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Just finished this, not as difficult as it seems except for the last chapter which is very heavy on Hegel. Would recommend it, has some interesting ideas even if I didn’t agree with most of them.

>> No.16917692

>>16916188
share ONE of the interesting ideas. I dare you

>> No.16917714

>>16917692
That ideology works not in the level of ideas and thoughts, but in our actions, which are structured by fundamental phantasies that sustain our being. In this way, even knowing the truth about ideology people still follow it. I'm not the OP, but the whole idea of ideology being a fundamental structure of our reality instead of "bad and evil ideas" is interesting at least to me. Also, the idea that hysterical subjects are those who can refuse ideological interpellations.

>> No.16917735

>>16916188
Difficult is the Lacan stuff, not because it's so complex, but because Lacan is a bullshit merchant and you have to patiently wait for him to transfer everything into a redundant diagram and attach a Lacanian label to.

>>16917692

It's a handy variation of the old truism about modern political utopias working like faith. In that it shows how that shit can also work just as well without a pre-existing faith framework to copy (e.g. North Korea).

Maybe the best reason to read it is as a look at what came out of the decadent/collapsing Soviet Bloc period - it's Marxism in a hyper cynical self destructive mode and it's just interesting to see what sort of dissidents a self-decalred revolutionary political system produces.

>> No.16918272

>>16917714
Wow such an original idea. No one ever thought or wrote about that before

>> No.16918287

>>16918272
god you're a fucking dumbass

>> No.16918302

>>16917714
So he used the definition of culture for ideology and wrote 100000 words on the common sense functioning of culture, while quoting Hegel?

>> No.16918304

>>16918287
Not an argument

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>>16918304
>Not an argument

>> No.16918338

>>16918331
Also not an argument

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>>16918338
>Also not an argument

>> No.16918349

>>16918344
Stay wrong wojak poster

>> No.16918350

>>16918287
>>16918331
>>16918344
embarrassing retard who belongs on /tv/

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>>16918349
>>16918350
>Stay wrong wojak poster
>embarrassing retard who belongs on /tv/

>> No.16918372

>>16918370
These are the people who read Zizek

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>>16918372
>These are the people who read Zizek
I haven't even read the book

>> No.16918440

>>16918432
These are the people who don't read

>> No.16918510

>>16917714
ok so it's garbage
intellectuals are a mistake

>> No.16918668

>>16916188
Why do people hate Zizek without reading him?

>> No.16918689

>>16918668
This is /lit/, what do you expect?

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>>16918349
>>16918350
>Stay wrong wojak poster
>embarrassing retard who belongs on /tv/
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Anonymous 12/01/20(Tue)11:18:27 No.16918372▶>>16918432
>>16918370
These are the people who read Zizek
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Anonymous 12/01/20(Tue)11:30:33 No.16918432▶>>16918440
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>>16918372
>These are the people who read Zizek
I haven't even read the book
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Anonymous 12/01/20(Tue)11:32:15 No.16918440▶
>>16918432
These are the people who don't read
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Anonymous 12/01/20(Tue)11:44:58 No.16918510▶
>>16917714
ok so it's garbage
intellectuals are a mistake
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Anonymous 12/01/20(Tue)12:12:31 No.16918668▶
>>16916188 (OP)
Why do people hate Zizek without reading him?

>> No.16918732

>>16918689
True. Do people read here at all? Personally if the right kind of idiot hates a philosopher it just compels me to read them. This thought can be applied outward exponentially. I want to be the opposite of a 4chan shitposter that never reads, always comments, and gets his worldview from one-sided memes. I imagine many feel this way. How do we defeat Tribalism has Zizek written about that or any other philosophers hated by the all too common lit vacationer? Maybe a female? Maybe even a black female. Has Angela Davis written about tribalism and or the neckbeard lifestyle?

>> No.16919248

>>16918302
no, the part hes describing is only mentioned in the first chapter, many more ideas are developed in the book