/lit/ - Literature

Death came swirling UP

Fuck E William Brown.
He gave his non pay piggie fans nothing for Christmas.

We are a thread of lovers.

> CURSE SANDARO!

5th for Sanderson needs a new, NEW editor.

Quite frankly if you're into fantasy and you haven't read The Burning books 1 and 2 you're missing out.

@>>17095805
for the new bread
>>17099880

>>17100016
>>17100017
gimme a rundown, have not heard of either

If you're into satirical fantasy, this is a good choice.

>>17099872
WHAT DONT YOU SEE

>you will never make sweet love to Princess-Imperial Anasûrimbor Theliopa literally and unironically for the sole purpose of procreation

What's your favourite outdated hard sci-fi?

>>17100025
It's essentially Gladiator/Spartacus set in a Sahara Africa substitute.
It's fairly brutal. Good cast of characters, good main characters, it's quick and gets to the point of things. Neat magic system that involves tapping into literal Hell to channel it outwards.

>>17100089
I'm partial to Ender's Game

>Discord spoiler
hello? based department?

>>17100074
>pick your Princess-Imperial waifu
Serwa > Mimara >>>>>>>>>>>> Thelli

>>17100074
>tfw no autistic anasurimbor gf

>>17100129
>whore
>whore
>qt skeleton autist

The answer should be clear

>>17100140
moar like
>tfw no dead elf ash cocaine
>tfw no absolute
why even live, dûnyainbros

>>17100074
thelli > serwe > mimara

>>17100201
>>17100141
>>17100129
The Consult-engineered perfection of the Thing-called-Serwë >>>>>>>>>> filthy h*moid roasties
> tfw no skin-spy gf (male)

>>17099988
22th for Sanderon needs to learn how to write.

“You are not of the land,” Cnaiür grated, drawing high a scarred fist.

“Scylvendi!” a voice cried out.

He turned, saw the sorcerer’s whore standing on the threshold of an adjoining chamber. For a heartbeat they simply stared at each other, equally dumbfounded.

“You will not!' '" she suddenly cried, her voice shrill with fury.

She advanced into the nursery, and Cnaiür found himself stepping back from the crib. He did not breathe, but then it seemed he no longer needed to.

“He’s all that remains of Serwë,” she said, her voice more wary, more conciliatory. “All that’s left … Proof that she was. Would you take that from her as well?”

Her proof. Cnaiür stared at Esmenet in horror, then glanced at the child, pink and writhing in blue silk sheets.

“But its ''name!' ” he heard someone cry. Surely the voice was too womanish, too weak, to be his.

''Something’s wrong with me … Something’s wrong ...''

>>17100263
Moënghus II is a Chad and I like his character arc, from fake Prince-Imperial to accepting his Scylvendi nature. If there's ever a No-God series I want to know how he'll lead the Tribes. Too bad Bakker's dead and there will never be a third trilogy, so we are just going to have to make up our own headcanon.

>meow
meow

>>17100317
cnauir mogged him though

how is Sandersama's prose?
I'm not expecting someone on-par with Gene Wolfe but is it at least somewhere between bare bones and purple?

>>17100483
it's shit, it's literally fanfiction.net tier, no exaggeration. don't read that absolute hack if you have any respect for yourself.

>>17100483
It's really bad. To the point of being immersion breaking.

>>17100491
>imagine the smell

>>17100491
>>17100504
what exactly is it that makes it so bad?
I've heard the complaint about everyone speaking like a 20 year old whore already

Just finished [pic related].
It was pretty good.

Can anyone recommended me some other Biblical/Religious fantasy, please?

>>17100516
I cannot quote anything right now, but if you look for Lift's dialogue and Shallan jokes you will understand.

He's also over very repetitive. I can honestly appreciate when the author reminds me of something from the previous books, but he keeps shoving things down your throat that you already now. He uses the same verbs over and over again and when he's describing a fight, it looks like he's commentating on an e-sport.

His characters are also really bland overall. He has this habit of making them go through their internal monologues every couple of paragraphs.

The stories he creates are very original but he ultimately fails to deliver. Every main character has fan-armor and you never feel like anything's at stake. His stories are also very predictable.

Reminder

>>17100597
I was actually there when it happened.

>>17100540
this filtered me, intro was dank but i got to like chapter 9 and it was really boring.

>>17100607
You missed out on some prime cunny, anon.

My dad loves Discworld and Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. Anything I should get him for Christmas? He's already read everything Terry Pratchett wrote. I don't know what if anything to get him because I don't care for Adams or Pratchett.

My friend is recommending this to me , what am i in for?

Any books with a protagonist like Gully Foyle?

Can any one tell me if Bakker has any of his books translated to other languages? If so, which ones?

>Of course, it is worth touching a bit more on the sexual violence. Bakker has a bizarre sense of sexuality, I think. It's impossible to read this book and not think that he probably hates women, or at least has a very low opinion of them. The only female characters in the novel (there are very few--really only two) are used and treated purely as sexual objects. Also, one of them is raped for hours but continually orgasms while she's being raped. This is a bizarre thing to write, especially because it complicates, I think, Bakker's views on rape. Because consent basically doesn't exist in any sexual relationship in the novel (one of the female characters is a sex slave, the other is a prostitute [of course there's consent involved in prostitution, but sex being consensually contractual is a bit different from consent between willing partners]), it seems odd that Bakker chooses to make her orgasms such an important aspect. Or that she includes them at all, And the orgasms, in part, keep her from being able to give consent(?) which is just...well it's odd.

What the fuck Bakker is this true?

>>17100483
Shills will try to deflect but this is a pretty standard paragraph for him

>>17100699
Not really defending Bakker because he legitimately writes female characters in the first series like a horny 15-year-old incel. But the women in the second series are much better written. And I believe his intention of filling his world with so much sexual violence was to characterize it as the "worst of all possible worlds;" to show its utter disconnect from modern values and morals; and to disconcert and disturb the reader. To this end, he's very effective... I don't think he's trying to endorse or justify sexual violence, I think he's trying to say it's wrong, but also to represent it as unforunately commonplace in the horrific world of Eärwa (which is much like the violently patriarchal history of our own world). And keep in mind there's just as much male-on-male rape in the series, if not more, than male-on-female.

Being myself a survivor, when I read Bakker it's clear to me that he experienced some kind of abuse as a kid, at least physical abuse, and it comes through in his writing in a distinct way.

>>17100662
i saw a serbian TDTCB cover once

>>17100699
>Also, one of them is raped for hours but continually orgasms while she's being raped.
wtf i love bakker now

>>17100777
>Molested kid turns out to be a tripfaggot
Why am I not surprised

>>17100777
>those digits
the judging eye of the god-of-gods approves this post

>>17100777
Doesn't reading him actually make things worse for you?

