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Newton didnt even know where his mathematical principles came from, why they were true, or how they had any correlation to the physical world
Take newton's definition of force for example:
force is defined as F=ma, but he makes use of the term he is trying to define in his definition; in other words, newton's argument about force is circular
He assumed that there was some kind of automatic, intuitive relationship between experience and his ideas about mathematics, which there most certainly is not
Not only that, newton never once attempted to describe the mechanism that allowed him to create universal mathematical principles out of isolated instances of subjective experiences
and not only 100 years later, Hume called him out (rightly so) on his stupid assumptions about experience and perception.

>> No.17089732

>>17089715
The chad instinctual senses seeker vs the virgin model driven data analyst .

>> No.17089744

>>17089715
Could you please stop seething about Newton's gigantic incel cock?
I know your sad that you could never have it but it's been 293 years now.

>> No.17089748

>>17089715
I didn’t know we used Hume’s physics to create the modern era. Big wow, NASA owe him a big one.

>> No.17089781

>>17089748
kek

>> No.17089816
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>>17089744
The many great and terrible sins of Isaac Newton against God, one of which was

> Having uncleane thoughts words and actions and dreamese

>> No.17089817

>>17089816
what kind of schizo shit is this

>> No.17089831

>>17089816
stop judging, sinner.

>> No.17089835

>>17089817
He also thought the bible had secret messages hidden in it and would study it everyday so that he can determine what is was and when the world will end.

> “I have a fundamental belief in the bible as the Word of God, written by men who were inspired. I study the bible daily." - Isaac Newton

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>>17089835
Based Newton. Man of God he was.

>> No.17089848

>>17089715
Was he wrong tho?

>> No.17089852

>>17089844
Newton didn't have a sense of the scope of the universe. Nobody did in his time. The universe is big enough for pretty much anything to happen once, and we now suspect that planets in the Goldilocks zones of their stars might actually be pretty common.

>> No.17089857

>>17089852
>suspect
Data from many other solar systems confirm that

>> No.17089861

>>17089852
How big did they imagine the universe to be in Newton’s time?

>> No.17089888

>>17089861
About tree fiddy

>> No.17089892

>Eve ate the apple
>The apple proves grabity

Based

>> No.17089927

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>>17089852
>Nobody did in his time
>Giordano Bruno introduced in his works the idea of multiple worlds instantiating the infinite possibilities of a pristine, indivisible One. Bruno (from the mouth of his character Philotheo) in his De l'infinito universo et mondi (1584) claims that "innumerable celestial bodies, stars, globes, suns and earths may be sensibly perceived therein by us and an infinite number of them may be inferred by our own reason."

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>> No.17089961

>>17089939
>innumerable celestial bodies, stars, globes, suns and earths may be sensibly perceived therein by us and an infinite number of them may be inferred by our own reason."
What does this mean though? You seem to imply that means the predicted the existence of other galaxies, but it can may as well be that he meant we can imagine them, their forms, infinitely many times "by our own reason"

>> No.17089971

>>17089927
>>17089954
Meds. Now.

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>>17089971
They will call you a schizo for telling the truth...
Funny thing is, Sir. Isaac Newton was a genius...
You have 40 more years, enjoy it while it lasts...

>> No.17090022

>>17089961
Not the guy you're responding to but you're coping - Bruno did emphatically believe that there were other planetary systems (he didn't know what a galaxy is) and that the stars are of the same nature as our Sun with planets revolving around them just as there are planets revolving around the Sun. He did not believe that they are just figments of imagination

>> No.17090055

>>17089816
> “Calling Dorothy Rose a jade." (A “jade” was a “worn-out horse,” but when applied to women, it essentially meant “whore.”)
Holy Shit, how based can one man be.

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17090119

Was it a cruel twist of fate which birthed in an era heading towards apocalypse?
Or am I one of the lucky ones...

>> No.17090133

>>17089715
>Newton didnt even know
Much.
Nothing he said can be trusted. He didn't understand the nature of man's body was for reproduction with a woman so how can you trust his views on the universe?

