/lit/ - Literature

>>16992516
Agamemnon was a cuck

>>16992516
Both Agamemnon and Achilles

>>16992516
Everyone except Diomedes

Hector was in the right in every way conceivable.

>>16992566
based, his death is one of the saddest passages in /lit/

>>16992566
>not regrouping near the walls because of his arrogance

>>16992516
The Gods were being dicks, it was all their fault.

>>16992516
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>>16992571
If you think the Iliad is about 'right' and 'wrong', you didn't understand it.

The gods. It's ALL their fault.

>>16992566
was he right to run away like a little bitch?

>>16992584
The gods were made in our image; we were always at fault.

Butthurt femgods. The humans were fine with just having a 1:1, but butthurt women ruined it.

>>16992516
Agamemnon and Achilles

>>16992607
>The gods were made in our image
Yikes

>>16992516
This guy here>>16992583

>>16992583
>The iliad is not about right and wrong therefore nobody can be right or wrong

I wish there was some proof of IQ required before posting on this board jeez

>>16992516
Achilles for being a faggot bitch and agamemnon for being a greedy nog

>>16992516
Zeus for letting a mortal judge immortals

Chryses for being a little bitch and not accepting he got his ass wooped thus begging Apollo to help.

>>16992583
God I hate people who respond to everyone

>>16992516
The Fates that control the destinies of all gods and men.

>>16992516
Reminder than Helen of Troy was 10 years old at most.

>>16994264
In the Iliad war had already been going on for 9 years, and Helen was probably at least 12 when she was kidnapped by Theseus years before her marriage to Menelaus. She can't have been younger than 23 at the time of the Iliad.
Anyway she was a daughter of Zeus so she didn't grow up and age in the same way as most mortals do.

>>16992516
some olympian gods -> Paris and Helen -> Agamemnon -> Agamemnon again -> Achilles
in that order. Also most of the olympians are wrong at very single step of this chain, except for Zeus. The Zeus of the Iliad is actually trying to do his job.

Achilles was based. You modern numale wouldn’t understand.

>>16993536
>be priest
>your city loses
>now your pure virgin daughter has to get raped everyday and clean for the rest of her life
Not fair desu, any father would want to change this. These are the Greeks, not some savage eastern tribe. Inb4 edgy incels.

Agamemnon for being a little bitch. The story boils down to ethics of authority, and I WILL NOT YIELD THE MARE.

Dolon.

just agamemnon
and the whore of course

>>16992583
how does that even make sense? alexander the great read this story all the time to model heroics. many critiques at the time treat it like the bible, you absolutely are suppose to see just and injustice
>>16993014
shut the fuck up about achilles
achilles wanted to chill with his brother and go home in one piece but once he lost his best friend he was ready to die in a blaze of glory. It’s badass
if he spent the whole story splitting skulls the illiad would be like 3 chapters

>>16992516
Paris, everyone else was is just casualties

>>16992767
You may as well be a feminist trying to discuss the Iliad.

>>16995401
>you absolutely are suppose to see just and injustice
Where, exactly?