/lit/ - Literature

More poetry and less post-modern burger lit is appreciated.

>>16945258
>less post-modern burger lit
The goblino only votes for what the goblino was assigned to read :^)

>>16945227
the text in your image is completely unreadable

Reminder to vote ten times for Ubu roi by Alfred Janny

bump

>>16945227
>but replies that are merely racist or not politically correct (i.e. "Bronze Age Mindset - BAP" or "Mein Kampf - Hitler") will not, as they are still representative of the culture of /lit/
They are not representative of /lit/ they are representative of /pol/. All non-literary non-fiction. should be weeded out. Another years' chart ruined. Fuck you. I'm not voting.

>>16945546
Never change, anon. FWIW, neither of those has yet been nominated.

>>16945558
I don't care. You know what? Since you aren't weeding out shit books again this year I am going to flood the chart with shit meme books that /pol/ hates like White Fragility and that immigration books. Fuck you.

>>16945583
Have fun making 100 google accounts.

>>16945590
I already have that many

>>16945583
come on don't ruin the chart already

>>16945599
/pol/tards are going to ruin in anyway so might as well

>>16945602
atleast we'll always have those earlier charts

>>16945602
What a defeatist attitude.

The anon running the survey lets you see the results; if you want to weed out responses you can.

>>16945583
Why do you care so much? You’re a fucking loser if you actually give a shit about this enough to sabotage it

>>16945602
it*

>>16945602
>i'm worried that books i don't like will make the chart so i will do everything i can to make sure this happens
what happened in your life to make you so retarded

>>16945346
I am not a graphic designer, sadly. If you want to make an image for future threads, please feel free to do so and post it here!

>>16945699

>>16945812
Thank you anon!

>>16945812
beautiful

hary poter my faverite bnook :)

>>16945227
I don't mind Ubu Roi being memed into the charts, but c'mon, do we really have to allow something like Mein Kampf in the chart? Why should we humor it at all? It doesn't represent us and if it ends up being in the final chart it's nothing but an exercise in poor taste.

>>16946153
It's unlikely to make it to the final chart desu. The proportion of trolls to honest anons is lower than you might think.

>>16946153
I'm seconding this. /Pol/tards will not replace us!

But, seriously, Some restrictions should be in place to avoid trolls from ruining the chart.

>>16946153
>an exercise in poor taste
At least half of /lit/ *is* in poor taste though.

I just cast my first vote with White Fragility and books related to it. I am warning you. Filter out /pol/tard books and meme books or I will single handedly flood the chart with White Fragility type books.

>>16946190
Nevertheless, it'd be nice to have a list of our top books which are books that we actually enjoy and are worth celebrating.

>>16946248
Guy, you're not going to convince OP or anyone else to do anything by being a jerk.
Look at the responses, no one's even put those books in yet, yet you've gone and tainted the responses with your shitty books. C'mon man, get a grip.

>>16946248
You're playing a joke on yourself, anon.

Fabio Cabral - Anjos Proibidos

>>16945546
Go back

>>16946373
You go back to your containment board

>>16946384
But I'm already on /lit/

>>16946393
>>>/pol/

>>16946248
What a warning! Imagine being a real, unironic bully on 4chan. I think the OP should keep all the racist responses and filter out all your imbecilic ones to teach you a lesson, since your weak brain actually cares that much.

>>16946248
Imagine Reddit's face when it sees Robin DiAngelo on our list right next to Ayn Rand. They won't know what to do.

You should also throw out any nominations of books by non male authors
This is a men’s board

>>16945227
The Book of Ebenezer Le Page should be on this list.

>>16946450
>>16946277
>>16946275
I am doing this for the good of /lit/. /pol/tards shouldn't be tolerated here any longer and should be permanently banned from here. if you are mad at me you are probably a /pol/tard.

>>16946736
OP clearly doesn't care if you have racists and SJWs on the list, otherwise he would exclude them. But if you really want them on there to prove a point, then by all means use all your alternate google accounts to vote them in. When you do, then we'll have a list of your making, and you can crow about how shit it is. The really funny thing about that is that you'll be crowing about how shitty your own shit is.

>>16946758
OP wants a garbage chart so I will give him a garbage chart

Shoutout to the anon who also voted for Os Lusíadas

>>16946736
My point is that none of the books you said you wanted excluded from that chart had even been nominated yet, it was so far, a pretty sincere chart. But you ruined that by preemptively nominating those shitty books. I don't understand you, man. You're fighting against a problem that doesn't as of yet exist, but because you are fighting in the first place, it's now nearly guaranteed that people will begin to nominate those books you want to prevent from being nominated purely to spite you. You have effectively encouraged destruction.

>>16946815
What is verified twitter accounts

>>16946815
By not filtering out those books people will vote for them anyway. /pol/tards ruined the last chart they will ruin this one too. they don't care about literature.

OP here. I will share the final spreadsheet with all the submissions; if someone wants to go through the work of filtering out books they don't like, they can. I think it would result in an unrepresentative list, but if you want to have an unofficial list using your own criteria you'll be free to use the raw data to put one together yourself.

>>16946248
Oh no now we are really scared, this one bold anon is holding an ENTIRE THREAD on /lit/ hostage!

Be careful anons, this person is clearly capable of anything.

