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For my next semester I'm supposed to read 9000 pages or so. This translates to about at least 100 pages a day.
Some of the texts are incomprehensible:

Yovel, Yirmiyahu, Translator, Commentary. Hegel's Preface to the Phenomenology of Spirit.Princeton University Press, 2005. ISBN-10: 0691120528
Nietzsche, Friedrich. On the Genealogy of Morality. 3rd Edition. Keith Ansell-Pearson, editor, Carol Diethe, translator. Cambridge University Press, ISBN-10: 9781316602591
Acampora, Christa Davis, editor. Nietzsche’s On the Genealogy of Morals: Critical Essays. Rowman & Littlefield Publishers, 2006. ISBN-10: 0742542637
Spivak, Gayatri Chakravorty. A Critique of Postcolonial Reason. Toward a History of the Vanishing Present. Harvard University Press, 1999. ISBN 0-674-17764-9
Morris, Rosalind (editor). Can the Subaltern Speak?: Reflections on the History of an Idea. Columbia University Press, 2010. ISBN-10: 0231143850

>> No.17016877

Yeah it’s way too much anon but don’t worry because I doubt anyone’s going to finish it all. Just do as much as you can and start your reading in the holidays.

>> No.17016904

Just realize most of these writings are utterly useless. Reading academically isn't the same as reading for pleasure. For example, you should read On the Genealogy of Morals very deliberately, thinking it through and stuff. But don't read some "A Critique of Postcolonial Reason. Toward a History of the Vanishing Present" whatever as if it were a holy text. Skim it, read it diagonally, go to the conclusion first. You've got to be strategic with what you read, specially if it's in some cucked syllabus.

>> No.17016911

>>17016904
>just don’t pay attention to the stuff you disagree with bro
How can you not see the blatant idiocy in what you just said.

>> No.17016917

Are you an undergrad?
If so, you can get away with skimming most of it and just highlighting/underlining things that seem important so that you can bring it up in class/reread later if it'll be on a test or for an essay

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>>17016877
How can I become a great philosopher If I can't even do course work for bachelor level

More of the curiculum:
Philosophical aesthetics : an introduction
ISBN:
0631180354; 0631180346

Nature, justice and rights in Aristotle's politics
Forfatter:
Miller, Fred D.

>>17016911
Yeah that doesn't seem like a good way to philosophize

>> No.17016933

>>17016911
It's a syllabus, it's not a proper reading list. People should read things that go against what they believe in. It's one thing to read Kant with utmost attention (if one wants to read something against Nietzsche's morals), but reading stuff churned out by the Academia is a very different matter.

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>>17016917
But I want to be the next zizek or chomsky. I can only read 20 pages a day right now if I'm taking notes. And If I don't take notes I don't remember anything.

>Genuinely on the verge of tears right now


More books:
Time and space
Forfatter:
Dainton, Barry
ISBN:
9781844651900; 1844651908; 9781844651917; 1844651916


Space from Zeno to Einstein : classic readings with a contemporary commentary
ISBN:
0262082713; 0262581698

>> No.17016948

>>17016919
>How can I become a great philosopher If I can't even do course work for bachelor level
Philosophers who gain their education solely from books will never be great. You also have to live in the world, have experiences, see the things around you, and form your own ideas. Reading 100 pages a day of dense philosophical work isn’t an indication that you will be a great philosopher. Besides, one also has to read history, poetry, novels, listen to music, go to the opera and theatre, not only philosophy. In any case your curriculum is absurd and I wouldn’t take it as a sign of unintelligence or inability if you find it overwhelming.

>> No.17016968

skim the fag stuff and read stanley rosen. and major in something better.

>> No.17016970

>>17016944
Chances are you're not actually going to read the entirety of those books, just relevant/important sections.
It all depends on the professors, for one of my classes we had Critique of Pure reason on the syllabus but in the class we ended up only reading, discussing, and being graded on work focused on the introduction.
In another class I took we were regularly assigned dense 100 page readings on Hinduism/Buddhism for most classes, but again I mostly skimmed and highlighted what seemed important and then asked questions in class, the notes I took in class prepared me for all paper writing/exams.

