/lit/ - Literature

Why is modern fantasy literature so fucking bad? I don't get this feeling when playing games or watching movies but when reading a book it's like I'm reading the author's LSD trip they took.

>We did this, she thought. When Eshonai first returned from the human lands, she spoke to Awe about the grand creations of the humans. But we did things like this too. We had cities. We had art. We had culture.
Parshmen wuz kangs n shieet
>>17020349
I don't know what you mean by that. What's the worst example of this LSD trip phenomenon?

Tfw no witch gf

books need more sexy milfs

>>17020367
>I don't know what you mean by that. What's the worst example of this LSD trip phenomenon?
Disregard that, I suck dicks. Now that I think about it most of the fantasy books that I read were high fantasy that dials the "fantasy" past 10. I'll just stick to comfy low fantasy.

>>17020298

>>17020349
Because time hasn't weeded out the garbage yet.

>>17020412
Ok I kinda see what you mean, although for me even when there's fantastical elements I generally don't feel disoriented at all as long as the plot is consistent. Plus I drop anything that is I don't like and forget it pretty quickly. Pic related was pretty strange in a good way though, at least some parts of it like the Hell sequence of the second book. Still have to buy this guy's last book before he quit writing, I remember not being able to get it in '13 because it was only published in the UK or some shit

>>17020498
*that is too weird for me or I don't like

Can I talk about LitRPG here?

alright guys, I'm a cringe reddit normie consumer, and I'm looking for a new series, recommend me something
I want something with tons of books, with more on the way, because I'm also basically autistic and hate trying new things, so I just want one think to last me like 20 years. I would go with Game of Thrones, but that's never gonna happen and I dont need the literary blueballs.
Right now I'm kinda interested in Warhammer/WH40k, and the Gotrek & Felix series is nice and long (also omnibuses are cheap on ebay), plus there is an entire universe in the same setting, so tons of room to branch out while still utilizing my knowledge of the setting.
Another series on my radar is The Dark Elf Trilogy by R.A. Salvatore, which also has a lot of spinoff books in the same universe.
Looking for any feedback or recommendations at all. Currently the only series I've read are Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings (yeah, I know, I already said cringe reddit), so really basically everything is open to me.

Now that I've typed it all out, II guess I'm looking for a book series that resembles American comic books.

>>17020597
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B082WD9LCQ?notRedirectToSDP=1&ref_=dbs_mng_calw_0&storeType=ebooks

Hope you like monster girls.

Fuck E William Brown's Coof

wikidiving >>> reading modern fantasy

how do you feel about space cats?

>>17020693
books 7 and 8 must be the lowpoint

>>17020787
Well, they both got 5/5 star rating.

>>17020517
No one would be able to stop you regardless.

> We are a board of lovers

>>17020298
Majo no Tabitabi is one of the worst anime I've ever seen. This review nails why it's shit:
https://myanimelist.net/reviews.php?id=361108

>>17020693
Anything like this that's super edgy? It's nice that people are writing coomer fantasy but it all kinda seems like the same stuff I could get from the asians, generic self-insert harems.

>>17021056
>Majo no Tabitabi is one of the worst anime I've ever seen
Watch more anime. Also
>mal review

>>17020597
bakker's second apocolypse and gene wolfe's solar cycle

>>17021109
Majo no Tabitabi is 100% trash.
"Imagine a Mushishi episode like this:
The episode begins with Ginko on the road, having an inner monologue about how he is the most talented and successful mushishi in the country. He arrives at a new village, introduces himself as a mushishi, and asks if there are any people around with seemingly-supernatural troubles. He gets directed to a house of a family of four. He examines those people and they express some dire, obviously mushi-related symptoms. Concerned, they ask if he knows what is happening to them. Ginko replies, “Idk, let me sleep on that.” He walks around browsing local attractions for a few hours, eats free dinner, and stays the night at the family’s house. The next morning Ginko wakes up only to discover four corpses that, like, have turned into plants or something. He comments out loud, “Lol, what a bunch of losers,” rummages through cupboards for any food that will keep, packs up his bags, and walks away while whistling a tune. The end.
This is how an average Majo no Tabitabi episode plays out."

I bought a classic Gene Wolfe book, The last two books of Book of the Long Sun. Bookdepository has been processing it for a whole month.
Have I been jewed lads?

Only people with a BDSM fetish would like Majo no Tabitabi. The main female lead is a dominatrix in mentality. It is a sick weeb anime.

WAIT, NOOO, NAVANI STOOOOP, AAAAAAAARH I'M BLIND

Recommend me some of the most ethereal fantasy/sci-fi books that you know of.

>>17021148
Yes. The most vehement complaints are always that it's Mushishi or Kino no Tabi, but in a flavor they don't like. Sucks for you I guess, but /lit/ is not the place to air out those particular grievances

>>17021196
Lud-In-The-Mist

>>17020349
the books in elder scrolls games are good

>>17021209
For me, it's A Dance in Fire.

https://elderscrolls.fandom.com/wiki/A_Dance_in_Fire,_Book_I

Besides Night Land, what are so good "last bastion of mankind" type stories?

>>17020787
>>17020816
don't fall down the rabbit hole of trashy amazon books. just enjoy the silly cover art.

>>17020517
sure, explain the appeal to me

>>17021272
Too late, I already bought the first book.

>>17021154
You just reminded me of trying to buy stickers for my car on /o/. The answer is yes.

>>17019323
Speaker of the Dead has always been my favorite of the Ender books and all of Card's work.

>>17021360
Good god. It says 15 days for processing for my country. I'm going to give them the benefit of doubt because of covid since they do mention affecting times. I'll wait a bit longer before contacting them. I'm actually thinking they don't have stock since it's a rarer series. I want to buy Wolfe's Sidon books though and now I'm scared of being jewed even more.

>>17021196
The Night Circus

>>17021360
How did I remind you of stickers anon?

>>17020597
I highly recommend Salvatore. Yes, his setting is literally a D&D campaign. Yes, he's clearly not technically the best writer, but his character work is excellent and the fight sequences are unparalleled. Plus, you can literally spend years plowing through his backlog, there's a fuckton of just mainline Drizzt books.

>>17021692
>pay for anime sticker
>never get anime sticker
A tale as old as time.

recommend me some excellent xianxi (仙侠) english translations please.
preferably with female protagonists, magic and spirituality . . . mood like pic rel.

>>17020298
speaking as a jew, I wish this was a thing. even if magic isn't real it would mean we'd have more mythology to work with than golems and 3000 years of oral tradition that have been variously misappropriated by christians, muslims, and in lillith's case hot topic

I'm telling you, I've been trying to create some jewish fantasy shit for a dnd setting and it takes entirely too much fucking digging through obscure religious lore to make something unique.