>>17100811
In a weird way, it's sort of cathartic or therapeutic. It's strangely relatable, which again makes me think that Bakker is exorcizing demons from his own past.

>>17100777
Same. I mentioned in another thread I think he was more likely an impotent witness, or at least feels he was as such. Might have caught some backsplash abuse.

>>17100754
>People will say that this isn't YA

FUCKING LMAO

>>17100811
>reading material related to your abuse makes things worse

Absolute brainlet kiddy take. One can be assaulted through intentional harassment with representations of trauma, but if you stumble upon trauma-related reading and you are actually hurt by it, you need drugs and a psychologist to work through your victim complex. You can be made uncomfortable, but all research suggests good-faith interaction with your trauma only improves your outlook, and my experience shows that.

t. trauma victim.

>>17100858
>>17100833
Thanks for posting. It takes a huge amount of courage to face the darkness but it's the only way to overcome it. Stay strong Anons.

>>17100858
>"Believe me guys, I'm a victim"

>>17100662
yeah his main series is in a few different languages

>>17100699
women often orgasm during rape though and she's being raped by a super skilled sexual monster

the orgasms make her feel bad and add to the horror aspect

>>17100948
the black seed really sells it

I really need to re-read Bakker. All the rapes didn't feel properly impactful to me through audiobooks.

>>17100922
>do you have a citation for your personal experience

I could provide citations for the psychology literature, but thats your homework.

>>17101020
>reading bakker on audiobooks

idk seems like you would miss a lot, cna't be worse than malazan though

>>17100622
https://www.goodreads.com/series/42001-millennial-contest

These are kinda fun. Better than pratchett imo.

>>17100777
Why do reviewers and literature commentators in general have this grandiose "I'm a psychologist" syndrome where they extrapolate on what the Author's personality is like based on what is written on a made up sff novel?

>>17100851
What's YA about it?

>62 posts
>17 unique IPs
Another SANDSTORM by Darude thread?

>>17100754
>not the part where BASED Huio ascends to the next super saiyan rank by telling THE Lopen off

>>17101082
>>>/a/

> Be Esmenet
> Be sinner, do sins
> Be Saved anyway
Why does this hoe deserve le heckin' salvation while everyone else burns? Is it because Kellhus loves her (doubt)? Or because Mimara loves her, and the Judging Eye somehow perceives or operates on that subjective love? Or is it because she is an Angelic Ciphrang? Haven't found a good answer on this one yet.

>>17100622

Rob Reid is also worth a look.

>>17101111
one theory is yatwer likes her because she had lots of kids and yatwer thinks she kills kellhus via WLW cos no god invisible yada yada

http://www.jmd-reid.com/reread/reread-of-the-warrior-prophet-chapter-twenty-five/

this might interest you bakker fans btw

>>17101111
>he thinks the judging eye tells mimara the truth

>>17101065
> Novel has a war between humans and an Alien Race
Author is most definitely racist.
> Novel has humans colonizing an Alien civilization
Author is a colonialism apologist.
> Novel has no lgbt characters
Author is a bigot.
> Novel has rape
Author hates women.

The list goes on and on. It never ends.

>>17101111
I think Mimara is just being rused by the Judging Eye to behave.
>baby also is conveniently the most saved being in the entirety of existence

>>17101139
>author has a female character who fails at something, is unlikeable, is killed, or raped

SEXIST

thoughts on Desolate Era?

>>17101145
>No female character warriors

YOU ARE PART OF THE PATRIARCHY

>>17101143>>17101137

So if the Eye doesn't tell the objective truth, then what is its point or value? Makes no sense bros. Sometimes I think Bakker throws in ~unexplainable mysteries~ like this to mystify his readers and cause them to speculate wildly, like we are doing now. It's like the head on a pole thing. It could mean anything, so it's kind of cop-out on the writer's part desu.
> Mimara's baby
I heard a weird theory that Kellhus transferred his soul to the baby before being salted, so the child will grow up to be an uber-Kellhus.

>>17101181
Ji Ning practicing his sword arts :3

>>17101190
dune esque

“Ah, yes, Proyas the Judge.” The Marshal leaned back into his drink and cushions. When he continued, it was with a strange, dislocated voice—one that had discarded hope.

“So he bade Horomon,” he quoted, “to offer his cheeks into his hands, saying to the others, ‘This man, who has put out the eyes of his enemy, the God has struck blind.’

Then he spit once into each socket and said, ‘This man, who has sinned, I have made clean.’ And Horomon cried out in wonder, for he had been sightless, and now he could see.”

He quoted The Tractate, Achamian realized, the famed passage where Inri Sejenus restored the sight of a notorious Xerashi criminal. For many Inrithi, “seeing with Horomon’s eyes” was synonymous with “revelation.”

Xinemus turned from Proyas to Achamian, as though from a lesser to a greater enemy. “He cannot heal, Akka. The Warrior-Prophet … He cannot heal.”

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/45047384-the-house-in-the-cerulean-sea

Now this synopsis sounds pretty cool. I don't know about the quality of the book itself, but I wish more fantasy tried new things like this.

tfw you realise cnauir likes to fug skin spies so much because he's a fag and they have a penis, but he also likes feeling like a straightoid and booyah hotties who affirm his masculinity

>>17101228

>new things like this

???

>>17101065
Because they're not so smart and feel like it by doing it.

Tell me what to read of the following and why

- The Goblin Emperor
- Curse of Chalion
- Seven Deaths of Evelyn Hardcastle
- Piranesi

>>17101314
The Goblin Emperor - No, it's boring and too simple.

Curse of Chalion - No, it's overhyped.

Seven Deaths of Evelyn Hardcastle - No, it's all gimmick and no substances with the worst ending.

Piranesi - No, because it's meaningless drivel.

>>17101349
I feel like you have not read any of those.

