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He talks about a lot of stuff, like freedom and the nature of man. I don’t think it’s that simple.

>>17017117
What's the point in trying to summarize a philosophy in such a way?

>>17017316
Probably so you can dismiss it out of hand

>>17017117
You have the brain of a Nazi. Try actually reading Nietzsche instead of reading a surface level synopsis on vice.com.

If there's one thing I learned about Nietzsche from actually reading him. It's that he talks about a lot of shit, and he does it so eloguently and beautifully.

>>17017566
Would he have shit posted on 4chan?

>>17017117
Nietzsche tears down the concept of "Right" constantly and repeatedly throughout his entire body of work. So no, he does not think "Might Makes Right". Your reading was shallow.

>>17017575
No he would have had a blog he wrote very long-winded essays on. He was kind of anti-social, probably would not like places like 4chan or twitter

>>17017117
It is pretty hard to summarise his philosophy in one sentence

>>17017575
Almost definitely.

>>17018138
nah here it is: jus b urself bro

>>17017117
You cannot summarise Nietzsche to a single sentence, nor can you summarise any philosopher this way. But, to amend your statement, it should rather be "the self makes might, the self creates right".

>>17017117
>Might makes Right
Spooked
>Might makes right
Yes

>>17018219
Closer than the OP I guess

>>17017575
would have been an annoying tripfag who makes paragraph who likes nobody and who nobody likes

>>17017117
Yeah Nietzsche is famous for caring a lot about whether something is "right" e.g. good. You've definitely understood him all the way, no need to continue.

OP is both a brainlet and a gigantic faggot.
Many such cases!

>>17017117
Not at all. Neither he is a nihilist. An neither is his philosophy amenable to fascism without radically distorting it. Stop being an illiterate teenager.

>>17018377
He's a spooked little bitch. No wonder he got cucked to death.

>>17017575
Yeah. Some of it would have been cringe, some of it would be really good.

>>17017117
His philosophy is that if you depend on another person's philosophy to make your decisions for you, you're missing the point. And then a bunch of other shit. Read his books and find out.

If you combine a midwit redditor with an instagram motivational spammer, you get Nietzsche.

>>17018442
sounds about right

>>17018382
What exactly was he spooked by?

>>17018468
The idea of the übermensch. I am already perfect, as I am I. There is no other I but me, the übermensch is just an idea and a judgement to control me.
The anarchist library had a good quote on this:
>Quote
Nietzsche’s critique of politics and society is not oriented toward the overcoming of the individual’s alienation from self, nor toward the individual’s assertion of ownership of thought, behavior, and property. His critique is oriented toward the coming of the overhuman. Nietzsche’s assault on the state, culture, religion, and science does not establish any sort of compatibility with Stirner either in form, content, or purpose. Nor does it make him an anarchist or atheist. Nietzsche attacks authority in order to recreate it. Nietzsche attacks the human abstraction, the human essence, in order to make way for the overhuman, a new abstraction, a new essence. The state, culture, religion, and science must go so that there is no competitor for the attention, trust, loyalty, and adulation due to the overhuman.

>>17018382
if you disregard neetcha because he's spooked aren't you being spooked by the concept of spooks?

>>17018607
No, the usage of "spooked" implies this person has given away their might and will to another.

>>17018582
This is all true. He developed the overman spook intentionally because he felt it psychologically necessary to have a spook but he felt all spooks of his time to be limiting. He wanted a spook that would strengthen the man instead of weakening

>>17018622
would you still think this way had you not read Stirner?

>>17017593
>He was kind of anti-social

was he shy?

>>17018582
The overman is a Stirnerian archetype though. He is supposed to carry out the transvaluation of all values, becoming the ultimate renaissance man who banished nihilism from the world. To become an overman, one has to be unspooked.
Perhaps it is a spook but it is the spook to negate all other spooks, canceling out all other spooks.
By the same token Stirnerian egoism is also a spook, the self is a spook.

>>17018630
>>17018696
I am not a spook. The idea of a defined "self" is a spook, though. My Ego is I, I am my Ego, I'm just naming the unnameable but not labelling it.
Nietzsche labels his self and creates an ideal self to compare himself with. He haunts his own mind with the idea of being inferior to a figment of his own imagination, even changing his life for it rather than for himself. He became the zealot he so hated.
>>17018641
Yes, I found Stirner only through our shared ideas. I'm glad I found his writings, as now I don't feel alone. Even if the Stirner I know only exists in my mind

Nothing wrong with creating spooks. The insight is to come to the realization that all spooks are created, destroyed, and animated by the Unique. The Unique does as they please and all subordination to spooks is the result of either ignorance or a temporal, voluntary submission.

>>17018820
Yes, but use concepts. Spook implies being haunted or already consumed by the cause.

>>17017316
dont want read no long book

>>17018696
>The overman is a Stirnerian archetype though. He is supposed to carry out the transvaluation of all values, becoming the ultimate renaissance man who banished nihilism from the world. To become an overman, one has to be unspooked.

why did Neetsche think one man could bring such change as oppossed to a group of men?