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Famous philosophers and their procreation status

Plato - gay nigga
Epicurus - no kids
Epictetus - no kids
Shankaracharya - no kids
Averroes - no kids
Avicenna - no kids
Aquinas - no kids
Spinoza - no kids
Kant - no kids
Hume - no kids
Kierkegaard - no kids
Schopenhauer - no kids
Nietzsche - no kids
Wittgenstein - gay nigga
Sartre - no kids
Cioran - no kids
Foucault - gay nigga

>> No.17035028

you're on to something here anon

>> No.17035035

Socrates had kids
Cicero did too

>> No.17035046

>>17035035
socrates also had a taste for twinks. idk about cicero

>> No.17035092

It does make sense that people who eschew the natural meaning in life would need to spend their entire life trying to find alternative meanings.

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>>17035092
wasn't ready for this blackpill

>> No.17035106

>>17035022
Raising kids takes a lot of time; those who have kids are going to have a tough time balancing raising them with making gigantic leaps in philosophy.

>> No.17035112

what the fuck? I love mens butts now.

>> No.17035233

>>17035105
If it's any consolation, it could be argued that having children is not the meaning in life, either, but rather that there is no inherent meaning in life at all and that having children simply provides the satisfaction of having found meaning, although it doesn't inherently provide it.

To show this, consider the reasons to say that having children is the meaning in life -- namely, that is what our biology has programmed us to want to do, right? That's not entirely correct, though. We haven't been programmed to want children, we've just been selectively bread for characteristics that result in having (healthy, longliving, fertile) children. Now, if the evolutionary process were able to perfectly hone in on this, then every human instinct would align with this goal of progeny. But the process is not perfect, and the world is changing faster than we can evolve. That means that instincts that developed as a means of having and raising one's own children are applied elsewhere. For instance, adoptive parents have the same benefits as biological parents with regards to parenting, in spite of there being no biological incentive for adoptive parents to raise children with whom they have no genetic connection. This fact indicates that meaning in life, or the perception of meaning, does not necessarily have to be attached to the actual act of spreading your genetics, even if that is the ideal that evolution pushes us towards. In seems likely, though, that given these instincts that push us towards parenthood, meaning in life will still be found nearby -- through family and relationships, love, compassion for others, selflessness, and so on -- rather than through antisocial behavior and isolation.

>> No.17035439

>>17035233
>We haven't been programmed to want children
You've fallen right into the nature's tricky illusion with this one.
If we haven't been, then we wouldn't feel the sexual urges as much.

>> No.17035447

>>17035022
Hegel had kids though

>> No.17035662

>>17035439
read my post again. The reason sexual urges have been selected for is because stronger sexual urges leads to more children. But that's just the evolutionary reason this trait was selected for. That's not actually anything your body explicitly cares about -- to your body, they're just sexual urges with no inherent meaning. They can be gratified even in the absence of procreation.

>> No.17035675

>>17035022
What lack of pussy does to mfs

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>>17035675