>>17099863
my world: ...＾
fairies live in a magical high tower with many rooms. The height of the tower is 11 inches. The pastel texture of the tower imitates brickwork and shingles, on top of it is decorated with a large crown. The tower "opens" on each floor, and it can be closed with latches in the form of ponyshoes. Fairies move between floors on a special elevator platform. There is a floor lamp on the top floor, and when you click on it, the elevator turns on a beautiful illumination(yay)。
Reviews＾: 1.”... yay! I love playing with the colorful fairies with cute sprinkle magic yay!“ 2.”so cute and pastel and yay! love fairy game ＾＾“ 3.”build the castles for everynyan yay ^ ^”
ユニ妖精図書館(ユニゲーム)yay＾(educational academy for learning cute magic as a fairi but also an infinite sandbox and fantasy exploration but there is also some mini games where you can yay coins and spend them on cute magic spells / creating fairy blocks or fairyshop economy/ flowers and fruits ..)
＾like this game it is ultra dreamy and fairy worlded game but it is ultra legit project for everyfairi for studying cute magic in academy and create cute fantasies and worlds and even more sparkly inspirations and cute pastels...
so do not worry like you can always try and yay again(yaaay)＾

it’s okay if you don’t feel happy or positive about things somedays, your feelings are completely yay!!
you are gonna be yaaay truly(yay) be understanding and kind, do not let anynyan invalidate your feelings, you will always be cute fairi)＾
So it’s a bit strange at first but suddenly everything is cute and and yay。

(Gameplay's core is perfecting world by imagination and cute magic)
⑅
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qk5LYjSYV8Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AsdAQUakAc
so it is yay truly and ultra dreamy and cute 。
btw (yay==cute and dreamy yay fantasi way... like any subculture like emo and goth can be called a cult but fairi is yay truly(yay) and you be a fairi if you are goth or emo or any other fairy already (yay))。
verything i write is my true personality(i act like that irl too(yay))(so do not worry & yay... in the past i just tried to write posts more sparkly in fairi language but it was actually kind of sad for me truly and like i cried a lot qwq because there were many replies that this game is kind of not a serious project and may be even something not dreamy :c which is not true at all so it was ultra sad ...)...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdoihwSoZ4s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQAXsMMPGAs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eJFb46cNyY


...＾
so i hope like everyfairi and pony will be able to make the world more dreamy with it by artstudying and being a fairi...＾

>so do not worry like you can always try and yay again(yaaay)＾
>you will always be cute fairi
yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay＾

Korean cultivation novels > Chinese cultivation novels.

>>17101359
You'd be right.

>>17101190
You tards have to keep in mind that you're reading the grimderpiest of grimderp. Grimderp is all about edginess and SUBVERSION.

>>17101454
gib korean cultivation nobels

Any Bizarre sci-fi books that dont devolve into plot and characters that are completely incomprehensible?

Someone recommended me these authors for modern SF and Fantasy. Are they any good? I looked through the reading charts and could only seen Jemison.

>Nk Jemison
>Fonda Lee
>Tochi Onyebuchi
>Sa Chakraborty
>Sarah Gailey
>Akwaeke Emezi
>Charlie Jane Anders
>Kacen Callendar
>Ve Schwab

>>17101659

Any list that starts with Jemison is to be instantly disregarded. Some of the worst garbage I've read in my entire life.

>>17101659
looks like a #woke list, muh hwhite man bad

>>17101659
>Female authors
Haha

>>17101659
Seems like the usual LGBT diversity redditcore list.

>>17101674
>>17101681
I was worried it would be like this, medicore books just #woke.

>>17101665
I looked up her fantasy trilogy and it didn't sound good at all.

Fwiw the person sold them to me by mentioning the Hugo awards and how these writers "dominate the genre."

I'll skip and get some of Lem books I don't own.

>>17101659
Literally never heard of any of them.

>>17101752
>>17101700
>>17101659
I hadn't heard of any of these either so I looked them up.
> River of Teeth by Sarah Gailey
Cool title right?
> In the 1850s, President James Buchanan approved a plan to import hippopotamuses into the United States as livestock. Decades later, the lawless swamps of Louisiana are infested with murderous feral hippos, and Winslow Houndstooth and his band of misfits are hired to clear them out.
wow..... they/themme really pulled out all the stops on this one

>>17101700

Traditionally the Hugo, Nebula, and Phillip K. Dick awards have been a primary driving force behind sci fi & fantasy. Lately they have become just another stalking horse for wokeshit.

Jemison was my wakeup call and came as a huge disappointment. Absolutely nothing award-worthy in her fiction; characters, plot, setting all very mediocre ranging to terrible. She does nothing but bank wokepoints from cover to cover.

>>17101659
Never heard of any of these people and that's usually not a good sign.

>>17101774
Oh dear..

>>17101797
That's a shame, I did worry it was stuff like that but wanted to check, i'll just avoid it all, thanks.

>>17101774
What the fuck? This is like something a creative writing student does to amuse their friends.

>>17101774
>>In the 1850s, President James Buchanan approved a plan to import hippopotamuses into the United States as livestock. Decades later, the lawless swamps of Louisiana are infested with murderous feral hippos, and Winslow Houndstooth and his band of misfits are hired to clear them out.

This could be absolutely based if it were written by Cormac McCarthy. Sort've a combination of Suttree and Blood Meridian?

>>17101881
It sounds like it could be interesting, like a 'The Man-eaters of Tsavo', but 'band of misfits' is so overused at this point it makes it scream YA garbage.

>>17101881
yeah, no.

>>17101700
>>Fwiw the person sold them to me by mentioning the Hugo awards and how these writers "dominate the genre."
The hugo awards have increasingly become this insular club of woke authors and critics patting each other on the back. It used to mean something, but anymore it's just about virtue signalling. In the last 10 years, the awards have become less and less relevant to the genre as a whole. What most people are reading and talking about, and what is having the biggest impact, you won't see any of it in the Hugos these days.

>>17101700
>Fwiw the person sold them to me by mentioning the Hugo awards
They probably don't actually like or read much SF or Fantasy then, which is why they use the awards to gauge something's worth rather than having a personal opinion. Truth is if they actually did read any of those stories I doubt they could recommend them with a straight face.

https://www.deviantart.com/uthp/journal/The-Legend-of-Twilight-Zelda-Princess-part-I-348420007

>>17100754
>this PoV of a highly foreign goofball speaking to an equally foreign visitor from his most recent novella that was only written on a lark in what was clearly an excuse to play with "foreign" languages is a standard example of the dozens of other books he's written
If his prose is so bad, why is this the only passage you ever post?

read the farseer trilogy and yeah that shit was alright but the last book was fucking awful

>>17101060
>>17101120
Thanks for the recommendations guys, I will pass them along to my dad.

>>17102049
>If his prose is so bad, why is this the only passage you ever post?
I can't post more because I'm on mobile. But by all means, post good Sanderson prose. I'll wait.

>30 unique IPs
>phoneposters
As (((always)))

>>17102216
>I fucking hate this guy, but I have this piece of shit I can't stand saved in my phone because it's so intolerable
Rent free, what a joke you faggots are.

>>17102320
>Can't post good prose.

Kek

>>17102216
>phoneposter
>just reposts the exact same image over and over, has never actually read anything written by Sanderson
>probably cannot even explain what is supposed to be wrong with the image he posts
You are like a stereotype of every wannabe aesthete shitposter on /lit/

>>17102320
>Implying I posted that image on mobile.
>Implying I hate Sanderson

>>17102337
>>17102320

Based seething Sandershitters.

