/lit/ - Literature

Imagine being butthurt over a philosopher's concept that didn't resonate with you (mostly because you didn't get it), so you go look for shit from his life to make yourself feel better. His life dnt matter no more, yet his mind is still relevent.

You FUCKING IGNORANT CUNT.

>>17030141
You will never be a woman

>>17030147
You will never be a Christian

what mother doesn't hate her son to some degree
or is that just me bros

>>17030060
>of wanting to improve and master what you cannot command
Looks like momma Schoppy was a stoic

>>17030179
So she was a midwit?

>>17030195
no you twit

Johanna Schopenhauer was a rather successful novelist and a free love Weimar slut. After she pushed him down the stairs during an argument Arthur told her she would only be remembered through him, then never spoke to her again.

>>17030488
Basado

>>17030488
It's no wonder he ended up the way he did with such a family.

The only thing I dislike about Schopenhauer is his approval of B*ddhism

>>17030488
Basically a 19th Century Debbie Mathers.

>>17030488
>After she pushed him down the stairs during an argument Arthur told her she would only be remembered through him, then never spoke to her again.
>he was right

>>17030607
What a man. Wish I could teleport him into modern day Frankfurt and see what he thinks of the place

>>17030161
Good

>>17030710
>the will is never satisfied

>>17030710
What would he think of this?

>>17030060
>insufferable incel
>pessimistic insect
You haven't read Schopenhauer, shut the fuck up.

>>17030060
based and rekt how will he recover bois

>>17030564
Shopenhauer’s whole philosophy was just a western version of buddhist realizations without the enlightenment. How the fuck couldn’t he support it?

>>17030166
Mothers usually hate their daughters to certain degree and tend to be more loving of their sons.

>>17030060
>incel
this word has become so overused. schopenhauer had numerous affairs with women, you could find that out by skimming his wikipedia article

>>17030488
>After she pushed him down the stairs
What's up with the Schopenhauer family's fixation on pushing people down the stairs?

>>17032099
He was rejected by most women and couldn't find a wife, and the romantic relations he did have were dysfunctional

>>17030488
He was right about her, but she was right about him

>>17031583
neither have you brojob

>>17030060
>t.ignorant readlet

God I fucking hate women, My mom did that shit with me daily.

>REEE CONFORM!!! MY SUBMISSIVE STUNTED COWARDLY WOMAN WISDOM IS WHAT YOUR BRAVE PASSIONATE MALE SOUL NEEDS TO EXPRESS ITSELF!!

Literally fuck off you fucking waste

>>17032231
Nobody cares if you don't conform, dumb-dumb. Just stop acting like an oh-so-enlightened, insufferable pseud in public. That's all you have to do.

>>17030060
His mom was very bitchy and rather unpleasant. Even Goethe scolded her on one occasion for how badly she treated Arthur.

>>17032161
Why are you so obsessed with the romantic life of philosophers? The point is the word "involuntary celibate" is misused when applied to him, no matter how "dysfunctional" his affairs were.

>>17032327
It's a matter of manhood to literally ignore the shrieking harpy cries of women and plebs that you're crossing boundaries or being too brave or smart etc and just keep working toward your goals regardless. Nobody should have to explain this to you.

Schopenhauer wasn't the only thinker who got letters like this from family or others, innovators far more incredible get completely rejected by the herd. Even complete dunces get to retain their dignity and find success by not kneeling to such petty trifles. Fuck off.

>>17030060
>Life is bliss and a miracle.

>>17032388
Based as fuck

>>17030060
His mom was a midwit.

If he op loves his mothers tits so much why does he eat so many hamburgers.

>>17032161
are you the midwit known as alain de botton?

>>17032161
Oh no, such an intelligent mind didn't want to have his creative potential constraines by a nagging bitch! Wow what an incel, he really was missing out on being screeched at 24/7 by 92 IQ bimbos, shame he used his life to produce great works of intellect instead of that.