Why do the answers to some questions show up as graphs while others show up as lists? The graphs look ugly as fuck

>>16947095
When the same thing for one of the books is typed in twice, it defaults to showing a bar graph.

>>16946736
You are a bigger faggot than anybody on pol because you are here being a faggot and not on pol

>>16946736
A real human bean and a real hero.

>>16946758
Why would OP even mention that Mein Kampf wouldn't be filtered in the poll. That's like adding an "OP is a fag" as an option on your strawpoll.

>>16945350
bump for this, so far Ubu roi is #1

3xDemons
2xCrime and Punishment
2xThe Map and the Territory
1xSometimes a Great Notion
1xThe Sound and the Fury
1xSubmission

1x sickness unto death
1x yeats collected poems
8x Holy Bible

>>16945546
based, fuck /pol/ and fuck their influence on every chart

>>16946252
We have like five charts like that already, come on won’t hurt to try something new. I condone your decision OP.

fucking finally, it would be nice if you guys would vote the top 10 books you've read this year instead of spamming the same meme books over and over. Last year top 100 was shit.

Moby Dick - Melville
The Critique of Pure Reason - Kant x9
The Three leaps of Wang Lun - Döblin

>>16949297
Most people here only really read those same meme books.

Have you guys really read so few books that you have to spam the same book 6 times? I have listed 10 different books.

>>16946963
Based OP. I ran this last year and I'm glad you're continuing my practices.

How will the complete works/plays be counted in the list?
I voted for Sophocles complete tragedies, but have seen some other anon voting for Oedipus Rex.

>>16945227
It would be really cool if we could make a completely serious list of only the books read this last year, so we can finally stop seeing the same top 10 again and again. Too bad the autism of this board is at an all time high.
Plus the lists are always extremely underwhelming when it comes to poetry, we should make a separate one for poetry at least once.

>>16946963
If you weren't aware op, though you probably are, atomised and the elementary particles by Houellebecq are the same book.
So be sure not to count them separately.

>>16945227
Let's stop having always the bible at the top, we can't even agree on which iteration of it is actually the best.
Also, I suspect most people here didn't actually even read it: it's a beautiful and inspiring book but it's a religious text, not exactly literature

>>16945227
Please combine shit where it makes sense.
For example "The Unabomber Manifesto" is included in "Industrial Society and It's Future" but the manifesto is more well known than the book.

>>16949656
>not exactly literature

>>16949441
I want my favourite underrated book to get a spot nigga

>>16949891
Whats the book?

>>16946963
White fragility will be number 1 if you don't filter,
You'll probably get Ibrahim X Kendi and Adolf Hitler on the list as well.
Do what you know is right OP.

>>16950143
Honestly get a life dude.

>>16945227
This will go so wrong.
The more votes one person gives to a book the more devalued those points should be.
I inserted ten books but some faggots are just going to give 5 votes to bible and the other 5 to Moby Dick and call it a day.

>>16950199
OP was probably hoping to at least somewhat solve the problem of many books getting only one vote. Save for handful of obvious answers we do have very different ideas what should go on the list.

>>16945583
lmao look at this loser

>>16946252
like Mein Kampf?

>>16945227
I see far more annoying faggots crying about /pol/ under the bed or whatever than i actually see /pol/posting.

>>16945812
this is booktuber tier

how does it look so far?

>>16950464
allow yourself to enjoy things again, anon

>>16950464
That's intentional. It's supposed to be funny.

>>16950397
this, they need to go back to discord

The Supermale > Ubu Roi
Pierre or The Ambiguities > The Confidence-Man > Moby-Dick
t. fight me

>>16950512
Of course that the supermale is better than Ubu roi. But Ubu roi is funnier IMO. There is no chance than the supermale makes it though. Also:
Faustroll>Days and Nights>The Supermale>Caesar antechrist>Messaline>Ubu>Visits of love> L'amour absolu

>>16945227
Zorba the greek - Kazantzakis
The Sound and the Fury - Faulkner
Absalom! Absalom! - Faulkner
Moby-Dick - Melville
On the Genealogy of Morals - Nietzsche
Beloved - Toni Morrison
Memoirs of Hadrian - Yourcenar
Blindness - Saramago
Phenomenology of Perception - Merleau-Ponty
Dialectic of Enlightenment - Horkheimer and Adorno

the scoring system is so retarded lmao

Time to shine and give Don Quixote x10 boost

>>16950263
This is indeed the objective. I also considered (too late) doing something close to a ranked choice poll, where anons would list 5 books *in order*, and then their 1st place book would get 5 points, 2nd place 4 points, etc.

In hindsight that might have made it more difficult to troll the survey, but at least so far we've had very few troll submissions, and not enough to really harm anything. Time will tell if that continues or not.

Let's help by posting this on /pol/:

Hello dear /pol/ lads, I come to announce that the time has come... /lit/ is making a new top 100 books of all time here:

>>16945227

With a new voting system. You have 10 points to spare among any book you want, so I thought I'd be a great idea to help giving good ol' Mein Kampf them sweet +10, and make it climb all the way to the top.

What do you say?

>>16950686
It seems you want to get it banned from the list for fairness sake.

>you must have a Google account to vote on a /lit/ poll
The absolute state of this board.

>>16945546
>

>>16950686
Do it.