>>17102328
Can you even define "good prose" in concrete terms? Can you even explain why your criteria matter for good storytelling? I'm guessing no on both counts.

Really no different than /v/ at this point. Crossboarders shit up everything they touch.

>>17102349
Yet another post with zero substance and filled with buzzwords. Definitively pseud-tier /lit/.

>>17102337
I'm still waiting for a good prose example. :^)

>>just reposts the exact same image over and over, has never actually read anything written by
Maybe some Shallan witty jokes? Or some Chiri-Chiri? Did I forget Lift?

>>17102374
see >>17102360
There's no point in trying to meet standards you don't actually have. Set some sensible criteria if you want examples.

>>17102360
>Can you even explain why your criteria matter for good storytelling
LMAO

You literally can't make this shit up.

Sandershitters on suicide watch.

>>17102381
>can't explain what good prose is
Why am I not surprised?

>>17102381
I'm starting to think sandersonfags have a point. You guys are nothing but shitposters.

>>17100622
blindsight, then the bakkerpill

>>17102381
If you actually knew what you were talking about you could explain this easily, in a couple sentences. Instead you just shitpost even harder to deflect from the fact that you don't actually know what good prose is, and probably don't even care, and just want to shit on a popular author like a /v/-tier troll.

>>17100699
absolutely and resolutely, implacably, unmovably fucking BASED.

>>17100777
bakker is a married man with children you fucking gay abomination. nice trips tho.

>That one guy unironically samefagging and answering every singly post criticizing Brandon like he's trying to defend his honor for some weird reason.

Based retard.

>>17100622
Mindswap or Dimension of Miracles by Sheckley. Sheckley was pretty much a proto-Adams.

>>17102412
I don't particularly like Sanderson, I'm just tired of obnoxious trolls shitting on actual discussion. I'd do the same for people shitting on bakker-autists or even GRRM fans (if they existed). These parasites are a blight on our general thread and contribute nothing.

>>17100754
I don't see anything particularly wrong with that. Sanderson's target audience is underage.

>>17102049
>“That lighta above, the lunks from the sky. I head loudin about it that was you, outsida, eh?
>"Yeah"
>The girl turned as if to leave, but then reconsidered and put a hand on lift's arm.
>"You," the girl said to Lift. "Outsida?"
>"Yeah."
>"You listenin'?"
>"I'm listenin'."
>"People, they don't listen.”

What was I thinking? Edgehancer truly was a masterpiece of the literary arts.

>>17102049
>T-T-That doesn't count!
Ok lol

where my chinkshit connoisseurs at?
what you gents reading?

>>17102421
>I don't particularly like Sanderson

You clearly do.

>someone asks if sanderson's prose is good
>someone posts a segment of sanderson's writing
>fanboys squeal and cry and say he's an amazing writer
>can't explain why or show an example
It's almost like I've seen this before

>>17102569
Based

Well this was a pretty damn disappointing follow up to Blindsight.

>hmm today I will be scared shitless by a vampire
>huffs space-slime
>just kidding lmao yeet

>>17101774
Sounds like a comedy premise

Are there any worthwhile author's that aren't afraid to kill the main characters?

>>17102698
there needs to be a reason to do so other than just edge/subversion, right?

>>17102706
That's why I said "worthwhile". I despise "fan-armor". Makes every story look cheap, like there's nothing on the line.

>>17101774
I'd read that premise totally straight.

>>17102543
Coiling Dragon Ring Books 2 & 3 as soon as they drop on audible.
Need my chink rape.

>>17102801
>Linley
>rape
Linley is a true Paragon to look up to :-)

Are there any books about space economics? Like how space supports all those ships, what pirates actually do with the shit they steal. What traders actually trade and how it is economically feasible et.c

>>17102946
That sounds boring. Why would you want to read such a thing?

>>17102979
I'd find it kind of interesting, although there better be an actual good story there too.

>>17102946
Neptune's Brood goes into this, but it wasn't a very good book and the more I think about it, the less sense the economic system seems to make

/sffg/, talk me out of this

>cat familiar speaks like a spoiled, uptight victorian child

>>17102979
Because 99% of sff economies are handwaved away. If writers can autistically write about physics or why their kingdoms are totally unique, surely some can autistically write about space economy and make it interesting?

>>17103076
Women will love it.

>>17102979
Economists need a way to have fun too

>>17103117
Yes, because nothing screams "fun" like mixing your job with your hobby.

>>17103172
There are plenty of nerds who love to mix hobbies with their jobs.

>>17103172
It's still annoying when an author just completely ignores a thing you happen to be knowledgeable in. You can't help asking the questions

>>17103197
Good on them. I believe that that's a terrible idea. Unless you're actually successful doing what you really love.

>>17103206
Even worse is when they get it completely wrong because they didn't care enough to ask an expert.

>>17103220
>Good on them. I believe that that's a terrible idea. Unless you're actually successful doing what you really love.

The kind of nerds who mix hobbies and jobs usually love both. I know a metallurgical engineer who has built a couple forges in his backyard and is always having fun smelting metal and casting stuff and a botanist who's obsessed with hydroponic gardening at home.

>>17103237
>Became a programmer because of video games
>Now I hate video games

Well, I guess I have books.

>>17100540
I haven't re-read it in a while, but Good Omens is a solid comedic fantasy with religious iconography as a major part of its premise. I was going to reply to >>17100029 with this suggestion as well.
>>17101454
Pardon my ignorance. What is a Cultivation novel?

>>17100147
>why even live
>korningus
Anon I...

>>17100948
This is what incels actually believe.

>>17103421
perhaps you have grasped the circumference of my jest, anon.

How to make a coherent sci-fi/fantasy plot and characters out of a lot of set pieces, locations and a list of disjointed "cool moments" that I've been working on?

Give me your favorite sff subgenre or microgenre

>>17103461
if there aren’t core character arcs and an overarching challenge which must be faced and overcome, it will never amount to anything more than that.... a bunch of cool set pieces, aka nothing of value.

i haven’t read sanderhack, but i assume even his shittery features relatable characters which must face and overcome internal and external obstacles at great peril. otherwise it isn’t a story, it’s just deviantart / shitposting.

>>17103470
weird science

>>17102946
It's not literature, but the show Planetes is a neat story about the infrastructure of near-future interplanetary travel. Economics definitely plays a part, though it somewhat devolves into an action movie in the third act. Don't worry, anon, I'd like to read something like this as well.
>>17103076
Why would I talk you out of a good idea? Give the cat a pretentious medieval-era name like Hrafn and you're all set.