>>17021488
speaker is an interesting story but was the only one who was bothered how painfully forced Ender's relationship with Novinha was? I got the impression that Card was embarrassed of how much of his pedarestry he'd accidentally poured into ender's game and was going into damage control mode in a laughable attempt to pretend he didn't want to fuck little boys

*am a god*
*gets stabbed by a retard and dies*

>>17020767
Is this part of Chanur? I thought I read all her space cat books lol

Just finished Rhythm of War. That series has gotten convoluted as hell. I liked it best when it was just a few bros and a bridge.

>>17021894
Suborned by a god is not the same thing as being god.

Gimme a good audiobook fantasy rec. Something simple but good and long so I can get my credit's worth. Need something to listen to at work.

>>17021905
I signed up for cosmere shenanigans, casuals need to understand it's only going to get worse before it gets better.

>>17021973
aka don't read any of it for the next two decades until you can read literally everything in the 'correct' chronological order in a year or so and have it all fit together in your head, otherwise it's just a bunch of random timewasting nonsense.

This dude wrote the same book twice, and people called him a god, next he got depression because trump got elected and never wrote a single word again.. say something nice about him!

>>17020693
>>17020787
>>17020816
I fucking love monstergirls but I want to read good stories with them not trash stories about them. If that makes any sense

>>17022063
Nah dude, half the fun is trying to trace the hints of the larger universe back to relevant events. Not to mention Sanderson basically purposely writes all the cosmere novels to be re-read and slapped in the face with innocuous references you totally missed before.

I fucking love Sanderson bros..
Truly, worldbuilding is not and never has been a meme

>>17022255
i think his dad dying had more to do with his depression rather than fucking trump

>>17022499
I'm never sure if these are rent-free seethe posts and or low quality troll posts.

>>17022395
I still had to be flat out TOLD who Hoid was in all the Mistborn books. Except maybe Bands of Mourning but it's been a long time since I read that one

I do like that I didn't realize there was a Terriswoman in a Rhythm of War flashback until I heard her name (the reference to her rings bounced off me initially) I like that their naming etymology (or phonology? What word am I looking for here?) was so distinctive that I could tell where she was from by her name.

>>17022549
I don't even know anymore

>>17022549
I dunno man, I feel like sffg has gotten really truly shitty taste lately. Much worse than normal, just bottom of the barrel fanfic-tier books and the discussion was amplified around the time that new Sanderson book released. I've just been ignoring all of their posts on the hope that they'll soon get bored until he drops his next trash fire on us

>>17021885
I'm pretty sure there was no pederasty, I think I would remember that

>>17021894
People have a very hard time portraying Gods (and AI too) as anything but slightly different/more powerful humans for some reason. I don't get it, like even that Blue giganigger from the Watchmen was a better take on it and he was human to begin with

>>17021885
>pederasty
You should look at tldr and reviews for Songmaster. These and Card's rants against the gays look like self repression.

>>17022599
reread ender's game. the pre-tween male characters spend most of the book naked and the romantic tension between ender and the black kid was so palpable that even someone like me who is utterly blind to romantic tension could detect his shameful yearning when reading it

>>17022642
>look like

>>17022663
they're the same age

>>17022599
Same desu. Anon making the claim is jewish too so pretty sure what's going on here kek

>>17022675
I might be off on this since I haven't actually watched any of the Fate spinoffs but aren't the main chracters of prisma illya the same age?

>>17022689
>Anon making the claim is jewish too so pretty sure what's going on here kek

then you'll have to explain it because I have an easier time understanding Joyce than I do what goes on in an antisemite's head.

>>17022663>>17022642

>arachnaphobic? you must secretly wanna fuck spiders hehe

>>17022734
N-no!

>>17022728
Feel free to read Culture of Critique if you're interested in understanding antisemitism.

>>17022255
I'm sure he has a lot more money than me.
I think he'll finish the series some day. It will be bad like the rest of his books.

>>17022734
Songmaster has gay sex with an underage kid who's 15 but has taken antipuberty hormones so he looks like he's 11

>>17022757
I might need to. I've been here for 10 years and all I've got is 1+1=THE JEWS DID THS

>>17022784
It's really not complicated, but whatever I'm going to sleep this is not the place to discuss kikery

>>17022814
...you hate us because we want people to stop shooting up schools?

>>17022966
Among other things, yeah

>>17022995
damn dude, I knew you guys were in favor of gunning down children but I didn't expect you to actually admit it

>>17023032
Just giving you what you want, Anon

>>17021148
>He comments out loud, “Lol, what a bunch of losers,” rummages through cupboards for any food that will keep, packs up his bags, and walks away while whistling a tune.

>>17022550
>I do like that I didn't realize there was a Terriswoman in a Rhythm of War flashback until I heard her name
So you missed the one in Navani's prologue too then :^)

>>17022595
I think taste is as subjective as opinions and if you're so disappointed in the quality of books discussed maybe you should try to bring discussion about quality books you do or have enjoyed instead of complaining about what everyone else likes.

>>17021868
>femMC
>xianxia
I'm somewhat interested in this and I don't know why

>>17021973
>it's only going to get worse before it gets better
OKAY, WIT

>>17022550
>>17023288
How many Terrismen were in RoW and who/where were they?

>>17023403
The only ones I caught were the lady who gave Venli Ulim and the man Mraize murdered just before the tower was taken over

>>17023425
Yeah it took me reading past /sffg/ threads to realize a Terris(wo)man caused the Last Desolation(?)
>thought we'd figure out the Ghostbloods' intentions
>another cocktease book
I don't remember him murdering anyone but I could probably try and reread that sequence in the e-book.

>>17023446
Remember when Lift saves the red Aviar from Mraize's green one and follows it to the corpse?

>>17023425
>the man Mraize murdered just before the tower was taken over
I think that's the same as the steward in the prologue. Anyone who wears "too many rings on their fingers".

>>17023452
I remember her being seen with it at the end of the book but I don't remember the killing sequence.

>>17021868
White Snake/Green Snake

>>17023480
I mean we didn't see him kill the guy but it's implied since he was standing over the body and his pet was attacking the bird that lead Lift to the corpse

Why aren't you reading Worth the Candle yet, /sffg/? It's a rational self-insert litrpg isekai webnovel by Alexander Wales, and it's the best piece of writing I have read in years. Currently at 1,418,177 words, it's over FOURTEEN NOVELS' worth of free content, and still ongoing!

https://archiveofourown.org/works/11478249/chapters/25740126
https://www.royalroad.com/fiction/25137/worth-the-candle

>It's a self-insert litRPG portal fantasy, loosely based on my personal experience of falling into a portal to another world and discovering that I had a character sheet attached to my soul. This story uses some custom CSS for the character sheet and definition tags to allow mouseover on various game terms, so mobile and touchscreen users, you're missing out.
>Update schedule is, as always, whenever I feel like it. Special thanks to the people of /r/rational for helping me think about ideas.