>>16950726
You are the garbage of this board

>>16950697
Are you against recent immigrants voting? Sounds like discrimination to me

>>16950735
At least I'm not you.

>>16950732
Hi did. >>>/pol/294907901
No impact on survey results so far though.

>>16950749
He wrote too much and too unengaging for /pol/ to care. They only react to baits.

>>16945227
Anna Karenina
In Search of Lost Time
Don Quixote
Ulysses
War & Peace
The Brothers Karamazov
Moby Dick
Madame Bovary
Infinite Jest

>>16946248
> I will ruin the list because I don't want someone else to ruin it.

>>16950784
Voting multiple times for White Fragility is not ruinining it though. Both cheating and counter-trolling is part of 4chan culture. I hope both Mein Kampf and White Fragility makes it in the top to show the diversity and dichotomous nature of 4chan.

But having a Google account is not 4chan-like so only reddit faggots vote.

>>16950795
Honestly, it's going to be enough work to collate and tabulate the several hundred responses we'll get. Without the 'you need an account to vote' requirement, I'd be worried about getting hundreds (or thousands) more votes to try to get some favorite book over the top.

I don't like google and the requirement for an account, but I don't know another better way to prevent (or at least diminish) people stuffing the ballot box, as it were. I'm open to any ideas here though.

>>16946827
You're no different than /pol/tards. Nominating meme books to disrupt the voting. Combatting trolls by being a troll. How pathetic. If you actually wanna combat poltards from ruining this chart do not be like them: actually make a sincere list with good books.

>>16950857
Either make rules to filter out non-literary non-fiction or shut up. I didn't make the rules. Complain to OP.

>>16950847
>CAPTCHAs
Least secure against sybil attacks but most private
>IP
Demanding unique IP is the standard way. Vulnerable to dynamic IPs / double voting by using mobile data + wifi, etc, but with identity there's always a trade off.
>email address
If you really want to prevent dynamic IP attacks and use address for identity, it should be provider-agnostic. Many people moved away from Google long ago for a reason. The fact that an email address is not enough, but it needs specifically a Google account means you're only encouraging Google's monopoly and discriminating against other services which are the only ways to preserve some traces of privacy. This is not about identity--requiring 1 email per vote is the same level of protection against false identities as the one you're employing now (especially if it automatically discards disposable email services.) You're just too lazy & don't care.

>>16950905
Thank you for the suggestions. Do you know of any other good systems for online polls that allow for your various protections, as opposed to rolling my own?
>You're just too lazy & don't care.
I am lazy, that's true. But I do care enough to say that if there is a relatively frictionless solution out there that isn't tied to google, I'm very open to using it.

>>16945227
If In Search of Lost Time, The Man Without Qualities, Brothers Karamazov, Les Miserables and War and Peace aren't the Top 5 then I'm fucking done with this board. I bet the top 10 will be mostly angloshit.

>>16950947
The only clear runaway winner right now is Moby Dick for #1.

But it's early yet.

>>16950951
don't give up so soon, Ubu roi could make it

>>16950880
Kill yourself faggot

Moby Dick - Melville x10

Remembe to count 'Elementary Particles' and 'Atomised' as the saem book OP

>>16951050
Yes, I know. We have a few books that have different titles in different regions; I will do what I can to make sure that I'm not splitting the counts for them.

When I click 'other' nothing happens

>>16945546
Based /pol/ triggering the reddit out of this one

>>16945546
you are as dislikable as they are, fuck off

>>16945546
Just to fuck you, I'm giving MK all 10 of my points

>>16945583
If all the things you could've done in your spare time you chose that. Doesn't take much to guess why you're such a waste.

>>16945546
Fucking idiot, all of 4chan is racist, not just /pol/. Has been since the /b/ era.

>>>16945227 (OP)
>I don't mind Ubu Roi being memed into the charts, but c'mon, do we really have to allow something like Mein Kampf in the chart? Why should we humor it at all? It doesn't represent us and if it ends up being in the final chart it's nothing but an exercise in poor taste.

What are some good books? I'm putting shit like red riding hood since I can't think off 10

>>16945227
Most PC thing I've ever read OP. Get fucked.

>>16951223
>Ubu roi - Janny

>>16951223
Which version, by Charles Perrault or Grimm's?

>>16951277
Perrault because I don't know the difference

>>16945546
>They are not representative of /lit/ they are representative of /pol/
We're the same people you worthless plebbit fuckstain.

>>16951283
In Perrault's version the story ends after Red is eaten by the wolf, later French versions have her rescued by a woodcutter, while Grimm change the woodcutter for a hunter.

>>16951307
Oh cool, actually I like that version because it shows how kids should not trust strangers. Keeping my choise thanks to you anon

>>16945227
>Point system
Thank you for allowing me to give all my points to my boyce james joyce

>>16950947
Buddenbrooks should be up there, too

>>16949917
Not him but I gave ten votes to Modernity and Cultural Decline. One of the best obscure/underread books I've read.

>>16951100
Based booba

>>16945227
>https://forms.gle/SYonDiWQVfQ2tHmA7
disappointed at the lack of Wittgenstein votes so far

Reminder

>>16951866
shitty meme desu

>>16950947
Joyce.