>“Elia of Dorne,” they all heard Ser Gregor say, when they were close enough to kiss. His deep voice boomed within the helm. “I killed her screaming whelp.” He thrust his free hand into Oberyn’s unprotected face, pushing steel fingers into his eyes. “Then I raped her.” Clegane slammed his fist into the Dornishman’s mouth, making splinters of his teeth. “Then I smashed her fucking head in. Like this.” As he drew back his huge fist, the blood on his gauntlet seemed to smoke in the cold dawn air. There was a sickening crunch. Ellaria Sand wailed in terror, and Tyrion’s breakfast came boiling back up. He found himself on his knees retching bacon and sausage and applecakes, and that double helping of fried eggs cooked up with onions and fiery Dornish peppers."
What the fuck is GRRM's problem? He goes into describing food porn while someone's dying a horrible death

> “Men are bent on clarity and proportion, even when there is none to be found,” he explained. “They offer up broken visions, Proyas, and call them perfect and whole.” A grandfather’s rueful smile, canny and adoring. “What else can Men see, when their eyes are so small?”

>>17103488
the eternal fatty. where Sanderson writes with his wallet, and Bakker with his dick, GRRM writes with his belly. simple as

>>17103475
>if there aren’t core character arcs and an overarching challenge which must be faced and overcome
so how do I extrapolate those starting from what I have? I should probably mention that I also know the theme and moral argument that I wish to explore.

>>17103488
It’s fucking hilarious. And it’s clearly meant to trigger shitters like you.

>>17103500
Bakker doesn't write with his dick he writes with his soul! His SOUL!

>>17102946
I recall parts of the Foundation trilogy being like this but it's been a while since I've read it.

>>17103503
>Le based fat jew le triggering you!!

>>17102946
Neptune's Brood.

>>17101111
>gives birth to literal prophets
AARRGGHG

>>17103488
I did not expect how hard I'd be laughing right at the end of that block of text.

Is this good enough for a chinkshit reading list?

>>17103670
sure
see you in twenty years

>>17103670
>no Poppy War
>no Unsouled

>>17102569
>someone asks if sanderson's prose is good
>the same anon whose anus gets in a froth from simply reading of he-who-shall-not-be-named reposts the same fragment of purposely hokey dialog for at least the dozenth time while denying he has a problem
>fans point out this fragment is hokey on purpose and his prose is fine
>butthurt haters continually shitpost and discuss Sanderson more than people who actually enjoy his shit, again, pretending that hate-reading thousands of pages of "bad prose, shit characters, and terrible writing" somehow makes them big-brain intellectuals
FTFY
Rent free :^)

>>17102653

I really enjoyed it, but it seems to be very polarizing and most people seem not to.

>>17102946

CJ Cherryh's Alliance/Union novels often touch on this stuff.

Also DUNE...

>>17095270
I found an entire set (less one) at a charity bookstore

>>17098254
sunburn

>>17103816
I love how mad you are, keep defending sanderson for free though!

>>17100029
How satirical?

>>17103334
Cultivation novels are like kung fu web novels about young masters joining sects, slapping face and raping supreme beauties while under the effects of aphrodisiacs.

>>17103076
no give it tits instead

>>17101948
Which is why Larry Correia gets a lot of respect from me. The man writes shlocky gun books and then walked up to that hornets nest and fired a shot gun.

>>17101948
The Hugos are 100% popular vote. Authors and critics don't choose. Anyone who pays the $50 membership fee is allowed to vote.

what are some books that feature dragonpeople?

>>17102973
Easy to make a book chart, but about the worst possible visual aesthetic.

>rereading TSA
>at the beginning of TGO where it describes how the Ordeal is starting to eat fucking Sranc
What the GRI doesn't do, this does. Absolutely disgusting. What the fuck, Kellhus?

I want to BUFF the mental patient.

>>17104210
But they’re so tasty
Like fish, like lamb
I like my Srsnc steak char grilled with a squeeze of lemon and a pinch if thyme. Makes me feel strong and it’s an all natural viagra as well.

>>17104008
>REEEEEEEE STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE, YOU'RE SO MAD REEEEEEEEE

>>17104168
Dragonlance

>>17104168
Coiling Dragon
MC is a dragonpeople

>>17104450
There are dragons in Dragonlance but not actual dragonpeople.

>>17104456
>but not actual dragonpeople

>>17104349
Seething

>>17104512
>reading non-mainline trilogies
whoooooooa buddy

>>17103501
Not that anon. I have some broad advice, and some more general advice that I can't give without greater context.

Think about the message of your story - what you call your theme and moral argument. Try and phrase it in a sentence, preferably some sort of leading question or call to action. For example, you posted Star Wars, whose message can be described as something like "Be mindful of the greater 'Force' that guides us and don't give in to your base desires." It's easy to phone it in and say, "The theme of my novel is the evil of greed," but there are a thousand ways to represent greed that will each have a very different impact on the same audience. Having a theme at all is more than some writers can say when starting out, so good on you.

Then, project this theme onto something that inhabits your world - a potential protagonist and hero. Put a massive obstacle (central conflict, overarching challenge, call it what you need to) in the way of his or her everyday life, with consequences for failing to act, and requiring drastic change to overcome. If it's a Star Wars-styled swashbuckling fantasy adventure, making a villain who wants to kill the hero is an acceptable shortcut to take here. In that case, the villain will defy your moral argument, and the hero will have to express it through his actions to save the day. The supporting characters should also contrast or reflect the protagonist in some noticeable way, to keep them connected to the core message.

Anyone figured out a way to rip entire chink webnovels from the websites? I like having my books available offline

>TFW you finally have the name for the side character

>>17104552
>projecting
Buzzwords are fun!

>>17104093
On a scale out of ten, I'd give it a seven or eight. The main wizard is a complete fucking lunatic. He drags his poor apprentice on a drunken crime spree, they end up accidentally stumbling onto some seriously dark magic, and basically blunder their way into being heroes.

Any books with orc futas?

>>17104681
high quality post, thanks anon.

>>17104738
pic related

>>17101314
I found piranesi to be a bit boring.

>>17104159
>The Hugos are 100% popular vote.
Uh no? They are not popular vote at all.

>>17103513
Leafs have no soul.

>>17100631
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuZe_Vn0wEk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dR3OFY0Z9NA&ab_channel=SlowlyRed

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>17104562
Draconians are in the original trilogy you illiterate peasant.

Cnaiür howled in exultation. They came at him with the butts and hafts of their spears, their faces screwed in terror and determination. Cnaiür leapt into their midst, scarred arms hacking.

“Demon!” he roared. “Demon!”

