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1704726 No.1704726 [Reply] [Original]

You now realize that all that shit Lovecraft wrote about "demonic flutes" and "hideous piping" etc was actually about jazz

>> No.1704733

Yeah, biodigital jazz.

Also, check them doubles jazz.

>> No.1704743
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>>1704733

>> No.1704744

he didn't like black people

>> No.1704746
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>>1704726

NO. IT WAS ACTUALLY ULTRASONIC RESONANCES. REALLY.

>> No.1704766

>>1704726
so he and I see it the same way

wouldn't be the first time

>> No.1704771

>>1704744

black
people/

choose one

>> No.1704774

Did he actually say or do anything racist?

>> No.1704777

>>1704774
yes, but only a lot.

>> No.1704780

>>1704777
Do tell.

>> No.1704790

>>1704780
the cat named "nigger man" is my personal favorite
degenerate blacks
degenerate natives
degenerate Welsh
degenerate Germans
degenerate Slavs
degenerate Asiatics
degenerate urrbody not of pure Anglo ancestry

do I hold it against him? Nah, we're talking about some cracker writing out of 1920's New England. even today most people up there just think non-whites are something created backstage in television studios. Can't blame the fella, really.

>> No.1704795

>>1704790

He does deserve blame for writing boring ass stories.

>> No.1704800

>>1704795
YIKES!
You degenerate godless savage.

>> No.1704829

>>1704795

butthurt minority dectected

>> No.1704840

Definitely racist. "The Horror at Red Hook" is about people living in slums degenerate to sub-human primates summoning ancient evil. The population is referred to as a "hopeless tangle of syrian, spanish, italian, and negro elements" THE WORST OF THEM ALL!!

>> No.1704843

>>1704840

Of course he was a racist. So was his penpal bumchum Robert Howard, which is why Conan is always beatig on the black man.

Everyone was racist then - it was the consensus position of intellectuals everywhere (in the states, anyway, less of an issue in Yerp). Just like in the 1930s, everyone was an antisemite, and in the 1960s-now everyone in academic/literary life is a liberal.

So what? Lovecraft didn't like black people. What now?

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AND THEN SUDDENLY OUR PROTAGONIST IS FACED BY AN ELDRITCH NAMELESS HORROR FROM THE DEEP WHICH IS SO HORRIBLE THAT I CANNOT POSSIBLY BE BOTHERED TO DESCRIBE IT OR IT WAS INVISIBLE OR SOMETHING I DUNNO. BEST MENTION TENTACLES
AND THEN THERE WAS AN ELDRITCH SMELL
AND THEN AN ELDRITCH NOISE
ANYWAY IT'S A GOOD THING EVERYONE ON THIS ENTIRE EXPEDITION, INCLUDING THE FUCKING JANITOR, HAS READ THE NECRONOMICON (YOU KNOW, WRITTEN BY THE MAD ARAB WHATS HIS NAME. I HAVE TO MENTION THIS EVERY SINGLE TIME I REFERENCE THE DAMN BOOK) AND KNOWS IT BY HEART EVEN THOUGH THE ONLY COPY IS KEPT LOCKED UP IN THE UNIVERSITY
OH GOD I'M SUCH A FUCKING HACK I CAN'T WRITE FOR SHIT AND NO ONE WANTS TO PUBLISH ME APART FROM PENNY DREADFULS. HOPEFULLY WHEN MY FAGGOT ASS IS DEAD AND BURIED A MASSIVE PACK OF RETARDS WILL GO MENTAL OVER MY MEDIOCRE DRIVELINGS AND GET ASSMAD OVER ANY CRITICISM AT ALL

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>>1704869
Has my boy made you...

incensed?

>> No.1704904

>>1704843
>Everyone was racist then
Most people thought non-whites had at least some qualities though, even blacks. How else do you explain the relatively liberal immigration policies of the time?

There are no good darkies in Lovecraft. There are no good Mediterraneans, Slavs or Jews either. In "Beyond the Wall of Sleep" he goes on about this descendant of Dutch colonists from the Catskill mountains and how he "corresponds exactly" with the white trash of the South. Seriously, there are tolerant people and then there's Lovecraft.

>> No.1704916

>>1704904

I'm pretty sure black immigration was over by that time to be honest. Unless you accept Chris Rock's argument that the journey's so long there are still slave ships en route...

>> No.1704923

>>1704904
There are no good females in his stories either. Doesn't mean he didn't have a (jewish) wife. Really, I think if he didn't grow up so sheltered and poor, he'd be a lot more tolerant. He certainly didn't approve of Hitler, racism or no.