>placing value in the opinions of women
>especially the opinions of women that are self-evidently wrong

>>17032161
womanizing bachelor =/ incel

test post.

>>17030488
And he was right. From Wikipedia:
>Johanna Schopenhauer (née Trosiener; July 9, 1766 – April 17, 1838) was the first German woman to publish books without a pseudonym, an influential literary salon host, and in the 1820s the most famous female author in Germany. In these days, she is known primarily for being the mother of the philosopher Arthur Schopenhauer.
>she is known primarily for being the mother of the philosopher Arthur Schopenhauer

>>17030710
Frankfurt us the biggest shithole in Europe.

Johanna was right about Arthur and Arthur was right about Johanna.

>>17030060
She has the same writing style as him

>>17032411
Is that how fast food chicken nuggets are made?

>>17032693
What if the plot twist is that Arthur himself wrote that letter in moment of insanity?

>>17032231
>>17032388

Who was Schopenhauer's mother?
>know Weimar's slut
>made Schopenhauer's father literally kill himself when Arthur was a child
>kicked out Schopenhauer from her place when he was a student looking for lodgings because he had an argument with her boyfriend
>constantly badmouthed Schopenhauer to Goethe to the point Goethe became distant
Chances are if Schopenhauer had a different mother, "On Women" would have been a very different essay. What a fucking cunt

>>17033004
All woman are innately sub-human anon.

bump

>>17032411
Yes, it is.

>>17032411
How would he know the surge of Fordian capitalism? Don't be anachronistic

>>17030060
I take her point, no one likes a know-it-all. Especially when he's a loser in other ways, yeah it would be annoying to be made to feel intellectually inferior when it's like "you don't even fuck bro, and I make more money than you." But if he's smart enough to make people seethe just by having an opinion, all is justified.

She was his mother. If he turned out that way it is her fault.

>>17033004
Totally. Taking her side is like blaming Eminem for putting out Cleaning out my Closet joint.

>>17032411
Yes anon, this is how meat is created.
And it's very yummy.

>>17033601
kys carnist.

I really hate how people use incel these days, its thrown towards everything, its practically meaningless word now.

God bless moms all around the world

>>17032411

I think it's clear to see that they're both based. The final redpill is to understand the necessity of terrible women in order to create overachieving men

>>17032411
To be fair, this kills the chicks almost instantly and is likely far less painful (cutting their nervous system to pieces before it can even register anything) than more drawn-out methods used for other animals. It just looks bad.

>>17032411
>wahhh animals with no conception of suffering are being killed you should throw away every human achievement ;(((
I'd stuff you in that meat blender if I could.

>>17034092
Who are you quoting?

>>17033601
Most good meat is not created like that. Chicken nugget is trash-tier meat.

>>17032044
>Mothers usually hate their daughters to certain degree and tend to be more loving of their sons.
Can confirm

Schopenhauer isn't meant to be taken literally, you complete imbeciles.
He's meant to be raw material to you to digest and then process into propely understanding and tackling the darker aspects of life, he's a fundational block, there's a reason why some of the most important political discourse in recent history started off as a response to his considerations about human existence.

I swear to god this is one of the worst boards on 4chan.
You're all constantly waiting for someone to tell you exactly how to live and follow his creed to a T.

>>17032330
>Even Goethe scolded her on one occasion for how badly she treated Arthur.
Based. Someone should draw large-chested Goethe defending helpless little Schop.

>>17030060
based mamma telling it how it is

>>17032044
People in general, at least heterosexual people, tend to be more loving towards people of the opposite sex.

>>17034199
>People in general, at least heterosexual people, tend to be more loving towards people of the opposite sex.
It doesn't quite explain 4chan and the love of the fathers for their sons.

>>17034221
I think fathers tend to love their daughters even more than their sons, though perhaps it's just a different sort of love.