Hands clutched for his arms and he shattered wrists, punctured faces. Forms tackled his torso and he snapped necks, crushed spines. He tossed lifeblood skyward, nailed beating hearts still. All the world had become rotted leather, and he the only iron. The only iron. He was of the People. Without warning, the Nansur relented, crowded back into the shields of those behind, away from the advance of his dripping aspect. They stared in horror and astonishment. All the world seemed afire

. “For a thousand years!” he grated. “Fucking your wives! Strangling your children! Striking down your fathers!” He brandished his broken sword. Blood spilled in loops from his elbow. “For a thousand years I have stalked you!” He threw aside the blade, kicked a spear into his hand, then cast it at the soldier before him. It punched through his shield, through his banded cuirass, and erupted from the small of his back. Cnaiür laughed. The roaring flames took up his voice, made it sorcerous with dread. Cries and shouts. Some even dropped their weapons.

“Take him!” a voice was shrieking. “You are Nansur! Nansur!”

A familiar voice. It exerted a collective force, a consciousness of shared blood. Cnaiür lowered his chin, smiled … They came as one this time, an encompassing wave of blows and clutching hands. He hammered and wrenched, but they bore him down. Everything became eye-watering numbness. They seemed howling apes, dancing and punishing, dancing and punishing.

Afterward, they cleared a path for their all-conquering Exalt-General. Smoke towered into the firmament beyond the battered beauty of his face, shrouding stars. His eyes were the same, though they appeared unnerved—very unnerved. “No different,” his broken lips spat. “No different than Xunnurit after all.”

>>17103816
You need to be 18 to post here.

>>17104349
By all means, enjoy it. Here’s another sample:
>“That lighta above, the lunks from the sky. I head loudin about it that was you, outsida, eh?
>"Yeah"
>The girl turned as if to leave, but then reconsidered and put a hand on lift's arm.
>"You," the girl said to Lift. "Outsida?"
>"Yeah."
>"You listenin'?"
>"I'm listenin'."
>"People, they don't listen.”

>>17104682
Microsoft Print to PDF

What are these chink novels everyone keeps bringing up? Are they any good? Where can I find them? What are they about?

Yes, I’m new here.

>>17100650
Gateway

>>17106024
the questions you ask have answers already ITT

>>17106024
nothing chinese is ever good, especially something that you can't just reverse engineer and copy

>>17106024
Dumb trash

>>17106098
>t. Sandersoy

>>17106137
even sandershit is better than chinese ``literature''

>>17105826
This is not real, right?

Lol what fantasy authors does this thread actually like ???? One that people have fucking heard of please

>>17106612
>One that people have fucking heard of please
>>>/tg/

Lin Qi, chair and CEO of Yoozoo, which is adapting "The Three-Body Problem" book series for Netflix has been poisoned as part of a suspected murder attempt.
He may have been poisoned by Xu Yao, who is CEO of the branch of Yoozoo that controls the books' properties.

>>17100777
>And keep in mind there's just as much male-on-male rape in the series, if not more, than male-on-female.
well there goes any desire i had to maybe one day take a look at this guy's stuff.

>>17106024
they're terrible

>>17104682
If you can save it to an html, download Sigil, import the html, split it into chapters or sections if you want, and save as epub.

>>17105826
>LOOK, LOOK, I POSTED THE SAME DIALOGUE FROM AN ILLITERATE ORPHANED STREET URCHIN FOR THE SECOND TIME, ISN'T THAT RETARDED, I LITERALLY CAN'T STOP THINKING ABOUT IT XD

>>17107211
because?

>>17100777
>Being myself a survivor

"the" survivor

>NO!!!! YOU CAN'T CRITICIZE SANDESON'S PROSE!!! THAT EXAMPLE DOESN'T COUNT!

>>17106087
>>17106098
>>17107299
>>17106192
imagine preferring quippy dialogue and gender diversity to the only straight forward hero's journey tales still be written with a dash of mysticism

Rain. It was one of those showers that came sudden upon dusk, foreshortening the sunlight and within moments casting the pall of woollen night.

Water fell in sheets, vanishing into grasses, hissing across bare ground, bouncing across the dark welter of canvas slopes. Gusts made mist of the torrent, and sodden banners thrashed like fish on hooks.

Hoarse shouts and curses echoed through the encampment. The delinquent battled to pitch their tents. Some few stripped and stood naked, letting the water cleanse the long, long road from their skin.

>>17107454
>implying that pic related is good prose

>>17107454
cope

>>17107454
>faggot stutter speech in the very first sentence
yup, I am not reading that shit

>>17107454
>"It will", Wit said, "but then it will get better. Then it will get worse again. Then better.

Imagine unironically posting this and thinking that this is good prose.

>>17104168
I think one of Poul Anderson's characters is a dragon-like alien centaur thing.

>>17107568
There's a lot of wiggle room between "good" and "worst shit ever". I'm OK with passable because I'm not a try-hard pseud, keep up faggot.

People die when they are killed

>>17107634
>no faggot stutter speech at all
I'm questioning whether you can read.

>>17107819
WHAT NATURE KILLS, MEN MURDER!

>>17102979
The economics of interplanetary and interstellar expansion are very interesting. Give Isaac Arthur's videos a try.

>>17107819
WHAT THE WORLD KILLS, MEN MURDER!

>>17107561
Recommend me one that you think is particularly good.

>>17107807
>OK SANDERSON'S PROSE MIGHT NOT BE GOOD, BUT IT'S PASSABLE!!! OK??!!!

>>17107454
Hahahahahaha
Fucking sanderson

>>17107454
Sounds like a cute story.

>>17107819
>>17107896
All will be eaten here.

>>17105394
>How to Vote

>Each year, members of the World Science Fiction Society are invited to nominate and vote on the Hugo Awards. You can become a member by joining the current year’s World Science Fiction Convention.

>You do not need to attend the convention in order to nominate or vote. A “supporting membership” will be sufficient to make you a member of the World Science Fiction Society and grant you voting rights for both the current year’s nomination stage, the final ballot, and the right to nominate for the next year’s awards.

http://www.thehugoawards.org/i-want-to-vote/

>>17107977
Yeah. Why does that upset you so much?

>>17108068
Do those awards mean anything?

>>17104210
the
MEEEEEEAAAAAAAT

>>17108184
The mutiny itself did not begin until the following morning, soon after the toll of the Interval. Before prayers had even concluded, an Ingraulish knight by the name of Vûgalharsa threw down his great shield and began bellowing the only thing that mattered, the only thing he deserved given the mad deprivations he had endured. “Mich!” he began bellowing. “Mich-mich-mich!”

Meat.

An estimable if not mighty warrior, the Tydonni thane cudgelled the first Judge to seize him, a diminutive Nroni by the curious name of Epithiros. By all accounts, Vûgalharsa and his kinsman began to eat the unfortunate priest, who apparently lived long enough to kindle the lust of thousands, so piercing and effeminate were his screams on the wind. The mutiny proper began when his fellow Ingrauls closed ranks against the company of eighty-three Judges dispatched to recover Epithiros: Men who were likewise murdered, desecrated, and in the case of three, partially consumed.