The setup is that Juniper "Joon" Smith, an ordinary suicidal rationalist teenager who has been on a self-destructive downwards spiral ever since the tragic death of his best friend Arthur, suddenly finds himself transported from English class to the magical land of Aerb and given RPG abilities along with a quest system and achievements. Specifically, he finds himself dropped into the Risen Lands, an abandoned hellzone filled with undead used by the government as a trail by ordeal. There, he meets the most beautiful woman in the world, Princess Amaryllis Penndraig, who has been falsely accused of a crime by her power-hungry family in a bid to claim her substantial assets. Now, the two of them must team up to escape the Risen Lands alive while unraveling the hints that Amaryllis's great ancestor, Uther Penndraig, may be someone Juniper knew in his past life.

And that's just the tutorial!

>>17023493
>his pet was attacking the bird
That's what I remember. That's when he was talking to 'Shallan' in the gardens, yes?

>>17023499
Because 異世界 is the tag that makes me run away screaming

>>17023499
I am never reading that shit

>>17020298
Witches = women though

>>17023297
>I think taste is as subjective as opinions
Yes, this is exactly the sort of opinion I expect your kind to hold. And I regularly post about the books I'm reading.

>>17021803
How come I never heard of this dude before?
I'm not even a stranger to the setting, I've played tons of DnD and 90s DnD CRPGs like Planescape and Icewind, but I've literally never heard of this dude before.

Here's an impossible riddle:

A highwit Fantasy book.

>>17023622
bakker

>>17023499

What really sets this story apart is the intelligence of the characters, the plot or the setting.

There are no idiot balls, failures to communicate, or any other form of artificial conflict; Joon and Mary act exactly the way you would expect smart, rational, mature adults who are trying to survive and achieve their goals to act. Their every move, from which quest to tackle next to how to optimize Juniper's build to whether to trust this or that stranger is discussed and analyzed in excruciating detail as the life-or-death choices they are. Personal and romantic issues are brought into the open and worked-on rather than allowed to fester for umpteenth installments as they would be in a typical anime. Juniper is incredibly well-read and a veteran Dungeon Master with a ton of experience in worldbuilding, while Amaryllis is a workaholic with a gift for diplomacy and management. Both of their skillsets get a lot of use in the story.

Aerb is an extremely detailed and coherent setting. Everything from the mechanics of travel on a hexagonal grid to the logistics of bulk-teleportation to the economics of magic items has been accounted for and integrated into the story. More than once, these details turn out to be the key to solving this or that puzzle.

The plot is hard to explain without spoiling anything, but rest assured that there IS a rational explanation for everything, up to an including why a random Kansas teenager was transported to a fantasy realm and gifted with magical powers.

Overall, if you are the kind of person who likes Greg Egan or (early) Larry Niven, you will not be disappointed with this story.

60% done The Hobbit

>>17023650
I swear you're trying to piss me off

>>17023505
That scene is part 1. The dead Terris steward is Lift's interlude at the end of part 2 or 3.

>>17023609
>How come I never heard of this dude before?
I'm honestly not sure, he's been banking on Drizzt books since at least the late 80's and I only discovered him when a friend recommended the latest trilogy in 2004 or so. He's probably not more popular because he's really only above average compared to most serious fantasy writers, but you have to admire his work ethic. If you want something a little different from basic elves and orcs, the Spierwielder's Trilogy is a nice little alt-universe love note to Tolkien that I was always fond of. I also recommended pic related one day when an anon was looking for priest-fiction. Ties in settingwise with the Drizzt books and the characters make cameos in later Drizzt novels. Dwarf druid is my favorite.

>>17023579
Oh, you're the "my opinions are objective fact" twat. Maybe that's why you're perpetually unhappy with other people's opinions.

>>17023609
You've never heard of R. A. Salvatore?

Really?

I'm not even a DnD nerd and never read anything he's written

>>17023516

Worth the Candle is more of a deconstruction, though. Think Worm or Watchmen, but for Isekai LitRPGs instead of supehero comics.

Anyone know of any fantasy books that take place in a more modern society like an equivalent early 20th century, idealized art-deco/brutalist a la Metropolis, or crazy magitek future science bullshit?

I'm so sick of middle ages/renaissance (if I'm lucky)

>>17023731
No take candle!

>>17023733
Little, Big by John Crowley

>>17020693
wow nice reviews it's gotta be good

>>17023609
If you played Kingdoms of Amalur he wrote the script. He's probably the most famous DnD novel writer behind Weis/Hickman. Have you heard of them?

>>17023650
you've written this exact thing with the names changed for other webnovels wtf

>>17023733
Vurt

>>17020399
Source?

>>17023909
>>/lit/
Proof or it didn't happen, faggot.

>>17021196
house on the borderlands

Anons... please clarify for me... I just red Dune Messiah and Paul was banging on about how he wanted to save Chani from the death in childbirth but he didn't want to pay "the ultimate price".

I assumed this meant something like the exile into the desert or losing the throne but upon more reading I think it might be something like letting the Jihad keep on going.

Is this revealed more in Children of Dune or did I miss it? What is the ultimate price?

>>17025100
I think it's pretty clear Herbert is just making shit up throughout.

>>17025300
lol, I do wonder sometimes. Was the whole series planned from the beginning or did he get a wad of cash and then had to stretch out a bunch of threads that were not there before.

>>17025100
I read it a million years ago but when you said it I thought it meant he wouldn't take the golden path

>>17025329
Yeah, I am thinking this. I have only read Dune and Dune Messiah, but after some wiki reading and stuff, I am starting to think the horrors of the Golden Path might be what he is talking about.

I don't actually know what the Golden Path entails yet, as I am gonna hit Children of Dune in the new year, but I was told by someone it is some Herculean undertaking that requires terrible sacrifices made by Leto II.

Do you think it is the case that Paul doesn't want to undertake it himself? Or is it that he knows the choices are to live childless with Chani and end his prescient bloodline, versus have children that will have to finish his grim task for him?

How long until Mistborn era 3

>>17025682
after stormlight 5

>>17025689
Christ Almighty!
Why does sci-fi and fantasy do this?
Why can't more series just be a trilogy or something?
There is no need for these mega universes.
This is just a mess.

>>17025689
>Death by Pizza
>Working title. An urban fantasy about a necromancer pizza delivery man/person who runs a pizza joint. Written, but will need to be reworked.
Hmm...

>>17025689
>Mulholland Homebrew's Sinister Shop of Secret Pets
>Middle grade/young adult fantasy about a girl who accidentally apprentices herself to a guy who runs a fantasy pet shop. Will possibly include a leekromancer character that has power over legumes.
Hmmmmmmm.......................

>>17025811
>There is no need for these mega universes.
Brandon is an outlier in that regard.

