infinity. If there's an afterlife, will we spend there an infinite amount of time? Or there will be at some point some kind of rebirth? What does the bible say about this?

>>17106812
Nobody knows. Not even Jesus knew. His was a belief in the apocalypse and God's Kingdom. That is Love.

>>17103123
>You'll die.
>The Sun will engulf the solar system and everyone will die.
>The Sun will die too.
>Then all the other stars will also die or turn into black holes.
>And even black holes will eventually vanish.
Thank God

>>17103123
Then, seize the time you have, for you will never come again OP.

>>17106433
Nothing lasts forever. Didn’t I just describe a cycle of the ever changing universe? I did, but somehow it didn’t register in that noggin of yours

>>17106898
You will die at some point and choose to be a confrontational tranny instead of a normal human being.

Starmaker - Olaf Stapledon