A contingent of Ainoni—Kishyati for the most part—lay camped adjacent to the Ingraulish mutineers. One could scare imagine a greater gulf between races, and yet the madness leapt between camps with ease. Like the Ingrauls, the swarthy sons of the River Sayut chased away their caste-noble commanders and fell upon the Ministrati encamped among them. They gathered in unruly mobs, their outraged cries falling in and out of unison. The dead they passed across the tips of their spears, exulting in the blood looping across their cheeks and lips.

Souls had become desiccate tinder, and words sparks. Throughout the Great Ordeal, Men threw aside all restraint, and swarmed down the thoroughfares of the encampment, screaming for Meat, and murdering all those who would restrain them. Baron Kemrates Danidas, whose father Shanipal governed Conriya in the Exalt-General’s stead, found himself crossing a camp of Auglishman, a barbaric people hailing from the coasts of Thunyerus, when the mutiny struck. Despite the protestations of his younger brothers (who counselled flight), he attempted to restore order, and so doomed all of Lord Shanipal’s sons. General Inrilil ab Cinganjehoi, another celebrated son of another celebrated warrior from the days of the First Holy War, actually managed to forestall the mutiny among his own Men, only to watch that order dissolve for no reason short the steepening angle of the sun. The General would survive, but only because he, like most other Lords of the Ordeal, refused to raise more than his voice against the growing riot.

Within a watch, the Judges ceased to exist. The manner of their death would soil the heart for hearing.

>>17107911
>particularly good
Ehh, I read chinkshit not because its better than classic /sffg/ but because its more palatable than modern
Unsouled is short and decent
The Poppy War is longer and much more rooted in Chinese history (the setting is literally mystic NOTchina warring with bugmen NOTjapan); the author is also female so there's a tad bit of feminism shit in the first half

>>17108292
I just meant one that you think is good for what it is, not a literary masterpiece of something.

I like Shallan

>>17108162

They used to

>Yeah. Why does that upset you so much?

>>17108286
like all things bakker I gotta read the same sentence five times to tell apart the rapes and when it's just a guy getting eaten/killed.

>>17108314
I like the stuff that's written by English speaking authors (who are usually hapa) whereas something like Desolate Era is long as shit and reads more like a summary than prose

>>17108068
The Hugos are not decided by popular vote of the masses; they're decided by a handful of trannies and pedos.

>>17108942
>not decided by popular vote of the masses
That's the Goodreads Awards

>>17107454
>>17105826

How the fuck can people enjoy this shit?

>>17109110
humans are generally quite stupid, anon. i've learned not to expect much of them. if the average IQ was higher, sanderson wouldn't be a multimillionaire.... but here we are.

>>17108550
>still mad almost 3 hours later
Poor baby.

>>17109110
Because art is subjective and you aren't actually in charge of anything, thank fuck.

>>17109280
>>17109290

>22:51:42
>22:52:43

Seething

>>17109333
>he says, as he continues to be ridiculed for pissing and moaning about the shitty fucking books he literally can't stop talking about

>>17109342
Ridiculed by whom, the fans of said shitty fucking books?

>>17109349
Anyone with a brain and basic logical skills. But please, continue discussing at paradoxical length about how much you hate what you can't seem to put down. Or stop talking about. Or literally get out of your head. It's endlessly amusing, just in case your rage projection tries to confound you over why I care. You people are hilarious.

For me it's

PoN
> The prelude chapter with Leweth and Cet'ingira.
> Seswatha's Dreams.
> The Steppe.
> Sumna.
> The skin-spies.
> The Circumfixion.
> Meeting the Father.

TAE
> Cil-Aujas.
> The Fall of Sakarpus.
> Ishterebinth.
> The Ten-Yoke Legion.
> Ishüal.
> Momemn.
> The Coffers.
> Proyas scene.
> Dagliash.
> The Letting.
> The Golden Room.
> The last chapter.

>>17099863
Why do fantasy authors give such specific information about their worlds history that always correct? I started reading a bit of medieval celtic literature and throughout it, it will state a version of events but then say "but others say this that and the other happened". I feel the conflicting information of the history makes the world feel much more alive. If the annals of a fantasy world are always bang on, it just makes the world feel sterile.

>>17109290
>Because art is subjective and you aren't actually in charge of anything, thank fuck.
Why are you so mad? Are you his editor or something?

>>17109460
>reading historical fantasy

There’s your problem.

>>17109513
>projecting
I talk about things I like. You talk about things you can't stand. Who's really upset here?

>>17109521
It's not even historical fantasy. I mean general tolkienesque fantasy. I don't remember even Tolkien doing this (I could be wrong its been years since I read anything ME related), it would even add more to Middle Earth if there was this conflict of info.

>>17109533
Who do you exactly think you’re speaking to?

I was Bakkerposting in peace until a saw you ranting like a white knight.

I sincerely hope that Sando pays you for this.

>>17101234
Suddenly Cnaiür could feel it: the miles of earth heaped above them, the clawing inversion of ground. He had come too far. He had crawled too deep.
The sword dropped from the stranger’s senseless fingers, rang like something pathetic across the floor. His face broke, like a thing wrapped about twitching vermin. The sobs whispered across the pitted stone.
And Moënghus was holding him, enclosing him, healing his innumerable scars.
“Nayu …”
He loved him … this man who had shown him, who had led onto the trackless steppe.
“I am dying, Nayu.” Hot whispers in his ear. “I need your strength …”
Abandoned him. Forsook.
He had loved only him. In all the world …
Weeping faggot!
The kiss was deep; the smell strong. His heart hammered. Shame bled from his every pore, skittered across his trembling limbs, and somehow ignited an even deeper ardour.
He breathed shuddering air into Moënghus’s hot mouth. The snakes twisted through his hair, pressed hard and phallic against his temples. Cnaiür groaned.
So unlike Serwë or Anissi. A wrestler’s clasp, firm and unyielding. The promise of surrender, of shelter in stronger arms.
He reached beneath his girdle, into his breeches …
His eyes leaden with ardour, he murmured, “I wander trackless ground.”
Moënghus gasped, jerked, and spasmed as Cnaiür rolled the Chorae across his cheek. White light flared from his gouged sockets. For an instant, Cnaiür thought, it seemed the God watched him through a man’s skull.
> What do you see?

>>17109533
>I talk about things I like. You talk about things you can't stand.
>>>/lgbt/

>>17109460
The chinkshit book I'm reading actually does that as a minor plot point i.e. conflicting truths spun by different governments as to how a certain island nation fell despite it's military power

>>17109578
>Weeping Faggot!