>>17025819
Unironically would read though.

>>17025836
To that extreme, sure.
But why is wheel of time something like 30 volumes?
Dune could have ended after 4 but Frank went on to write more then die and now we have to suffer no true ending.
It really is not unprecedented and no other genre has this problem.
I could really enjoy some books out there if exponential sequels were not carrying it one for all time.

>>17025811
A lot of those are really just independent books or series and it doesn't matter if you've read others. Stephen King did this too. Some others, like that litrpg guy that merged two pen name seem to do it for sales.

>>17025871
Mostly for sales, since it happens to things that are proven to sell. But aside from that writer and reader invest more in the setting in these kinds of books so they want to get as much out of it as possible.

Mistborn era 5 = Cyber Kaladin tries to erase depression of his system by rebooting himself

>>17025913
Sales is clearly why, I just wish there was more new and independent entries that didn't have to just be "tune in next week" garbage. I might actually buy some of these then.

>>17021154
Nevermind. It's on its way now wtf. I make a post out of all these days after a entire month and suddenly they ship it on the next day.

>>17025811
Even trilogies are too much because so many clearly set out to write a trilogy simply because, I don't know, it's a thing for fantasy? If anything short stories died at some point along with magazines and collections that published them. Notice how authors of old always had a truckload of shorter works?

>>17025998
This. I hate even trilogies. I would just prefer a little creativity and have then do a decent stand alone novel. How many times have we trodden the "demon hunting detective" or the "super secret assassin's order who's main guy goes solo because they are shady" and other tropes like this. Do some dam standalones, niggas.

>>17025689
>mormon tries to write cyberpunk
oh no bro

>>17022281
You're in luck then. That's pretty much what the series is.

Men, fucking sanderson, why is there always something ruining the book? First was Shallan, now Venli flashbacks

>Start reading Dresden Files
>constant piecemeal bits of a characters background without revealing anything
>constant references to movies and tv shows
>every woman is a 10/10
>Harry thinks he is being funny when he isn't

It's just a procedural cop drama, like 'Castle' or 'The Mentalist', but with magic.
It feels a little comfortable, but the writing is definitely lacking. It feels more like a book you would read on an aeroplane, than display on your shelf.

Does Butchers writing, and/or the storyline, get stronger as he continues?

Give me Indian science fiction.
The Indian fantasy sci-fi canon is probably the best.

>>17026453
Well it's Fantasy rather than Sci-fi but I recently read this and it was okay. Very strongly influenced by Hindu cosmology.

>>17026312
because sanderson loves to pad his book

"this thing that happened two books ago, let's go back and revisit it exhaustively whilst adding absolutely nothing of value or elucidating anything"

for what it's worth though, they're not nearly as irritating as Shallan chapters

>>17023499
>It's a rational self-insert litrpg isekai webnovel by Alexander Wales
Sorry mate, you've got 4 adjectives there that all say DANGER DANGER, garbage ahead! Adding "rational" is not enough to make me give it a try

>>17026564
>Special thanks to the people of /r/rational for helping me think about ideas.
It's shaped by some of the smartest humans alive. It must be good.

>>17026439
some are better, most are about the same, depends on how interested you are in the specifics that book is dealing with. pretty much all the books that more heavily utilize the female characters are mediocre, but there's a good scene or two in every book.

I went to the used book store today and got Amazing Science Fiction November 1978, Fantastic Science Fiction July 1979, and Isaac Asimov's Science Fiction Magazine July-August 1978. I'm a Black Companyfag, so the only story I've read so far is Glen Cook's from the ASF. It was okay.

>>17026453
Lord of Light

>>17020597
>reddit normie
>tons of books, with more on the way
>read Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings
>resembles an American comic book
You want this.

>>17027415
>stormfront
>dresden files
sorry I'm not a nazi, not gonna read it

>>17020597
Discworld series is the obvious answer

>>17020597
Read the Ender series, it is pretty good.

>>17027446
Oh yeah! Forgot all about it!
I actually bought The Colour of Money at Goodwill, but I forgot about it, thanks!
I know I dont have to start at the beginning, but I want to

>>17027454
yup, 41 books, have fun
i'd also recommend The Expanse series
9 main novels, 7 novellas, and a tv show

>>17025315
messiah was planned

>setting is based on a tabletop game
>it's isekai
>it's REVERSE isekai
Any other red flags that mark a series as unreadable trash?

>>17027608
more than 5 books

>>17027423
its not nazi dogshit, jim butcher just chose a really unfortunate name. i don't think stormfront even existed when he wrote the first book

that said, the first two books do have a bit of the sexism common in noir, but they get significantly better after that

>go to your oddly long-lived friend's 111th birthday
>notice that there were spies even among the animals and birds as you approached the town
>"huh, that's weird."
>meet your friend and recount decades long since gone, he barely looks a day over 70
>"huh, that's weird."
>tells me he is going to pull a prank on everyone he invited to the birthday party
>he gives a long ass speech before disappearing into thin air
>have to cast some magic to help cover for him so people don't freak out too hard
>"huh, that's weird."
>go back to his home afterwards and find him getting ready to leave on an adventure
>remind him that he said he would leave the curiously important ring behind
>he gets incredibly shitty at me over this and threatens me repeatedly, even feigns ignorance and gas lights me
>ends up leaving the ring behind but only after much cajoling
>"huh, that's weird."
>let his nephew take the ring and hold onto it, tell him I'll be back ASAP to talk to him some more
>things become increasingly more dangerous in the world the whole time
>tons of circumstantial evidence, plus my own divine gut instinct tell me that this ring is the center of all known evil in the world
>do next to nothing for 17 years

Was Gandalf a retard?

Just finished Discworld what do I read now

>>17026439
Yeah he improves as time goes on. First three books are honestly a bit of a wash in comparison

I will say he sort of feels like he doesn't care about the series as much as he used to these days

>>17027878
Wheel of Time.

>>17027937
Already done

>>17023968
Behind the Dune

>>17027958
Read something not /SFFG/ then.
Try:
>Notre-dame de Paris
>The Pillars of the Earth
>Lonesome Dove
>The Count of Monte Cristo
>Rabbit, Run
>Anna Karenina
Or something else...

>>17027657
holy fuck you massive faggot jesus christ are you fucking serrious right now?

>>17027851
Travel and research takes time. Book establishes Gandalf had to confirm his doubts.

>>17020597
Gaunts ghosts is a great war hammer 40k series

>>17027608
Reverse Isekai would actually be really interesting done right.

>>17022784
Ok, is there any reason you're being a histrionic little fag?

is City at the End of Time by Greg Bear any good?

>>17028429
It was enjoyable. Took a bit to get invested.

>>17026081
Can't fuck it up any worse than the Polish.