>>17030060
Imagine thinking you are capable of a Schoop thread, but don't know he wasn't an incel. Keep advertising your ignorance. Optimism is cowardice.

>>17034228
I think the love of the father for the son is a projection of self-love. The father love his male child because he sees him as an extension of himself. In a sense, his boy is his project of immortality.

>>17034221
Repressed homosexuals.

>>17033004
Riddle me how she could be a Weimar Slut 100 years before Weimar Germany existed?

>>17034221
4chan is full of repressed homosexuals and sour grapes misogynists.

>>17034277
>Repressed homosexuals.
Actually, in a sense, I think they're too manly for their own good. They wanna fuck but they can't take too much bitch's bullshit while the other guys
know how/are willing to play along.
It's not so different from the view of some rappers regarding women. The thing is: they fuck them all the same while still hating them hoes.
Most great men throughout history didn't care (too much) for "muh feels" of their wives. It used to be a relation based more on duty than on pleasure.
At least, that's what I get reading, Plutarch: Alexander and Caesar.

>>17034280
Weimar classicism was Germany’s humanist/romantic movement during the enlightenment, named for the city where most of its intellectuals lived (and fucked each other). Dumbass.

>>17034364
Which isn't something that really existed in any true form and should just be thrown in with Romanticism.
But assuming that it existed that was not a particularly 'bohemian' movement, and if anything was opposed to the atomistic nature of such ideas. So that doesn't fit with your insult either.

Weimar Slut brings imagery if the supposedly 'degenerate' republic and referring to it as an insult is reliant on such things very obviously.
Like talking about the 'Vichy French' and actually referring to a some restaurants in the city a hundred years earlier.

>>17034489
The city of Weimar existed at least since the year 899. I don't know why you feel such a need to simp for Frau Schopenhauer.

>>17034502
Because this is an insult based on getting the mind space of the those that hate the Wiemar Republic, and then using that as a channel for your second hand anger at some guy's mother not liking his legendarily unlikable personality.
Especially when there isn't anything there to call her a 'slut' from. Including not her place in the German Romantic movement.
This 'simping' meme is genuinely moronic.

>>17034536
Dear retard, they lived in the city of Weimar (prominent for its literary movement), and Johanna, being a widow and a socialite, was not exactly a saintly nun. Now proceed to simp for a woman who died centuries ago.

>>17034536
psychotic

>>17034572
Dear retard, I know you are sad that your hero, German Buddha without any of the actually valuable parts, was disliked by even his mother.
But that is because he deserved it and was an unpleasant person to be around.
Attacking his mother doesn't make him any more interesting of a philosopher and it doesn't make him any more of a functional person.
>>17034581
Same goes to you.

>>17034600
So you are not simping for his mother, you are just seething at him. Honestly I don't know why he makes some people seethe so much, even after being largely forgotten. I wish you peace of mind.

>>17032151
It runs in the family

>>17034628
No, just annoyed at followers of people that were largely disliked for good reasons, trying to make them out to be anything other than unpleasant people by attacking their functional 'enemies'. That its 'the based blackpiller Schopenhauer' makes it funnier for me, but its largely incidental.
Especially when this is done by stitching together irrelevant details in an attempt to find something to attack those 'enemies' with.

>>17034600
seething

>>17034657
I don't doubt he was a disagreeable person. I don't see anyone in this thread claim that he wasn't. But the fact that his mother was less than loving is something pronounced even in the academic literature. His biographers usually draw a link between his misogyny and his mother being cold and unloving towards him, even as a child. Schopenhauer is much more than the meme "based blackpilled sadman" though. If you've only read his provocative essays, there is a depth of thought waiting to be discovered in his more serious works.

>>17034536
Not the guy you're arguing with but I got >>17030488 from Durant's Story of Philosophy (1926), where he all but says dear mother Schopenhauer moved to Weimar to slut it up.