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>>17016970
>>17016968
>>17016948
>>17016933
>>17016917
>>17016911
>>17016877
>>17016904


Okay guys the consensus seems to be that I should skim read most of the stuff, except what ever I'm writing the essays on. I'll listen to this advice.

But for future reference, how do I actually get to the level of reading 100 pages a day?
Like when I'm lifting fatigue management and progressive overload are pretty simple, but how the hell do you do this with academic reading?


>mfw all the bros chime in to help me manage my next semester

>> No.17017021

>>17016994
That's the thing, bro. The metric "reading 100 pages a day" is a bit bogus. You can't read 100 pages of Kant's Critique of Pure Reason a day. It's just unfeasible or utterly useless as you will not remember much and won't able to produce a mental map of the arguments in your head. And when we say skim it doesn't mean just rolling your eyeballs across the text. It also means reading the introduction and the conclusion first, in order to see a) what the author is arguing for; b) what conceptual framework is he using to make his argument; c) who he's arguing against. If you can learn how to read with this mindset you can get really profficient at academic reading. You just can't read everything you want in the same focused way. There's no point in doing it. Reading Wittgenstein's Philosophical Investigations should be something thoughtful and deliberate. But reading "Commentaries on Wittgenstein's meaning normative view #5 by Academic McAcademic" should be something entirely different. With time you'll learn how to get better at this. Lots of luck with your future job as a barista.

>> No.17017036

>>17016919
I doubt being a philosopher is only about reading, it's also about thinking. In order to think you need to experience life. You must travel, eat foreigner food, smell flowers, etc. to be the best philosopher in the world.

>> No.17017068

>>17017021
>The metric "reading 100 pages a day" is a bit bogus. You can't read 100 pages of Kant's Critique of Pure Reason a day. It's just unfeasible or utterly useless as you will not remember much and won't able to produce a mental map of the arguments in your head.

This is indeed true. 5-20 pages a day would be better to truly take in very dense content. You need time to think and analyse what you just read. The more you read, the more it might go over your mind. An alternative to this might be to read 10 pages, stop, think about it for half an hour, read 10 pages, stop, think about it for another half an hour until your brain needs a break. You won't hit your 100 pages goal but maybe half of that would be realistic if you spend an entire day doing it.

>> No.17017085

>>17016994
It's ok bro, we're all gonna make it.
t. Got my bachelors in Philosophy & Religious Studies this summer
Reading 100 pages of Philosophy a day is pretty difficult if you want to really involve yourself in the text, you'd need a good amount of free time and probably some stimulants.
If you have days on weekends that you don't need to work, try dedicating a chunk of your day to reading then, but as far as just passing your classes to don't over do it and end up harming your grades from stress/failing health.

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>>17017068
I workout for 1 hour a day.
I prepare food on the weekends.
I don't commute or go to class because of the virus.

Basically I can study for 16 hours a day. (I can't but I have 16 hours a day)

>>17017021
Thanks for advice bro.
>>17017036
kant didn't leave prussia a single time in his life. Hume wrote "A Treatise of Human Nature" at 28 (i'm 22).

I just need to find the secret.

>>17017085
Based philosophy bro. You will probably be the manager at the coffe shop I work at after I get my graduates degree.

>> No.17017111

>>17017068
>5-20 pages a day w
lmao we did 1-2 paragraphs per week in a Hegel seminar.
the entire semester was jsut over a subchapter, where the entire chapter was covered over the course of 3 semesters.
BUT this was not in Angloland.
>>17017093
>kant didn't leave prussia a single time in his life.
why would you say such retarded shit.
And Kant definitely would subscribe to the necessary expereince before attaining knowledge: no categorical imperative can be understood before the age of 40. He did say shit like you dont need to travel if you can just read about the travels form other people, but he was not the cloistered autistic intellectual people often try to make him out to be. read CoJ and you will find a man very much opposed to the academic island.