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>>1704869

It's a shame you can't understand his narration, bro. You're really missing out.

Maybe this is more up your alley.

>> No.1705123

>>1704923
He didn't approve of Hitler because Hitler was german and our boy was an anglophile. Nothing to do with his political views. Had Hitler been british, he would've been all over him.

>> No.1705127

He got slightly less crazy racist as time went on, but yeah, he was pretty bad. Like, really bad. The thing about jazz isn't surprising. The dude seems like a real-life Roderick Usher.

>> No.1705138

>>1704843
lol no, to call Robert Howard a racist you probably didn't read his stories. He wasn't politically correct, but neither racist.

>> No.1705140
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Anna Pavlovna's reception, DARK AS AN IMPIOUS DEPTH was in full swing. The SPINDLES OF FAITH hummed steadily and ceaselessly on all sides LIKE A MONOTONOUS INCANTATION OF PAGAN PRIESTS, REVILING THE GODS ANCIENT AS THE LIFE ITSELF. With the exception of the aunt, beside whom sat only one elderly lady, who with her thin careworn face THAT RESEMBLED ANTIQUE DEPICTIONS OF THE MOTHER GODDESS WHOSE BLACK HAIR TWINE AROUND THE BODY was rather out of place in this brilliant society, the whole company had settled into three groups. One, chiefly masculine, had formed round the abbe FROM ARKHAM. Another, of young people, was grouped round the beautiful Princess Helene, Prince Vasili's daughter, and the little Princess Bolkonskaya, very pretty and rosy, though rather too plump for her age AND WITH THE LAUGHTER AWAKING IN THE GUESTS CYCLOPEAN VISIONS OF APOCALYPTIC IN THEIR MYSTIC ABOMINATION COSMIC ABSOLUTES. The third group was gathered round MORTEMART and Anna Pavlovna.

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>>1705140
The vicomte was a nice-looking young man, A CENTRAL ASIAN NATIVE with soft features and polished manners, who evidently considered himself AN ENVOY OF THE PERILOUS FOR HUMAN BEINGS CULT THAT ANTICIPATED THE ADVENT OF THE OLD GODS FROM THE STARS but out of politeness modestly placed himself at the disposal of the circle in which he found himself. Anna Pavlovna was obviously serving him up as a treat to her guests. As a clever maitre d'hotel serves up as TRANSCENDENT-ESCHATOLOGICAL a piece of meat that no one who had seen it in the FILTHY AS UNDERGROUND VAULTS OF AUSTRALIA kitchen would have cared to eat, so ON THIS UNNATURAL IN ABHORRENCE OF EVERYTHING HUMAN EVENING Anna Pavlovna served up to her guests, first the vicomte and then the abbe FROM ARKHAM, as SOMETHING PRETERNATURAL FOR A HUMAN CONSIOUSNESS. The group about MORTEMART immediately began discussing the murder of the Duc d'Enghien, THAT WAS TURNED INTO STONE INSTANTLY AFTER HE HAD READ FORBIDDEN IMPRECATIONS OF THE IMMEMORIAL WORSHIPS OF THE EAST FROM THE ALZAHRED'S MANUSCRIPTS. The vicomte said that the Duc d'Enghien had perished by his own, OFFENSIVE TO THE MORAL AND THE NATURE'S LAWS, CURIOSITY, and that there were particular reasons for GHATANATHOA'S hatred of him.

>> No.1705147

i'm ok with that, jazz sucks anyway

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>>1705146
"An, flag'h k'ata man'd won!" said Anna Pavlovna, with a pleasant feeling that there was something in the sound of that sentence: "Ye! The Goat with a thousand Young!"

The vicomte bowed and smiled courteously WITH HIS ONLY EYE, ABLE TO MADDEN AND PUT TO PANIC ROUT A WHOLE VILLAGE OF THE NORTH AMERICAN INDIANS. Anna Pavlovna arranged a group round him IN THE FORM OF THE OCCULT CIRCLE, inviting everyone to listen to his tale.

"Gla'tia az l'erhu," whispered Anna Pavlovna to of the guests. "Alharezd glui w'dan," said she to another. "Yea, kltwan," said she to a third; and the vicomte was served up to the company in the choicest and most advantageous style, like a BLAZING WITH THE BLASPHEMOUS DARKNESS CYCLOPIC OBELISK, WHICH GRANDEUR OVERSHADOW ALL THE PROGRESS OF OF THE MANKIND.

>> No.1705177

dundundundun, suddenly errybody's crazy