>>17030488
Based, Schop (pbuh) was once again proven right in his assessment of w*men
>Women are directly fitted for acting as the nurses and teachers of our early childhood by the fact that they are themselves childish, frivolous and short-sighted; in a word, they are big children all their life long—a kind of intermediate stage between the child and the full-grown man, who is man in the strict sense of the word. See how a girl will fondle a child for days together, dance with it and sing to it; and then think what a man, with the best will in the world, could do if he were put in her place.

>retarded narcissistic woman projecting as usual
>renowned philosopher
Gee, I wonder which one I should trust.

>>17034124
confirmed

>>17030488
Regarding the fourfold root of the principle of sufficient reason, she asked him ironically: is it about botany?

>>17034136
>Schopenhauer isn't meant to be taken literally
Yes he is. That's why he wrote a concrete post-Kantian philosophical system. Now fuck off with your interpretation that is so bad it reminds me of rousseaus take on machiavelli.

>>17030060
Schop would have fallen under the label of "1" on the enneagram personality list.

>>17035255
He seems more like a 5w4 though.

>>17033601
>>17034109
That's done because chickens are bred either for meat or eggs. Male chickens obviously aren't good for eggs, but they aren't viable to be grown for meat either, since they're outperformed by chickens bred for meat. So they're sexed right after hatching and killed

>>17030488
And he was right.

>>17030488
Unequivocally based

>>17030141
The life of a philosofer is important. I aint getting advice on how to live by a fuckin incel

>>17033601
YUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMMMMMMMYYYYYY FOODS

>>17036716
T. Schopenhauer's mother

>>17035122
Based Stacy

>>17030806
Sure Frankfurt has some nice buildings but between rampant homelessness and many business owners having to pay protection money to various clans, the city's not without its issues

>>17034136
yes faggot, that is why he wrote a 1000 page long autistic journey which should include most of his beliefs and the way he thinks the world should be handled
if he wanted to be interpreted he could have had written poetry, you fucking faggot. A reasin why Das Welt als Wille und Vorstellung is a brick is so that we can stone faggots like you to death. Go and read some rupi you gay fucking nigger

>>17031811
>has a dog named atman
>buddhist

>>17034221
I hate my son

>>17030141
hey Will Durant

>>17030060
She was projecting because she didnt get grandkids from him

Just another bitch

>>17033601
Chicken tenders? A favorite of mine.

>>17030488
She pushed him down the stairs during an argument? What is going on in that family's life? Are all German families like this?

>>17030488
Well he isn't wrong

>>17041302
It's a white people thing.

>>17041302
>Are all German families like this?
Yes we are, I've pushed my mother down the stairs twice already today, and it's only 12am.

>>17032044
This

>>17034199
Unless they are bitter people and sad about their life in which their sadness turned into anger

>>17034260
Based

>>17030564
what's so awful about buddhism

>>17034277
>>17034285
>any form of affection or even mere interest is immediately assumed to be sexual
The absolute state of /lit/.
>>17034260 or >>17034345 are already more cogent.

>>17041669
Did you have to help her up the stairs after the first time?

>>17030060
You don't have to share his pessimism to find the perspective illuminating, any more than you must buy Leibniz whole to build something meant to last, whether it succeeds as such or not.
>>17030166
Some of us were favorites of both parents, though discretion in the matter shows the strain: It's not as if it was a secret to my sisters, who are now more free to lash out about the discrepancy than they ever were when our parents lived. And while it's a late and correspondingly minor complaint, as a kid I could foresee it coming, through the witchcraft Lucy Van Pelt practiced on Linus, and other warnings on the harpy theme--for instance the one Cordelia gives Lear, a little too late, about those other two.

>>17030060
she was underfucked and wanted sex, apparently.

>>17034046
Still, it's not really about this particular thing. It should remind you of all the horribleness and suffering that does exist that proves life isn't "bliss and a miracle"

>>17030060
>Life is bliss and a miracle.
Faggot.