>>16951383
Damn nigga, this actually looks extremely interesting. How did you discover it? Where do I find people disillusioned with where the west is heading that are not /pol/ spergs or schizophrenic twitter trannies?

>>16952061
>How did you discover it?
On some YouTube comment section I believe.

>>16952114
Suddenly you don't sound so based anymore

>>16949561
Seconding this question. I was the anon who put rex in, because I was unsure what would count

The Man Without Qualities x3
The Idiot
Don Quixote
War and Peace
Book of Disquiet
The Red and the Black
The Metamorphosis
Hopscotch

>>16945227
Can you at least filter out stuff like Mein Kampf, White Fragility, and Harry Potter?

>>16952186
For some of the ancients (Plato, Sophocles, Aristotle, etc), I think I might just count any vote for a vote as a vote for their complete works. But not sure yet.

>>16952246
Fuck off with your censoring reddit bullshit you piece of shit

>>16952284
Maybe we can divide Plato into Dialogues and The Republic

>>16952294
Censorship is good.

>>16952303
>>>/reddit/

>>16952284
>any vote for a vote as a vote for

Jesus I sound drunk. Sorry, meant any vote for an individual work as a vote for the collected works.

Votes should vote as they're cast. A vote for Plato's the Republic is a vote for Plato's the Republic. A vote for Sophocles' Oedipus Rex is a vote for that. A vote for Plato's Complete Works is a vote for Plato's Complete Works.

There's nothing special about the ancients. Treat them as normal. Anything else is dumb. Grouping votes for a Plato dialogue as a vote for Plato's Complete Works is pretentious and misleading cause 90% of /lit/ never read more than one dialogue. Saying "Plato's dialogues" is similar but also with the drawback that you can't use a book cover as image which is how /lit/ charts are usually made.

Just count them normally. Also I may like a work and not the rest of the corpus and would not want my vote to count for the others. There's no reason to complicate this when it's in fact straightforward. At most you can clarify it in the OP so people are aware.

>>16952406
My initial idea (as noted in the OP) was to group parts of a work together (e.g Sophocles' Theban cycle and Aeschylus' Oresteia). I'll take a look at the data and see if that still makes sense.

>>16952447
>>16952246

>>16952458
No. I have a few reasons why, some of which I've already stated, and others which I will explain after the poll closes.

>>16952303
With this type of thinking you shouldn't be here

Please vote for A Tough Life - Charles Bukowski

>>16952562
Trolls and non-reader /pol/tards should not be allowed to ruin the chart with troll picks. This is a literature board so the chart should only have literary picks.

>>16952622
Well, how is mein kampf not literature?

>>16945227
we voting for The Coronameron lads?

>>16952636
not that anon but,

It's bad literature, and if it's too high on a list it means the list is shit

>>16952730
>It's bad literature
I don't disagree but who are you to set the standards for what constitutes good or bad literature, let alone a favorite?

>>16945227
>sign in

nah

>>16952636
Literature in the art sense. Mein Kampf isn't literature. It's just /pol/tard propaganda ramblings. The Phenomenology of Spirit isn't literature either. It's not art.

>>16952778
So all philosophy is out of the picture? What abiut relgious texts? Biographies?

>>16952778
>>16952636
Examples of literary non-fiction would Montaigne's-Essays, Urine Burial by Thomas Browne, and The Anatomy of Melancholy by Robert Burton. Also aphorisms like Nietzsche's, Cioran's, or Adorno's Minima Moralia. Those are literary non-fiction.

>>16950686
As a /pol/ browser and a /lit/ browser I feel attacked, I've never read Mein Kampf.

>>16952817
Philosophy that is more philosophy and not art is out of the picture yes. Kant, Hegel, etc are not literature. I gave some examples of philosophy that should be allowed that count as literature in the artistic sense >>16952818
Biographies can be literary like Boswell's of Johnson.
Literary crit should also be allowed.

>>16952748
>who are you to set standards
>implying there is not a scholarly consensus that adolf wasn't a shit writer
I'm not the anon you were replying to, and I get your point, but even some of the people on /pol/ attempting to start a thread to spam that book in this poll admit that it's boring. This doesn't even touch the wealth of academic discourse describing how exactly it is boring and why it sucks. Subjectivity matters, but if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck... you know the saying.

>>16952646
Sure, go ahead and oob.

>>16952778
>He doesn't read the Phenomenology as a bildungsroman
ngmi

>>16952447
"Theban cycle" doesn't exist. They are different plays from different decades. It's just a modern academic invention and it's perfectly normal to like one play and not the other. Them being related to Thebes doesn't mean anything.

>>16952923
>>16952778
>autism

>>16953077
I am the oobposter actually, thank you for remembering my work :)

>>16949783
"Industrial Society and Its Future" is the title of his manifesto. His book (which contains more than just Industrial Society and Its Future) is named after it.

>>16952778
And some people unironically say /lit/ is the smartest board on 4chan

>>16951204
Look at this retard. Saying niggerfaggot was funny precisely when no one was actually homophobic/racist. Old /b/ which was overwhelmingly left-anarchist.

>>16953946
>Old b
>Left anarchist

Lol, ill give it to u that b was primarily libertarian but most ppl seemed to be more right leaning, wasn't till they made pol that everyone that gave a dam left and b became more left leaning.

>>16945227
So what's the top 10 so far?