>>17026463
>gives a taste of listener history that's never been clearly set out along with several slice-of-life pre-war segments
>provides some answers while raising more questions about the pre-Return machinations of the voidspren and how Venli gained her first form of power long before stormform
>proper ending for Eshonai after being something of a main character then just unceremoniously dying in a chasm off screen
>adding absolutely nothing of value or elucidating anything
Shit critique.

>>17028429
I don't know about that, but I do love Darwin's Radio/Children for near future hard sci-fi.
Are there any other sci-fi novels that deal with potential human evolution and the ramifications of that on real life society like the Darwin books? That's probably what I found most compelling in those.

>>17020998
>the end of the Battle of Dagliash

>>17028650
To be fair the flashbacks in book 4 are absolutely the worse one so far. Especially after the very good Dalinar flashbacks in book 3. Listeners aren't that interesting especially since they're stuck in essentially the same forms for most of the book. The voidsprens machinations are interesting for what's implied about Odium's agents but there's not a lot of it. At least Eshonai's last chapter was cool, even if I never cared much for her.

Shallan and Venli have sort of similar plotlines where they have noble goals but spend a long fucking time each book going "me, me, me". At least Shallan has Adolin and Pattern.

>>17027878
how do you think discworld compares to wot? I just started wot and never read discworld, but maybe I will someday

>>17028847
> N-no! You can’t just wipe out a quarter of the Ordeal with an ancient Tekne god-weapon!
haha nuke go boom

>>17029283
Based

>>17028847
>DON’T TRUST HI-

>>17020298
Perihelion Summer - Greg Egan (2020)

I haven't read nearly enough Egan to know for sure, but his recent works seem considerably different from his early work, but that's to be expected. A lot can change for someone over the course of their life.
The odd thing about this short novel is that the hard sf isn't so much about the idea as it is a reason to explore how the characters react to the changes that occur.
The novel begins with Earth being concerned whether a black hole will pass close enough to destroy all life or not, which you might think that's what this novel is about. It isn't. The black hole is only there to set up the premise and nothing more. The novel is about WHAT IF THE WORST EFFECTS OF CLIMATE CHANGE HAPPENED TODAY!? YES, TODAY! NOT DECADES FROM NOW! NO! TODAY! YOU AREN'T PREPARED! ALMOST NONE OF US ARE! NEARLY THE ENTIRE POPULATION OF THE WORLD IS GOING TO DIE WITHIN YEARS! YET YOU SCORN US AND REFUSE TO BELIEVE THE LOOMING CATASTROPHE IS REAL, LET ALONE IMMINENT! is probably what Egan is going for, but the characters and story itself are much more detached and resigned than that. Considering that Egan lives in Australia, this may be especially personal and relevant to him as their federal government has arguably the worst climate policies and the country has the highest emissions per capita of any developed country.
Unfortunately, I couldn't have cared less about any of the characters. I think the only people would be interested in reading this is those who want a very staid, stolid, and mundane, and look at daily life in a peri-apocalyptic world. The vast majority involves seasteading as staying in the same place for the entire year on land is a death sentence for almost anyone.
There are more contemporary pop culture references than you may expect, such as...REDDIT! WE DID IT AGAIN! This is no means the first time Egan has used Reddit in his stories. Yes, 4chan has been referenced before as well.

Excerpts:
"I'll feel bad for not feeding my family sleeping pills and dragging them out here against their will."
"The Ghost of Climate Future to shake us up before it's too late!"

Rating: 2/5

>>17027608
well name of the wind was based off some concepts rothfuss had for an rpg campaign if you consider this one good

>>17027851
There's lot of magic rings in the world and aside from a vaguely malign influence on Bilbo the ring he had was otherwise unassuming. The One Ring had been missing for thousands of years and prior to that it was only out of Sauron's possession for a brief time, and in the hands of greedy, ambitious men. So not a lot was actually known about the One Ring for certain, much less how to identify it reliably. It required a lot of research. Even though Gandalf had suspicions about the ring in Bilbo's possession, he couldn't take it himself. If it really was the One Ring then it was too dangerous to keep in his possession, the world could not afford to have one of the istari fall under the Enemy's influence. Moving the ring was also dangerous, as the world was becoming less safe as you mentioned, and the chances of Bilbo being waylaid and the ring being lost again were too high. This is why Gandalf insisted the ring remain at Bag End. The Shire was still safe and remote from the troubles of the world, and if it stayed there then Gandalf would know exactly where it was when he was ready to make his move. His plan, to assemble a small elite group to escort the ring, was the best possible solution, though they had to move much faster than originally planned due to Sauron capturing Golum and discovering the Ring's whereabouts.

>>17025871
>But why is wheel of time something like 30 volumes?
It isn't. It's 14 volumes. And it's a single continuous narrative that follows the same characters the whole way through, it also only covers a period of a couple years. It's rather unique among fantasy series because of this. When you have a series of WoT's length it's more common to have novels be self contained stories with only rough continuity between them, or else do like Sanderson and have them exist in a shared mythos / setting, but be otherwise entirely separate stories with separate characters. WoT's story is a single narrative stretched across 14 books. It's a lot longer than it needs to be, with tons of added points of view that don't really contribute much, and needlessly dragging some parts out, but it is nonetheless a single story, a true epic. Steven Erikson's Malazan Book of the Fallen (10 books) is also written the same way, though it is overall much less tightly and cohesively written than Wheel of Time, especially the early books, which on their face feel very spread out and lacking a central narrative.

> Drusas Cuckamian
The entire motivation for his giant, world-spanning, deadly quest in TAE series is simply to find out more about the man who cucked him. The entire motivation for his character, for his hatred of Kellhus, is simply his rage at being a cuck. Not very good character writing, Scott Hakker.

>>17021885
Fellow jewanon here. The reason Judaism is bereft of mystical elements is because Judaism takes a strong anti-magic stance. Whereas the Greeks viewed their Gods as still subject to the higher force of fate (see Zeus in the Iliad) the Jews saw God as the supreme power. Thus it made sense for the Greeks to try to manipulate the Gods with magic while for the Jews it was a futile exercise.

live in the forests? elvish
grow no beard or body hair? elvish
can use magic? elvish
teached humans about ancient mithologies? elvish
have a deep rooting to the nature? very elvish
have very long lives but very low birth rates? hella fucking elvish

lamo grr martin has no originality

Brandon Sanderspren

>>17030213
learn English before posting

Is this the proper place to ask this?
Can you guys recommend me some novels/light novels/books similar to Ascendance of a Bookworm? (https://global.bookwalker.jp/series/200013/ascendance-of-a-bookworm-light-novel/))
Supposedly Modesitt Saga of the Recluse (Currently reading, I assume the second book will be better than the first at being similar to bookworm, but the first is good so far by itself regardless of being similar or not) and some of the discworlds are similar, anything extra besides those?

