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16963119 No.16963119 [Reply] [Original]

>get excited when Hegel is namedropped
>proceeds to use “thesis-antithesis”
why don’t people who talk about Hegel actually read Hegel?

>> No.16963142

>>16963119
One of my lecturers in university was a specialist on Hegel and he didn't know what dialects were.

>> No.16963149

>>16963142
No one does, not even Hegel himself

>> No.16963151

>getting excited when you see a philosopher namedropped
You should have precisely the opposite reaction. It means a pseud-take is coming.

>> No.16963178

>>16963151
Truer words have never been spoken.

>> No.16963180

>>16963149
Fair enough, actually.
>>16963151
Sad but true

>> No.16963186

>>16963119
Thesis-Antithesis isnt bad, it's synthesis that's just not hegelian

>> No.16963196

Thesis: Pseuds who want to sound smart
Antithesis: Philosopher who nobody understands
Synthesis: Thesis antithesis synthesis

>> No.16963211
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>>16963119
>get excited when Hegel is namedropped

>> No.16963220

>>16963119
That's correct though?

>> No.16963241

>>16963119
Because they played fallout new Vegas and are addicted to Larping as a result

>> No.16963298

>>16963186
Where did synthesis come from?

>> No.16963313
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16963313

>>16963119
Femboys were Hegel's plan all along

>> No.16963331

>>16963313
damn so he truly was based after all

>> No.16963380

>>16963151
As Schopenhauer would have argued, the truest words ever written on /lit/.

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>>16963119
Tell me then, Oh, great Hegelian Sage, what is a Hegelian Dialectic?

>> No.16963493

>>16963486
From my experience, no one can tell you what it is, they can only tell you what it isn't.

>> No.16963563

I am staunchly of the opinion that you can not understand Hegel unless you are german; it is lost on anyone who isn't, even on those who learned german later in life.
You need your own Hegel in your language, but sadly all you end up with is Heraclit and Lao Zi tier stuff or a complete lack.
>>16963486
>der dialektische Weg zum absoluten Wissen ist ein Got werden

>> No.16963644

>>16963380
brilliant

>> No.16963696

I'm now wondering if the Japanese translation of Phenomenology is more comprehensible than the English.

>> No.16963767

>>16963119
The Japanese reference Western works they've never read and never intend to read is just part of their culture at this point

>> No.16963926

>>16963119
i see this claim all the time, that “not even hegel knew what hegelian dialectics were”; then what does he say then? how does this concept exist?

>> No.16963962

I think it's pretty fitting for Akechi honestly.

>> No.16965109

whats with japs and pop philosophy?

>> No.16965132

>>16963119
Same thing happened but when I played Nier:Automata
They used philosopher names for robots, but it had nothing to do with philosophy

>> No.16965162

>>16963119
>this thread brought to you by anon who's not read hegel

>> No.16965517
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>>16963119
What's this shit? Some consoleshit? Read Subahibi like a man, or get filtered like a bitch.

>> No.16965552

>>16963313
Holy... the spirit is negating itself into absolute spirit... he put the evolution of consciousness on hyperdrive...

>> No.16965689

>>16963486
Dialectics is just subject-object interaction

>> No.16965878

>>16965517
I once read that the translation was shit and stripped the visual novel of its charming writing style, all the while turning stripping the intent behind some of its "philosophical" musings, transforming them into cheap references, hardly worth more than a meme

>> No.16965892

>>16963151
I want to believe

>> No.16965900

>>16963151
Entirely correct.

>>16963119
What the fuck did you expect from some weeb trash video game?

>> No.16966160

>>16963563
It's becoming a God? Sounds vague.

>> No.16966164

>>16963119
>>get excited when Hegel is namedropped

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16966179

>>16963151
sometimes it's kino

>> No.16966211

>>16966179
Looks based, what is this from?

>> No.16966215

>>16966211
Hunter X Hunter

>> No.16966280

>>16963119
I have the same problem when someone mentions Rousseau or Hobbes.

>> No.16966324

>>16963119
it's a paraphrase, scholars regularly use the fichteian terminology

>> No.16966344
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>>16966179
weak

>> No.16967233

>>16965878
They always were cheap references, mostly. I think the coolest thing about Subahibi is that the author read a couple of lines of Wittgenstein and then expanded them into a massive story with all kinds of craziness. But I thought the translation was good, most of the philosophy is directly quoted and they did a good job tracking down sources and pulling from them instead of trying to translate that stuff themselves.