/lit/ - Literature

death is supposed to be a beautiful thing maybe idk?

it's a description of death, by BIlly Pilgrim. He says 'Everything was beautiful, and nothing hurt.'

who cares vonnegut is shit anyway

I always took it to be a sarcastic acceptance of the ugliness and pain of life.

>>1707049

Dear Quentin,

Get your head out of your ass. It is a fucking humanitarian ideal, that everyone would have a beautiful and painless life. Why don't you start learning about the fiction you read, instead of being idiotically uneducated. If you read Slaughterhouse and got nothing from it, you are not human.

>>1707120
>Why don't you start learning about the fiction you read, instead of being idiotically uneducated.
i'd rather read authors that were educated themselves and were not history revisionists like vonnegut.
see: the actual death tolls of the bombing of dresden

>>1707120
>If you read Slaughterhouse and got nothing from it, you are not human.
or maybe i just prefer literature with actual meaning instead of unachievable hippy bullshit

>>1707130

The exact number of deaths in the bombing of Dresden has unattainable. At that time during World War Two, Dresden was over-populated with refugees, in an unknown quantity. I do not remember what quantity he specified but that is now the point of the book, main ideas in the book have nothing to do with the quantity of dead in Dresden.

>>1707133

The beauty of Vonnegut is how frank he is. Slaughterhouse-Five is, to a degree, autobiographical, like the majority of his works. It is about the ravages of war on many different levels, Vonnegut's direct ideas from his own experiences of war. If you are okay with humans waging war and the deaths of uncountable civilians, that is your own problem. I will keep living in the real world.

>>1707139

has been* unattainable

not* the point of the book

I am so out of it.

>>1707130

Also, your post has nothing to do with your knowledge of Vonnegut and who he was. Why read, if you're not going to understand where the author is coming from, regardless of whether you agree with him or not?

>>1707139
>Alien planets and time travel
>autobiographical

>>1707148

I will not begin.

It means Kurt Vonnegut worried about the irreducible contradiction between is and ought.

>>1707148

>to a degree, autobiographical
>to a degree

>people believe the aliens actually existed

If there is something you don't understand it is beat dadaism as intended. that picture comes where? when he, for the first time, visits the tralfarmadorians?

>>1707139
>war vet
>hippie
>atheist
so what's so special about his life again? sounds like every other old man out there

Kurt Vonnegut was a good writer, one of the unique ones who hasn't had anyone the same beforeor since. The aliens existed, I don't know anyone would think they didn't.