>>16953946
>no one was actually homophobic/racist. Old /b/ which was overwhelmingly left-anarchist.

>>16955260
way to out yourself as a complete newfag

Tony Robbins - The Giant Within (x5)
Rhonda Byrne - The Secret (x5)

>>16945546
So the bible should be weeded out?

>>16952406
Being able to vote for the complete works of Plato is dumb. Can I vote for an omnibus edition of the Bronte sisters work just because there are editions that group them all together?

>>16945583
You're only making people want to vote for Mein Kampf even more you autistic idiot. Kek.

>>16955322
I'll check in a bit, about to sit down for dinner. As of this afternoon (after the list was posted on /pol/) the top two were Moby Dick and Mein Kampf.

>>16956091
can you filter the obvious troll picks?

>>16945583
>>16956045
BASED

>>16952447
Honestly don't be tough on yourself choosing one way or another for grouping Plato. Votes for Plato are probably the most difficult to count: /lit/ hasn't been consistent with how it counts them in years past. Both sides have good arguments for listing dialogues vs Republic.

>>16945227
Also, props to OP for the system they chose for the criterion for what books are allowed. There are always going to be quite a few posters furious that philosophy, novellas, or nonfiction is allowed on the list, but letting /lit/ put whatever the hell it wants, minus obvious troll submissions, is the best way to represent /lit/, by a way margin. Keep it up OP.

>>16949297
>vote the top 10 books you've read this year
This is what I'm seconding every time. It makes no sense to make a yearly vote if the chart consist on the same books.
No fucking point.

>>16956091
You should filter out any responses where every field is the same book OP, or if a book appears more than once even

>>16945227
Stoner - John Williams
Confessions of a Crap Artist - PKD
Dubliners
Men Without Women

>>16949441
I could list ten but there’s a few books I want to get more support for

>>16956194
>tfw I reread my favourite few books yearly and so can put them on the list anyway by this criteria

>>16956194
>>16949297
There is a thread currently going for this

>>16946963
Thanks OP
Don’t listen to the kvetching

>>16956204
> Filter books appearing more than once
You are stupid.

>>16955965
O no, u caught me. Totally don't know what I'm talking about

>>16945546
You will never be a woman

>>16945227
>The time has come to prepare /lit/'s top 100 list for 2020.
Is this a joke?

>>16945227
Congrats on ruining this due to tactical anonymous voting using the point system. 10 votes for anything will probably guarantee its inclusion due to low voter turnout. A person can get something onto the list 100% with just a few accounts, if not a single one.

>>16945227
And then there will be a week of voting on them to determine their placement?

>>16945546
go back to plebbit u faggot

>>16945227
The analytics shown are useless.The spreadsheet should be linked to and set up to show the positions and everything in real time.

>>16958696
That’s the point though, OP wants less well-known books to be able to make the list in order to get some more variety. Of course there will be trolling though.

>>16958874
Sounds like FORCED DIVERSITY to me.

>>16958891
Yes, exactly.

>>16952772
You are the author I take it?

>>16958696
Since it almost certainly fills to a .csv, its really easy to see meme responses

>>16952772
Kek

>>16945227
What are the current standings?

>>16952757
this

OP Here. Have been working to validate for a while this morning. After 294 submissions (note, 72 were while this was also posted in /pol/), initial top 10 standings are:

Mein Kampf - 524 points
Moby Dick - 116 points
The Bible - 58 points
The Brothers Karamazov - 45 points
Crime and Punishment - 38 points
Don Quixote - 30 points
Ulysses - 24 points
Stoner - 24 points
The Iliad - 20 points
The Makings of Americans - 19 points
Les Miserables - 19 points
Lolita - 19 points

Then we get to some more interesting books, but going through to validate/make sure everything is tallying correctly is a pain (different spellings of russian names, some anons ignoring directions on the formatting of their submissions, title variants, etc; it will take some time to work through those, but hopefully earlier work will make final compilation easier).

>>16959568
So basically the same shit except some obvious /pol/ trolling and people assuming Lolita wouldn’t need any weighted points.

>>16959568
Damn that's harsh, /pol/ really fucked us bad

Hold me bros...

>>16959568
>no Man Without Qualities
>no The Good Soldier Svejk
>no The Sleepwalkers
>no Ferdydurke
>no Berlin Alexanderplatz
This list is so American it hurts

>>16959584
As I said, it gets more interesting the farther down you go, with some unexpected books popping up. But still working through those.

I don't think I've ever seen Stein so high either, for that matter. Let's see how this plays out for the first week, and then we can either continue it or abandon it in favor of a more traditional counting method. One thing that is somewhat fun is that two or three anons could really boost a book that usually doesn't make it on the list to a relatively high place; or if even just one anon really loves a book and gives it all his votes, it may well make the list at a lower area as opposed to being left off entirely. Which may be a good or bad thing depending on your perspective.

>>16945546
based

>>16959599
>German
>American
>English (assuming KJV)
>Russian
>Russian
>Spanish
>Irish
>American
>Greek
>American
>French
>Russian-American

Given that a big plurality of anons on here is from America, I'm actually surprised it's not more American.

>>16959568
Please take out the obvious /pol/ troll picks. They don't represent us.