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>>17017111
What are you gregory sadler? A year and a half per chapter seems a bit too much. You could basically learn german in half the time it takes to read the entire book if you are going to go at that space.

Also can't was a mega autist which is why I will be the greatest philosopher who ever lived. You watch and see. I'll print your post in the preface of my first book.

>> No.17017246

>>17017135
>You could basically learn german in half the time it takes to read the entire book if you are going to go at that space.
we are german, and we are a university that takes german philosophers seriously.
>Also can't was a mega autist which is why I will be the greatest philosopher who ever lived
>can't
already know it was not on purpose
> I'll print your post in the preface of my first book.
i love being cited on blogposts.

>> No.17017253

>>17016869
Are you doing a PhD?

>> No.17017280

>>17017111
>lmao we did 1-2 paragraphs per week in a Hegel seminar.
the entire semester was jsut over a subchapter, where the entire chapter was covered
I wouldn't know since I just got started studying philosophy on my own but is there any hope that I can attain good comprehension of these philosophers outside of the academic environment? Especially since we must spend days on just one chapter and that is with the help of an academic
I don't want to fall for the college scam just to learn philosophy

>> No.17017398

>>17017253
No, bachelor.
>>17017246
>already know it was not on purpose
Newfags truly have no selfawareness.
>>17017280
He is just a brainlet. Hit up Greg Sadler on youtube and read.

>> No.17017804

>>17016869
FORCE FED ON FEAR AND FAILURE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJS6HoXJ1K8

>> No.17017819

>>17016869
Demoralization. Depression. Desperation. Deprivation. Privation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csxBQLG4-3Q
New wave music.

>> No.17017842

>>17016869
in all seriousness though
this is just a cult practice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYOKMUTTDdA
you're part of a primitive tribe called the academicae
the process turns you into an insectoid

>> No.17018860

>>17016933
>stuff churned out by the Academia
Spivak is one of the most important living theorists, you're not going to contribute much to the current philosophical discourse just by skimming her.
Also, Academia does not have to be captalised, if it's not one exact institution with that name that you're talking about.

>>17016970
Also this.
Read the introduction, a bit in the middle, and the final chapter, and try to connect the dots, if you don't have the time for the whole book.

>> No.17018884

over 9000!!!!!!!

>> No.17018906

>>17016869
Hvad studerer du?

>> No.17019191

>>17016869
Are you in a doctoral program? You sound like an undergraduate that doesn't know that you will be assigned only a few chapters from each of those works

>> No.17019234

>>17018860
>Spivak is one of the most important living theorists
bro, you just posted cringe

>> No.17019268

>>17019234
You seem to be more up to date with internet lingo than with philosophy and theory. Postcolonial criticism and its variants are only strengthened by the BLM cultural wave.

>> No.17019290

it's supposed to teach you to learn how to skip irrelevant parts. nobody reads all of them. they skim or read summaries, zooming in only on important parts.

>> No.17019343

>>17019268
what does post-colonial theory (i.e. subaltern studies) have to do with BLM (i.e. critical race theory)? one is about poor brown people in the global south and the other is about blacks in the first world

>> No.17019388

>>17019343
Nothing whatsoever, no connection.

>> No.17019401

>>17016869
>Some of the texts are incomprehensible:
>puts the easiest texts imaginable
what did he mean by this?

>> No.17019415

>>17016994
By reading 200 pages a day, that way you have time for breaks.

>> No.17019442

>>17019343
I suppose it's because critical race theorists and their political movements use postcolonial theory to justify the inferior position of blacks in society from the POV of oppression. I think post-colonial studies are important, though, in any case; it would be absurd to claim Africa hasn't suffered from European colonisation, and cruel to deny Africans their right to study colonial history from the POV of the colonised and not the European colonisers.