Bakker is such a fun read.

>>17102543
Taoyuan mountain village
Machine translated
Don’t (you) me

What are some fantasy novels that focus more on character development and managing the country? I enjoyed GOT (yes yes I'm a pleb) but I was left wanting more in terms of the politics. Dragons are fine and all but I'd love to read about how a king handles a famine or maybe a competing kingdom. I'm open to historical fiction as well.

>>17109632
Funny how Japan gets destroyed in every story

>>17106137
>imp lying I read Branman Sanderfan either

Is exploration fantasy a thing?

I'm looking for a jungle expedition story.

> 1 year time skip
> The Sibling is only warning Dalinar’s milf now

These fucking plot holes.

> Nau-Cayûti’s eyes gleamed like bared teeth in the gloom. This, Seswatha knew, was the look that had sealed the final heartbeat of so very many—Man and Sranc alike.

>>17107454
is there supposed to be sexual tension between the two?

I have read
>the expanse series thus far
>the southern reach trilogy and borne
>the three body problem trilogy
>blindsight and whatever the sequel was called
Am I a pleb? What else should I read?

>>17110377
>What else should I read?
Sword Art Online: Progressive

>>17105826
Can you even explain what's wrong with this?

>>17109460
Funnily enough, Robert Jordan does a fantastic job of portraying how information gets distorted, even soon after it happens. Through out the entirety of Wheel of Time you find out how many old legends were at best only partially true, or were originally about a totally different person a thousand years ago but somewhere along the line another character became the protagonist, and so on.

>>17110543
You need to be 18 to post here.

>>17110614
So that's a no?

off-topic but can anyone tell me how to disable to stupid fucking santa hats in the catalog?

>>17109976
Annihilation is a spooky expedition into a swamp.

>>17110543
Can yousa even explains whatsa matta wid dias?

Looking for the name of a sci-fi book about an event where the whole planet hears a voice. Presumably the word of god. The book deals with the aftermath of everyone hearing the voice

thanks

>>17110570
When exactly does that happen, I'm in book 7 and so far there's been only one real reveal the Aiel. Mostly it's a bunch of people saying "well that's not how it *really* happened".

>>17110377
also have read some classics like foundation and i,robot and fahrenheit 451

I liked the vandermeer books the most, any more like his?

>>17110377
>>17110942
Nice blog-post.

>>17111041
>being a toxic asshole
I bet you Sandersoy as well

>>17111084
>I bet you Sandersoy as well
What the hell? I wouldn't say that to my worst enemy.

Sorry, Ok? I didn't say that your blog-post was bad.

>>17110192
No, the guy's a pretty strong mormon.

>>17109976
There are travelogues if that's what you mean.

Is the dune trilogy worth getting into? I already read dune but I didn’t enjoy it as much because I read it on my phone like a fucking retard. Also anyone recommend me some beginner sci-fi

>>17111084
>rent free

>>17110048
>was injured by the shenanigans of their last bondsmith
>is now actively avoiding humans
What sort of causality even is this?!?

>>17108184
>>17104210
“You have been beasts!” Serwa snapped in irritation. “You have floundered in the muck of animal desire, choked on your own most destructive appetites, unable to do anything save gloat and exult. And now, absent the Meat, your soul is rekindled, you finally recall who you were … You awaken from your rutting nightmares … and lament.”
The assembled Lords of the Ordeal gazed aghast. Even the weepers fell silent.
“No …”
All eyes turned to Proyas, who stood baffled, not knowing from whence his words or voice arose aside from some perverse will to truth.
“This … this is no-no awakening,” he stammered, scowling, perhaps even sobbing. “The … the beast that committed … those—those atrocities—I am that monster! What I-I recall …”—a grimace—“I re-recall not as though from some dream, but as clearly as I remember any day I would call my own. I committed those deeds! I chose! And that”—a swallow to unscrew a rictus grin—“that is the horror, m-my Niece. That is the origin or our lament: the fact that we hang upon these foul-foul, heart-cracking deeds … that we, and not the Meat, are the author of our lunatic sins!”

>>17109574
I don't think you know what a rant or a white knight is, but please keep frothing and shitposting about how much even seeing his name makes you seethe.

>>17111305
This is how I know you didn't read the book.

>>17111313
>>17111305
>>17111293
The Sandersoy tranny is back.

>>17111322
Aw, you've been waiting ;^*
>>17111316
You usually have to actually point to some sort of evidence that I haven't read the book to make that sort of claim. "The literal plot of the book" is not that evidence.

>>17111337
You will never be a woman.

>>17110048
Yeah, I also noticed Raboniel should be hunting for Nightblood instead of invading the tower. And considering that one year has already gone by, the fused should know now that Nightblood kills them permanently.

>>17111347
You keep acting like I would want that. Are you projecting again? It occurs to me to tell you that da Nile is not just a river in Egypt!

>>17111281
The City and the Stars by Clarke

>>17111382
Dilate

>>17111368
>actively comments on how Szeth and the sword aren't there like they thought
Now who didn't read?

>>17111382
>>17111347
>>17111337
>>17111322
>>17111389
>>17111391

the Meat has taken the shitposters.

>>17111389
You first sweaty, I'm not even sure how that works. But you have a ton of examples, right? Saved to your hard-drive? Because you hate it so much?

>>17111400
Lose weight

>>17111391
>Now who didn't read?
Who the fuck are you quoting?

>>17111411
You got a regimen? You're full of suggestions but terribly unhelpful. No wonder all you do is camp the general and shitpost sanderfriends.

>>17111394
This is hilarious and pathetic at the same time.

Sandersoys always take the bait.

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It's Christmas, frens. Keep your silly flame warring out of the new thread, ya filthy animals.

>>17111424
That's a reference, not a quote, keep up newfag.

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I'm starting to think that this is actually you Brandon. Your comments actually look very similar to your shitty prose.

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Remind me how it's any different from having to REEEEEE anytime someone brings him up?

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>keep up newfag
cringe

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>I already read dune but I didn’t enjoy it as much because I read it on my phone like a fucking retard.
nigger that has nothing to do with why you dislike Dune, its simply not as amazing as everyone says it is

>>17111322
I'm pretty sure I'm the one who coined the term Sandersoy, glad to see other shitposters using it

Started reading Automatic Eve by Rokuro Inui today. It's Japanese steampunk with samurai, shoguns, mechanical bugs, humans and such.
It's fairly short(a bit more than 500 pages) so it's definitely worth checking out. I'll be finished with it in a day or so.

Reading Automatic Eve by Rokuro Inui, it's Japanese steampunk so it's pretty interesting, a bit more than 500 pages so I'll be finished with it pretty quickly. Just started it and it's good so far

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should have posted in the other thread my man