>>16959618
Well, what do you think the main purpose of these lists is? Is it to validate and show off /lit/'s taste and erudition? I know that some people feel so (even if they think so unconsciously). Or is it to find a list of interesting books that has several you haven't heard of before, and that might inspire you to pick one of them up?

If the former, you obviously wouldn't want certain books anywhere on the list (let alone at the top). If it's the latter, though... why would you care?

>>16959618
/pol/ troll picks represent that /lit/ is sometimes trolled by /pol/ which is an accurate representation of the board's culture

>>16959642
>Or is it to find a list of interesting books that has several you haven't heard of before, and that might inspire you to pick one of them up?
Mein Kampf if gross and boring and is a meme that everyone has heard of. Take it out.

>>16959704
As I said earlier, there are several reasons why I'm leaving it on here, some of which I have explained and some of which I won't explain until after submissions have closed.

For now, keep in mind that it is only one book. You always have the option of ignoring it and moving on to the rest of the list.

>>16959602
Yeah I didn’t mean to sound negative. I think your method sounds good and it clearly hasn’t ”ruined” the list, at least not the top 10, as some other anons are worried it will.

>>16958814
Let me see if I can get the spreadsheet linked; I'm sure it's some permissions issue.

Keep in mind though that there is a considerable amount of correction and validation necessary, as there are variations in titles, the spelling of author's names, and anons' likelihood to put their responses in a format that wasn't requested.

>>16959568
great.
same shit as every year plus mein kampf which is trash, I'd rather have Siege there

for books with unknown name of author (Gawain poet) or multiple (Bible), am I right to just write the title of the book?

>>16959718
Your reasons were that you want to represent /lit/. Mein Kampf is a /pol/ troll pick it doesn't represent us.
Then you said you want books that people no one has heard of get in the chart and to inspire people to read them.
Everyone has heard of Mein Kampf and it is a disgusting and terribly written book. Take it out and let a book no one has heard of get in the chart.

I am convinced you are from /pol/.

>>16959779
Yes, though I will also go through the results to combine variations to one book, so don't worry too much about it.

>>16945546
based anon, never change

>>16959793
thank you for your effort

It’s too late for it now obviously but maybe you could do traditional voting and then release a chart of the bottom books. Just to get to see some new stuff, I mean. /lit/ least favourite favourite books or something.

>>16959787
>it is a disgusting and terribly written book
It's neither of these things

when you make the chart can you list the votes the books received, I'd be interested in seeing how the spread looks.

>>16948834
im thinking based

>>16959568
>Mein Kampf - 524 points
uncontrollably based

>>16959568
The solution is just to make two image files at the end of it.
One non edited with all the troll picks in it, and one non-meme version.

>>16961543
This.
>>16945227
You should make two lists. One including memebooks (e.g. mein kampf, my diary desu) and one without them. This way everyone gets what they want.

>>16961543
How do you decide which are the meme picks? Is das kapital fine?

>>16961543
>>16961611
Not him but how many "memebooks" are you guys expecting? why not just include like a little side part to the picture showing what the next two on the list would be

>>16946153
>>16946170
>>16946252
>waaaah waaaah why can't we have a chart that only lists books that I like
Faggots

>>16946687
Based

filter out all meme books or no one will give a shit about the whole thing

>>16961635
>make a big fuss about how books you don't like shouldn't be included
>proceed to state your intent to sabatoge the poll
>in retaliation the poll gets spammed with mein kampf
>somehow this is the fault of everyone but you
You have nobody to blame but yourself for instigating the conflict in the first place. Mein kampf didn't even have a vote before the bitching started and look at what it got you

>>16956031
"Yes."

>>16961622
It's hard to know when we can't see the results, but there are probably gonna be more memebooks than in the past lists due to the scoring system.
Just looking at mein kampf's points shows how much easier it is to push a book into the list, and there's also an autist on this thread saying that he's gonna fill it with books like White Fragility

>>16961802
Mein kampf is getting pushed specifically because of the autist. It's a reactionary response, made to spite him. If it wasn't for him it wouldn't even break top 50

just let it ride who cares

>>16961802
Well >>16961720
>>16961819
They're right, Mein Kampf wasn't on any previous list before and /pol/ has been around since, so why is it suddenly being pushed, cause one guy sperged out at it

>>16946736
Nigger

>>16961851
It was on the 2019 list. Troll picks used to be filtered before 2019.

>>16961877
not Lolita, IJ, etc.

>>16961827
NOOOOOOOOO I HAVE TO HAVE THE BOOKS I LIKE ON MY VERY SERIOUS CHART ABOUT THE EROTIC FICTION PREFRENCES OF A NIGERIAN ANT PISSING BOARD YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE VERY THOUGHT OF ALLOWING NON-SERIOUS BOOKS IS AN AFFRONT TO OUR VERY CULTURE I MEAN IMAGINE IF SOMEONE VOTED HARRY POTTER????

>>16961885
Those aren't troll picks. Hitler, Evola, Harry Potter, the unabomber guy are.

>>16961894
yeah but the real question is who the fuck cares

>>16961894
What makes them troll picks? The fact you don't agree with them? I can tell you that a good amount of /lit/ thinks moby dick is shit, would they be right to remove it from the list? What makes your opinion trump theirs? Why should we care?

>>16961930
They aren't literary and people vote for them for shits and giggles.

