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Thoughts on this?

>> No.16994660

>>16994611
This is one of the most discussed pieces of lit on 4chan. There's no shortage of threads on it. It's good, really good, but seemingly inactionable- a utopian dream.

>> No.16994672

>>16994611
Given that I wear glasses, Ted can go fuck himself

>> No.16994709

>>16994672

Glasses predate industrial society, and if you read the book, he explains the futility of trying to maintain technology that relies on large networks, i.e. fridges.

>> No.16994718

>>16994611
The most recent entry in the Western philosophical canon. Required reading for thinkers.

>> No.16994738

Refute it. Pro-tip, anon: you can’t

>> No.16994769

>>16994611
Try leaving society, I swear it's the best you can do: you'd simultaneously fulfill your monkey dreams and stop shitposting rebbit tier memes

>> No.16994781

>>16994769
>didnt read it
>calls it a meme
You're yeast-life; you're a mulchman.

>> No.16994806

>>16994781
k maymay

>> No.16994836

>>16994672
>Dude Ted literally wanted to kill disabled people!!11!11!
No stop falling for Reddit memes. Nobody is taking your glasses.

>> No.16994858
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16994858

It hit me hard when I read it. To be fair, I was already pre-disposed to his way of thinking, just not quite as radically. But now I can at least articulate my anger when the maintenance man goes around with his leaf-blower at 6 AM. He is a stranger employed by a stranger whom I've never met and is making noise through the infernal machine. In a normal society I could of course ask him, who would be my neighbor and friend, to please quiet down and do this later. But I cannot do this. Even if I did he could not comply, since his orders come from higher up, even further removed from me. We are thus both slaves to the industrial society we live in. Can we please bring back normal fucking tools? Maintaining the grass outside with traditional tools is kino, and comfortable. Doing it with gas-powered trimmers and the like that blasts noise is extremely uncomfortable and depressing.

>> No.16994916

I really just want to go live innawoods now. I hate spending my life in front of screens but I literally can't pull myself away from them, I'd have to disassemble my PC to even have a chance at this. Of course it's always possible, you know, but it also feels impossible, because technology demands 100% of your attention, you're supposed to value it and see the world through its eyes. But now I'm just starting to hate it all.

>> No.16994929

>>16994806
You can't spell, produce original thoughts, or read. You should be plowed into a ditch with machinegun fire along with most of the world.

>> No.16994991

>>16994672
t. hasn't read it

>> No.16995022

>>16994929
k meem

>> No.16995549
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16995549

>>16994858
I've always considered it a meme but since /lit/ won't shut up about it I'll try reading it

>> No.16995753

>>16994611
Yeah I skimmed it, I was quickly able to ascertain it was a work a genius.

BIG UP TO MA BOY TEDDY!

>> No.16995847

>>16994660
The first chapter of his most recent book is titled "The Development of a Society Can Never Be Subject to Rational Human Control" and argues that claim in detail. I wouldn't call him utopian at all, since his vision is just to destroy the existing industrial system, ideally in a way that precludes the conditions that enabled it from arising ever again, then let things play out however they will. He also argues against lefty/anprim claims that the primitive life is freer or more egalitarian or involves less toil than industrialized life. So I don't think he's utopian or even optimistic, he's just unwilling to completely admit defeat.

>> No.16995850

Ted was right

>> No.16995865

Sucks.

>> No.16996347

>>16994611
really good, read it if you haven't already

>> No.16996502
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16996502

>>16994611
This book lead me down the path of primitivism. I am now actively taking steps to learn how to build my own cabin, hunt, farm, survive, etc. My aspiration is to secede from the technoindustrial world and live self-sufficiently.

>> No.16996504

>>16996502
based

>> No.16996511

he is right about leftists

>> No.16996526

>>16994611
You can't put the genie back in the bottle. The only way out is through

>> No.16996602 [DELETED] 

>>16994611
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>> No.16996624

>>16996502
Cool, but Ted gave up on that way before he even wrote the book.