>>17030257
make me, buddy

>>17030206
That's completely inaccurate. Judaism may crack down on necromancy and the worship of other gods, but can you even try to imagine a jewish dnd character that's not a spellcaster?

Kabbalah for example has been practiced for hundreds of years, and many of the founders of the alchemic tradition were jewish. Hasidic communities still to this day rely on on protective amulets and phylacteries for protection against supernatural forces. It's even thought that the classical image of a wizard is based a rabbi wearing a judenhut, a pointed hat jews were forced to wear when outside their communities during the middle ages

The problem with jewish fantasy isnt anything different about how our religion handles the fantastic. The issue is that we spent most of the past two millennia as minority in other people's countries, forbidden from owning weapons or armor and lacking both the wealth and freedom to create our own forms of architecture, fashion, art forms and so on – not that we would have if we could because history has consistently reminded us that the easiest way to survive a few extra years is to assimilate to the local culture

>>17030262
that's a surprisingly tall order anon, but if I had to give a rec I'd say the dandelion dynasty books are the best match I can offer. That's assuming that is, you're looking for stories of characters advancing the science of an archaic civilization. If not I'm not sure what you are asking for

i wish more sci-fi/fantasy books were good. it seems like the genres are fairly popular but so many of these books are just bottom-of-the-barrel formulaic poorly written trash. i feel like i've read literally every good sci-fi or fantasy book in existence, the last few books i've tried i dropped before finishing.
is it that rare for a book to not be shit? have i just been spoiled by going through the best shit of the last hundred years? is there nothing good left?

>>17030152
Well the main point is, he still doesn’t know if Kellhus is really a savior or not. The mandati being self sacrifice fetishists probably didn’t help his thinking.

>>17030478
What would you like to see? What should writers who plan on writing a sci-fi/fantasy book know in order to make something satisfying?

>>17021148
That sounds awesome though, what the hell are you talking about? Fuck goody-two-shoes protagonists.

>>17021885
Read Unsong

>>17020693
Nice, are there physical copies of this series? I hate reading on a screen

>>17021942
Gideon the Ninth
The Dispossessed
Too Like the Lightning

>>17022663
That’s just normal teenager stuff before America got all prude

>>17030767
>prude
How much has to be allowed not to be a prude?

>>17023499
This is very bad

>>17030767
If you would be uncomfortable naked in front of other people of the same sex in a group shower or seeing/chatting with your friends also naked in the locker room, most Americans thirty years ago would think you a ridiculous prude. There’s a lot of boys being naked around each other in Ender’s Game because boys used to be naked around each other a lot more.

>>17020399
Books for this feel?

>>17030478
ok what are the good ones?

>>17020298
>Discord is gay
Based. Fuck that obese Mexican train Aeos. Your name isn't Alice you faggot, you will never be a woman, never post your shit again

>>17029209
Fair. I also take less issue with Shallan in general than most people around here seem to, but I can understand why Venli's shit character might be even more insufferable to people who detest Shallan.

>>17029691
>cover blurb is simply BRAVO
Checks out.

>>17021148
I haven't even seen the replies to your post again but please don't drag mushishi into your shitposts, it hurts my heart

You have sixteen seconds to post your cosmerefu

>>17031016
Sterris

YEAH I SAID IT

>>17030990
Mushishi is terrible series only enjoyed by those who are both pretentious and overly sentimental.

>>17031016
You posted her

>>17031016
I want Vin to rape me.

>>17031021
Based autismo tradwife preferer.

>>17031023
It's just comfy and has a cool setting, I have no idea where you got that psychoanalysis

>>17031153
It's comfiness for people who think they are too good for standard sorts of comfy.

So I’ve taken the smutpill and I’ve decided to try my hand at writing porn. But one thing I can’t decide. On f-list, shemales are insanely popular. In h-games, female protagonists seem to do the best. But in smut writing, it seems like self insert males are the most popular. What is your favorite gender for the protagonist to be in porn? Doesn’t have to be just books, I’m interested in general too.

>>17031312
M/m is objectively the most noble form of romance to write about

>>17031376 t. homofash

>book has two stars and the only complaint is “protag beats his dog”

>>17031602
>1 Star: "Book contains depictions of slavery"

>>17025811
Yeah, I fucking hate that too, but I understand the incentives involved. The publisher wants books that are guaranteed to sell, the author doesn't want to go through the trouble of making up a new world and characters, and the fans want to read more about their favorite characters. Everyone wins... except for the artistic integrity of the work, which often goes to hell, and newcomers who don't want to get invested in a sprawling series with an original trilogy, two sequel trilogies, a prequel tetralogy, a couple of midquels, and one or two spinoffs.

So, to take this discussion in a more constructive direction, who are some good /sffg/ authors who mostly write standalone novels? I can think of H. G. Wells, Arthur C. Clarke, Michael Crichton, and Greg Egan. Anyone else?

>>17030365
>jews
>lacking wealth

>>17031602
Sorry but I'm a cat person and I still would hate a protag that beats his dog. It sounds like some grimderp novel trying to be 4edgy8me.

>>17031727
It’s normal to kick and whip your dog if it misbehaves

>>17020430
kek

>>17031697
for most of history that was very much the case, and even now it's not like we're all one big rich family.

that you randomly decide every rich or powerful person who disagrees with you politically is a "secret jew" really doesn't help with that delusion.

>>17031682
Kim Stanley Robinson is enjoyable.

>>17031733
No that's a shitty trainer. You don't need to whip your dog to make a correction.

>>17031797
I’ll beat you if you keep talking back

>>17031776
Nice try, shekelstein. Your tricks have no power here.

>>17031682
Alastair Reyonlds - Pushing Ice is a great standalone

Stephen Baxter's Manifold trilogy are great standalone books (all the books are actually standalone)

Greg Bear - Forge of God is an enjoyable alien mystery.

>Early Life
every time

>>17031312
I couldn't give 2 shits about the protagonist as long as it's fappable. Isn't that the goal of porn? Self-insert porn seems like a surefire way to give yourself sexual dysfunction.

>>17031802
>talking big on the /nerdshit/ general
ooo!

Lately I've been thinking about writing my own sci-fi story. Haven't really put pen to paper since some embarrassing fanfics I made a decade ago, is this the kind of thread to ask for a bit of advice and share some ideas in?

>>17031972
A couple of us talk about writing ourselves. Shit I'm doing it right now in between getting waylaid by 4chan

Right now I'm waffling between planning a real book and writing-as-I-go-with-a-plan some smut just so I keep up with writing prose without getting bogged down in planning and going days without

>>17031926
Underrated Sandershit.

What are some hallmarks of a dying world you guys have read about?