>>16961851
It has been on previous lists, but as far as I know it has never gotten enough votes to reach the top 50. Now it's number one with an overwhelming lead, and it's because you can give 10 points to a single book.
See >>16959568
After 294 submissions, a book needs 20 points to get top 10. It's super easy to push a book into the list now, which why autists like >>16946248 can actually make significant changes to the list

>>16961894
Says who? Harry potter made it earnestly into the 2011 chart

>>16961966
>They aren't literary
What do you mean?

>tfw number 1 spot this year is going to be mein kampf

>>16961966
Again, why does your opinion trump theirs? What metric are you using to grade how literary literature is? What makes mein kampf less literary than the other non-fiction like montaigne's essays? Why should the bible be allowed but not the unabomber? You make no sense

>>16962006
>tfw no face

Gute Arbeit, / lit /! Ich bin sehr stolz auf euch Jungs!

>>16962006
>tfw you realize that hitlerfag masquaraded as an anti-/pol/ sperg to commandeer our contrarian impulses in order to get mein kampf on top

REMINDER TO VOTE FOR IL DESERTO DEI TARTARI BY BUZZATI
VOTE FOR BUZZATI OR YOUR CAT DIES TOMORROW

REMINDER to vote for the Bhagavad Gita

>>16946963
>sign in to jewgle to continue
Here's my noms, OP. not making a google account for this.
Blind Owl - Sadegh Hedayat
Demons - Dostoevsky
Sailor who Fell from Grace - Mishima
No Longer Human - Dazai
Catcher in the Rye - Salinger
Gatsby - Fitzgerald
Dorian Grey - Wilde
Kokoro - Soseki
Anabasis - Xenophon
Hamlet - Shakespeare

>>16961966
And people don’t vote for IJ for shits and giggles?

>>16945812
This is making my eyes bleed how the fuck does anyone like this shit

Literally nobody here has actually read Mein Kampf front to back. That's about the only pick I think should be disqualified, though it will trigger the crypto-trannies.

t. read about a quarter of it, snorted at the pompousness, posted some excerpts on 4chin and then gave up because I have better things to do with my life than unironically reading trash like that

Mein Kampf looks based tbqh

>>16962441
This. I don't understand why people do that kind of thing. I am convinced computers and digital printing have ruined graphic design for good.

t. not graphic designer

>>16962455
>Literally nobody here has actually read Mein Kampf front to back
I really don’t find it hard to believe that many have.

>>16961543
this

>>16962535
I like this

>>16962535
Thanks anon, I like this quite a lot. Will use it on the next thread.

>>16959568
>>16958696
>>16961970
I think OP meant well when they created the voting system, but it seems now that it's consequences are not quite what is expected. Even aside from Mein Kampf being first place, which is quite a hard pill to swallow for many, the list will likely have a lineup which differs from years past in a few ways. If the list is made based on the current votes, here's how I think it will look:

Mein Kampf first, /lit/'s golden picks from years past in the top spots after that, (Brothers K, Moby Dick...), and from there on out the list will look like years past, except the further down the list you go, there are more books which haven't gotten into a list ever, and some books which /lit/ rarely ever even talks about. The last 10-15 books on the list will likely be chaos. Maybe about 60-75 books will be /lit/ canon, (Catch-22, 2666, The Sound and the Fury) things which show up extremely consistently on /lit/'s 100.

The list will probably be noticably different, but not in the ways you might think. This is just my guess, in any case.

>>16963131
I suspect that you are right.

>>16963131
People are spamming their favorite book, which has never once been mentioned on lit except the one time that anon made a failed thread about it. This could very well turn out to be worst top 100 we've had yet, and it's OPs fault for suggesting mein kampf to everyone in the first place. Wish someone competent and a non tourist would have taken charge. At the very least someone who has actually browsed lit for a while

>>16959568
Mein Kampf is fine. It just shows /lit/ is regularly raided by /pol/ like every other board. The problem that /lit/ should worry about is the incredibly stale and boring actual /lit/ choices. The fact that you retards are only offended by Mein Kampf shows how bad this board actually is. It's like leftists who only hate Trump but don't realise they're cretins themselves cause they can blame someoe else instead. Pathetic.

>Mein Kampf - 524 points
>Moby Dick - 116 points
Did Mein Kampf get filtered in the past years or has /pol/ really taken over that badly?

>>16963223
Read the thread retard. It's a spite vote

>>16963223
It's the new voting system with 10 points. 10 votes per person is pretty ridiculous. Should've been 10 votes, max 3 per book at the very least if not 1 per book

>>16963221
>is the incredibly stale and boring actual /lit/ choices
The list is not for tourists like you. Having IJ in the top 10 is a matter of board culture, and having Mein Kampf in the top 10 is a matter of foreign invasion. Has nothing to do with hating Trump, on the contrary you should understand why we must build a wall.

>>16963198
The poll is about /lit/'s favorite books
Why should it be constantly changing if, aside from newfags, the denizens of /lit/ aren't changing? You just want a recommendation list

>>16963234
Oh, that's how it works? I thought it's one vote per person per book

>>16963240
IJ hasn't been in the top ten for years, please get over yourself, /lit/ isn't your wankshed
It also makes sense that a dfwfag would be this spergy

>>16963243
The list should rarely change, and if I can't find a thread about one of the top 100 books on waruso then it doesn't deserve to be in the top 100

>>16963221
No. You /pol/tards are the problem. Always have been. Rightists belong in camps.

