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So reality is indistinguishable from the capitalism-created simulation and everything we do now is just a LARP in a society that has lost meaning and we can never know what is truly real and what isn't, making all politics, art and relationships just a LARP that won't actually solve anything? Did I understand correctly? What am I supposed to do with this knowledge?

>> No.16951508

>>16951490
Everything is sign without signifier

>> No.16951513

>>16951490
Give up social media
Thats it

>> No.16951519

>>16951490

He was in a sense correct, but too severe in his condemnation of all as simulation

>> No.16951520
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16951520

This is the birth of cope.

>> No.16951524

>>16951490
Start a family nerd

>> No.16951532

>>16951490
>What am I supposed to do with this knowledge?
'pataphysics, Baudrillard would have been a jannyposter

>> No.16951534

>>16951490
>indistinguishable
He wouldn’t’ve been able to write an entire book if it were.

>> No.16951854

No, there is no capitalism in the first place. it's a bogus narrative.


Capitalism is inherently atheist, humanistic, since it is what the judeo christian bourgeois created in the Parliament of their republics. They put the monarchists on the right and the secular humanists on the left

you see thus that being right wing in a the republic just means monarchist, but now that the humanists killed any political power of the theists, the right is still socialist but dubbed ''right'' and the left is still socialism but dubbed ''left''

There is no difference between left and right in a humanistic republic.The only which changes is the symbols tied to each group.
The underlying basis does not change.
The underlying basis of the republic is the constitution about the Human rights. These rights are the jewel of the judeo Christians.

Now the subtle point is that leftists and rightists are okay with that. All what matters for the judeo christian bourgeois is that theists do not take power again. And this happens exactly by giving the illusion to the midwits like you that left and right are separate doctrinally.
So the plebs can vote one time for the left, then they see that the bourgeois ruling class does XYZ, then the plebs whine that the ruling class is not doing what they promised during the campaign, then the next election the plebs swing to the rightists, which is exactly the same people.

Thus there is no ''capitalism'' or anticapitalism.
What there is the Humanist Republic, the dogma of their Human Rights .
This is what capitalism is in its entirety.

Second capitalism cannot be destroyed without destroying the republic and its dogmas. This is what liberals hate to hear.

Third capitalism cannot be destroyed because by the dogma of the Human Rights, any doctrine is turned into a bulk of opinions, which are always shat on if the humanists see it as anti Human rights.
The doctrines which are the most appealing to those people are commodified and capitalism remains unaltered.


This is why btw all the motto and slogans in the humanist elections are always about ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''change'''''''''''''''''''''''''''
the only thing that does not change is exactly the fake symbols made up by the bourgeois about their political dichotomy.

The most important thing for the bourgeois is that the plebs really believe that the rulling class will stop the bourgeoisie after any election.


This is part of the fantasy of the humanist of the '''''''''''''''''perpetual revolution''''''''''''. T'hose people live on their laurels of doing revolution over and over, fighting the cops int he streets as part of the humanistic ritualistic baptism, because killing theist Christians is the only thing they did in their entire history and they only live for this.
but now that theists are destroyed, they have nothing left to do and get bored, so they try to find new topics to ''''''''''''revolutionize'''''''''''''' and just say cops are evil.

>> No.16952076

>>16951490
Realize the truth of it and dance in the rubble.
You’re in 4chan, so you’re already doin’ it.

>> No.16952320

>>16951490
>French
No thanks

>> No.16952345

>>16951490
symbolic exchange, did you even read him?

>> No.16952350

>>16951490
>we can never know what is truly real and what isn't
Go into the wilds and see how long you last
The real is there, and the superlayer of the "culturally real" has always been there.
Stupid people used to scream about God 24/7, now they watch porn and fight about who is the rightful president (mostly) without hurting people who have actual things to do.

>> No.16952360

>>16951854
Take your meds

>> No.16952373

>>16952350
>Go into the wilds and see how long you last
>The real is there
Literally part of Baudrillard's argument.
No idea what you mean by 'culturally real'.
>Stupid people used to scream about God 24/7, now they watch porn and fight about who is the rightful president (mostly) without hurting people who have actual things to do.
Meaningless babble, shut up.

>> No.16952382

>>16951490
>Did I understand correctly?
yes
>What am I supposed to do with this knowledge?
clean room

>> No.16952386

Everyone wants fucking "genuine experiences" and "reality." Leftism started with that stuff hard in the 60s, now the nazis want it to. Everyone wants to "go back" to fuck knows what.

>> No.16952433

Authenticity is just some voodoo metaphysics with a Marxist bent. There's nothing philosophically wrong with being inauthentic. Your head's not going to explode from all the contradictions in the world.

>> No.16952438

>>16952433
>just ignores escalating rates of depression, impotency, drug addiction etc

>> No.16952465

>>16952433
Were people actually authentic back in the day? I always felt that people just faked personalities according to their enviroment or against their enviroment ("I'm not like the other girls") but it was always fundamentally non-authentic, since for something to be truly authentic it would have to be removed from societal influence and all other people as a whole (pretty much impossible, as no one would be able to percieve it). Or is this just because I was born in modern society and it actually didn't use to be like this?

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>>16952438
this hit home
>>16951532
based
>>16951524
this

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>>16951532
here's the chart, daumal and jarry are quite based