I'm trying to finalize my setting and the entire point is the world is ending thanks to the efforts of a mythological set of heroes who didn't actually save the world so much as put it on life support

>>17031985
The gist of it is that an alien colony ship enters the solar system in the 1800s (at first thought to be a strange comet), and humanity is alerted to their presence by a few dozen autonomous probes landing around the globe in the 1890s. Although it's clear that the alien ship is more interested in Mars, it pushes the European powers (France, Germany, and Britain) into an early space race that has a few interesting knock-on effects; the Great War is averted, tensions reach a boiling point between the USA and Britain, and achievements like nuclear energy and the moon landing occur in the 1930s.

From there I just want to indulge in my autism for 1940s space warships being pitted against technologically superior but numerically inferior alien colonists. I'm still trying to pin down how to frame the story and how everything actually goes down, but it's one of those ideas that I just can't get out of my head unless I start fleshing it out in writing.

>>17032360
>hallmarks of a dying world
Stagnating technology and culture, deterioration of the biosphere (e.g. large deserts, wastelands, and dustbowls, mass extinctions of common animals), magical beings disappearing, magic severely weakening/not working at all (assuming the setting has magic), widespread poverty and corruption, plagues, famine, and a rise in lawlessness. Take your pick, really.

>>17032413
That idea sounds pretty interesting to me. Get on it, anon.

>>17032360
Earthquakes, volcanoes, general tectonic or overblown meteorological phenomena.

>>17032469
>>17032413
World's dying like someone literally on life support. Not exploding

>>17032420
Hammering out the framework of the story is something I hope to do over the Christmas break. My two main challenges are that I have no idea how to write characters/dialogue, and I want to do "hard" sci-fi for the setting, so I'll have to brush off the old physics textbooks.

Aside from that, I just don't want people to think I'm ripping off War of the Worlds.

>>17032496
What disease is killing it, then?

>>17030903
if post-coomer Frank was alive and decided to write sequels/prequels to the series instead of his son, we would’ve gotten big tiddy Jessica at some point.

>>17032692
>Paul, I have bad news
>you are, in fact, a ghola
>you died several thousand years ago at the very least, we kinda lost count
>also we brought your mum back as a ghola too, but with some “augmentations”...

>>17020298
>Discuss the most obscure /sff/ shit you've ever read.
This thing, written by some guy that posted in this thread a couple of years back. Fun characters and world, but the story was a little convoluted. Kinda like if you took a bunch of random Conan stories and glued them together. Which might have been the authors intention, but it didn't do it for me.

>>17021196
The King of Elfland's Daughter

>>17020298
>most obscure /sff/
never seen this or the author mentioned

I found an interesting parallel in the prince of nothing books.

>Though you lose your soul, the Mandate catechism began, you shall win the world.

Mark 8:36

>For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul?

>>17027423
but you are a nazi

>>17021258
City at the End of Time is alright

Cradle series is pretty gud.

>>17021272
That's a good cover.
I would buy it just for that.

Thanks to the anon who recommended [pic related] a few threads ago.
I'm about 20% in, but it's really good.
Has everything I could want from a book so far;
>Historical Fantasy
>Cunny

> End of The Unholy Consult
Why doesn’t Achamian or someone else just pick up the Sun Spear that Kellhus used to zap the Canted Horn (which he mysteriously discarded) and use it to blast Mog-Pharau out of the sky?. Apocalypse solved, bros. This is a “why don’t the eagles just take the ring to Mordor”-tier gaping plot hole. Nice one Hakker.

>>17033268
Because kellhus dropped the laser cannon in a hard to reach area. He was teleporting around with it like a meme lord.
Also I think he used up the charge.

has anyone read this yet? thoughts?

>>17033268
not like anybody knows where it is and they are in the middle of a super chaotic battle

>>17033268
eagles one isn't a plothole and neither is this really, an actual plothole is why would the consult try and kill kellhus when they wanted to convince him to join them and or become the no god

>>17033477
*also I will add it's not strictly a plothole as there are a few ways to explain it, it's just a bit odd

>Listening to Malazan audiobook
I forgot how based it is. Did anyone read any of the other book in the same universe? How good are they?

>>17033571
I finished the mainline series once. It's difficult sometimes being dropped in the middle of a brand new cast list every few books, but I was pleased with how all the stories tied together in the end. 8/10, have to do it again sometime.

>>17030624
ok retard

>>17031165
you are absolute retard and post like a pretentious fag

>>17033695

>>17020787
>>17020816
How much does it cost to actually commission art like this, and where can I find artists?
For reference, I'm not writing erotica. I can actually write.

>>17033933
idk, probably just go on tumblr and look at smut until you see a creator that has a patreon/fiverr that you can commission something from?
Tons of starving artists on tumblr looking to pay rent, just show them what you want and you're golden, pony boy.

Now that the dust has settled, are we pro or anti cnauir appearing in TAE? he didn't really do anything

>>17033933
probably pretty cheap, maybe like 100-200?

Any recommendations similar to pic related?

>>17034003
in what sense

>>17020298
Absolution Gap, Revelation Space #3 - Alastair Reynolds (2003)

I don't know how Reynolds got away with it, I really don't. I had thought the prior two books were bloated, but he outdid himself relative to those two with this. Possibly emboldened by getting away with it multiple times in a row, Reynolds had at least doubled down on his style of "I'll Just Write About What I Want To Write About" without regard to how well it works. Not only does this apply to the plot, but to the characters as well. So many characters seemed like they were dispensed with simply because Reynolds didn't want to write about them any longer and not for any other reason. Characters as plot devices ran rampant.
I understand why many people were upset with the ending, but to me it was fully expected as the logical outcome of his writing style. I went into this series thinking that the ostensible primary antagonists would matter and be the focal point of the trilogy but I was quickly disabused of that belief. I have no doubt that it was a quite a painful disillusionment when the reality of what they were emotionally invested in really was.
Overall, reading this trilogy wasn't worthwhile. If this third book was better or the trilogy as a whole was less drawn out then I'd have some reservations with stating that, but as it is, I don't. Despite that, I'll probably try more Reynolds eventually, but not anytime soon, as it'll be a while before the disappointment wanes. Does he deserve it? No, but that's just how it is. There'll be a much higher bar for it pass almost immediately for me not to drop it without hesitation though.
What I didn't expect was that a character would be a necrophile, pedophile/nepiophile, and a sadist. as evidenced by passages such as: You like them small, undeveloped. You take them out of the tanks before they've reached adulthood - sometimes before they've reached childhood - and you do things to them. Vile, vile things.

Rating: 2/5

Any sci-fi about the negative effects of the internet and mass communication?

>>17034450
crash space short story (free online)

>>17034450
The Machine Stops

>>17034003
In sense of a grand scale I think, the different races/factions fighting each other or just seeking to preserve their own kind in troubling times, each race's story told from a group of characters belonging to it and their adventrues. Intergalactic or not, doesn't matter to me.