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>>17090133
I'm afraid this is just cope.
Newton understood so much of this world at a time when his calculus was barley just being accepted.
He understood gravity, and light, astronomy, mathematics, and physics.
We accept these scientific contributions because they are useful, we can see them, predict them.
But his other predictions...we ignore them.
Why? Because we can't cope with them...deep down we know....he's right but we ignore.....look for the signs anons.

>> No.17090180

>>17090167
Newton wasnt even able to predict the stock market. Checkmate atiests.

>> No.17090194

>The Chad Theorizer vs. The Virginal ANALyst.
There is a reason we will forever celebrate Newton while their critics will be only a footnote.

>> No.17090199
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>>17090167
What would he think of our modern world filled with many professors of atheism?

>> No.17090232

>>17090199
He would instantly lose his mind with a cellphone.

>> No.17090244

>>17090133
t. coomer

>> No.17090280

>>17089844
>>17090199
all newton's achievements and this is the one thing you stupid fuckers latch on to
he would probably think, ah i see there has been 300 years of development since i last walked this earth. people have made many discoveries and i now see that i must reconsider my former statements. now tell me more about this thing called "pornhub".

>> No.17090313

>>17089852
People in his time routinely thought the universe to be infinite in spatial scope. If anything the current vulgate has it incredibly more limited by virtue of only consider a finite, if large and expanding, extension of it.

>> No.17090318

>>17090280
>pornhub is literally just like amendations to Newton's theories made by Einstein, if I make a big bundle out of disjointed processes that have nothing in common but happen at a similar time maybe and call it "progress" maybe I'll convince them that it's all good

>> No.17090327

>>17090244
Spastic. Newton was gay.

>> No.17090328

>>17090055
Spoiler: she was a jade.

>> No.17090339

You’re right. Newton was a brainlet. A random incel on 4chan is smarter than him. Waiting for the next Nobel Prize...

>> No.17090351

>>17090327
Another episode of "there are no voluntary celibates, only closet faggots".

>> No.17090353

>>17089744
He was voluntarily celibate though

>> No.17090411
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>>17090199
Of course there were atheist in Newton's day about in academia, these were probably the people best described as having done the first part of pic related but never getting to the second part.
This is natural since academia attracts mid-wits but the amount of atheists festering in academia now is a reflection of our society's spiritual debasement.
No doubt he would be incensed to see his modern-day counterparts turned away from God and instead turn towards debased atheism.
He got most of his inspiration and intuition from his esoteric theology but he would always, as any good scientist would, refrain from explaining his science in those terms.
He would therefore say, whenever he was explaining gravity or the universe, "Hypotheses non fingo".
This didn't mean he didn't have any hypotheses in mind but that he would not cite them (probably because they were based on a deeply religious foundation. The sort of cryptic knowledge he had been researching on his own)
Modern physicist are unable to do this but since most are atheist they just assume that their understanding of the universe, a supposedly purely rational one, is correct.
Newton would have known this to be a mistake, stemming, no doubt, from the sin of pride (which too runs rampant in Academia).
Just look at string-the*ry, which is a giant atheistic cope. It is a complete and utter failure as a description of the universe but people still devote their lives to it. They don't understand the principle embodied in "Hypotheses non fingo".
Newton knew that the universe was mysterious and would not readily reveal it's divine workings to man. Despite how some people might paint him, Newton didn't believe in an atheistic and ungodly, rational universe but a complex perfect logical universe which would nonetheless be incomprehensible to man in it's totality.

>> No.17090426

>>17089715
>force is defined as F=ma, but he makes use of the term he is trying to define in his definition; in other words, newton's argument about force is circular
That's not a circular argument.

>> No.17090443

>>17089715
>force is defined as F=ma, but he makes use of the term he is trying to define in his definition; in other words, newton's argument about force is circular
Are you trolling?