>>16963240
There are more Mein Kampf threads than IJ threads in any week of the year with no "invasion". Get over it faggot.

>>16959568
>The Makings of Americans - 19 points
The what?

>>16963277
>The Making of Americans: Being a History of a Family's Progress is a modernist novel by Gertrude Stein. The novel traces the genealogy, history, and psychological development of members of the fictional Hersland and Dehning families. Stein also includes frequent metafictional meditations on the process of writing the text that periodically overtake the main narrative.

>>16963292
>Stein
Kek

>>16963256
Refer to >>16961720
You started this fight. You have no right to cry about it. Do you think this is some mass invasion coordinated on dozens of discords? No, it's other anons of /lit/ taking the time out of their day to spite you for being a close minded faggot. You have no wish to see what others think, not if they don't take things as seriously as you do or simply don't share your beliefs. What you want is affirmation. I and many others refuse to give it to you

>>16963292
So a hack decided to larp as faulkner for a day, literally stole the entire novel premise from him

>>16963256
Try it pussy

>>16959963
>>>/pol/
Go back.

>>16963351
Seethe manchild

The best part of looking back at the top 10's for Lit is seeing Infinite Jest slowly just drop. First two times, it's Number 1, then next two years, it's Number 3, then 10, and now 11. Will be interesting to see where it ends up now

>>16963363
Fuck my neovagina, faggot!

>>16963309
>It's out of spite!
Not my fault you're a child. You type of people are the garbage of this board.
Last year when the OP said he wouldn't filter the troll picks it was on the chart anyway. The OP this year literally mentioned he would not filter Mein Kampf. It's almost as if he was asking for people to vote for it. I bet he is a /pol/tard.

>>16963366
Gonna make 10 accounts now to spite you

>>16963382
Alright anon, time to wage war against you. Gonna send in a bunch for my book then

Mein Kamp isn’t a meme choice wtf, why is /lit/ so elitist?

>>16963373
He mentioned it because you subhumans did the same shit last year. You literally made your own chart without mein kampf and tried to force it as legit. Leftists are autistic authoritarians and no one should ever give in to their whining. Kill yourself faggot.

>>16959787
Dude you are a moron

>>16959704
No it isn’t can you stop thinking with your vagina for one second? MK was one of the best selling books of all time when it came out.

>>16963399
>You literally made your own chart without mein kampf
The chart has always been filtered. You don't think people troll voted Mein Kampf before? The charts have always been filtered newfag.
>Leftists are autistic authoritarians
Yeah I am authoritarian.

>>16963223
It’s called TRUMP

>>16963397
It's one hyper leftist sperg

>>16963413
Cry more my bitch

>>16963407
>MK was one of the best selling books
Harry Potter is a best selling book. They are both schlock. Mein Kampf even more so for its reprehensible content.

>>16963413
How do you know it’s a troll and people don’t genuinely want MK? Not saying it should be number one but it’s ridiculous it wouldn’t make it onto the chart

>>16963422
>reprehensible content.

>>16962535
much better

>>16963399
>Leftists
You 14 year old niggers need to stop blaming everything you don't like on "leftists". I would bet anything that I'm more "right wing" than you, that doesn't prevent me from realising le epic Mein Kampf doesn't belong on a top 100 literature list, um ganz ehrlich zu sein.

>>16963441
You are a retarded faggot

>>16963448
no you

>>16963422
MK isn’t schlock though just because you don’t like it. If it’s reprehensible then so is lolita

>>16962535
Based

>>16963467
It actually is schlock though. Reprehensibility has nothing to do with it.

>>16963427
>How do you know it’s a troll and people don’t genuinely want MK?
Not him, but it being number one with that much of a gap sure is fishy
That being said I'm glad it's gonna end up on top because that faggots is fucking insufferable. Wish I read the thread before voting so I would have reserved a spot for it
Then again, I can always use other accounts

>>16963435
>Trump 2020
Anon I...

>>16963491
>They are both schlock. Mein Kampf even more so for its reprehensible content.

Are you retarded? Make up your mind dumbass.

>>16963507
>there is only one person on /lit/ who doesn't think MK is a masterpiece

>>16963503
Spiritually

>>16963495
Somewhere around 350 votes for it came in while the list was being 'advertised' on /pol/.

>>16963521
So it'd still be #1 without /pol/

>>16963514
It deserves to at least be counted, I don’t think it’s #1 material but it certainly is too 100 material. More so than Das Kapital

This thread made me wanna vote for MK too thanks for the inspiring discussion

>>16963535
No it isn't. Mein Kampf is filth. Capital is one of the greatest works of criticism. Stop trolling.

>>16963636

>>16963636
I’m not trolling, can you actually speak like an adult and not some crybaby? MK is much more than “I hate joos” the book. The Bible is more radical than MK

>>16963636
Cope more. I just gave all 10 of my votes to Mein Kampf because you lefties are being massive faggots in this thread

>>16964033
Well I gave all 10 of my votes to Moby-Dick so fuck you

New thread - >>16964565

>>16964569
Cancel that; forgot the title. Actual new thread here - >>16964706