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What is ideology?

>> No.17055920
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17055920

Everything

>> No.17055938

>>17055913
Marxist version of duh joos

>> No.17055942

>>17055913
the replacement of religion in the 21st ce

>> No.17055946

>>17055938
/thread

>> No.17056066 [DELETED] 

>>17055913
Protest ideology because youre mad that its ideology

This word rules his life

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>>17055920
>Has a picture of Stalin on his wall.
Pure Ideology.

>> No.17056351

>>17055913

In a zizekian sense, it's the subconscious structuring of reality. For example, the progressive idea that sexual expression is what'll lead us to the promised land, with a freer and fairer society. That is ideology.

>>17055942

"Politics is religion for those who have none" - Lord Acton

>> No.17056367

>>17055913
is he actually a coke head or are ya'll memeing again?

>> No.17056376

>>17055913
scum, plebs have two basic eternal questions: who is guilty and what to do. ideology gives answers, justifies.

example: bad guys are jews / capitalists, kill em, and world will be better.

>> No.17056379

Neo-Hegelianism with Slavic characteristics

>> No.17056398

He once used Pokemon Go as an analogy. Ideology is like a mental augmented reality screen which projects onto external affairs virtualized attributes that do not inhere in the world outside of it. Yet these ideological projections are no less effectual, we can all project the same things and respond to them as though they were really real. This is what he means by the reality of the virtual. The virtual representational overlay still causes us to act as though its objects were actual.

>> No.17056432

>>17055913
Ur mom

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>>17056367

>> No.17056462

and so on and so on

>> No.17056492

To oversimplify, for Ž ideology is the set of unconscious (not subconscious) ideas that structure the coordinates in which you think and act, what you consider to be possible, and so on. Ž’s big talking point here is that is often operates through fetishistic disavowal: you don’t even have to believe in whatever ideology, but act as if you believe nonetheless. To illustrate fetishistic disavowal Žižek gives the example of Bohr having a horseshoe above his door. Someone remarked on it, and he says “of course I don’t believe in that superstitious nonsense, but I’m told it works even if I don’t believe in it.” Ideology only really holds nowadays if you are blind to it, if you simply consider it natural, when you cannot even think other possibilities. Like with the pandemic the US government couldn’t even consider monthly stimulus checks to pay people to stay home like many other countries did. The only talk was about how best to keep businesses open. The blinding effect of ideology made it impossible for the country to effectively deal with the pandemic.

>> No.17056506

>>17055938
Damn it kinda do be like that

>> No.17056761

>>17056492

Is subconscious not just unconscious?

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>>17055913
ideology is you-look-like-this posting but for thinking.

>> No.17056973

>>17055913
Your GPS. Ideology is what you think in relation to how you view reality.

Aka a useless word

>> No.17056991

>>17056492
We could have just told all the old people to drown in a lake and then burn in hell

>> No.17057083

>>17055913
An accepted wide spread belief.

You can believe voting in the US will do something. You can believe not voting will do something. Despite different tactics, both believe interacting with the voting process will achieve something.

The non ideological option is not thinking about the voting process at all. Your actions aren't based on a belief that the voting process is an arena at all.

>> No.17057155

>>17056761
Subconscious evokes a substantial articulated realm of the psyche underneath what you’re consciously aware. Unconscious is only the gaps in your consciousness, what it doesn’t cover, it’s failure. Ideology doesn’t pull the strings behind the curtains, it is the curtains, covering the fact that there’s nothing behind it.

>> No.17057205

>>17056351
>subconscious structuring of reality
What does that actually mean though

>> No.17057231

>>17057155
beautiffuly said not sur if i understand it very well how can subconcious be articulated if it is not concious?

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Ideology in the Zizekian sense, as described here, just sounds like spooks. Ideas that control you instead of you controlling ideas. Letting the abstract determine how you concretely act. Am I correct?

>> No.17058670

>>17057155
I'm assuming the last sentence is from zizek considering it is textbook hegelian

>> No.17058691

>>17058599
I remember something I read in that Capitalist Realism book, so a second hand quote, that Zizek talked about how the ideology of capitalism allows the abstract to be one thing (e.g. money isn’t everything) in your mind, while acting in the total opposite (money being the central goal of people’s lives) in everyday action.
So just from that I wouldn’t say that the abstract controls the concrete in his conception of it, but the abstract excuses the concrete.
I welcome anyone to correct me but that is what I recall.

>> No.17058920

>>17058691
So in a sense, it attempts to absolve itself of its contradictions?

>> No.17058932

>>17055913
The same thing as the spectacle, manufacturing consent , and the hundreds of other variations of the same exact thing.

>> No.17059776

>>17055920
comfy interior design

>> No.17059826

>>17057205
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z5_uHOONNE