>> No.17090447

>He assumed that there was some kind of automatic, intuitive relationship between experience and his ideas about mathematics, which there most certainly is not
>Not only that, newton never once attempted to describe the mechanism that allowed him to create universal mathematical principles out of isolated instances of subjective experiences

Are you just making shit up? Newton wasn't satisfied with his framework either, and assumed that the theory of gravity was false. He literally did not assume any of the shit you've accused him of assuming

>> No.17090457

>>17089816
Reminder that he wrote these at 19. Would be interested to see what a list closer to his death would've looked like.

>> No.17090495

>>17089816
>Punching my sister
Pretty based.

>> No.17090558

>>17090351
>closet

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>>17089927
>>17089954
>>17089999
>>17090119
>>17090167
Why do I feel like you where just ironically shitposting at first but halfway through unironically started believing in what you were posting? Why do 4chan schizoposts always give me this feeling?

>> No.17090579

>>17090411
>his is natural since academia attracts mid-wits but the amount of atheists festering in academia now is a reflection of our society's spiritual debasement.
Academia up to the late 19th century was an association of scholars first. While many negative things can be said about the atmosphere created by such associations, it was made of legitimately intelligent people. The college midwits represented a smaller proportion then.
The considerable increase in popularity of academia since then (and its transformation into highschool 2.0) is the root cause of those changes.

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17090616

>>17090318
checkmate newton

>> No.17090659

>>17090579
Yes, everything you said was basically true anon.
I wanted to get across the idea that the amount of midwits back then was at a minimum because these associations were pretty much always elitist and weeded out a lot (though not all) of those people.
Like you said, it does not help that college is in the process of becoming Highschool 2.0. No doubt, a lot of the dimwits and pseuds lead to this process occurring (under the moral guise of some supposed need for a more inclusive higher education) because they resented having to actually do hard intellectual work.

>> No.17090674

>>17090616
kek

>> No.17091344

>>17089852
>>17090280
Religion of his type is not some arbitrary choice, the modern world would have no impact on it. Your assumption comes from not understanding religion and the arrogance of assuming intelligent men think the same as you do given the same information.

>> No.17091355

>>17091344
Nooo, he would have conformed with the socially suggested opinions of the day, and tweeted that black lives mattered.

>> No.17091509

>>17091344
True. I strongly doubt Newton would change his views on God even if he came to visit our modern world.

>> No.17091613

>>17091344
>Your assumption comes from not understanding religion
and your assumption comes from being a total fucking imbecile
go build your strawmen somewhere else

>> No.17091871

>>17091613
Not him but you're a retard who doesn't know what a strawman is. Please stop before you embarrass yourself further.

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>>17089816
>Peevishness with my mother
>With my sister

>> No.17093397

From Wikipedia:
>Newton was born three months after the death of his father, a prosperous farmer also named Isaac Newton. His father was described as a "wild and extravagant man". Born prematurely, young Isaac was a small child; his mother Hannah Ayscough reportedly said that he could have fitted inside a quart mug. When Newton was three, his mother remarried and went to live with her new husband, the Reverend Barnabus Smith, leaving her son in the care of his maternal grandmother, Margery Ayscough. The young Isaac disliked his stepfather and held some enmity towards his mother for marrying him, as revealed by this entry in a list of sins committed up to the age of 19: "Threatening my father and mother to burn them and the house over them."[2] Later on his mother returned after her husband died.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_life_of_Isaac_Newton
I think his mother's abandonment of him must of affected his opinion of women early on.
He was raised by his Grandparents and he hated his step-father. I would like to read some work that explores Newton as a person, he seems so interesting.

>> No.17093661

>>17090411
This is a pretty good take.

>> No.17093749

>>17090280
>now tell me more about this thing called "pornhub".
Stupid coomer.

>> No.17093759

>>17089732
FPBP

>> No.17093778

>>17090280
Honestly, you should just kys, you have nothing to add.

>> No.17093951

>>17089816
>>17089817
Newton was an honest man and confessed to his sins, lesser men are unable to do that.