>>17034531
By Bakker, right? I've been meaning to read something of his for a while now, so this is good.
>>17034566
I didn't know Forster wrote any stories of this nature. I'll get this as well, thanks.

>>17034579
Meant for
>>17034083

>>17034585
yeah

https://rsbakker.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/crash-space-tpb.pdf

here's a link

>>17034579
malazan is the closest I can think of, prince of nothing by bakker (pic rel) has a ton of different types of men and factions, Scarlet Spires, Cisharium, Kianene, nonmen etc, there are a few povs but most are on the same side

Hey Bakkerchads, found a short story by him that I've never read before. It shows some insight into the way Nonman experience time and memory. The emotions and thoughts of a Nonman as he is about to be burnt on the pyre by some filthy mon-keigh's. Bakker's writing can sometimes be psychedelic and abstract, this is certainly that.
? The Four Revelations of Cinial'jin
https://rsbakker.wordpress.com/stories/the-four-revelations-of-cinialjin/
It doesn't have spoilers for the series.

Was he right?

>>17035097
no he was dumb and ended up fucking his son up

>>17034765
um bruv... it's after the glossery in TUC

>>17034765
The man torturing him is Conphas

>>17035180
How and when did Conphas catch a bunch of nonmen? Also, how do you know it's Conphas? The text is very vague.

>>17030478
Try Too Like the Lightning

>>17035254
that's a book i hated and dropped immediately, could not get into the way the author wrote.

>>17030620
a lot of books i pick up end up having something as a synopsis that sounds good, and failing to deliver on that very specific promise. ie, this is a whodunnit but actually more than half the book is mil-sf action or a heroic fantasy that is actually mostly about the villain and in the end the hero doesn't actually succeed because the author is a fucking wanker who thought he was writing the next romeo and juliet when in fact he was writing garbage.

i just want books that promise a thing and deliver exactly the thing they promise, without weird bullshit out of left field like some shitty mary sue that emasculates the protagonist out of fucking nowhere in complete contrast with all of the other shit the author has written for pure shock value or because the author couldn't think up a good ending for the damn book. or a series that is inexplicably about thieves and fighting and shit and then turns into the eye-torture diaries, part 3 of 7, what the flying fuck is this shit.

just, you know, books that aren't really, really bad, that's what i'm after.

>>17030257
fuck off

>>17035151
How did he manage to convince the entirety of Jaghut civilization and culture to destroy itself if he was a retard?

>>17035319
Ask the mongols

>>17033105
That's holy cunny, anon, don't go getting ideas

>>17035803
More like hole-y when I'm finished with her.

>>17034637
Malazan is one of those cases of genuine epic fantasy in the unironic usage of the term.

Which books handle well MCs with epic power levels?
>malazan
I think this is the best example of great books with god-like MCs
>unsouled series
This is a bad example. As the MC's powerlevel grows the books become more boring and repetitive.
>The System Apocalypse series
For a litrpg, it handles pretty well high level powerlevels. The combat is interesting and the plot thickens are the MC grows.

>get on amazon to look up a book
>scroll down and see a bunch of free kindle books
>look through them and they all look like shit
>get them anyway because they are free
I know I'll never read them, but I can't stop myself.

>>17036126
Everything is free with pirating. Just download some collections with many 10,000s of books.

>>17036126
I fucked up my Amazon doing this.
When everyone was giving their ebooks away for Corona, I added a ton of shit because it was free.
Now my Amazon's suggested is filled 'Black Orc Fucks White Woman' shit with cringe covers.

>>17036248
Your sacrifice wasn't in vain if you upload them to places where anyone can get them, even though they were free.

>>17035813
You seem a bit young for that.

>>17035987
PoN is probably the worst

>>17020762 No.
>>17020767 I recently saw someone who made a list of catgirl books.
>>17021056 You started watching that season though.
>>17022633 I assume you haven't seen the Watchmen TV series
>>17023499 Because it's utter trash.
>>17023909 Nah, it's just been posted a few times. >>/lit/?task=search&ghost=yes&search_text=Aerb
>>17028429 No.

>>17036462
No, you're the worst.

>>17033432
You mean for that book specifically? You're aware that it's the final book of a trilogy, right?

>>17025998
Markets change over time. Serial fiction will eventually take over again, on a pay per model.

What are some authors very similar to China Mieville? He went all in into political bullshit but he used to write pretty good stuff in the weird fiction genre, particularily the things outside of his usual comfort zone, like The City and the City.

Do you guys know anyone who still writes stuff like that?

>>17026453
Written by Indians you mean?

>>17035240
>How and when did Conphas catch a bunch of nonmen?
No idea.
>Also, how do you know it's Conphas? The text is very vague
His description, his megalomaniacal monologuing and his reference to his grandmother. Bakker says it's Conphas in the comments too

The few Bakker spammers have been really going at it in reaction to the new Sanderson book.

>>17033706
r u ok?

>>17030755
What intentionally irrelevant recs you've provided.

>>17032715
Depends on what you mean by obscure. 0 ratings on Goodreads isn't that hard to come by.

>>17036778
yes, i am aware

>>17036936
In that case, no.

>>17036769
I'm not a book though

>>17036971
Image is you.
I can't be fooled so easily.

>>17036798
Are you after weird fiction in general, or weird fantasy?

Any good fantasy books or short stories about a kraken? The teaser chapter for the book GRRM is never going to write got me interested in them way back; don't think I've ever seen one used outside of like Pirates of the Caribbean.

>>17037039
Give me some recommendations regardless, I'm looking for the similar style, not nessesarily a similar setting.

>>17037069
Play Disco Elysium

>>17037069
Thomas Ligotti, maybe.
Cows by Matthew Stokoe is pretty weird.
Alot of people recommend VanderMeer, I didn't really like what I read. Felt like too much like Gaiman.
Koji Suzuki for some Jap Weird.

>>17036821
Rent free

>>17037081
Already have, liked the setting and the style, didn't enjoy the "gameplay"
>>17037084
Thanks. I've read some of Vandermeer's stuff and it was trash, will check out the other ones.

>>17025689
>adamant
oh i see he read hyperion at some point but missed what made it an interesting novel

>>17037101
Rent free is anti-capitalist and must be opposed.

>>17035290
Dilate

>>17037423
Being pissy about English adds nothing here. Real nazis yes, grammar nazis no.

post characters that are LITERALLY you

>>17037772
Are you a crab people?

>>17037774
me a crab person? ridiculous. crab people haven't lived in this system for a thousand generations

Thread to die soon

>>17038144
good

>>17038144
"Soon" is always relative.

>>17026439
read the felix castor series by mike carey

any good fantasy books set in underwater/water themed worlds?

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>>17038144
Like ur mum

>>17037675
keep seething dipshit