>> No.17094275

>>17089732
FPBP

>> No.17094801

>>17090351

>> No.17094809

>>17090351
This is a universal truth, no?

>> No.17095099

>>17093951
It's true. We're all merely sinners.

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17095927

>>17089715

> says a bunch of shit about Newton
> will never amount to anything even close to Newton
> will never lift an entire world on your shoulders like Newton
> will never have beautiful hair like Newton

Take your whiny complaints and stuff them up your ass

>> No.17095972

>>17090576
It's just another phenomenon of 4chan, somewhat inexplicable.

>> No.17095986

>>17089732
>The chad instinctual senses seeker vs the virgin model driven data analyst .
thread/

>> No.17096042

Gender studies major says whaaaaattt?

>> No.17096066

>>17089732
This 100%

>> No.17097074

>>17089748
lmao

>> No.17097185

>>17089816
>21. A relapse
>22. A relapse
I know that feel

>> No.17097288

>>17097185
Same, I'm wondering what 19 year old Newton meant by that...

>> No.17097322

>>17089817
Literally too intelligent to have sex

>> No.17097425

I find it interesting that Newton was obsessed with alchemy and some of his theories and scientific findings were results of him dicking around in the field of alchemy. Also, his dog ruining all his alchemical findings seems a bit far-fetched.

>> No.17097433

>>17089715
Yes, anyone who has actually studied the development of classical mechanics understands that >>17090411 is right. Newton was famously silent when it came to causal explanations for the phenomenon his formalism describes. Nobody is denying that his insights were important, but understanding the distinction between truth and utility is vital to understanding the distinction between metaphysics and physics today. Ironically this is something most physicists and philosophers are aware of, but not laymen.

>> No.17097633

>>17097425
>dog
>far-fetched

>> No.17097721

>>17089844
>Newton is too dumb to recognise survivor’s bias
Are all religious people like this?

>> No.17097793

>>17090280
He was more of a theologian than anything, all his physics were gigs on the side. kys coomer

>> No.17097798

>>17089715
>>17089732
Based, this. Intuition leads all science, Op is a fag.

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eppur si muove

>> No.17097823

>>17089961
>What does this mean though? You seem to imply that means the predicted the existence of other galaxies, but it can may as well be that he meant we can imagine them, their forms, infinitely many times "by our own reason"
He literally says sensibly perceived, as in scientific and not "infinite spiritual worlds" which was the commonest idea to Christians. Far commoner than infinite physical worlds.

Just admit that the moral-philosophical and religious beliefs one has in life are not "refuted" by the causal development of science.

>> No.17097833

>>17095927
Based, this.

>> No.17097839

>>17089961
>gets called out for talking out of his ass
>proceeds to cope
not surprising in the least

>> No.17098081

>>17089852
>>17090280 (coomer kys)
>>17091613
cope faggots.
Newton was not as naive as you want to make him out to be.
You are just brainlet pseuds on the internet and he was a genius who contributed something that would forever change how we see the world.

>> No.17098175

>>17089748
The funny thing is the way Hume writes it's obvious that he thinks as highly of himself as if your post was unironic.

>> No.17098503

>>17095927
Fucking based

>> No.17098573

>>17094809
You're so far into coomerism that you consider having little willingness for sex impossible, when it fits what he did all of life. Instead, you make some conspiracy theory about him having an unsavory decadent sexuality.

>> No.17098578

>>17089732
Fpbp

>> No.17098586

>>17089852
The sheer number of things that had to happen to allow you to make this post is mind boggling. Better odds of having Shakespeare's complete works typed by a monkey.

>> No.17098656

where do I start with Hume?
what will I get out of him?

>> No.17099126

>>17097721
>Newton is too dumb
The very idea that you think you are smarter than Newton is astounding in its short-sightedness

>> No.17099696

>>17089844
>this guy supposedly had 190+ IQ

No chance, what a midwit brainlet